Trent Green is the man...

[dtebbe]

Damn, the guy just keep quietly performing:
1. T. Brady NE 3630
2. P. Manning IND 3290
3. T. Green KC 3287
4. C. Palmer CIN 3242
5. B. Favre GB 3161

You hear all about the other guys every day, but never a peep for Green.

DT

[Hammock Parties]

The only way he gets on NFL Network is if his freaking dad dies. It's quite pathetic.

[MichaelH]

500 bucks says he doesn't make the pro bowl either. STFU

[Hammock Parties]

500 bucks says he doesn't make the pro bowl either. STFU

He doesn't have the TD passes for it this year.

[Warrior5]

Hope he doesn't have to change any dirty diapers next week.

[Braincase]

And I thought Jake was going to be the League MVP...

[NewChief]

Damn, the guy just keep quietly performing:
1. T. Brady NE 3630
2. P. Manning IND 3290
3. T. Green KC 3287
4. C. Palmer CIN 3242
5. B. Favre GB 3161

You hear all about the other guys every day, but never a peep for Green.

DT

It's funny, because people on the Cowboys boards prior to us playing them were going on about how Trent was way over rated. How he's hyped as the next coming of Joe Montana, etc. etc. I wasn't sure what Planet their sports news shows get piped in from, but I'd like a satellite dish to pick those up.

[Hammock Parties]

I was honestly surprised to see him light up Dallas.

I've seen almost every single one of their games, and NO ONE does that to Dallas.

[Goapics1]

Updated Passer Ratings:


Rank Player Team Yds Att Cmp TDs Ints Long Rating
1 Peyton Manning IND 3290 394 269 27 8 80 108.2
2 Carson Palmer CIN 3242 426 287 27 8 70 103.2
3 Ben Roethlisberger PIT 1875 217 138 16 7 85 102.2
4 Marc Bulger STL 2297 287 192 14 9 57 94.4
5 Drew Brees SD 3092 420 275 22 12 43 92.9
6 Matt Hasselbeck SEA 2930 393 250 19 9 52 92.7
7 Tom Brady NE 3630 462 293 20 12 71 91.3
8 Jake Plummer DEN 2748 376 230 16 6 72 91.0
9 Brad Johnson MIN 1247 188 116 8 2 80 90.9
10 Trent Green KC 3287 415 260 14 9 60 89.5

[NewChief]

Here was the thread from a Dallas board:
http://mb25.scout.com/fcowboyupdatefrm10.showMessage?topicID=92022.topic

[Brock]

I read here on chiefsplanet that he has a rag arm. So it's no wonder he gets no attention.

[dtebbe]

It's funny, because people on the Cowboys boards prior to us playing them were going on about how Trent was way over rated. How he's hyped as the next coming of Joe Montana, etc. etc. I wasn't sure what Planet their sports news shows get piped in from, but I'd like a satellite dish to pick those up.

Me too! REP! ROFL

DT

[Spicy McHaggis]

Trent Green rarely gets the respect he deserves. But in all fairness its hard for all those media heads to say anything with their mouth so full of Peyton's cock.

[Donger]

Trent Green rarely gets the respect he deserves. But in all fairness its hard for all those media heads to say anything with their mouth so full of Peyton's cock.

Speaking of him, I noticed that he hops around like that cat that was electrocuted in that movie Cat's Eye.

[Deberg_1990]

In all honesty, Until Trent wins a playoff game, he will never get the full respect and media attention he deserves.

[philfree]

Last week was the first time I've ever seen Trent get pissed at one of his teammates. When Wilson wasn't looking for the ball Trent was up his ass. Also in that game on the last two passes he through he was money. The one to Dante was a laser......I was wondering waht happened there.....In a last minute drive Trent didn't get sacked....
All this brings me to one thing........Gawd Dammit Lawrence :cuss:


PhilFree:arrow:

[Chiefs Pantalones]

In all honesty, Until Trent wins a playoff game, he will never get the full respect and media attention he deserves.

Until Trent gets a defense and wins a playoff game, he won't get the respect he deserves. He's a dang good QB, but he won't be that recognized until he gets a full team around him, which might be too late.

[Chiefs Pantalones]

Last week was the first time I've ever seen Trent get pissed at one of his teammates. When Wilson wasn't looking for the ball Trent was up his ass. Also in that game on the last two passes he through he was money. The one to Dante was a laser......I was wondering waht happened there.....In a last minute drive Trent didn't get sacked....
All this brings me to one thing........Gawd Dammit Lawrenced :cuss:


PhilFree:arrow:

It should've never came down to that last second drive.

[Deberg_1990]

Until Trent gets a defense and wins a playoff game, he won't get the respect he deserves. He's a dang good QB, but he won't be that recognized until he gets a full team around him, which might be too late.

Trent Green is the modern era Dan Fouts.

[Chiefs Pantalones]

Trent Green is the modern era Dan Fouts.

To heck with Al Saunders for saying that when we traded for him! Al cursed Trent and the team!!!

[milkman]

Last week was the first time I've ever seen Trent get pissed at one of his teammates. When Wilson wasn't looking for the ball Trent was up his ass. Also in that game on the last two passes he through he was money. The one to Dante was a laser......I was wondering waht happened there.....In a last minute drive Trent didn't get sacked....
All this brings me to one thing........Gawd Dammit Lawrenced :cuss:


PhilFree:arrow:

Well we've visited this before, but dammit, that wasn't Tynes' fault.

[CoMoChief]

500 bucks says he doesn't make the pro bowl either. STFU


As well as he shouldnt. He hasnt played as well from a TD standpoint, and thats exactly what people look at when deciding a Pro Bowl QB. Im not saying that I'm for it, but based on what Pro Bowl QBs are based on, nothing matters more than the TD/INT ratio.

Unless your name is Marc Bulger and you get in with 22TD and 22 INT instead of Matt Hasselbeck who had 27TD and 17INT in 2003 I believe.

[philfree]

It should've never came down to that last second drive.

That wasn't the point cause games seldom go as they "should".

Well we've visited this before, but dammit, that wasn't Tynes' fault.

Yeah, well, he's not not completely void of blame but, yeah. O.K. then....Just Dammit All!

PhilFree:arrow:

[sedated]

Here was the thread from a Dallas board:
http://mb25.scout.com/fcowboyupdatefrm10.showMessage?topicID=92022.topic

It's funny how wrong (and arrogant) everyone was...but pathetic becasue they still won

[NewChief]

It's funny how wrong (and arrogant) everyone was...but pathetic becasue they still won

I know it. I would have liked to go over and get their opinions post game and rekindle the thread, but I just couldn't find the desire after the loss.

[dtebbe]

All this brings me to one thing........Gawd Dammit Lawrence :cuss:


PhilFree:arrow:

Now, now... Tynes is the next Stenerud, haven't you heard?

Shamey Shamey

DT

[joesomebody]

This is off topic, but looking at the pro bowl ballot, where you can sort through the potential candidates,
for some reason percentage is compeltely left off for kickers...

So the next stat that I would go by is points, and Tynes is number 2. Didn't realize that, though it makes since with a high scoring offense that you are going to score a lot of points as a kicker.

[joesomebody]

I hate starting threads, so heres another interesting stat:

WR Dante Hall has 1,960 combined net yards in 2005 and needs 40 more to join RB Marshall Faulk (’98-01) as the only other player in NFL history to top the 2,000-yard barrier in four consecutive seasons.

http://www.kcchiefs.com/news/2005/12/13/chiefs_on_pace_for_kcs_best_run_defense_since_97/

[Brock]

Now, now... Tynes is the next Stenerud, haven't you heard?

Shamey Shamey

DT

No, no.....he's Lin Elliot. :rolleyes:

[Warrior5]

In all honesty, Until Trent wins a playoff game, he will never get the full respect and media attention he deserves.

Oh crap...I'd forgotten about this one...

Trent Green has never won a playoff game.


Hoping that'll change real soon.

[tk13]

Trent has a 89.5 QB rating... I believe. We need him to finish above 90. I hope he does. If he can finish with a 90.0 QB rating or higher, he'd become the third QB in the history of the NFL to have a 90+ rating for 4 consecutive seasons.

[philfree]

Trent has a 89.5 QB rating... I believe. We need him to finish above 90. I hope he does. If he can finish with a 90.0 QB rating or higher, he'd become the third QB in the history of the NFL to have a 90+ rating for 4 consecutive seasons.

Correct! Rare air no doubt. He's also gonna bust 4,000 yards again which is how many years in a row? Three? Or is it four?

PhilFree:arrow:

[Hammock Parties]

Correct! Rare air no doubt. He's also gonna bust 4,000 yards again which is how many years in a row? Three? Or is it four?

PhilFree:arrow:

I don't think he will. He'll fall just short.

[Hammock Parties]

Trent has a 89.5 QB rating... I believe. We need him to finish above 90. I hope he does. If he can finish with a 90.0 QB rating or higher, he'd become the third QB in the history of the NFL to have a 90+ rating for 4 consecutive seasons.

Heh..I've been monitoring the QB rating contest between Trent and Jake for awhile now. Trent has been slowly moving up week by week.

[ferrarispider95]

I don't think he will. He'll fall just short.

Actually I think he has a better chance now with the online intact. He has played 4 good games, except for the 2 int in denver, but other than that he has been sitting back and picking apart defenses when he has time.

[Hammock Parties]

Actually I think he has a better chance now with the online intact. He has played 4 good games, except for the 2 int in denver, but other than that he has been sitting back and picking apart defenses when he has time.

He'd need 713 yards in 3 games, or roughly 240 yards a game. I guess he might do it, but it's going to be awfully cold in KC. The matchups are favorable.

[tk13]

He's facing the 26th, 27th, and 22nd ranked pass defenses the next three weeks. We'll see.

[philfree]

I don't think he will. He'll fall just short.

I'm going on his production of late. He's Thrown for over 900 yards the last three games and looking at the pass Ds he's going to face I believe he'll make it. I hope he does.

PhilFree:arrow:

[chiefsfan1963]

definitely worth a 1st round draft!!!!!!!!!!! :clap:

Not many happy campers here when we gave away a 1st rounder for Trent 5 years ago!!!!!!!

Ah how things change!!!!!!!!! :p

[conchshell]

As well as he shouldnt. He hasnt played as well from a TD standpoint, and thats exactly what people look at when deciding a Pro Bowl QB. Im not saying that I'm for it, but based on what Pro Bowl QBs are based on, nothing matters more than the TD/INT ratio.

Unless your name is Marc Bulger and you get in with 22TD and 22 INT instead of Matt Hasselbeck who had 27TD and 17INT in 2003 I believe.

If I remember correctly, Marc Bulger was a reserve and only played because Matt Hassellback who was ahead of him, has chose not to. Bulger is skilled, he won the pro-bowl for the NFC that year, you can't take it out of him

[Boyceofsummer]

Green facing first and goal at the Dallas 10, audibles out of the play from the sideline. Selects LJ up Dallas's ass for 2 or 3 running plays. We get at least 3, run clock and take a 17 or 21 to 3 lead to halftime. Nope.........Green follows the party line and gets drilled. It wasn't too long ago that green through a pick-6 (at Arrowhead) from a goal line situation and changed the course of that game too. Like Nancy used to say: "Just Say No"

[Eleazar]

I read here on Chiefsplanet that Green never won an important game...

As if that's his fault. When the defense doesn't force a single punt the entire game, damnit, Green should have just been better to make up for it. If we had a better quarterback we would have won. Those losers like Trent Green and Peyton Manning just aren't good enough. We need a QB who can win big games or playoff games like trent dilfer or kerry collins. Green personally tanked his only opportunity proving forever that no team could win a super bowl with him and he is teh suk :rolleyes:

[Hammock Parties]

Remember all those passes Trent Green dropped in that playoff game...or that fumble...or the FG he missed.

[FringeNC]

Green facing first and goal at the Dallas 10, audibles out of the play from the sideline. Selects LJ up Dallas's ass for 2 or 3 running plays. We get at least 3, run clock and take a 17 or 21 to 3 lead to halftime. Nope.........Green follows the party line and gets drilled. It wasn't too long ago that green through a pick-6 (at Arrowhead) from a goal line situation and changed the course of that game too. Like Nancy used to say: "Just Say No"

One of the stupidest posts I have ever read on here...

[Ralphy Boy]

definitely worth a 1st round draft!!!!!!!!!!! :clap:

Not many happy campers here when we gave away a 1st rounder for Trent 5 years ago!!!!!!!

Ah how things change!!!!!!!!! :p

I was happy then and happier today, it was, until LJ this season, the best 1st rounder we've spent in a long time.

Green won't have strong passing TD numbers and hasn't in years past because we run the ball in the redzone better than just about any team, save for maybe Seattle. Our line, combined with the threat of Gonzo in the endzone makes it easier for us than just about any team and given that its smarter to run it there, we do and I wouldn't have it any other way.

[Ralphy Boy]

Some of his problems are that his level of play has been largely below that of any good QB he's facing, he starts slow every year and every time the media does start to pimp him, he has a bad game. A large part of the opposing QB issue is our horrible pass D, but either way he's expected to out-play his rival QB and he hasn't done a lot of that.
Last week he had a good game, but Bledsoe had 3 TD's and Green had 1. In total opposing QB's have 3,280 yards, 21 TD's, 12 INT's
Green 3,287 yards, 14 TD's & 9 INT's.
That doesn't count Tomlinson's TD pass.

2005 as a whole so far:
Week 1 Pennington had 264 yards 0 TD's 1 INT, Green 200 and 1 INT.
Week 2 Collins had 263 yards & 1 TD, Green had 237 & 0 TD.
Week 3 Plummer had 152 yards & 1 TD, Green had 221 & 1 TD.
Week 4 McNabb had 369, 3 TD's & 1 INT, Green had 221, 2 TD's & 1 INT.
Week 6 Brunell had 331, 3 TD's, Green had 181 & 1 TD.
Week 7 Frerotte/Rosenfels had 202, 1 TD & 1 INT, Green 289 & no TD.
Week 8 Brees had 324 3 TD's & 1 INT, Green 347 & 2 TD's
Week 9 Collins had 175, 2 TD's & 1 INT, Green 235 & 1 TD
Week 10 Losman/Holcomb had 162 & 2 TD's, Green 220 & 3 INT's
Week 11 Carr 182 & 1 INT, Green 220, 3 TD's 1 INT
Week 12 Brady 248 1 TD, 4 INT, Green 323 & 1 TD
Week 13 Plummer 276 1 TD, 2 INT, Green 253 2 TD, 2 INT
Week 14 Bledsoe 332 & 3 TD's, Green 340 & 1 TD

[Hammock Parties]

Troy Aikman didn't throw alot of TD passes, either.

[Ralphy Boy]

Troy Aikman didn't throw alot of TD passes, either.

On "America's Team" you don't need to.

[the Talking Can]

Trent getting us 50 yards in 14 secs is sufficient to explain his skill level.

[Deberg_1990]

Troy Aikman didn't throw alot of TD passes, either.

That was because they had the same situation that we have had the past few years. They had DOMINATING red zone running back, who could score TD's in bunches inside the 20. Any time you have that, it will take some scores away from your QB.

[tommykat]

Trent getting us 50 yards in 14 secs is sufficient to explain his skill level.

:thumb:

[Over-Head]

It's nice to see Trent being the QB he's talanted enough to be.

Heck I can remember once upon a time most of the people in here would like to have seen him on nut hooks.

[philfree]

It's nice to see Trent being the QB he's talanted enough to be.

Heck I can remember once upon a time most of the people in here would like to have seen him on nut hooks.


He ain't the only player that's been treated that way around here. The most recent is Welbourn who tried to play injured last year and finished on IR. Until a couple of weeks ago he was considered a bust by most. Now he's playing better at RT then anyone we've tried since Tait was on the team. If a player don't give immediate gratification the lynch mob here would cut them in a heart beat.

PhilFree:arrow: