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Wile_E_Coyote
12-18-2005, 04:35 PM
what was the biggest mistake of DV's time as Chiefs' Head Coach*

*this thread could have a short run

KCFalcon59
12-18-2005, 04:36 PM
Accepting the head coaching job from Carl.

Eleazar
12-18-2005, 04:38 PM
:Robinson:

NJ Chief Fan
12-18-2005, 04:39 PM
having a amazing defense...when are people gonna learn that you dont need a defense

B2chiefsfan
12-18-2005, 04:40 PM
Showing up.......?:shrug:

kcfanXIII
12-18-2005, 04:41 PM
failing to address personel needs. we've had 4 years to fix this defense. and obtain a threat at wr. to loyal to players who don't deserve to be starters, ie eric hicks, dexter mcleon, wesly and woods.

Deberg_1990
12-18-2005, 04:43 PM
Not firing Greg Robinson, Greg Wesley, Warfield, Bartee, Hicks, Etc...after the 2002 season.

Wile_E_Coyote
12-18-2005, 04:45 PM
this is where I should get a second login & say:

"It is not over yet"

Chan93lx50
12-18-2005, 04:46 PM
Having no balls!

jspchief
12-18-2005, 05:04 PM
His biggest mistake? Loyalty. He sticks with people too long, whether it be coaches or players.

KCChiefsFan88
12-18-2005, 05:07 PM
I'd say it would be the offseason following the 13-3 season and loss to Indy in the playoffs. That offseason the Chiefs hired the wrong guy to be DC and they made the wrong decision to bring back guys like Jerome Woods, Eric Hicks, and Greg Wesley.

Imagine the defense with Gregg Williams as DC, and Bert Berry at DE, opposite Jared Allen.

Berry was a free agent that offseason, 2 years ago when Hicks was also a free agent. The Chiefs could have let Hicks walk and signed Berry. In fact Arizona was interested in Hicks I think, instead the Chiefs decide to re-sign Hicks, and Berry ends up in Arizona.

Berry has had double digit sack years the past 2 years I think.

Hoover
12-18-2005, 05:08 PM
Not keeping John Tait

cdcox
12-18-2005, 05:14 PM
Bringing in Robinson, definitely. That set the tone on the defensive side of the ball, which has been an unmitigated disaster during his entire tenure.

Iowanian
12-18-2005, 05:24 PM
over loyalty.

Being too loyal to "nice guys" who can't play football for shit. Being too loyal to Ancient position coaches who have proven they suck again and again.

Thats for starters.

Add to that my list of contenders.
Greg Robinson
No tacklin' drills in camp after a horrible tacklin' and _efensive year.
Giving the team the week off after they've just shit in their nest.

In short.....He's too soft, made his team into a bunch of candy asses.

DTLB58
12-18-2005, 07:07 PM
One thing which has already been mentioned.

Dick said himself early on that he is loyal to a fault.

Grob as D.C.

Letting Donnie Edwards go!

Not enough urgency after the 2003 season to improve.

Mr. Laz
12-18-2005, 07:13 PM
hiring Greg Robinson has his defensive coordinator


Robinson scheme did NOT fit the existing personnel AND didn't fit Vermeil's personnel preferences.


was a match made in hell from the very start

Rain Man
12-18-2005, 07:37 PM
Hiring Robinson. That was an obvious mistake from the moment it happened, especially when there were half a dozen really strong candidates available at the time. That was a truly inexplicable decision.

whoman69
12-18-2005, 10:34 PM
Not keeping John Tait
We were put in a situation where the Bears had tons of cap room to spare and frontloaded his contract to a ridiculous cap number. There was no way we could keep Tait.
I think the obvious failing that DV had was not firing his DC who gave him the 32 defense.

Rausch
12-18-2005, 10:37 PM
hiring Greg Robinson has his defensive coordinator


Robinson scheme did NOT fit the existing personnel AND didn't fit Vermeil's personnel preferences.


was a match made in hell from the very start

Couldn't agree more... :clap: