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Deberg_1990
12-18-2005, 05:04 PM
Think Carl would hire him? Does he deserve a 2nd chance after his failure in Buffalo?? Doesnt he have local ties to the KC area? His Redskins D is outstanding.

ping2000
12-18-2005, 05:05 PM
It isn't so much the head coach, but who his staff would be. If he brings in the same lamos he had in Buffalo, he would suck again. We need a HC that can build a quality staff.

Hammock Parties
12-18-2005, 05:06 PM
Works for me.

Baby Lee
12-18-2005, 05:07 PM
I wouldn't be surprised to see Williams as down with Gunther. With him as HC, keep AS and O coaching staff, and Gun with all new D trainers/coaches of his and Gregg's choosing. I'd take that.

ENDelt260
12-18-2005, 05:07 PM
There is a huge positive to having Williams as our HC. I would always know better than to actually get excited about the season beforehand.

No more broken dreams for me.

VonneMarie
12-18-2005, 05:08 PM
When was the last time the Chiefs had a defensive HC?

ping2000
12-18-2005, 05:09 PM
When was the last time the Chiefs had a defensive HC?

Goonther. Please fire his ass NOW!!!

VonneMarie
12-18-2005, 05:11 PM
Goonther. Please fire his ass NOW!!!
How quickly I forget those horrible two years. :(

Skip Towne
12-18-2005, 05:11 PM
Cntrygal says Williams sucks but hell, what do women know about football? (Runs away)

NJ Chief Fan
12-18-2005, 05:13 PM
what do you mean will carl hire him...CARL WONT BE WITH US NEXT YEAR

Deberg_1990
12-18-2005, 05:14 PM
A little revisionist history, I wonder what our team would look like if we would have hired Williams instead of Gunther 2 years ago???

FringeNC
12-18-2005, 05:16 PM
Gregg Williams has had a great D everywhere he is gone. With the right OC, he could be a great coach. I'd be extremely satisfied with Williams as long as we brought in a Coryell guy on offense and fired Gun.

FringeNC
12-18-2005, 05:17 PM
A little revisionist history, I wonder what our team would look like if we would have hired Williams instead of Gunther 2 years ago???

I think he may have been our first choice, but I think he was hired before our season was over (before Grob was fired).

royr17
12-18-2005, 05:18 PM
I still think Gunther would be good, just bring in his own defensive coaches and hopefully the problem is solved.

Skip Towne
12-18-2005, 05:20 PM
I still think Gunther would be good, just bring in his own defensive coaches and hopefully the problem is solved.
Wish in one hand and shit in the other. See which one fills up faster.

Hoover
12-18-2005, 05:20 PM
I think we must find a defensive guy to be the HC for next year. We have some nice talent on D. DJ, Allen, Warfield, Surtain, Knight, Mitchell. I think with the Right HC we could contine to revamp the D, then focus the O around LJ and the running game.

royr17
12-18-2005, 05:25 PM
Wish in one hand and shit in the other. See which one fills up faster.

Im not giving up yet. Gunther is still running a defense with GROB's coaches that are not suited for his defense.

ping2000
12-18-2005, 05:27 PM
Im not giving up yet. Gunther is still running a defense with GROB's coaches that are not suited for his defense.

These are DICK'S coaches. Guinta was with him in St. Loser.

Skip Towne
12-18-2005, 05:28 PM
Im not giving up yet. Gunther is still running a defense with GROB's coaches that are not suited for his defense.
Puhleeze. Gunther isn't smart enough to stop the cutback or bootleg. You can't lay that off on his coaches. Gun was only good when Marty was around to show him what to do. And Marty was smart enough not to take him to SD.

royr17
12-18-2005, 05:29 PM
These are DICK'S coaches. Guinta was with him in St. Loser.

Both actually. Dick cry's if he has to get rid of one. Ala Greg Robinson.

milkman
12-18-2005, 05:29 PM
A little revisionist history, I wonder what our team would look like if we would have hired Williams instead of Gunther 2 years ago???

Want to talk about revisionist history?

I wonder what this team would look like now if we had hired Marvin Lewis in 2000 like I wanted, rather than the Dick?

royr17
12-18-2005, 05:30 PM
Puhleeze. Gunther isn't smart enough to stop the cutback or bootleg. You can't lay that off on his coaches. Gun was only good when Marty was around to show him what to do. And Marty was smart enough not to take him to SD.

Maybe. I didnt really get into football until 99 but since then it has been football gallore for me.

ping2000
12-18-2005, 05:30 PM
Both actually. Dick cry's if he has to get rid of one. Ala Greg Robinson.

I hate all of them. Time to clean house. Hire no coach that has ever had any affiliation with Carl, Goon, or DICK.

royr17
12-18-2005, 05:31 PM
Want to talk about revisionist history?

I wonder what this team would look like now if we had hired Marvin Lewis in 2000 like I wanted, rather than the Dick.

Actually Dick was hired in 2001.

Skip Towne
12-18-2005, 05:31 PM
Want to talk about revisionist history?

I wonder what this team would look like now if we had hired Marvin Lewis in 2000 like I wanted, rather than the Dick.
You actually wanted somebody? Link?

jjchieffan
12-18-2005, 05:42 PM
When was the last time the Chiefs had a defensive HC?
Gunther..and Marty before him

htismaqe
12-18-2005, 06:33 PM
These are DICK'S coaches. Guinta was with him in St. Loser.

All of them except Guinta coached here in the mid-to-late 90's...

Deberg_1990
12-18-2005, 06:36 PM
I think its mostly DV and his soft attitude towards the defense. He holds no one accountable for when they play bad. He just brushes it off. Its frustrating....

milkman
12-18-2005, 06:38 PM
You actually wanted somebody? Link?

I'll provide a link, just as soon as you can get someone to bring back the data base from the 2000 season.

The Bad Guy
12-18-2005, 06:38 PM
I really can't see Al staying here if he's not named the HC.

Would anyone be in favor of allowing Martz to run the offense with Williams as the HC and Gunther as the DC?

I'd like Williams. I think learning from a coaching legend like Gibbs can only really help him in his 2nd go-round.

milkman
12-18-2005, 06:40 PM
Actually Dick was hired in 2001.

I was pimping Lewis during the 2000 season, before Gun was fired (with Carl's usual class) and the Dick was hired in early '01.

Hammock Parties
12-18-2005, 06:41 PM
Would anyone be in favor of allowing Martz to run the offense with Williams as the HC and Gunther as the DC?


You've got to be joking. Martz?

I want Williams, and I want him to bring in his own coaches. I'm guessing that is what he'd do, and none of them would be Gunther or Martz.

Baby Lee
12-18-2005, 06:42 PM
You know, living in St. Louis, I've had a good laugh for years watching Martz as HC, but when he moved from Trent to Kurt to Bulger, then comes up with Fitzpatrick [not him coaching, but it was his pickup], there has to be something there when it comes to finding and developing QBs.

Deberg_1990
12-18-2005, 06:44 PM
You know, living in St. Louis, I've had a good laugh for years watching Martz as HC, but when he moved from Trent to Kurt to Bulger, then comes up with Fitzpatrick [not him coaching, but it was his pickup], there has to be something there when it comes to finding and developing QBs.


Martz takes alot of heat, but hes not that bad. Hes does know how to build an offense and develop QB's thats a given. I think he'd be like a Dick Vermeil lite though. Most of his teams had no defense except that 2001 team with Love Smith.

RealSNR
12-18-2005, 06:44 PM
He spells his name Gregg. No thanks. What kind of a retard spells his name with two g's?

My name is Greg. Spelled the right way. This asshole has an extra G in his name for no good reason. Think of how much extra ink he has to use everytime he writes that extra g when he signs his name. Over the years, a couple pens' worth of ink would be used in just writing that damn extra G. It's pointless.

tk13
12-18-2005, 06:46 PM
You know, living in St. Louis, I've had a good laugh for years watching Martz as HC, but when he moved from Trent to Kurt to Bulger, then comes up with Fitzpatrick [not him coaching, but it was his pickup], there has to be something there when it comes to finding and developing QBs.
Yeah, and he needs to keep finding and developing them because he protects his QB's like Magic Johnson protected his weiner in the late 1980's.

Hammock Parties
12-18-2005, 06:46 PM
So now we're blaming his parents?

booger
12-18-2005, 06:48 PM
Pugac or Dean along with Guinta were never on a staff with Gun before.

DV ****ed up with 2 DL coaches IMO. It works with Solari and Eatman as his understudy. Hairston and Karmelowicz had always been the sole DL coach in the past. Seems Joe Vitt was right when he said to hell with coaching with Gun. Gun likes to throw the blame around but not at himself. It was embarassing with him and Pugac on the sidelines last week, even not knowing the whole story. He didn't seem to mind throwing Kurt Schot under a bus either even though he deserved it. Point is that Gun is a control freak and tries to do Everything himself. That was his biggest failure as HC. That and lack of communication. His communication skills are very piss poor. A media disaster in KC it sure was. That's not a knock on him, I just understand it alot because I am the same way. Get a too little over emotional at times and the only way to communicate is to scream yell and throw shit. People get sick of that quick. He has done a great job with Kawika though. Just like he did with Bullock in tennessee.

Even if he wanted his own assistants it might be harder than some of us realize for him to get who he wants or even if they would want to coach with him.

Which is really all of CP's fault in the first place. DV wants to run the whole damn show. They barely listen to the scouting department when it comes to players available. (with the exception of this past offseason) And definatley have a problem during the season as only players who were in camp come back for the practice squad or the active roster.
Yet CP lets it slide. I hope not any more. I am so sick of this shit at this time of year, year after year.

FringeNC
12-18-2005, 06:49 PM
You've got to be joking. Martz?

I want Williams, and I want him to bring in his own coaches. I'm guessing that is what he'd do, and none of them would be Gunther or Martz.

Did Williams and Gunther overlap at all at Tennessee? If there was any way Williams would keep Gunther, I wouldn't want Williams.

Skip Towne
12-18-2005, 06:50 PM
He spells his name Gregg. No thanks. What kind of a retard spells his name with two g's?

My name is Greg. Spelled the right way. This asshole has an extra G in his name for no good reason. Think of how much extra ink he has to use everytime he writes that extra g when he signs his name. Over the years, a couple pens' worth of ink would be used in just writing that damn extra G. It's pointless.
Math isn't your strong suit is it? I believe Gregg has three G's.

Hammock Parties
12-18-2005, 06:54 PM
Did Williams and Gunther overlap at all at Tennessee? If there was any way Williams would keep Gunther, I wouldn't want Williams.

Gunther has 2-year contract. I don't know the specifics, but I hope it's up as soon as the clock reads 0:00 against Cincinatti.

RealSNR
12-18-2005, 06:57 PM
Math isn't your strong suit is it? I believe Gregg has three G's.I meant at the end.

I mean, really. If he spells it Gregg, why not Greggg? It's pronounced the same way, and it's only an extra letter. How about 10 G's at the end? Twenty? It's all the same!

Skip Towne
12-18-2005, 07:05 PM
I meant at the end.

I mean, really. If he spells it Gregg, why not Greggg? It's pronounced the same way, and it's only an extra letter. How about 10 G's at the end? Twenty? It's all the same!
It's called the Redd Foxx rule.

The Bad Guy
12-18-2005, 07:07 PM
You've got to be joking. Martz?

I want Williams, and I want him to bring in his own coaches. I'm guessing that is what he'd do, and none of them would be Gunther or Martz.

Kidding how?

As an offensive coordinator, he was very, very good. He's a lousy HC.

Hammock Parties
12-18-2005, 07:08 PM
Kidding how?

As an offensive coordinator, he was very, very good. He's a lousy HC.

If Martz was our OC, there would be weekly threads about how we're wasting Larry Johnson.

Not to mention all the QBs he has killed.

Chiefs Pantalones
12-18-2005, 07:13 PM
I wouldn't mind having Gregg Williams as head coach, he has had great D's everywhere he's been.

I would want him to bring in his own defensive staff, that means let Gun go. And I'd want him to let AS go (because AS won't stay if we get someone else to head coach) but keep the same offensive system intact. All we need is better WRs, more depth at Oline, and a QBOTF in the draft. If it isn't broke, don't fix it.

I wouldn't mind AS, but I would kind of prefer Gregg Williams to AS.

No matter what, though, I want Dick gone. He doesn't have the energy, win or lose, to get this team on the same page, mentally and physically.

Just my thoughts, I think everything will work out fine.

milkman
12-18-2005, 07:26 PM
Did Williams and Gunther overlap at all at Tennessee? If there was any way Williams would keep Gunther, I wouldn't want Williams.

I'm fairly sure that Williams was hired as the Bills HC for the '01 season, and that Gun worked under Jim Swartz.

So no, I don't believe they overlapped.

Williams would be my third choice behind Mike Trgovic and Ron Rivera.

booger
12-18-2005, 07:30 PM
Rivera as HC
Singletary as DC
Solari as OC
?