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If a CB is running toward his endzone in coverage, and intercepts the ball on, say, the two yeard line, and his big momentum carries him into the endzone, what is the result? Possession on the two?
Demonpenz
12-19-2005, 01:52 AM
you get on the two or whatever the forward progres was .
I think the result better be him running out of the endzone before he gets tackled.
So it'd be a safety if he got cleaned up in the endzone?
you get on the two or whatever the forward progres was .
So, extending the logic, if the same thing happened on the 50, and he ran back to the 40 and got tackled there, they would get the ball on the 50?
EDIT: post referred to luv2rite's which was suggesting the result might be touchback.
I thought that might be the case, but then you're giving the CB an incentive to run into the endzone when he doesn't really need to. Unless the refs subjectively judge whether it was his momentum or his choice to run in.
Demonpenz
12-19-2005, 01:57 AM
So, extending the logic, if the same thing happened on the 50, and he ran back to the 40 and got tackled there, they would get the ball on the 50?
no you said his momentum carried him in. if you intercept a ball at the 50 and fall back to the 48 you get it on the 50
So, extending the logic, if the same thing happened on the 50, and he ran back to the 40 and got tackled there, they would get the ball on the 50?
Okay, I'm gonna be brave and say no, it would be on the 40.
What is it about a touchback? Something about going back to the 20 yard line.
EDIT: post referred to luv2rite's which was suggesting the result might be touchback.
I thought that might be the case, but then you're giving the CB an incentive to run into the endzone when he doesn't really need to. Unless the refs subjectively judge whether it was his momentum or his choice to run in.
If he runs it in on his own free will, don't they get it on the goal line then?
no you said his momentum carried him in. if you intercept a ball at the 50 and fall back to the 48 you get it on the 50
Yeah, when i said "run" i meant run as in momentum. Imagine the guy is doing his 4.4 40 yard dash toward his own goal line in coverage, then gets the pick. Well if he's at the one or two, he's going into the endzone whether he likes it or not.
I think you've answered the question.
Demonpenz
12-19-2005, 02:02 AM
eh they might give you the touchback.
It's not going to be a touchback unless he takes possession in the endzone. Now, if he's airborne, catches the ball, and lands in the endzone... I would assume that's a touchback. But, if you're on the ground, grab the ball, and run into the endzone... I think you'd better get the f*ck out.
But, like I said... don't take my word for it. I'm barely better than a girl when it comes to this stuff. I came here to learn... and stayed because they didn't kick me out.
But if he runs it in due to not being able to stop foward momentum, wouldn't it be the same thing? Is there a certain way to judge, like more than two steps and it's not foward momentum, or is it up to the refs?
It's not going to be a touchback unless he takes possession in the endzone. Now, if he's airborne, catches the ball, and lands in the endzone... I would assume that's a touchback. But, if you're on the ground, grab the ball, and run into the endzone... I think you'd better get the f*ck out.
But, like I said... don't take my word for it. I'm barely better than a girl when it comes to this stuff. I came here to learn... and stayed because they didn't kick me out.
Okay cool. I meant your latter example - taking a pick on the run (like at full throttle) at your 1 or 2, towards your own line. What would you do? You can't stop in one yard, it isn't possible. Maybe you just don't take the pick.
greg63
12-19-2005, 02:05 AM
I think if it is determined that his momentum carried him into the end zone then it would be a touch back. However, I'm not certain.
Who gives a shit about his forward momentum? The man took posession of the ball in the field of play. He better find a way to turn around in two yards time.
So you'd bat the ball away and not take the pick? Cos you aren't stopping in two yards.
Who gives a shit about his forward momentum? The man took posession of the ball in the field of play. He better find a way to turn around in two yards time.
Or toss it back to someone before getting in the endzone. That happened during the Denver game at home didn't it? I remember asking dad what it was about. I can't remember where they ended up at. The refs did say he was down in the endzone before passing it back though.
I think you take the pick and turn and run like hell.
You mean into the endzone and out again? Or doing the U turn in 2 yards?
If guys can turn from full speed in two yards then they need to be teaching the wide recievers who have trouble even planting two feet in two yards to make catches on the sidelines or in the endzone.
What's really funny about this thread is I bet if this happened in a game, the "professional" announcers would flip flop more than this conversation has.
You're definitely right about that. Another good thing about this thread...I actually could contribute to it! :)
KC-Chef
12-19-2005, 02:10 AM
It's a Touch Back. Just as if he caught it in the endzone.
greg63
12-19-2005, 02:13 AM
What's really funny about this thread is I bet if this happened in a game, the "professional" announcers would flip flop more than this conversation has.
ROFLROFLROFL
…AAAAAHHHHHH, yes; Frank Gifford and John Madden. :D
greg63
12-19-2005, 02:14 AM
It's a Touch Back. Just as if he caught it in the endzone.
That's what I'm thinking.
It's a Touch Back. Just as if he caught it in the endzone.
Cheers.
That's what I'm thinking.
Damn! I should have deleted my first post. That's what I get for second guessing myself. I was actually on the right track.
Demonpenz
12-19-2005, 02:17 AM
it depends also on what hand he has the ball in. That can make a huge difference as we saw in saturdays game
greg63
12-19-2005, 02:22 AM
Damn! I should have deleted my first post. That's what I get for second guessing myself. I was actually on the right track.
That's alright luv, I'm not a football guru; just unafraid of being wrong. It's happened so often that I've gotten used to it. :D
It's a little like taking a multiple choice exam in school; always go with your first instinct.
greg63
12-19-2005, 02:25 AM
Pull the fire alarm?
ROFLROFLROFLROFL Yuppers!!!
Pull the fire alarm?
Stop making me laugh. I can't rep you more than once in a row. :banghead:
You gave me rep? Was it sexually suggestive? Oooh, I can't wait to see.
Actually, I left it blank so you could use your imagination.
Thinking is hard.
That's good if you're thinking with the right head.
Did you just make a penis joke?
My girlfriend will beat you up.
Oops.
Me? Make a penis joke? Never.
Well....oh, nevermind. Tell her to bring it on! :)
greg63
12-19-2005, 02:34 AM
What is the Fox network coming to? Some revived episode of "Green Acres" is on.
jjchieffan
12-19-2005, 02:35 AM
[QUOTE=ENDelt260]Don't take my word for it. I'm an idiot. To get a good answer on that, you'd probably want to post that question in the daytime. I'm mostly just here to annoy people.
Thanks for confirming my suspicions, although I did have a pretty good idea already ROFL
What is the Fox network coming to? Some revived episode of "Green Acres" is on.
I make a penis joke, and you bring up a show containing farm animals? :shake:
:p
greg63
12-19-2005, 02:38 AM
I make a penis joke, and you bring up a show containing farm animals? :shake:
:p
Good/bad timing. ROFL
greg63
12-19-2005, 02:40 AM
The town in "Green Acres" is HOOTERville.
The town in "Green Acres" is HOOTERville.
How ironic...lol.
greg63
12-19-2005, 02:43 AM
How ironic...lol.
How fitting. ROFL
Like a black fly in your chardonnay?
Like a free ride when I've already paid.
Oops...I guess I shoulda said...
Like a death row pardon two minutes too late.
greg63
12-19-2005, 02:44 AM
Like a black fly in your chardonnay?
ROFLROFLROFL
greg63
12-19-2005, 02:47 AM
Like a free ride when I've already paid.
Oops...I guess I shoulda said...
Like a death row pardon two minutes too late.
...Or getting a letter from a rich relative stating that they would have sent money, but had already sealed the envelope?? :shrug:
...Or getting a letter from a rich relative stating that they would have sent money, but already sealed the envelope?? :shrug:
Nope, I don't remember that line in the song. :p
Alright, everybody in this thread is banned for quoting Alanis Morrisette. More than once even.
greg63
12-19-2005, 02:50 AM
G'night all.
Nite luv!
Mecca
12-19-2005, 02:52 AM
What's sad is nothing in that song is even ironic.
greg63
12-19-2005, 02:53 AM
Alright, everybody in this thread is banned for quoting Alanis Morrisette. More than once even.
Ok, but what about the original question? ...It's a touch back isn't it?
greg63
12-19-2005, 02:59 AM
Hey man... my post had a point.
Yeah, mine was pretty much pointless, but on the other hand had nothing to do with song lyrics.
Mecca
12-19-2005, 02:59 AM
Ok, but what about the original question? ...It's a touch back isn't it?
I'm pretty sure it's possesion on the 2. About 5 years ago in a Raiders Seahawks game a Raider player intercepted a ball and his momentum carried him into the endzone and it was called a safety. Seattle ended up getting the ball back because of that and winning by a point I believe.
The rule was changed after the season.
greg63
12-19-2005, 03:02 AM
I'm pretty sure it's possesion on the 2. About 5 years ago in a Raiders Seahawks game a Raider player intercepted a ball and his momentum carried him into the endzone and it was called a safety. Seattle ended up getting the ball back because of that and winning by a point I believe.
The rule was changed after the season.
:hmmm: ...Didn't know that.
Well, as i should have done in the first place...
<q>Examples of Non-Safety:</q>
(a) Player intercepts a pass with both feet inbounds in the field of play and his momentum carries him into his own end zone. Ball is put in play at spot of interception.
Skip Towne
12-19-2005, 07:26 AM
I came here to learn... and stayed because they didn't kick me out.
...yet.
angel
12-19-2005, 01:01 PM
Alright, everybody in this thread is banned for quoting Alanis Morrisette. More than once even.
she's cool
I saw her in concert once
Who's gonna kick me out now? Phil's gone. I've got the run of this joint.
Mutiny
greg63
12-19-2005, 01:25 PM
Mutiny
Are we at sea??? :p:D
Are we at sea??? :p:D
Hmmm....ok.
Revolt.
greg63
12-19-2005, 02:03 PM
Hmmm....ok.
Revolt.
That's better. :D
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