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dj56dt58
01-27-2006, 01:09 PM
WTF? He didn't start half the games and still put up unbelievable numbers. Shawn Alexander, Tiki Barber, and LT are all on the list. Didn't LJ finish w/ better numbers than LT? WTF

Scorp
01-27-2006, 01:34 PM
Don't worry about it. Next year people will be saying Shawn who? Larry Johnson will destroy the rushing record next year. LT will no longer get the hype he has been getting. I can't wait.

Reaper16
01-27-2006, 01:35 PM
LT got in over LJ because of name recognition alone. Yeah, kinda bs.

MOhillbilly
01-27-2006, 01:39 PM
LJ doesnt get the same lovefest in the media.

Deberg_1990
01-27-2006, 01:51 PM
LJ's team didnt make the playoffs. LT has been the consensus media choice for best all around back for the past 2 or 3 years now. IM not sure I agree with that, but who cares? I honestly could care less about what most of the meda thinks.

htismaqe
01-27-2006, 01:53 PM
When LJ simultaneously shatters Dickerson's rushing record and Alexander's TD record next season, they WILL take notice. :D

beer bacon
01-27-2006, 01:54 PM
If LJ really wants to be the top RB he needs to improve on his passing. LT still has a huge edge there.

phxchief
01-27-2006, 02:05 PM
LJ's team didnt make the playoffs.

Last time I checked, neither did LT's, and the last time I remember watching - LJ was running all over LT's team whilst LT looked like an NFL Europe back.

dj56dt58
01-27-2006, 02:07 PM
Yeah I remember a few years ago when people started talking about LT instead of Priest Holmes. Next year we're stealing it right back when people start talking about LJ instead of LT.

StcChief
01-27-2006, 02:15 PM
LJ stay out of trouble in the off season.

CoMoChief
01-27-2006, 03:44 PM
Tiki Barber's game against us is the only reason he's being considered. He's an average back IMO. Larry Johnson will crush a bunch of records next season. I'm saying that he will rush for 2000 yards and 30 TD's.

wutamess
01-27-2006, 03:57 PM
Never mind the fact that Tiki also had 2 200 yard games also?

Reaper16
01-27-2006, 05:24 PM
Tiki Barber's game against us is the only reason he's being considered. He's an average back IMO. Larry Johnson will crush a bunch of records next season. I'm saying that he will rush for 2000 yards and 30 TD's.
Barber had an insane year. 1860 rushing yards, and an astronomical 2400 yards from scrimmage.

Frazod
01-27-2006, 05:57 PM
When LJ simultaneously shatters Dickerson's rushing record and Alexander's TD record next season, they WILL take notice. :D

Don't bet on it. He may have to simultaneously cure cancer AND kill bin Laden with his bare hands in addition to breaking both of those records to get any attention. He does play for us, remember?

:shake:

Skyy God
01-27-2006, 06:01 PM
I blame the East Coast media.

kcfanXIII
01-27-2006, 06:10 PM
who cares if lj dosen't get noticed right now. maybe if he breaks all the records next year while carrying us to a super bowl, he'll get his recognition.

KingPriest2
01-27-2006, 08:13 PM
Tiki Barber's game against us is the only reason he's being considered. He's an average back IMO. Larry Johnson will crush a bunch of records next season. I'm saying that he will rush for 2000 yards and 30 TD's.


He had 3 200 yard rushing games last year.

He ONLY had 1860 yards which is what 10th best of alltime only 20 yards behind Alexander

If you call him a average back man I would love to see what you think what a great back is

He only had 2390 total yards last year.

But he did have only 9 rushing TDS

OH yeah he is OVER 30 as well

GAMEDATE Opp RESULT GS Att Yds Avg Lg TD Rec Yds Avg Lg TD Fum Rec Yds TD
09/11 ARI W 42-19 Yes 13 62 4.8 21 1 2 60 30.0 31 0 0 0 0 0
09/19 @NO W 27-10 Yes 22 83 3.8 12 1 1 6 6.0 6 1 0 0 0 0
09/25 @SD L 23-45 Yes 15 60 4.0 27 0 1 5 5.0 5 0 0 0 0 0

October Rushing Receiving Fumbles
GAMEDATE Opp RESULT GS Att Yds Avg Lg TD Rec Yds Avg Lg TD Fum Rec Yds TD
10/02 STL W 44-24 Yes 24 128 5.3 16 1 2 15 7.5 9 0 0 0 0 0
10/16 @DAL L 13-16 Yes 14 64 4.6 9 0 1 5 5.0 5 0 0 0 0 0
10/23 DEN W 24-23 Yes 19 86 4.5 34 1 6 24 4.0 9 0 1 0 0 0
10/30 WAS W 36-0 Yes 24 206 8.6 59 1 1 5 5.0 5 0 0 0 0 0

November Rushing Receiving Fumbles
GAMEDATE Opp RESULT GS Att Yds Avg Lg TD Rec Yds Avg Lg TD Fum Rec Yds TD
11/06 @SF W 24-6 Yes 21 71 3.4 14 0 2 32 16.0 19 0 0 0 0 0
11/13 MIN L 21-24 Yes 23 95 4.1 13 1 8 111 13.9 48 0 0 0 0 0
11/20 PHI W 27-17 Yes 21 112 5.3 55 0 2 22 11.0 15 0 0 1 0 0
11/27 @SEA L 21-24 Yes 26 151 5.8 49 0 5 27 5.4 9 0 0 0 0 0

December Rushing Receiving Fumbles
GAMEDATE Opp RESULT GS Att Yds Avg Lg TD Rec Yds Avg Lg TD Fum Rec Yds TD
12/04 DAL W 17-10 Yes 30 115 3.8 27 0 1 9 9.0 9 0 0 0 0 0
12/11 @PHI W 26-23 Yes 32 124 3.9 26 0 5 71 14.2 32 1 0 0 0 0
12/17 KC W 27-17 Yes 29 220 7.6 55 2 5 29 5.8 9 0 0 0 0 0
12/24 @WAS L 20-35 Yes 16 80 5.0 31 0 6 49 8.2 19 0 0 0 0 0
12/31 @OAK W 30-21 Yes 28 203 7.3 95 1 6 60 10.0 28 0 0 0 0 0

January Rushing Receiving Fumbles
GAMEDATE Opp RESULT GS Att Yds Avg Lg TD Rec Yds Avg Lg TD Fum Rec Yds TD
01/08 CAR L 0-23 Yes 13 41 3.2 9 0 3 28 9.3 17 0 0 0 0 0

penchief
01-27-2006, 08:20 PM
Tiki is not just an average back. He is in the mold of Priest. He's someone who has worked hard to get better every year. He deserves the recognition that he's receiving right now.

On the other hand, I completely agree with those who say that LJ will break records. I've said exactly the same thing since the day he was drafted.

Both of my brothers are huge Cowboy fans. One of them said to me, "I feel sorry for Larry Johnson because if he had started the whole season he would have had a chance at breaking the single season rushing record."

I replied, "Don't feel sorry for LJ because he will break the single season rushing record and he'll probably do it next season."

pak1983
01-27-2006, 08:23 PM
Nick Athan's inside sources are confirming Larry Johnson is in fact Chuck Norris.

Reaper16
01-27-2006, 08:24 PM
Nick Athan's inside sources are confirming Larry Johnson is in fact Chuck Norris.
Correction, he's Jack Bauer.

jspchief
01-27-2006, 10:01 PM
Why do people insist on clinging to the "he only started 9 games" bullshit.

What difference does it make how many games he "started"? He had the 7th most carries in the league. His number of starts is such an irrelevant stat.

KingPriest2
01-27-2006, 10:44 PM
Why do people insist on clinging to the "he only started 9 games" bullshit.

What difference does it make how many games he "started"? He had the 7th most carries in the league. His number of starts is such an irrelevant stat.


Bullshit.


Priest took carries away from him in the first 7 games.

September Rushing Receiving Fumbles
GAMEDATE Opp RESULT GS Att Yds Avg Lg TD Rec Yds Avg Lg TD Fum Rec Yds TD
09/11 NYJ W 27-7 No 9 110 12.2 35 2 1 11 11.0 11 0 0 0 0 0
09/18 @OAK W 23-17 No 9 41 4.6 11 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
09/26 @DEN L 10-30 No 8 13 1.6 6 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0

26 carries 159 yards in 3 games 1 catch 11 yards

10/02 PHI L 31-37 No 7 34 4.9 21 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0
10/16 WAS W 28-21 No 13 53 4.1 19 0 1 2 2.0 2 0 0 0 0 0
10/21 @MIA W 30-20 No 23 93 4.0 19 1 1 26 26.0 26 0 0 0 0 0
10/30 @SD L 20-28 No 6 55 9.2 46 0 3 28 9.3 17 0 0 0 0 0

49 carries 235 yards in 4 games 5 catches 56 yards

75 for 394 6 for 67 yards in 7 games


10.7 rushes 56.2 yards a game less then 1 catch 9.5
11.5 touches 65.7 yards

11/06 OAK W 27-23 Yes 22 107 4.9 15 2 3 48 16.0 36 0 0 1 0 0
11/13 @BUF L 3-14 Yes 27 132 4.9 24 0 5 46 9.2 14 0 0 0 0 0
11/20 @HOU W 45-17 Yes 36 211 5.9 30 2 1 6 6.0 6 0 0 0 0 0
11/27 NE W 26-16 Yes 31 119 3.8 16 1 5 53 10.6 30 0 1 0 0 0
12/04 DEN W 31-27 Yes 30 140 4.7 30 2 2 9 4.5 6 0 0 0 0 0
12/11 @DAL L 28-31 Yes 26 143 5.5 26 3 3 28 9.3 12 0 0 0 0 0
12/17 @NYG L 17-27 Yes 31 167 5.4 28 2 2 17 8.5 9 0 0 0 0 0
12/24 SD W 20-7 Yes 32 131 4.1 21 1 4 48 12.0 28 1 1 1 0 0
01/01 CIN W 37-3 Yes 26 201 7.7 49 3 2 21 10.5 13 0 1 1 0 0

261 for 1356 27 276 yards

288 touches 1642 yards

29 rushes 150.6 yards 3 30.6 yards
32 touches for 181.2 yards a game

translate that to a 16 game
512 touches for 2899 yards 5.66 yards per touch
464 carries for 2409.6
48 catches 489.6
Here are Priests numbers

09/11 NYJ W 27-7 Yes 22 85 3.9 35 1 1 5 5.0 5 0 0 0 0 0
09/18 @OAK W 23-17 Yes 19 75 3.9 20 1 3 15 5.0 8 0 0 0 0 0
09/26 @DEN L 10-30 Yes 14 61 4.4 16 0 3 32 10.7 23 0 0 0 0 0
10/02 PHI L 31-37 Yes 18 84 4.7 16 1 5 24 4.8 10 0 0 0 0 0
10/16 WAS W 28-21 Yes 14 18 1.3 9 1 5 100 20.0 60 1 1 0 0 0
10/21 @MIA W 30-20 Yes 18 90 5.0 35 2 1 6 6.0 6 0 0 0 0 0
10/30 @SD L 20-28 Yes 14 38 2.7 12 0 3 15 5.0 10 0 0 0 0 0


119 for 451 21 for 197

17 rushes 3 catches a game.


You see Priest took carries away from LJ

He went from around 11 touches a game up to 32
10 rushes to 29
less then 1 catch to 3

This is why you bring up only starting 9 games Yeah he had carrries but ONLY IN 9 GAMES AND NOT THE 7 OTHERS

jspchief
01-27-2006, 10:51 PM
Bullshit.

This is why you bring up only starting 9 games Yeah he had carrries but ONLY IN 9 GAMES AND NOT THE 7 OTHERS

So what? That's on the coaches. It's not like he accomplished that much more on that many less carries. The coaches just ran the ever-living shit out of him in those remaining 9 games.

There are a lot of real stats that you can use to hype LJ. Yards per carry, Yards per game, Carries per TD, 20+ yard runs, etc, etc.

It's silly to use the hollow "only started 9 games" crap.

KingPriest2
01-27-2006, 11:02 PM
So what? That's on the coaches. It's not like he accomplished that much more on that many less carries. The coaches just ran the ever-living shit out of him in those remaining 9 games.

There are a lot of real stats that you can use to hype LJ. Yards per carry, Yards per game, Carries per TD, 20+ yard runs, etc, etc.

It's silly to use the hollow "only started 9 games" crap.


WHy? He only had 10 rushes a game in those 7 games

Tell me how many carries does a starting running back avg a game?

Alot more then 10 right?

So wouldn't it be right to say he would have alot more carries in those 7 games if he did start?

lets just say avg is 22 carries a game that is 12 more then what he had in the first 7 games.

ok 7 times 12 is 84 more carries 364 more yards

he had 1750 yards plus 364 is 2114 yards which would be a new record

but Larry is a Beast so he could prob avg 27 carries a game 17 more then the first 7

17 times 7 119 more carries in those first 7 games 618 yards

He had fewer carries in those first 7 games If he started he would've had more carries

See our point.

Reaper16
01-27-2006, 11:05 PM
See our point.
Is your point that LJ would have gotten too many carries? We're going to Eddie George early him at this rate.

jspchief
01-27-2006, 11:17 PM
Is your point that LJ would have gotten too many carries? We're going to Eddie George early him at this rate.If LJ had received same carries per game in the first 7 that he got in the final 9, he would have shattered the record for most carries in a season by more than 50 carries.

Sure, maybe he gets 2300 yards doing it, but he's still getting those yards by getting so many carries.

I mean, if Shaun Alexander had averaged 30+ carries per game over the last 9 games, his stats would have been ridiculous too.

There is a list of impressive stats for LJ. I just don't think "only starting 9 games" is one of them.

KingPriest2
01-27-2006, 11:21 PM
If LJ had received same carries per game in the first 7 that he got in the final 9, he would have shattered the record for most carries in a season by more than 50 carries.

Sure, maybe he gets 2300 yards doing it, but he's still getting those yards by getting so many carries.

I mean, if Shaun Alexander had averaged 30+ carries per game over the last 9 games, his stats would have been ridiculous too.

There is a list of impressive stats for LJ. I just don't think "only starting 9 games" is one of them.


Bullshit

Alexander avg 23 That is fact

LJ when he started avg 29 That is fact

He avg 10 when he did not start

Answer my question

jspchief
01-27-2006, 11:30 PM
Bullshit

Alexander avg 23 That is fact

LJ when he started avg 29 That is fact

He avg 10 when he did not start

Answer my questionWhat question?

KingPriest2
01-27-2006, 11:31 PM
What question?


See post 24

jspchief
01-27-2006, 11:35 PM
See post 24OK. So you're suggesting that LJ would have averaged 29 carries per game for a full 16 game season?

You're missing the point anyway. LJ got about the same number of chances to carry the ball as the other top rushers in the NFL. You make it out like he got less opportunity than the the other top RBs.

tk13
01-27-2006, 11:37 PM
If you take LJ's stats from the last 8 games from when the coaching staff supposedly "figured out our identity", i.e. run the daylights out of LJ, this would be stats over a full season.

478 carries, 2488 yds, 28 TD

48 catches, 456 yds, 2 TD

Total: 526 touches, 2944 yds, 30 TD


Records:
Most carries, season: 410
Most rushing yds, season: 2,105
Most total yds, season: 2,429
Most rushing TD's, season: 27
Most total TD's, season: 28

KingPriest2
01-27-2006, 11:38 PM
OK. So you're suggesting that LJ would have averaged 29 carries per game for a full 16 game season?

You're missing the point anyway. LJ got about the same number of chances to carry the ball as the other top rushers in the NFL. You make it out like he got less opportunity than the the other top RBs.



But LJ is a freak of nature. He can carry the ball alot more not that I like it but he could.

He can carry 29 carries a game for 16 games but it would be more like 26 or so.


But wouldn't you agree he would have more carries if he did start those 7 games?

KingPriest2
01-27-2006, 11:40 PM
If you take LJ's stats from the last 8 games from when the coaching staff supposedly "figured out our identity", i.e. run the daylights out of LJ, this would be stats over a full season.

478 carries, 2488 yds, 28 TD

48 catches, 456 yds, 2 TD

Total: 526 touches, 2944 yds, 30 TD

Most carries, season: 410
Most rushing yds, season: 2,105
Most total yds, season: 2,429
Most rushing TD's, season: 27
Most total TD's, season: 28


See post 22

007
01-27-2006, 11:40 PM
If LJ really wants to be the top RB he needs to improve on his passing. LT still has a huge edge there.

LJ needs to improve on his passing? ROFL :hmmm:

KingPriest2
01-27-2006, 11:45 PM
OK. So you're suggesting that LJ would have averaged 29 carries per game for a full 16 game season?

You're missing the point anyway. LJ got about the same number of chances to carry the ball as the other top rushers in the NFL. You make it out like he got less opportunity than the the other top RBs.


You would have to admit he would have had more carries then what he finished with if he did start those games.

tk13
01-27-2006, 11:46 PM
See post 22
Yeah... so? LJ didn't get as many touches early in the season, yet he was still one of the league leaders in carries. What's your point? Holding him back early in the season kept him from shattering the carries record. I really don't want to see him break that.

tk13
01-27-2006, 11:48 PM
You would have to admit he have more carries then what he finished with if he did start those games.
The first John Madden award of the year goes to...

KingPriest2
01-27-2006, 11:49 PM
Yeah... so? LJ didn't get as many touches early in the season, yet he was still one of the league leaders in carries. What's your point? Holding him back early in the season kept him from shattering the carries record. I really don't want to see him break that.


No I was breaking the stats down further for you.

But LJ to me is capable of carrying the load like that.

He would have had more carries then 336 carries if he did start That is all I am saying.

jspchief
01-27-2006, 11:49 PM
But LJ is a freak of nature. He can carry the ball alot more not that I like it but he could.

He can carry 29 carries a game for 16 games but it would be more like 26 or so.


But wouldn't you agree he would have more carries if he did start those 7 games?Of course he would have had more carries starting those games. He also would have had the rushing title and the TD record among various other records. 26 carries per game would break the existing record for rushing attempts in a season.

But that's entirely beside my point. When you say "and he did it only starting 9 games", you imply that LJ racked up his stats with considerably less opportunities than the other top RBs in the league. That's misleading. In reality, he got close to the same number of opportunities. Opportunities don't come from starts, they come from carries.

KingPriest2
01-27-2006, 11:50 PM
The first John Madden award of the year goes to...


fixed it

tk13
01-27-2006, 11:51 PM
He only had 4 less carries than Tomlinson, actually...

Hammock Parties
01-27-2006, 11:54 PM
I'll bet anyone right now that LJ doesn't gain 1,750 yards next year.

KingPriest2
01-27-2006, 11:57 PM
Of course he would have had more carries starting those games. He also would have had the rushing title and the TD record among various other records. 26 carries per game would break the existing record for rushing attempts in a season.

But that's entirely beside my point. When you say "and he did it only starting 9 games", you imply that LJ racked up his stats with considerably less opportunities than the other top RBs in the league. That's misleading. In reality, he got close to the same number of opportunities. Opportunities don't come from starts, they come from carries.


Yes they do You even said so yourself

"Of course he would have had more carries starting those games".

You just contradicted yourself

Opportunities don't come from starts, they come from carries

He would have had more carries if he started. SO if he started then he would have had more opportunities

jspchief
01-27-2006, 11:57 PM
I'll bet anyone right now that LJ doesn't gain 1,750 yards next year.Haven't you been paying attention?

He's going to break the attempts in a season record by 50 carries and rush for 2300 yards.

Then he can end his career early, just like Jamal Anderson.

KingPriest2
01-27-2006, 11:59 PM
He only had 4 less carries than Tomlinson, actually...


Overrated LT is.

jspchief
01-28-2006, 12:02 AM
Yes they do You even said so yourself

"Of course he would have had more carries starting those games".

You just contradicted yourself

Opportunities don't come from starts, they come from carries

He would have had more carries if he started. SO if he started then he would have had more opportunitiesYou're completely missing the point, and I'm tired of explaining it to you.

What LJ accomplished was impressive, but the fact that he only started nine games doen't make those accomplishments any more impressive.

KingPriest2
01-28-2006, 12:09 AM
You're completely missing the point, and I'm tired of explaining it to you.

What LJ accomplished was impressive, but the fact that he only started nine games doen't make those accomplishments any more impressive.


Yes it is what you said proved my point.


You stated he would have had more carries if he would have started those games

You stated oppurtunities come from carries.

So if he had more carries then he would have had more yards.

ok Would you admit 1366 yards in 9 games is impressive?

HE had 394 yards in the other 7 games.

That is why it is so impressive If he had started that number would be alot higher

Hammock Parties
01-28-2006, 12:14 AM
I doubt the Chiefs would have given LJ 500 carries.

KingPriest2
01-28-2006, 12:27 AM
You're completely missing the point, and I'm tired of explaining it to you.

What LJ accomplished was impressive, but the fact that he only started nine games doen't make those accomplishments any more impressive.


How many more carries do you think he would have had if he did start those 7 games?

Then multiply that by 5.2

That is why is is impressive that he only started 9 games

He would have broken the record if he did start those games.

penchief
01-28-2006, 12:30 AM
How many more carries do you think he would have had if he did start those 7 games?

Then multiply that by 5.2

That is why is is impressive that he only started 7 games

He would have broken the record if he did start those games.

you're right.

tk13
01-28-2006, 12:37 AM
I'll bet anyone right now that LJ doesn't gain 1,750 yards next year.
I think he can. He has the ability to, I wouldn't be surprised at all. I really don't want to see him reach 400 carries or 2000 yards though, unless he averages like 6 yards a carry to get there. That's too much work.

The-Beast
01-28-2006, 02:33 AM
"WTF? He didn't start half the games and still put up unbelievable numbers. Shawn Alexander, Tiki Barber, and LT are all on the list. Didn't LJ finish w/ better numbers than LT? WTF" dj56dt58 . as a charger fan i do believe LJ should have been on the ballot and that he is being overlooked due to this being his breakout year. he also got overlooked due to either tiki or shawn having monster games each time he had a monster game so he got less attention then he should have while LT had Monster games when all the other running backs went silent. so he amounted 3 or 4 ground player of the week while LJ had 1 or 2 ?

Thig Lyfe
01-28-2006, 05:28 PM
LJ should have been offensive POY.


(BTW, it's spelled S-h-a-u-n.)

Hydrae
01-28-2006, 05:45 PM
Yes it is what you said proved my point.


You stated he would have had more carries if he would have started those games

You stated oppurtunities come from carries.

So if he had more carries then he would have had more yards.

ok Would you admit 1366 yards in 9 games is impressive?

HE had 394 yards in the other 7 games.

That is why it is so impressive If he had started that number would be alot higher


But the strawman of number of starts is misleading given how we used him those first 7 games. It is not like he was on the bench and only got the ball 3 times a game to give Priest a blow.

But I have to agree with JSP here, talk about his number of carries, not the number of starts. That is a more accurate figure and is closer to showing the reality of the situation. Talk about his YPC average. Point out that although he was 7th in the league in number of carries, he was 3rd in yardage. But in the big picture, games started is misleading at best and irrelevant to boot.

Calcountry
01-28-2006, 06:34 PM
WTF? He didn't start half the games and still put up unbelievable numbers. Shawn Alexander, Tiki Barber, and LT are all on the list. Didn't LJ finish w/ better numbers than LT? WTFBecause he did <>to the rest of the league.

carlos3652
01-28-2006, 07:14 PM
REASON LJ DIDNT MAKE IT OVER LT:

Alexander - Playoffs -#1 Rusher - Broke TD record- 1 Fed ex player of the week award

Barber - Playoffs - #2 Rusher - #1 YLOS - 2 Fed ex awards

LJ - #3 Rusher - 2 Fed ex awards

LT - #6 Rusher - 5 fed ex awards


They would not leave LT out when he won their award 1/3 of the time...

Demonpenz
01-28-2006, 07:15 PM
LJ will get hurt and miss a game or two. Someone is going to land on his leg or he will pull a muscle. It's bound to happen

jspchief
01-28-2006, 07:18 PM
LJ will get hurt and miss a game or two. Someone is going to land on his leg or he will pull a muscle. It's bound to happenJesus f*cking christ. Knock on wood when you say shit like that. :mad:

Demonpenz
01-28-2006, 07:23 PM
Next year is the year trent gets knocked out too. His age will catch up with him. Also you guys are missing out on an important stat on LJ

Times owned by SCOTT FREAKING FUJITA 1

jspchief
01-28-2006, 07:25 PM
Next year is the year trent gets knocked out too. His age will catch up with him. Also you guys are missing out on an important stat on LJ

Times owned by SCOTT FREAKING FUJITA 1OK, Taco.

KingPriest2
01-29-2006, 05:20 PM
But the strawman of number of starts is misleading given how we used him those first 7 games. It is not like he was on the bench and only got the ball 3 times a game to give Priest a blow.

But I have to agree with JSP here, talk about his number of carries, not the number of starts. That is a more accurate figure and is closer to showing the reality of the situation. Talk about his YPC average. Point out that although he was 7th in the league in number of carries, he was 3rd in yardage. But in the big picture, games started is misleading at best and irrelevant to boot.


Whatever even JSP admitted if he got the starts he would have had more carries. So if that was the case more then likely he would have broken the record.

johnson&surtain
01-29-2006, 05:36 PM
That is bull that he is not even a canidate

KingPriest2
01-29-2006, 05:41 PM
But the strawman of number of starts is misleading given how we used him those first 7 games. It is not like he was on the bench and only got the ball 3 times a game to give Priest a blow.

But I have to agree with JSP here, talk about his number of carries, not the number of starts. That is a more accurate figure and is closer to showing the reality of the situation. Talk about his YPC average. Point out that although he was 7th in the league in number of carries, he was 3rd in yardage. But in the big picture, games started is misleading at best and irrelevant to boot.

He only avg 10 a game That is 75 carries. Wow I hate to see my starting running back have that many carries in 7 games

kcxiv
01-29-2006, 05:48 PM
LJ didnt really take that many hits. I mean as a running back you get hit, but he didnt get hit hard alot of the times.

He can handle the load, you may as well get all you can out of him, He is a bigger running back. He probalby wont hold up no matter what. There is very very few running backs that ever hold up for 10 years. He is 26 already. Get what you can out of him. USe him. Ride his ass to the superbowl if you can.

He only started 1 season in College. Hardly played at all in his first 2 years. He has a lot left in him.

milkman
01-29-2006, 05:54 PM
That is bull that he is not even a canidate

Trung is the only Canidate.

Skip Towne
01-29-2006, 06:33 PM
LJ will get hurt and miss a game or two. Someone is going to land on his leg or he will pull a muscle. It's bound to happen
That's not going to happen. LJ doesn't have muscles and tendons. Just cables and pulleys.

KingPriest2
01-29-2006, 10:49 PM
That's not going to happen. LJ doesn't have muscles and tendons. Just cables and pulleys.


He is the pepsi machine

chiefsfan1963
01-30-2006, 01:08 AM
LJ is the best RB in the league! Everyone knows it including the media!
Now LJ has to get back out there next year and win the rushing title and break some records! He'll have everyone after him, gameplanniing him every week!!!!!!! The true test will be next year!!!!!!!! He'll need some one backing him up! He can't avg 35 carries/game for the entire season and be injury free. we need him come playoff time. keep him healthy!

cdcox
01-30-2006, 01:24 AM
LJ is the best RB in the league! Everyone knows it including the media!
Now LJ has to get back out there next year and win the rushing title and break some records! He'll have everyone after him, gameplanniing him every week!!!!!!! The true test will be next year!!!!!!!! He'll need some one backing him up! He can't avg 35 carries/game for the entire season and be injury free. we need him come playoff time. keep him healthy!

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