Shields, Stills gone

[The Bad Guy]

Jay Glazer is reporting that Shields and Stills have been cut.

[DJay23]

Knew it was coming but it's still sad to have to dump an icon for business reasons.

[BigMeatballDave]

Shields? Ouch...

[KCTitus]

Dang...that sucks.

[Mr. Laz]

didn't have much choice without a CBA extension


you can expect several more, warfield,bell,barber...

[Fish]

My day just got infinitely more shitty............

[StcChief]

Black Thursday continues....

[Stinger]

Don't like to hear it, I understand it, but still don't like to hear it.

[Marcellus]

I think SHields will be resigned later.

He wants to stay in KC, we just had to dump slary to get under the cap for now. People (Green, Gonzo) will restructure if a new CBA doesn't get done soon.

[recxjake]

Chiefs | Shields to be released
Thu, 2 Mar 2006 10:36:55 -0800

Jay Glazer, of FOXSports.com, reports Kansas City Chiefs OL Will Shields has been informed he will be released.


Chiefs | Stills to be released
Thu, 2 Mar 2006 10:36:38 -0800

Jay Glazer, of FOXSports.com, reports Kansas City Chiefs LB/ST Gary Stills has been informed he will be released.




speechless... the ****ing symbol of chiefs offense line greatness is gone.... i can't believe this... whos gonna replace him?? peter hayer?!

[The Bad Guy]

Chiefs | Shields to be released
Thu, 2 Mar 2006 10:36:55 -0800

Jay Glazer, of FOXSports.com, reports Kansas City Chiefs OL Will Shields has been informed he will be released.


Chiefs | Stills to be released
Thu, 2 Mar 2006 10:36:38 -0800

Jay Glazer, of FOXSports.com, reports Kansas City Chiefs LB/ST Gary Stills has been informed he will be released.




speechless... the ****ing symbol of chiefs offense line greatness is gone.... i can't believe this... whos gonna replace him?? peter hayer?!

Welbourne.

[Wile_E_Coyote]

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/5374588

[chiefqueen]

I think SHields will be resigned later.

He wants to stay in KC, we just had to dump slary to get under the cap for now. People (Green, Gonzo) will restructure if a new CBA doesn't get done soon.

Don't be too sure, Marty drafted him and has a lot of cap space. I'm afraid this is a Donnie Edwards type cut.

[58-4ever]

this really pisses me off. :banghead:

[jspchief]

This is the part of pro sports that really f*cking sucks.

Will Shields is the type of guy that embodies what I want to root for on the field.

[Sure-Oz]

Looks like Rausch will not be on the boards much this year now.

This is bullshit, they better re-sign him.

[58-4ever]

I may try and kill Gene Upshaw

[Phobia]

Don't believe what you read here. Glazer's source is Nick Athen.

[NewChief]

Ouch. That hurts.

[recxjake]

there won't be enough free money in the market combined to sign all this great talent back up.... huge paycuts coming?

[Archie Bunker]

I just hope he doesn't team up with Art Shell. That would rip my heart out.

[The Bad Guy]

Don't be too sure, Marty drafted him and has a lot of cap space. I'm afraid this is a Donnie Edwards type cut.

What does the fact that Marty drafted him have to do with anything?

This isn't even close to the same thing as Donnie. The Chiefs had the cap space back then to sign Donnie, they chose to lowball him.

This is because of the players association and the CBA.

[Inspector]

****!!!

That's all I can think of to say.

[phxchief]

I've said it before, and i'll say it again (as much as it pains me): this is a GOOD move for the team.

$6.3 MILLION DOLLARS is too much for the 2nd best OG (bolded for a reason) on the team.

[OnTheWarpath15]

you can expect several more, warfield,bell,barber...

Don't think anyone's too upset about that group......

Welcome to Hell. Your tour guide's name is Carl.......

[jspchief]

Don't believe what you read here. Glazer's source is Nick Athen.Of course it is.

This new strategy will do wonders for Nick's credibility. He can just take credit for sourcing every accurate story that breaks.

Is coming here to defend him part of your job description?

[The Bad Guy]

Don't think anyone's too upset about that group......

Welcome to Hell. You're tour guide's name is Carl.......

No, it's not.

The guide's name is Gene Upshaw.

[chiefqueen]

What does the fact that Marty drafted him have to do with anything?

This isn't even close to the same thing as Donnie. The Chiefs had the cap space back then to sign Donnie, they chose to lowball him.

This is because of the players association and the CBA.

I was comparing to SD b/c Marty swooped up our leftovers & made us regret it.

[phxchief]

Welcome to Hell. Your tour guide's name is....

....the CBA.

[The Bad Guy]

I was comparing to SD b/c Marty swooped up our leftovers & made us regret it.

1 player who happened to be from San Diego.

I think the fact that Edwards was from SD had far more to do with it than Marty being there.

[Mile High Mania]

Don't believe what you read here. Glazer's source is Nick Athen.

Now, that is good stuff...

[Wile_E_Coyote]

if these things also go in threes, T-Rich will be the Chiefs next Pro-bowler to go

[Phobia]

Of course it is.

This new strategy will do wonders for Nick's credibility. He can just take credit for sourcing every accurate story that breaks.

Is coming here to defend him part of your job description?

Strategy? Glazer is FoxSports. Warpaint is FoxSports. Glazer posts on Warpaint. The Shields cut and Stills cut has been on Warpaint since early this morning.

Here, go make yourself a map (http://www.mapquest.com).

[phxchief]

T-Rich doesn't count against the cap, and as of tommorow, isn't a Chief anyway.

[58-4ever]

man I hope they can get him to come back at a lower cost. 208 straight games. what a warrior and a GREAT human being.

[Cormac]

This is terrible news. I hope he is resigned, and I suspect that that will happen. This part of the business sucks.

[OnTheWarpath15]

No, it's not.

The guide's name is Gene Upshaw.

Upshaw may be to blame, however Carl is still the one who has to make the decisions on who's cut and who stays.

[jspchief]

Strategy? Glazer is FoxSports. Warpaint is FoxSports. Glazer posts on Warpaint. The Shields cut and Stills cut has been on Warpaint since early this morning.

Here, go make yourself a map (http://www.mapquest.com).No really. I believe you.

Tell me more about the greatness of Nick's snake oil.

[The Bad Guy]

Don't believe what you read here. Glazer's source is Nick Athen.

Then Glazer would likely be homeless and out of a job if he relied on that hack for his info.

[KCTitus]

Strategy? Glazer is FoxSports. Warpaint is FoxSports. Glazer posts on Warpaint. The Shields cut and Stills cut has been on Warpaint since early this morning.

Yeah, jsp, and you need to pony up your 100 bucks so you too could have known this 5 hours earlier.

[Wile_E_Coyote]

T-Rich doesn't count against the cap, and as of tommorow, isn't a Chief anyway.

then that just leaves Woods & that would cost

[KCTitus]

Upshaw may be to blame, however Carl is still the one who has to make the decisions on who's cut and who stays.

What a tard...

[The Bad Guy]

Warpaint is foxsports?

That's like saying the small newspaper I write for is the KC Star., My newspaper is owned by a newspaper that's owned by Knight Ridder, who owns the KC Star.

[Saulbadguy]

It's a business.

[jspchief]

Yeah, jsp, and you need to pony up your 100 bucks so you too could have known this 5 hours earlier.Glazer got himself a hell of a scoop for only $89.95

[The Bad Guy]

Upshaw may be to blame, however Carl is still the one who has to make the decisions on who's cut and who stays.

Jesus.

You're right. I'm sure Carl loved telling Joe Linta that Will was being cut.

Get off your ****ing soap box.

[KCTitus]

Glazer got himself a hell of a scoop for only $89.95

Just think YOU could have been the source of this thread if you would have paid up.

The Bad Guy would have then stated:

jspchief of WarPaint, Premium Member, reports that Shields and Stills Cut.

Think of the glory and fame you could have had.

[jspchief]

If the report was that Walt Shields and Gary Stalls had been cut, I'd believe it was Nick's story.

[Wile_E_Coyote]

Shields would want the team to stay competitive(for Trent, Roaf, Casey, ect), I bet his feelings aren't all that hurt

[Saulbadguy]

If the report was that Walt Shields and Gary Stalls had been cut, I'd believe it was Nick's story.
ROFL

If only we would have had Erasumus Jones...

[Sure-Oz]

So do you guys think he will return and can we afford him?

[beavis]

Jesus.

You're right. I'm sure Carl loved telling Joe Linta that Will was being cut.

Get off your ****ing soap box.
Yep. For once, Carl isn't at fault here.

[58-4ever]

Shields would want the team to stay competitive(for Trent, Roaf, Casey, ect), I bet his feelings aren't all that hurt

I'm sure losing a few million bucks wouldn't hurt?

[beavis]

If the report was that Walt Shields and Gary Stalls had been cut, I'd believe it was Nick's story.
ROFL

[sedated]

We were prepared to go into next season without him, anyway.

He is old and his back problems may have had a lot to do with our O-line's slow start (not practicing in training camp).

If we resign him, cool.
If not, we have more pressing needs that could use that cash. And we have a more than capable replacement

[Mr. Laz]

then that just leaves Woods & that would cost
woods won't cut cost ... i believe he would ADD cost


because of his signing bonus cutting woods might add severa hundred thousand dollars to our cap figure.


i've seen conflicting reports of just how much it would cost us.... clayton says 270k ... i've seen as high as 1.7 million IIRC.

[Wile_E_Coyote]

I'm sure losing a few million bucks wouldn't hurt?

he was going to retire last season anyway if Peterson didn't add defense help, or so the story goes

[Phobia]

I don't know why everybody is flipping out. This information is clearly tainted. It got the Athan on it.

[alpha_omega]

Terrible!

[Wile_E_Coyote]

woods won't cut cost ... i believe he would ADD cost


because of his signing bonus cutting woods might add severa hundred thousand dollars to our cap figure.


i've seen conflicting reports of just how much it would cost us.... clayton says 270k ... i've seen as high as 1.7 million IIRC.

& that would cost

[Mr. Laz]

I don't know why everybody is flipping out. This information is clearly tainted. It got the Athan on it.

haven't you basically said this 3 times on this thread already?




dam ... getting another schtick

[Skip Towne]

I don't know why everybody is flipping out. This information is clearly tainted. It got the Athan on it.
Now he's rubbing off on you. You have spelled his name both Athan and Athen in this thread.

[jspchief]

I don't know why everybody is flipping out. This information is clearly tainted. It got the Athan on it.Yea, it's almost as much of a mystery as why you keep trying to defend him on this website.

Sounds like someone chose to lay down with dogs, and now wants to pretend there were no fleas.

[Gonzo]

:shake:
This sucks so much ass. Hey lets kick some more hall of famers off our squad. What the hell.

[58-4ever]

yeah, why is it that evertime there is a breaking Chiefs story there has to be an argument about Nick Athan? Seriously, let's talk about the Chiefs or poop, or how Jesus loves pie. But enough Nick Athan.

[morphius]

McCleon is the one I'm waiting for. Losing Will is tough, but it got to that point in his contract where we had to do this, just no way around it sadly.

[jspchief]

yeah, why is it that evertime there is a breaking Chiefs story there has to be an argument about Nick Athan? Seriously, let's talk about the Chiefs or poop, or how Jesus loves pie. But enough Nick Athan.I don't know about every occasion, but this particular time it was because someone wanted to spam.

[Wile_E_Coyote]

:shake:
This sucks so much ass. Hey lets kick some more hall of famers off our squad. What the hell.

I doubt this will be unique to the Chiefs today

[58-4ever]

McCleon is the one I'm waiting for. Losing Will is tough, but it got to that point in his contract where we had to do this, just no way around it sadly.

I would go to KC to help McPasson clean out his locker.

[BigMeatballDave]

yeah, why is it that evertime there is a breaking Chiefs story there has to be an argument about Nick Athan? Seriously, let's talk about the Chiefs or poop, or how Jesus loves pie. But enough Nick Athan.Does Nick Athen like pie?

[Kclee]

yeah, why is it that evertime there is a breaking Chiefs story there has to be an argument about Nick Athan? Seriously, let's talk about the Chiefs or poop, or how Jesus loves pie. But enough Nick Athan.


Nick Athan told me you'd say that nearly 5 hours ago.

[Mecca]

Would you guys prefer they cut a bunch of younger players that don't save a 3rd of the money cutting Shields does? I understand everyone has a sentimental attachment to Will Shields, but the Chiefs can't keep him at the cost of having to cut 10 players.

[Phobia]

Truthfully the info came from Warpaint but it wasn't actually tainted by Athan. It came from one of our beat reporters. He also says Warfield is gone, which is likely true because it didn't come from Athan.

[KCTitus]

I would go to KC to help McPasson clean out his locker.

Nick Athan already did that yesterday.

[Mr. Laz]

& that would cost
oops!!



yes, i'm a retart :redface:

[Gonzo]

I doubt this will be unique to the Chiefs today
Unfortunately you are probably right. It's a high price to pay for not making the playoffs last year.

Anyone have a bullet for me to chew on???

[Phobia]

yeah, why is it that evertime there is a breaking Chiefs story there has to be an argument about Nick Athan? Seriously, let's talk about the Chiefs or poop, or how Jesus loves pie. But enough Nick Athan.

Sorry, this time is my fault. I get some moderate amusement from it. It's pretty entertaining.

[Mr. Laz]

Seriously, let's talk about the Chiefs or poop, or how Jesus loves pie.

does Jesus eat pie while he poops?

[The Bad Guy]

I don't know why everybody is flipping out. This information is clearly tainted. It got the Athan on it.

You're right, but since Jay Glazer is a respected journalist, who has a grasp on the language and likely can spell check, I'll believe it's real.

[58-4ever]

why don't you ask Athan, I'll bet he knows.

[Mr. Kotter]

Well, maybe we'll be able to resign Shields at a more cap-friendly figure? :shrug:

Lookin' for a silver-lining..... :sulk:

[Gonzo]

does Jesus eat pie while he poops?

If he wanted to I guess.... I just cant picture the good lord sitting on some porcelain eating some dutch apple.

[Wile_E_Coyote]

Unfortunately you are probably right. It's a high price to pay for not making the playoffs last year.

Anyone have a bullet for me to chew on???

It happened with coaching changes, which is usually when the old guard(eek) is let go. Some of this was going to happen anyway

[OnTheWarpath15]

speechless... the ****ing symbol of chiefs offense line greatness is gone.... i can't believe this... whos gonna replace him?? peter hayer?!

Welbourne will move over, the problem lies in replacing Welbourne at RT. Can't afford to sign a FA, so get used to seeing Black/Sampson over there getting whipped.

Sad day.

[Mr. Kotter]

If he wanted to I guess.... I just cant picture the good lord sitting on some porcelain eating some dutch apple.

I'm not Jesus, but I ate some Pecan pie while taking a dump at the Holiday Inn Express last night....:shrug:

[dirk digler]

Damn sad news. I fuggin hate Upshaw. If Tags can't get the CBA done this will ruin his legacy.

[ct]

Sucks, but that is life in the NFL these days, and they are changing fast. Still hold out hope that we resign Shields, but we'll see.

[The Bad Guy]

Truthfully the info came from Warpaint but it wasn't actually tainted by Athan. It came from one of our beat reporters. He also says Warfield is gone, which is likely true because it didn't come from Athan.

I don't believe a national journalist would rely on a ragtag magazine as their primary source.

Especially, one with a track record of WPI.

I'm sure Glazer has multiple sources.

[Sure-Oz]

ATHAN ahh ski ski!

[jspchief]

I don't believe a national journalist would rely on a ragtag magazine as their primary source.

Especially, one with a track record of WPI.

I'm sure Glazer has multiple sources.Ragtag? That was months ago. I guess you haven't heard. They are credible now. Someone (who has nothing to gain) has told me so several times.

[chiefqueen]

Has any legitimate news source actually reported Shields has been cut?

[Mr. Laz]

Welbourne will move over, the problem lies in replacing Welbourne at RT. Can't afford to sign a FA, so get used to seeing Black/Sampson over there getting whipped.

Sad day.

i doubt welbourn moves over ... i think they just put black at RG.


unless Sampson finally shows up :shrug:


roaf,waters,wiegmann,black,welbourn


if sampson finally lives up to the hype


roaf,water,wiegmann,welbourn,sampson

[Donger]

In early December of 2005, I left all my friends at ChiefsPlanet to manage the forums at Warpaint Illustrated and to write a column from a fan's perspective

Two men enter! One man leaves!

[Gonzo]

i doubt welbourn moves over ... i think they just put black at RG.


unless Sampson finally shows up :shrug:


roaf,waters,wiegmann,black,welbourn


if sampson finally lives up to the hype


roaf,water,wiegmann,welbourn,sampson

A far cry from Alt, Shields, Grunhard, Szott.

[OnTheWarpath15]

i doubt welbourn moves over ... i think they just put black at RG.

unless Sampson finally shows up

roaf,waters,wiegmann,black,welbourn

if sampson finally lives up to the hype

roaf,water,wiegmann,welbourn,sampson

Neither is a great option, IMO.

If it were your decision, provided Sampson is able, what do you do?

[Mr. Laz]

A far cry from Alt, Shields, Grunhard, Szott.

and yet still one of the best in the league


grunhard was overrated ... he was carried by the guards on either side imo .

[RedThat]

I understand why people on this board are pissed off because of Will Shields being cut.

Most people LOVE the guy, and count me in as one of them. I loved what Will did for this organization. I think I can stand proud and say, he is one of the fewest Chiefs I've seen in my time that provided this organization with so much loyalty, and wore his heart on his sleave during his time here. He established great relationships with the organization and the fans. Will is a great guy, and I too am hurt by this move.

However, there is a flip side to the coin. And that is business. He is cut primarily for business purposes and for the beneficial sake of the team.
In all honesty, I know A LOT of you are pissed off, but really, I have to say, this is a good move for this organization. And I am not speaking directly from a business standpoint.

I would like to provide common logic, so all emotions aside. We have to think team. I've stressed this earlier in previous threads, Will Shields is a great guard, he defined the position, but, if cutting him enables us to utilize and balance our dollars and cents more to benefit the team, then by all means, Im in support of this move. If cutting Will Shields gets us under the cap, and enables us to pursue a defensive lineman, then by all means that IS more important than having him here. In easier terms what Im saying is, you have 3 SOLID GUARDS in Welbourn, Shields, and Black. All combined make 7-8 million.

So let me ask you guys a question, would you rather see this team keep a 36 year old guard whose been hampered with injuries knowing his play is on the decline, and is going to demand a high salary?

Or, cut Will because you have 2 solid guards behind him that are capable starters, and by letting his salary loose you can get under the cap and pick up a GOOD defensive player?

So, what would you guys rather do? I'll reiterate, Keep him and prevent us from getting a GOOD defensive player?

Or, let him loose? Get under the cap, and pick up a GOOD defensive player?

[Phobia]

Ragtag? That was months ago. I guess you haven't heard. They are credible now. Someone (who has nothing to gain) has told me so several times.

At least be accurate.

I have nothing to gain from the magazine - or the calendar. The website is my baby and the mag is Nick's.

It's in my nature to defend people. I don't know why. I'll defend anybody until they burn the bridge. I defended Tom Cash at one time. I used to say JD was misunderstood. Think back. I've defended Chiefsfolife and virtually everybody else who has ever been the subject of massive ridicule. That includes Frank, Jeff, and Gregg. That's who I am. Naturally, I have a stake in Warpaint now but I've never been one to lie.

[Mr. Laz]

Neither is a great option, IMO.

If it were your decision, provided Sampson is able, what do you do?

depends on how "able" sampson is


you put your best olinemen on the field



i think i prefer to just leave Welbourn out tackle ... he did pretty good in the 2nd half of the season last year.

that way we only have to make 1 move ... i definitely don't want Black at tackle.

[KCTitus]

At least be accurate.

I have nothing to gain from the magazine - or the calendar. The website is my baby and the mag is Nick's.

It's in my nature to defend people. I don't know why. I'll defend anybody until they burn the bridge. I defended Tom Cash at one time. I used to say JD was misunderstood. Think back. I've defended Chiefsfolife and virtually everybody else who has ever been the subject of massive ridicule. That includes Frank, Jeff, and Gregg. That's who I am. Naturally, I have a stake in Warpaint now but I've never been one to lie.

Except in this case and yesterday, no one said anything about you or Athan, and you had to inject it into the thread. Talk about beginning to burn bridges, you've started a nice fire as far as Im concerned.

[jspchief]

At least be accurate.
Irony.

[OnTheWarpath15]

i definitely don't want Black at tackle.

:clap:

[ct]

I understand why people on this board are pissed off because of Will Shields being cut.

Most people LOVE the guy, and count me in as one of them. I loved what Will did for this organization. I think I can stand proud and say, he is one of the fewest Chiefs I've seen in my time that provided this organization with so much loyalty, and wore his heart on his sleave during his time here. He established great relationships with the organization and the fans. Will is a great guy, and I too am hurt by this move.

However, there is a flip side to the coin. And that is business. He is cut primarily for business purposes and for the beneficial sake of the team.
In all honesty, I know A LOT of you are pissed off, but really, I have to say, this is a good move for this organization. And I am not speaking directly from a business standpoint.

I would like to provide common logic, so all emotions aside. We have to think team. I've stressed this earlier in previous threads, Will Shields is a great guard, he defined the position, but, if cutting him enables us to utilize and balance our dollars and cents more to benefit the team, then by all means, Im in support of this move. If cutting Will Shields gets us under the cap, and enables us to pursue a defensive lineman, then by all means that IS more important than having him here. In easier terms what Im saying is, you have 3 SOLID GUARDS in Welbourn, Shields, and Black. All combined make 7-8 million.

So let me ask you guys a question, would you rather see this team keep a 36 year old guard whose been hampered with injuries knowing his play is on the decline, and is going to demand a high salary?

Or, cut Will because you have 2 solid guards behind him that are capable starters, and by letting his salary loose you can get under the cap and pick up a GOOD defensive player?

So, what would you guys rather do? I'll reiterate, Keep him and prevent us from getting a GOOD defensive player?

Or, let him loose? Get under the cap, and pick up a GOOD defensive player?

:clap:

I choose TEAM, getting under the cap, and potentially clearing some cap $ for a defensive FA. But frankly, the 1st 2 are worth it, and likely all we're gonna get.

[patteeu]

I think SHields will be resigned later.

He wants to stay in KC, we just had to dump slary to get under the cap for now. People (Green, Gonzo) will restructure if a new CBA doesn't get done soon.

That's my take too, unless this is a calculated move by Shields to force the Chiefs to cut him instead of retiring for financial reasons. In any event, I don't think Shields will play elsewhere this season. It will be the Chiefs or the end of the line for him. IMO.

[ct]

That's my take too.

mine 3

[OnTheWarpath15]

Or, let him loose? Get under the cap, and pick up a GOOD defensive player?

It may be a struggle to just get under the cap. Signing FA's may be out of the question.

I think it was an ESPN article that said some teams are fearful of not having the space to sign draft picks, much less FA's

[Phobia]

Except in this case and yesterday, no one said anything about you or Athan, and you had to inject it into the thread. Talk about beginning to burn bridges, you've started a nice fire as far as Im concerned.

Oh, it's funny for everybody else to make the Athan joke but I can't because I'm affiliated with him?

It's okay for everybody else to point out when Nick's information crashes and burns, but when it's correct nobody is allowed to say so lest they "start a nice fire".

I see how it is.

[Phobia]

Helluva nice post, Redbull.

[KCTitus]

Oh, it's funny for everybody else to make the Athan joke but I can't because I'm affiliated with him?

It's okay for everybody else to point out when Nick's information crashes and burns, but when it's correct nobody is allowed to say so lest they "start a nice fire".

I see how it is.

Excuse me, NO WHERE in this thread did Athan's name come up until YOU brought it here. Dont be a jackass.

And yes, you are not allowed to bring it up because of your 'vested' interest in Nick's project.

At this point, I consider your posts on the subject nothing other than spamming for that site and Im almost ready to begin asking the mods to act on it.

[Fire Me Boy!]

There's a very good chance he's re-signed... Peterson has said he wants Shields to retire in KC. Shields and his agent have said he wants to stay in KC.

I'll put money down now that he's re-signed.

[Mr. Kotter]

There's a very good chance he's re-signed... Peterson has said he wants Shields to retire in KC. Shields and his agent have said he wants to stay in KC.

I'll put money down now that he's re-signed.

That's my take (hope?), as well.

[KCTitus]

That's my take (hope?), as well.

Kind of like what NE did with Troy Brown. I'd like to see that happen.

[OnTheWarpath15]

I'll put money down now that he's re-signed.

I hope you're right.

Maybe a pool over in CasinoPlanet is in order....... :hmmm:

[Mr. Kotter]

You know guys, there's dumbassery....but then there's just being a dumb ass.

Some of you guys are becoming real dumb asses about this whole WPI thing, IMHO. :shake:

Yeah, yeah....I ought to know.... :rolleyes:

[Phobia]

Excuse me, NO WHERE in this thread did Athan's name come up until YOU brought it here. Dont be a jackass.

And yes, you are not allowed to bring it up because of your 'vested' interest in Nick's project.

At this point, I consider your posts on the subject nothing other than spamming for that site and Im almost ready to begin asking the mods to act on it.

And why wouldn't I bring it up if Warpaint is sourcing Glazer on his scoop? You should absolutely complain to the mods because at least they can keep an open mind on anything having something to do with Athan. When some of you hear the name, your eyes glaze over and you start shooting bullets.

I'll certainly respect the mods' wishes on this matter.

[58-4ever]

You know guys, there's dumbassery....but then there's just being a dumb ass.

Some of you guys are becoming real dumb asses about this whole WPI thing, IMHO. :shake:

Yeah, yeah....I ought to know.... :rolleyes:

that was my point about 20 posts ago

[ct]

Excuse me, NO WHERE in this thread did Athan's name come up until YOU brought it here. Dont be a jackass.

And yes, you are not allowed to bring it up because of your 'vested' interest in Nick's project.

At this point, I consider your posts on the subject nothing other than spamming for that site and Im almost ready to begin asking the mods to act on it.

And why wouldn't I bring it up if Warpaint is sourcing Glazer on his scoop? You should absolutely complain to the mods because at least they can keep an open mind on anything having something to do with Athan. When some of you hear the name, your eyes glaze over and you start shooting bullets.

I'll certainly respect the mods' wishes on this matter.


FUK off, both of you. Seriously. Take it to the romper room.

[jspchief]

And why wouldn't I bring it up if Warpaint is sourcing Glazer on his scoop? How about because no one gives a shit about Glazer's source because he's a respected journalist. And because it comes off as self-serving pimping of a competing site.

Athan will always be an easy joke, and this place thrives off easy jokes. You coming in here to defend him comes off as self serving.

[Iowanian]

Phobia's right...its a lock that Shields will be Saunder's Online coach at Detoit.

[Wile_E_Coyote]

Helluva nice post, Redbull.

his posts are usually 4 or 5 paragraphs so I skip 'em :shrug:

[Rausch]

There's a very good chance he's re-signed... Peterson has said he wants Shields to retire in KC. Shields and his agent have said he wants to stay in KC.

I'll put money down now that he's re-signed.

I sure as hell hope so.

:shake:

[KCTitus]

The Internet sure brings out the crybaby in people.

I agree...Phobia's acting like a total puss.

[Phobia]

I agree...Phobia's acting like a total puss.

I challenge you to a drinking contest. We'll see who the puss is.

[KCTitus]

I challenge you to a drinking contest. We'll see who the puss is.

LOL...

[tk13]

Sad day for sure. Hopefully we can find a way to re-sign him. I certainly understand why it had to be done, Will's a great guy to root for though. Man of the Year, etc, etc.

He's old and beat up, but the comment earlier in the thread about him being injured or whatever... the guy has never missed a game due to injury in 12 years! That is beyond incredible. The guy may be THE absolute #1 model of consistent play in the NFL over the last decade. I don't think last year was his best year, but it's not like he was a revolving door. 90% of Will Shields is better than most right guards who have ever played the game.

[Dave Lane]

Welbourne.

Actually Jordan Black did well when he played guard. He's just not a LT

Dave

[chiefqueen]

It's 3:00 and I'm still waiting to hear he's been cut from a reliable source.

[Phobia]

According to Shields' agent, he's going to resign with the Chiefs or retire.

[Phobia]

It's 3:00 and I'm still waiting to hear he's been cut from a reliable source.

610 sports, fox sports?

Who is reliable in your opinion?

[ct]

610 sports, fox sports?

Who is reliable in your opinion?

Nick Athan of course. :)

[jspchief]

It's 3:00 and I'm still waiting to hear he's been cut from a reliable source.
Here's the most reliable source I can think of, and there's no mention of Shields.

http://www.kcchiefs.com/news/2006/03/02/chiefs_terminate_contracts_of_barber_mccleon_stills_and_warfield_1/

[OnTheWarpath15]

Here's the most reliable source I can think of, and there's no mention of Shields.

Hmmmmm. Very interesting.

Still 6 1/2 hours to go......(they moved to 10pm, right?)

[KCTitus]

Hmmmmm. Very interesting.

Still 6 1/2 hours to go......(they moved to 10pm, right?)

They did? I thought it was 4pm EST...

[jspchief]

They did? I thought it was 4pm EST...They extended it to 10pm eastern.

[OnTheWarpath15]

10 p.m. EST.....

Look under the pic of Pennington on ESPN's front page.

[go bo]

And why wouldn't I bring it up if Warpaint is sourcing Glazer on his scoop? You should absolutely complain to the mods because at least they can keep an open mind on anything having something to do with Athan. When some of you hear the name, your eyes glaze over and you start shooting bullets.

I'll certainly respect the mods' wishes on this matter.you mean there's mods around here? :eek: :eek: :eek:

[ct]

So, obviously something still in the works with Shields, and that's good news. Half the cap savings with retaining Will is much preferable to the full savings and risk losing him in FA, fo sho!!

[Ultra Peanut]

This is quite a cluster****.

Be sure to make a movie every dozen or so shots.
http://ytmndelt.ytmnd.com

[PastorMikH]

Just now getting on for the day and this is the first thread I opened, let me get this straight, we talk Shields into coming back and NOT retiring then CUT him????

[go bo]

is that on an endless loop or something?

i kept waiting for it to end... :shrug:

[ct]

Just now getting on for the day and this is the first thread I opened, let me get this straight, we talk Shields into coming back and NOT retiring then CUT him????

At this point, it's anybody's guess as to wth is goin on.


Shields' agent yesterday says Will wants to play 2 more years.

FoxSports (Jay Glazier) reported earlier today that Shields and Stills were informed they were going to be released.

KC Chiefs.com now has posted that Warfield, Stills, Barber, McCleon have been released, but no mention of Shields.

ESPN.com reports the same as kcchiefs.com, but goes on to say more vets are in renegotiations, but more cuts could come, listing some names that included Shields.

:shrug:

[go bo]

Just now getting on for the day and this is the first thread I opened, let me get this straight, we talk Shields into coming back and NOT retiring then CUT him????there's been no confirmation that shield's been cut, just stills, mcpasson and warfield...

[phxchief]

And Barber.

[htismaqe]

According to Shields' agent, he's going to resign with the Chiefs or retire.

Good.

I kinda wondered if this wasn't one of those deals where the team and he had an understanding that the cut was just a formality, giving them the time to do a new deal...

[htismaqe]

you mean there's mods around here? :eek: :eek: :eek:

There is now. I added you to the admin group.

[RINGLEADER]

in my best Del Toro from Usual Suspects voice:

"MUTHAFUC*ACOC*SUCKAS!!!"

[JBucc]

And Barber.NOOOOOOOOOOOOo not BArber!!!

[PastorMikH]

There is now. I added you to the admin group.



GoBo is an Admin now? That's cool, I'll start sending all of my complaints to him now instead of you.:D

[KCTitus]

I just heard on the radio they extended the deadline 3 days.

[ct]

wha? what is this radio thing you speak of?

[Logical]

There is now. I added you to the admin group.

No doubt you are just joking, but I can think of no one around that would be a better candidate for moderator status. (Some of you others don't get your panties in a bunch you might be just as good a candidate, just not better)

[Logical]

I just heard on the radio they extended the deadline 3 days.

Which deadline, the cap deadline or the negotiations deadline for the CBA?

[JBucc]

No doubt you are just joking, but I can think of no one around that would be a better candidate for moderator status. (Some of you others don't get your panties in a bunch you might be just as good a candidate, just not better)I am without a doubt the best candidate for moderation powers. And no worrys about my undergarments, for I am wearing none.

[Ultra Peanut]

No doubt you are just joking, but I can think of no one around that would be a better candidate for moderator status.Agreed.

[KCTitus]

Which deadline, the cap deadline or the negotiations deadline for the CBA?

Cap deadline.

[Mecca]

They pushed Free Agency back 3 days, It looks like CBA negotiations are going to happen again. Maybe something will get done.....

[jidar]

If the report was that Walt Shields and Gary Stalls had been cut, I'd believe it was Nick's story.

ROFL

[chiefs4me]

Un****ing real........if they cut shileds they deserve whatever they get, 13 years, 11 straight pro bowls....good freaking god, what has happened to my chiefs......:banghead::deevee::cuss:

[ct]

Un****ing real........if they cut shileds they deserve whatever they get, 13 years, 11 straight pro bowls....good freaking god, what has happened to my chiefs......:banghead::deevee::cuss:

You got some catching up to do today, don't ya?

[Phobia]

Good.

I kinda wondered if this wasn't one of those deals where the team and he had an understanding that the cut was just a formality, giving them the time to do a new deal...

There's actually an updated quote from Shield's agent on that - mine was paraphrased and seems to be contrary to the actual quote.

"Will Shields will play this year, hopefully with the Chiefs but certainly with someone,”

Naturally that's probably more chest puffing for the benefit of Carl.

Additionally, the 3 day extension will probably render this action moot.

[chiefs4me]

You got some catching up to do today, don't ya?





No.......I have been to several sports sites and I am reading about this on all of them, I only hope it doesn't happen or he takes a cut in pay.....

[The Bad Guy]

Shields was on Sirius and said he hasn't been officially told he was being cut.

So if Scoop Athan really informed Glazer of this, no wonder it's possibly wrong.

Shields also said that he knows football and would have no problem picking up another system.

[Phobia]

Shields was on Sirius and said he hasn't been officially told he was being cut.

So if Scoop Athan really informed Glazer of this, no wonder it's possibly wrong.

Shields also said that he knows football and would have no problem picking up another system.

I tried to warn everybody. Nobody listens to me.

[chiefs4me]

I tried to warn everybody. Nobody listens to me.






I do.....:D

[The Bad Guy]

I tried to warn everybody. Nobody listens to me.

Well, chalk this up to one of the few times a member of WPI has been right then.

[Phobia]

Most of the "official" cuts that may have been reported throughout the day may not be official at all. The extension of the deadline has jacked everything up.

Frank, if you didn't have a history with Nick you would see where he's been out in front most of the day. He may have been a screwup when you guys worked together - I'm not qualified to speculate on that - I wasn't there. I am qualified to comment on what I've seen in the past few months. He's hitting frequently and he's getting the news first. That's a fact.

[Pants]

ATHAN ahh ski ski!

Skeet, skeet, skeet for ****s sake.