The Cut Thread

[DMAC]

Post 'em as you see 'em. We are still over right?

[dj56dt58]

as far as i know

[JBucc]

How much time do we have?

[DMAC]

How much time do we have?
from what i have read, and hour and 15 minutes

[Braincase]

How many of them will be teams Union Stewards?

[Bill Lundberg]

NFL | League delays waiver deadline
Sun, 5 Mar 2006 18:26:47 -0800

ESPNews reports the NFL has extended the waiver deadline to 11:30 p.m. ET Sunday, March 5.

[DMAC]

NFL | League delays waiver deadline
Sun, 5 Mar 2006 18:26:47 -0800

ESPNews reports the NFL has extended the waiver deadline to 11:30 p.m. ET Sunday, March 5.
so we got a little over an hour

[teedubya]

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[CoMoChief]

That only leaves a couple hours for Bartee to be on the team right?

[DMAC]

That only leaves a couple hours for Bartee to be on the team right?
cross your fingers!!

[Dunit35]

Jerome Woods, Welbourne and Shields are on the "real good chance to get cut" list.

[booger]

Mort on Espn news. Shields likely to get cut.

Clayton on Espn news. Shields is possibble to get cut along with Jerome Woods and John Welbourn.

JC said Priest has restructured and took a pay cut.

[VonneMarie]

I thought we were restructuring Shields contract?

[cdcox]

So Athan was right all along?

[booger]

I thought we were restructuring Shields contract?

Mort mentioned teams like KC working very hard the last week restructuring contracts. He seemed to think Shields was a possible cut. Clayton actually had a list of 25-30 players and mentioned Shields Woods and Welbourn and talked of Priest's paycut.

Have to wait and see I guess.

[dj56dt58]

So Athan was right all along?
did hell just freeze over?

[Dunit35]

I thought we were restructuring Shields contract?


I hope they are restructuring it. Maybe (hopefully) it just hasn't been reported yet. Restructuring Greens contract would've helped out.

[Mile High Mania]

Maybe Shields will go to Denver... he should call Neil.

[VonneMarie]

Mort mentioned teams like KC working very hard the last week restructuring contracts. He seemed to think Shields was a possible cut. Clayton actually had a list of 25-30 players and mentioned Shields Woods and Welbourn and talked of Priest's paycut.

Have to wait and see I guess.
They need to work harder with Shields. I can't even fathom the thought of him with another team.

[VonneMarie]

I hope they are restructuring it. Maybe (hopefully) it just hasn't been reported yet. Restructuring Greens contract would've helped out.
Green did restructure or atleast agreed to it.

[Dunit35]

They need to work harder with Shields. I can't even fathom the thought of him with another team.


Either can I. CP must not want Shields here anymore or else he would restructure his contract. Maybe CP thinks Shields will resign for cheap.

[Bwana]

Maybe Shields will go to Denver... he should call Neil.

:)



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[Dunit35]

Green did restructure or atleast agreed to it.


Isn't there an article on here that said he offered to restructure but CP turned him down?

[Mile High Mania]

Let's call it even ... we'll take Shields, you guys can sign Pryce.

[chubychecker]

I LOVE Shields, but I think it is odd that one minute when he feels like he has the chiefs in the palm of his hand he is unsure whether he will return next year; then when he hears he may be cut, he will play for sure next year. Maybe he took the Chiefs for granted a little. If we choose not to retain him I think Carl will find that he really has taken Will for granted. He is still among the best in the game when in shape and healthy, great lockerroom leader and great in the community.

[booger]

They need to work harder with Shields. I can't even fathom the thought of him with another team.


Even if they cut him, I imagine they will do everything they can to make sure he finishes his career in KC.

I really don't see him wanting to leave either.

JMO.

[Chief Pote]

Let's call it even ... we'll take Shields, you guys can sign Pryce.


Hey I have a technical question Planet....how can I put that ^^****er^^ on ignore? Damn that would be an all time ****in if Shields is cut and he goes to any team in the west.

[listopencil]

Let's call it even ... we'll take Shields, you guys can sign Pryce.

Hell yes!

[VonneMarie]

Even if they cut him, I imagine they will do everything they can to make sure he finishes his career in KC.

I really don't see him wanting to leave either.

JMO.
I get the feeling if he's cut, he won't be back.

[listopencil]

Hey I have a technical question Planet....how can I put that ^^****er^^ on ignore? Damn that would be an all time ****in if Shields is cut and he goes to any team in the west.

You can put him or I on "Ignore" by clicking on the red "Profile" link at the bottom of either of our posts. It will lead you to either of our profiles where there is a link at the bottom of each page,"Add (user) To Your Ignore List". Knock yourself out.

[booger]

I get the feeling if he's cut, he won't be back.

Well from reading the article the other day i get this:

His agent said he will definatly play in '06 and maybe '07. His agent also said Will might have to make a tough descision on working out a more cap friendly contract to stay.

Will seems irked that he can't just play under the contract he signed. IMO he would probably take it personally if we have to cut him.

CP says when his current deal was signed, the last year didn't mean anything and Will and his agent knew it would have to be redone because of the big cap #.

I don't expect him to publically admit it but I believe finishing his career in KC is very important to him and his family. KC is their home and they have business and many charitable interests here. I don't think he would want to potentially mess with any of that.

Hell, maybe he gets frustrated and says the hell with it and calls it quits? Who knows. Should be interesting.

[DMAC]

40 minutes...

[Coach]

I hope Hicks get his ass cut.

[cdcox]

Given that we are going to be so cap-strapped that we won't be able to sign even average players to replace the people we cut, I'm not hoping anyone gets cut.

I'm thinking the Chiefs could be pretty crappy next year.

[DMAC]

I hope Hicks get his ass cut.
remember, we have to be able to afford a replacement.

[Coach]

remember, we have to be able to afford a replacement.

We got one. Kendrell Bell is most likely moving to the DE spot maybe. Or there's Wilkerson as well.

[CoMoChief]

Mort mentioned teams like KC working very hard the last week restructuring contracts. He seemed to think Shields was a possible cut. Clayton actually had a list of 25-30 players and mentioned Shields Woods and Welbourn and talked of Priest's paycut.

Have to wait and see I guess.



Well then I would almost for certain use our 2nd round pick on the best OT in the draft at that point. Losing Welbourn and Shields is gonna hurt.........bad.

[brent102fire]

Seahawks | Team agrees on eight-year deal with Alexander
Sun, 5 Mar 2006 19:44:37 -0800

Jay Glazer, of FOXSports.com, reports the Seattle Seahawks have agreed to terms on an eight-year contract with RB Shaun Alexander. The deal is reportedly worth $62 million and includes in excess a total of $15 million in bonuses and salary the first year. It is not known how the deal is structured with regards to how much cap space the deal takes up in the first year of the contract. Alexander was eligible to become an unrestricted free agent March 6.

[dj56dt58]

remember, we have to be able to afford a replacement.
or draft one

[Coach]

Seahawks | Team agrees on eight-year deal with Alexander
Sun, 5 Mar 2006 19:44:37 -0800

Jay Glazer, of FOXSports.com, reports the Seattle Seahawks have agreed to terms on an eight-year contract with RB Shaun Alexander. The deal is reportedly worth $62 million and includes in excess a total of $15 million in bonuses and salary the first year. It is not known how the deal is structured with regards to how much cap space the deal takes up in the first year of the contract. Alexander was eligible to become an unrestricted free agent March 6.

Holy smokes. A 8 year deal?

[brent102fire]

Packers | Team agrees on one-year deal with A. Green
Sun, 5 Mar 2006 19:07:03 -0800

Jay Glazer, of FOXSports.com, reports the Green Bay Packers have agreed on a new one-year deal with RB Ahman Green, according to sources close to Green. Financial terms of the deal were not disclosed.

[JBucc]

Holy smokes. A 8 year deal?It's not like they have to pay him all eight years. Especially if there's a lockout.

[Coach]

It's not like they have to pay him all eight years. Especially if there's a lockout.

True that.

[Reaper16]

We can't cut two starting O-Linemen. That's suicide.

[Bowser]

The axe falls on Kerry Collins.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2355736

[DMAC]

It's not like they have to pay him all eight years. Especially if there's a lockout.
He will play 3

[Bowser]

And Chad Pennington will NOT be coming to KC. Thank the powers that be.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2355638

[listopencil]

The axe falls on Kerry Collins.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2355736


That's too bad. Maybe the Chargers will pick him up.

[DMAC]

The axe falls on Kerry Collins.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2355736
and the parades start in oakland, thats the equivilent of us axing Grbac

[booger]

Free Agency pushed back 72 hrs to Midnight Wednesday night-Thursday AM.

[booger]

per espn news

[KChiefsQT]

Free Agency pushed back 72 hrs to Midnight Wednesday night-Thursday AM.
not funny.

[Coach]

Free Agency pushed back 72 hrs to Midnight Wednesday night-Thursday AM.

Seriously?

[KChiefsQT]

Seriously?
he's bullshittin... 19 minutes.

[booger]

Yes. Breaking news from ESPN news.

[KChiefsQT]

Yes. Breaking news from ESPN news.
riiiiiiiiight.

[booger]

he's bullshittin... 19 minutes.
No internet link now. Not yet. ESPNNEWS.

Check WPI if you want. They heard it live too.

I woulnd't BS about this.

[VonneMarie]

NFL | Free agency pushed back again
Sun, 5 Mar 2006 20:09:40 -0800

ESPNews reports the start of free agency has been pushed back one more time. This time, it has been moved to Thursday, March 9, and will begin at 12:01 a.m. EST.

:banghead:

[Stinger]

NFL | Free agency pushed back again
Sun, 5 Mar 2006 20:09:40 -0800

ESPNews reports the start of free agency has been pushed back one more time. This time, it has been moved to Thursday, March 9, and will begin at 12:01 a.m. EST.

http://www.kffl.com/hotw/nfl

[chefsos]

Jay Glazer says 12:01AM Thursday, too. There's a owners' meeting in the interim. Tuesday, I believe.

[DMAC]

NFL | Free agency pushed back again
Sun, 5 Mar 2006 20:09:40 -0800

ESPNews reports the start of free agency has been pushed back one more time. This time, it has been moved to Thursday, March 9, and will begin at 12:01 a.m. EST.

:banghead:
so talks can resume?

[Coach]

Well, I'll be damned.

[KChiefsQT]

Unreal. My apologies Booger. :cuss: :cuss: :cuss: :cuss: :cuss:

[VonneMarie]

so talks can resume?
Dosen't say.

[KChiefsQT]

FWIW...
Buccaneers | Team restructures Wade's contract
Sun, 5 Mar 2006 20:07:50 -0800

Buccaneers.com reports the Tampa Bay Buccaneers have restructured the contract of OC John Wade to gain needed salary cap relief.

[booger]

Unreal. My apologies Booger. :cuss: :cuss: :cuss: :cuss: :cuss:
:thumb:

Sounds like No talks are scheduled between NFLPA and the League.

Owners will have meeting and vot on current NFLPA proposal on Tuesday possibly into Wednesday per Mortenson Espnnews.

[Reaper16]

OMG, this is excrutiating! ROFL

[DMAC]

And it will happen again Wednesday night, we are probly going to be doing this til draft day folks

[tk13]

Well I wonder what's going to happen to all the cuts from tonight.

And people on here bash on other sports. This is turning into a huge joke. I think it's time to go or get off the pot. We can deal with the uncapped year later. At this point we're going to have the draft before free agency.

[VonneMarie]

Add Issac Bruce to the list.

NFL | Tagliabue to take latest proposal to league owners
Sun, 5 Mar 2006 20:18:34 -0800

ESPN's Chris Mortensen reports there will not be any further talks between the NFL Players Association and the NFL. However, NFL Commissioner Paul Tagliabue has agreed to take the latest proposal from the NFL Players Association and present it to the owners. It is believed the NFL owners will meet and vote on the proposal Tuesday, March 7.


Rams | Team cuts Bruce
Sun, 5 Mar 2006 20:15:52 -0800

Jim Thomas, of the St. Louis Post-Dispatch, reports the St. Louis Rams were unable to reach a new contract with WR Isaac Bruce and they released him.

[cdcox]

Add Issac Bruce to the list.

NFL | Tagliabue to take latest proposal to league owners
Sun, 5 Mar 2006 20:18:34 -0800

ESPN's Chris Mortensen reports there will not be any further talks between the NFL Players Association and the NFL. However, NFL Commissioner Paul Tagliabue has agreed to take the latest proposal from the NFL Players Association and present it to the owners. It is believed the NFL owners will meet and vote on the proposal Tuesday, March 7.




I'd say the chances of the owners passing the NFLPA proposal are zero. This is just a delaying tactic by the owners to buy some time before free agency starts. I expect they'll find a way to get both sides to the table before Wednesday. Not that I think a deal will get done.

[VonneMarie]

Not so fast.

Rams | Bruce may stick after all
Sun, 5 Mar 2006 20:35:19 -0800

ESPN's John Clayton reports the St. Louis Rams may not release WR Isaac Bruce after all due to the recent extension of the waiver deadline. Bruce was a cap casualty under the previous deadline, but the Rams may choose to remove his name from that list and continue to use the extra time to work out a new contract with him.

[Coach]

Not so fast.

Rams | Bruce may stick after all
Sun, 5 Mar 2006 20:35:19 -0800

ESPN's John Clayton reports the St. Louis Rams may not release WR Isaac Bruce after all due to the recent extension of the waiver deadline. Bruce was a cap casualty under the previous deadline, but the Rams may choose to remove his name from that list and continue to use the extra time to work out a new contract with him.

Yeah, I was thinking "Ok, it seems if the Rams didn't submit the paperwork to the NFL office, then it isn't official. What isn't known yet is what has been submitted & what hasn't been.

Stay tuned for another episode of "As the NFL turns."

[listopencil]

Not so fast.

Rams | Bruce may stick after all
Sun, 5 Mar 2006 20:35:19 -0800

ESPN's John Clayton reports the St. Louis Rams may not release WR Isaac Bruce after all due to the recent extension of the waiver deadline. Bruce was a cap casualty under the previous deadline, but the Rams may choose to remove his name from that list and continue to use the extra time to work out a new contract with him.



Does that mean I can go back and screw the living hell out of that girl in High School that I never had the chance to hook up with?

[Coach]

Does that mean I can go back and screw the living hell out of that girl in High School that I never had the chance to hook up with?

:shake:

:shrug:

[SBK]

Does that mean I can go back and screw the living hell out of that girl in High School that I never had the chance to hook up with?

She's probably fat and ugly by now, so go ahead.

[Coach]

The axe falls on Kerry Collins.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2355736

Not so fast. Since the CBA deadline have been extended, as well as the FA, here's the lastest news.

Raiders avoid cutting Collins with CBA extension
Associated Press

ALAMEDA, Calif. -- The Oakland Raiders had all but parted ways with Kerry Collins on Sunday night until the NFL bought them some time to reconsider the quarterback's future with the club.

The league and union surprisingly agreed to postpone free agency until Thursday to give owners a chance to consider the union's latest proposal during a meeting Tuesday in Dallas. Talks broke off earlier in the day, leaving veterans such as Collins in danger of becoming salary-cap casualties before midnight Monday, when free agency was supposed to begin.


Without Collins, the Raiders would save $9.2 million against the salary cap once bonuses are factored into the figures.


The Raiders thought they would be forced to let Collins go after the NFL and its union broke off talks earlier in the day, failing to agree upon an elevated cap number that would have allowed teams to keep certain high-priced veterans.


The team had been waiting for word on negotiations before making a final decision on Collins' future with the organization.


The 33-year-old Collins had a 7-21 record in two years as Oakland's starter and said at the end of the season he was willing to restructure his deal but would not play for "peanuts."


New coach Art Shell said when he was hired last month that he believed Collins could be a "great" quarterback for the Raiders, but the team still had to figure out what it would do with him.


The Raiders already made moves this offseason to reduce their payroll for next season. They released defensive lineman Ted Washington, offensive lineman Ron Stone and defensive back Denard Walker last week. They also declined a $10 million option for 2006 for safety Derrick Gibson. Those moves created more than $18 million in additional cap space for 2006.


Oakland also declined to use a franchise tag on Charles Woodson, who made $10.537 million last season.


The Raiders scored only 51 points, with just six touchdowns, in their final five games and lost their last six overall and eight of nine despite an offense featuring Collins, Randy Moss, LaMont Jordan and Jerry Porter. At 4-12, they finished with one fewer victory than in fired coach Norv Turner's first season a year ago.


Perhaps the most glaring statistic is Oakland's failure to win a division game for the first time since owner Al Davis came aboard in 1963 to coach and eventually own the team. The Raiders went 1-11 against the AFC West during Turner's two seasons.


Collins started the season well, but couldn't maintain any consistency. He completed 302 passes for 3,759 yards -- his most since 2002 with the Giants -- and 20 touchdowns. He also was sacked 39 times and threw 12 interceptions.

[VonneMarie]

This whole CBA thing is entire mess.

I'm going to bed.

[VonneMarie]

Vikings | Team will let Chavous test the market
Sun, 5 Mar 2006 20:40:36 -0800

Mark Craig, of the Star Tribune, reports the Minnesota Vikings plan to let unrestricted free agent S Corey Chavous test the open market. They may still pursue him in free agency.

:hmmm: