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pr_capone
04-11-2006, 04:58 PM
http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansascity/news/local/14317022.htm

http://www.kansascity.com/images/kansascity/kansascity/14318/205005180272.jpg

Amber Alert: Teen abducted in Independence, Kan.

Authorities have issued an Amber Alert for a 17-year-old girl who was abducted about 6:30 a.m. today from her home in Independence, Kan.

Kelsey Stelting, who was wearing black gym or workout clothes, was then taken about two blocks near a business called Wood Lumber and forced into a white van. The van is believed to be driving south on U.S. 75 out of Independence, which is in southeast Kansas.

Kelsey is 5-feet-4 and 110 pounds with blonde hair and blue eyes. She was last seen at 215 Pine in Independence.

Anyone with information is being asked to call 911, the Independence Police Department at (620) 332-1700, or the Kansas Bureau of Investigation at (800) KS-CRIME.

Skip Towne
04-11-2006, 05:03 PM
South on 75? They will go right by my house. I'd better open the blinds.

RedNFeisty
04-11-2006, 05:06 PM
The family is now offering a reward. I pray they find her safe.

chiefsfaninNC
04-11-2006, 05:07 PM
South on 75? They will go right by my house. I'd better open the blinds.


What good would that do? At your age you can barely see!

ChiefsFire
04-11-2006, 05:14 PM
sad sad deal

how come its always a white van they are looking for?

BIG_DADDY
04-11-2006, 05:17 PM
If they don't get her quick it will be over especially at that age. I hope she makes makes it out alright..

SLAG
04-11-2006, 05:18 PM
this is Posted Incredibly Late, I heard it on the Raido At 8:30AM this Morning

JimNasium
04-11-2006, 05:54 PM
Is Skip's van white?

hawkchief
04-11-2006, 06:12 PM
Absolutely pathetic and disgusting that some here find a reason to inject humor under such dire circumstances. Hopefully no family members will have any reason to view such classlessness and insensitivity.

Skip Towne
04-11-2006, 06:19 PM
Absolutely pathetic and disgusting that some here find a reason to inject humor under such dire circumstances. Hopefully no family members will have any reason to view such classlessness and insensitivity.
Obviously, you haven't been around here long.

Saulbadguy
04-11-2006, 06:20 PM
Absolutely pathetic and disgusting that some here find a reason to inject humor under such dire circumstances. Hopefully no family members will have any reason to view such classlessness and insensitivity.
I'd hit i...er...nevermind!

Skip Towne
04-11-2006, 06:22 PM
I'd hit i...er...nevermind!
You're classless and insensitive. And deranged.

JBucc
04-11-2006, 06:24 PM
You're classless and insensitive. And deranged.And hilarious. Well not really. But chuckleable.

pr_capone
04-11-2006, 06:33 PM
this is Posted Incredibly Late, I heard it on the Raido At 8:30AM this Morning

Then why didnt YOU post it?

I apologize that I didnt get to this according to YOUR timeline. I posted this the second I found out. :cuss:

Skip Towne
04-11-2006, 06:38 PM
Then why didnt YOU post it?

I apologize that I didnt get to this according to YOUR timeline. I posted this the second I found out. :cuss:
Shut up, n00b.

Saulbadguy
04-11-2006, 06:38 PM
Shut up, n00b.
That's rep.

chiefs4me
04-11-2006, 06:41 PM
Is Skip's van white?





Yes it is...I saw a picture of it once..:) and Prayers to this girls family and that she comes home safe.

Gonzo
04-11-2006, 06:41 PM
I'd hit i...er...nevermind!
ROFL You'd fu*k a catchers mit you cooz hound.

pr_capone
04-11-2006, 07:33 PM
Shut up, n00b.

**** you skippy.

4th and Long
04-11-2006, 07:39 PM
**** you skippy.
Here comes Skip and a big ass neg rep bomb ...
http://www.rjgeib.com/thoughts/shiva/deton1.jpg

Boozer
04-11-2006, 07:44 PM
Here comes Skip and a big ass neg rep bomb ...
http://www.rjgeib.com/thoughts/shiva/deton1.jpg

Under normal circumstances, I'd make an "It puts the lotion in the basket" joke about pr_capone, but due to the subject matter of the thread, I'll pass.

4th and Long
04-11-2006, 07:47 PM
Under normal circumstances, I'd make an "It puts the lotion in the basket" joke about pr_capone, but due to the subject matter of the thread, I'll pass.
Your self restraint is incredible. Really. :D

58-4ever
04-11-2006, 07:54 PM
I didn't know there was an Independence, KS.

Skip Towne
04-11-2006, 07:55 PM
**** you skippy.
Oh my, you shouldn't have said that.

4th and Long
04-11-2006, 08:06 PM
Oh my, you shouldn't have said that.
Here is comes ...
Here it comes ...
Here it comes ...
Here it comes ...
Here comes your nineteenth nervous breakdown ...

greg63
04-11-2006, 08:14 PM
It is believed that they headed into Oklahoma whose authorities won't issue an Amber Alert because she's 16 years old. Thanks Oklahoma YOU SUCK!

wutamess
04-11-2006, 09:32 PM
Fox 4 just reported she's found and alive and well in Independence, KS. Currently at police station.

Skip Towne
04-11-2006, 09:36 PM
This whole thing has sounded fishy from the beginning.

greg63
04-11-2006, 09:39 PM
Fox 4 just reported she's found and alive and well in Independence, KS. Currently at police station.

I hope this to be the case.

greg63
04-11-2006, 09:43 PM
This whole thing has sounded fishy from the beginning.

You may be right.

Skip Towne
04-11-2006, 09:47 PM
You may be right.
Usually when 17 year old girls get "kidnapped" it is by their boyfriend.

greg63
04-11-2006, 09:55 PM
Usually when 17 year old girls get "kidnapped" it is by their boyfriend.


Yeah, that does happen. Not that it matters but I heard she was 16.

REDHOTGTO
04-11-2006, 10:15 PM
i live in independence and she is safe at home and will give more details later as i get them

greg63
04-11-2006, 10:17 PM
i live in independence and she is safe at home and will give more details later as i get them

:thumb:

REDHOTGTO
04-11-2006, 10:24 PM
by the way the boyfriend was at school all day and all her friends that we know of too. he was extremley upset all day and was questioned early in the day. (my daughter is a friend),
news conference a minute ago says she was not molested in any way but not much more to go on other than she was released unharmed at a local residence and called the police from there.
will do more tommorow

TEX
04-11-2006, 11:22 PM
i live in independence and she is safe at home and will give more details later as i get them

I just hope they have nothing to do with the Duke Lacross Team.

KCwolf
04-11-2006, 11:26 PM
I just hope they have nothing to do with the Duke Lacross Team.

:clap: Pretty damn good.....

SLAG
04-12-2006, 12:51 AM
Fox 4 Says she is Still missing and so does Headline News...

http://209.248.155.133/fox/fullstory.asp?id=13346

EDIT:

My bad she is safe

thank GOD

http://www.ksamber.org/srv-ksamber/showAlert.do?alert=381

Hog's Gone Fishin
04-12-2006, 06:59 AM
WOW, that's my home town. Lived there until 1983.

Skip Towne
04-12-2006, 07:08 AM
Tulsa radio said this morning that there were many unanswered questions surrounding this deal. Should be interesting how this shakes out.

jspchief
04-12-2006, 07:09 AM
So any more updates on what the hell happened?

Inspector
04-12-2006, 07:27 AM
I'm beginning to wonder if this was a day of playing hookey that went seriously wrong.

Seems to me that if she was abducted, the abductor would have had some bad intent and probably would have committed another crime after he nabbed her.

But I'm just guessing as I have no idea what happened.

KingPriest2
04-12-2006, 07:29 AM
Missing Teen Found Unharmed
News Conference Planned For Wednesday

POSTED: 10:54 pm CDT April 11, 2006
UPDATED: 6:52 am CDT April 12, 2006

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INDEPENDENCE, Kan. -- A missing 16-year-old girl who was reportedly abducted Tuesday morning has been found unharmed, police said.

"She's in good physical condition," Police Chief Lee Bynum said late Tuesday. "She appears to be fine."

Kelsey Lynn Stelting disappeared around 6:30 a.m. while getting ready for school, said her mother, Kelly Cox, earlier in the day. The softball player was getting a bag of softball bats from the family car and did not return to the house, Cox said.

During a news conference near the teen's home, Bynum said Stelting walked up to a home in Independence just before 10 p.m. The occupant, whom she did not know, then called police.


Bynum said authorities did not know whether she was dropped off in front of the house, and he declined to speculate about whether she had escaped.

Kelsey was taken to police headquarters at City Hall and was still being questioned late Tuesday.

No one has been arrested, and law enforcement continued to search late Tuesday for a suspect. The white van that reportedly was linked to the kidnapping was not immediately recovered.

Bynum said he had little information about what took place during the more than 15 hours the teen was missing.

"It's just too early to have that kind of information," he said.

FBI spokesman Jeff Lanza said cases of strangers abducting people are uncommon, but when they occur law enforcement has little time to find the victim safely.

"Cases like this don't often end this way," he said.

Stelting's younger brother, Cody, 8, said he was pleased with the outcome as he waited with family and friends for the start of the news conference.

"I felt kind of scared at first, but now I'm kind of happy," he said.

Earlier, friends and family members hugged and jumped up and down as news of the girl's safe return spread.

"For a split second you are overjoyed," said Lisa Wilson, her aunt. "And then fear sets in until they said the words, 'She's OK."'

Based on a 911 call the teen made from her cell phone after she was abducted, Wilson said police believed there was only one kidnapper.

"She doesn't know where she's been," Wilson said. "She's been driving around all day."

Her boyfriend of more than two years, Brandon Kelley, a 17-year-old junior, said he was stunned by the news.

"It's kind of one of those things that melted over you. It finally felt OK," he said as he stood on the street after visiting the girl's home.

A friend and neighbor, 16-year-old Lauren Lester, said she cried when she heard the news from a family member. Asked if she felt good, she said, "Oh, yes."

Earlier in the day, Kelsey's stepfather, Doug Cox, told the Independence Daily Reporter that police believed the teen was approached by a man with a gun who told her to run about six blocks to Woods Lumber Co. or she would be killed along with her family.

Bynum said earlier Tuesday that when she got to Woods Lumber, she was told to get into a white van that apparently was waiting at the business.

The van, whose make and model were not known, was last seen going south on U.S. 75 toward Oklahoma, which is only about 15 miles from Independence, population of about 9,400.

Cox said when she went outside to see where Kelsey was, the doors to the family's car were open, with the keys on the ground. Cox said she didn't see or hear anything before she went outside.

"Shortly after that we called authorities," Cox said in a telephone interview. "We knew something was wrong right away."

The family had offered a $50,000 reward for the girl's safe return.

Dozens had gathered earlier in the evening at the First United Methodist Church, where the girl's family are members, and the neighboring First Baptist Church to pray for the safe return of the teen. She was described as a good student who was a member of the student council and captain of the dance team.

Another news conference was planned for Wednesday morning.

Lzen
04-12-2006, 07:38 AM
Wow, so much speculation going on. Have we become so mistrusting as a society that we can't take something for face value any more? :shake:

jspchief
04-12-2006, 07:39 AM
Wow, so much speculation going on. Have we become so mistrusting as a society that we can't take something for face value any more? :shake:In the absence of the real story, people are going to speculate.

What's the harm?

Lzen
04-12-2006, 07:46 AM
In the absence of the real story, people are going to speculate.

What's the harm?

Speculation and gossip rarely make things better. But yeah, I know. It's just human nature, I guess.

sedated
04-12-2006, 07:46 AM
I really need to get one of those white vans, I'd fit in so much better at our child molester chili cook-off

ChiefsFire
04-12-2006, 11:38 AM
I really need to get one of those white vans, I'd fit in so much better at our child molester chili cook-off
haha :shake:

JimNasium
04-12-2006, 11:41 AM
haha :shake:
Some of you guys need to lighten up. You take yourselves way too seriously.

Mr. Laz
04-12-2006, 11:57 AM
This whole thing has sounded fishy from the beginning.
yep ...


gets taken but manages one phone call but could only tell which direction she went.


shows up later not injured but nobody saw the person who took her.

ct
04-12-2006, 11:59 AM
Audio of the 911 call

http://www.kansas.com/multimedia/kansas/audio/041206amber.mp3

Authorities sorting out teen abduction (http://www.kansas.com/mld/kansas/14325261.htm)

Fire Me Boy!
04-12-2006, 12:04 PM
Transcript of the 911 call is here: http://www.nbcactionnews.com/kshb/nw_local_news/article/0,1925,KSHB_9424_4615712,00.html

Lzen
04-12-2006, 12:23 PM
That 911 call sounded pretty real to me. If she's faking it, she's a damn good actor.

SLAG
04-12-2006, 12:29 PM
That 911 call sounded pretty real to me. If she's faking it, she's a damn good actor.

I thought All women were good at faking it

Fire Me Boy!
04-12-2006, 12:32 PM
I thought All women were good at faking it
It might surprise you to know, not all women NEED to fake it. If you've been with six women that fake it, maybe the common denominator is you.

SLAG
04-12-2006, 12:48 PM
It might surprise you to know, not all women NEED to fake it. If you've been with six women that fake it, maybe the common denominator is you.

ROFL


I havent even been with 6 women at all.

I was making a General Statement about how all women would be good at faking it if they wanted to.

ROFL

Lzen
04-12-2006, 12:51 PM
It might surprise you to know, not all women NEED to fake it. If you've been with six women that fake it, maybe the common denominator is you.

ROFL That is awesome, man. :thumb:

DMAC
04-12-2006, 02:11 PM
So the kidnapper just let her make a phone call while she was in the van? If my daughter got kidnapped, I would hope it would be by this genius.

Hog's Gone Fishin
04-12-2006, 02:40 PM
I'll bet the kidnapper was Quicksurfer and it took him a while to realize she wasn't his lost cat.

REDHOTGTO
04-12-2006, 02:51 PM
hey hog farmer, i've lived here all my life and graduated in 1982, should i know you?

Rausch
04-12-2006, 02:55 PM
Have we become so mistrusting as a society that we can't take something for face value any more? :shake:


I'd hate to speak for anyone else here, but....uh.....

jcroft
04-12-2006, 02:55 PM
In my experience, 16 year olds aren't too good at faking it.

greg63
04-12-2006, 04:14 PM
So the kidnapper just let her make a phone call while she was in the van? If my daughter got kidnapped, I would hope it would be by this genius.


Well from what I could glean from the 911 phone conversation he stuffed her in the back of the van allowing her the opportunity to make the call while he drove. :shrug:

Phobia
04-12-2006, 04:28 PM
Well from what I could glean from the 911 phone conversation he stuffed her in the back of the van allowing her the opportunity to make the call while he drove. :shrug:

He was probably in a hurry to get back to Grain Valley to help his wife feed all those infants.

Skip Towne
04-12-2006, 09:44 PM
Channel 6 News out of Tulsa is all over this story. At 9:30 this morning I saw their news van heading north on Hiway 75 toward Independence. They are still there giving live reports periodically. The FBI and KBI questioned the girl till past 9:30 tonight. They are really grilling her it appears. Moreso than what you would expect of a victim. They are still planning a news conference yet tonight. I'll keep you posted as this unfolds. Now back to your regularly scheduled program.

Nelson Muntz
04-13-2006, 03:05 AM
We went through Independence last night to do some grocery shopping and you can't even hardly drive by this girl's house. There were at least 10 television crews there with the satelites and all that bs.

greg63
04-13-2006, 07:09 AM
He was probably in a hurry to get back to Grain Valley to help his wife feed all those infants.


ROFLROFL

Saulbadguy
04-13-2006, 07:12 AM
Attention whore.

sedated
04-13-2006, 08:23 AM
It might surprise you to know, not all women NEED to fake it. If you've been with six women that fake it, maybe the common denominator is you.


my dad told me women don't have orgasms

that's just a myth

Lzen
04-13-2006, 09:17 AM
Ok, I'm beginning to have doubts about this girl's story. She spent 15 hours with this kidnapper and didn't see his face? I suppose it's possible that he could've been wearing a mask the whole time. :hmmm: But I didn't see anywhere that she said he had anything covering his face.

The only other thing is that according to everyone that knows this girl, she's a good person.

Friends and acquaintances described the girl as bright, a good student who is involved in such activities at Independence High School as softball, cheerleading, dance squad and student government. They said they didn't see signs of trouble at home or school or anything to cause them to doubt that she had been abducted.

"She's one of our finest students," said principal Jim Runge. "She's a tremendous person. I'd love to have her as my daughter. You have 700 like her, and you don't need a principal."

http://www.cjonline.com/stories/041306/kan_kidnapped.shtml

dj56dt58
04-13-2006, 10:50 AM
I'd hit i...er...nevermind!
I saw that one coming....

REDHOTGTO
04-13-2006, 12:31 PM
fresh off the radio, IT WAS A FRIGGIN HOAX! cannot f****in believe it
i bet she has no friends after this,huh

RedNFeisty
04-13-2006, 12:32 PM
fresh off the radio, IT WAS A FRIGGIN HOAX! cannot f****in believe it
i bet she has no friends after this,huh


I think the little bitch should sit in jail for a few days. Unbelievable.

Donger
04-13-2006, 12:33 PM
Audio of the 911 call

http://www.kansas.com/multimedia/kansas/audio/041206amber.mp3

Authorities sorting out teen abduction (http://www.kansas.com/mld/kansas/14325261.htm)

She's full of shit. She's clearly lying in the first part of that call.

Donger
04-13-2006, 12:34 PM
That 911 call sounded pretty real to me. If she's faking it, she's a damn good actor.

Did you listen to the first half? SHe sounds like she's about to bust out laughing.

JimNasium
04-13-2006, 12:35 PM
Absolutely pathetic and disgusting that some here find a reason to inject humor under such dire circumstances. Hopefully no family members will have any reason to view such classlessness and insensitivity.
BTW, I forgot to mention that your and idiot.

Saulbadguy
04-13-2006, 12:36 PM
Wow, so much speculation going on. Have we become so mistrusting as a society that we can't take something for face value any more? :shake:
:)

Fire Me Boy!
04-13-2006, 12:45 PM
Full story and more... :)


http://www.nbcactionnews.com/kshb/nw_local_news/article/0,1925,KSHB_9424_4618790,00.html

sedated
04-13-2006, 12:47 PM
these damn hoaxes.

we should just assume that all cries for help are pranks.

especially those 911 operators

sedated
04-13-2006, 12:48 PM
It's these kind of false accusations that give us white van drivers a bad name.

she had to say white van, too.

why couldn't she say a black van?

so stereotypical.

Monty
04-13-2006, 01:10 PM
Heh.....story was a hoax.....

http://www.kotv.com/main/home/main.asp

Fire Me Boy!
04-13-2006, 01:25 PM
Heh.....story was a hoax.....

http://www.kotv.com/main/home/main.asp
Wow... you're a fast one.

Fire Me Boy!
04-13-2006, 01:28 PM
Apparently, the girl went jogging and spent most of the 15 hours she was gone in a secluded area in Independence, Kan.

Fish
04-13-2006, 01:34 PM
Just got an e-mail from my cousin.... who is the HS baseball coach in Independence.... he said the house she showed up at was the house of his freshman first baseman Ryan Dierks... and her boyfriend is the short stop on the team..... evidently some strange love triangle shit going on here......

Donger
04-13-2006, 01:36 PM
Just got an e-mail from my cousin.... who is the HS baseball coach in Independence.... he said the house she showed up at was the house of his freshman first baseman Ryan Dierks... and her boyfriend is the short stop on the team..... evidently some strange love triangle shit going on here......

Great. Now I have New Order songs ripping through my skull.

SLAG
04-13-2006, 01:43 PM
we should all Neg rep pr_capone for bringing us Lies

KcMizzou
04-13-2006, 01:44 PM
we should all Neg rep pr_capone for bringing us LiesHeheh. Kill the messenger!!!

pr_capone
04-13-2006, 01:47 PM
we should all Neg rep pr_capone for bringing us Lies

ROFL

Not my fault!!! lol

Monty
04-13-2006, 02:00 PM
Wow... you're a fast one.


That's not what she said. :p

Skip Towne
04-13-2006, 02:02 PM
we should all Neg rep pr_capone for bringing us Lies
Great idea!! I'll go first!!

greg63
04-13-2006, 02:03 PM
I think the little bitch should sit in jail for a few days. Unbelievable.

Yep!


My apologies to Oklahoma! :banghead:

Hog's Gone Fishin
04-13-2006, 02:09 PM
This is exactly why I left Independence many years ago. The place is full of liars and drugs.

Skip Towne
04-13-2006, 02:13 PM
I called this a hoax two days ago. See my post 28 on this thread.

pr_capone
04-13-2006, 02:17 PM
I called this a hoax two days ago. See my post 28 on this thread.

Good call... what gave it away to you?

I read the article, and watched the news and thought it was for real. The only thing that didnt make sence to me was the phone call to 911.

greg63
04-13-2006, 02:22 PM
I called this a hoax two days ago. See my post 28 on this thread.


:clap::clap:


That you did.

greg63
04-13-2006, 02:22 PM
Let's not go crazy here. Oklahoma still sucks.


ROFLROFL

Nelson Muntz
04-13-2006, 02:26 PM
fresh off the radio, IT WAS A FRIGGIN HOAX! cannot f****in believe it
i bet she has no friends after this,huh

I give it 6 months max before she moves out of the area.

Phobia
04-13-2006, 02:32 PM
FWIW, I grew up with a kid who disappeared one day. We were all 15 and he just vanished. By all accounts his homelife was fine, he was a good student, and everything was great.... His bank account was undisturbed and he didn't even take his wallet.

Everybody assumed the worst.

Couple weeks later he calls his mother - "Hey Mom - I'm in California. I'm ready to come home." Heh heh.

He'd hitchhiked, riden with a bike gang and somehow made his way halfway across the country.

Everybody welcomed him back. He resides in the area to this day.

greg63
04-13-2006, 02:35 PM
FWIW, I grew up with a kid who disappeared one day. We were all 15 and he just vanished. By all accounts his homelife was fine, he was a good student, and everything was great.... His bank account was undisturbed and he didn't even take his wallet.

Everybody assumed the worst.

Couple weeks later he calls his mother - "Hey Mom - I'm in California. I'm ready to come home." Heh heh.

He'd hitchhiked, riden with a bike gang and somehow made his way halfway across the country.

Everybody welcomed him back. He resides in the area to this day.

Well not a good thing for sure, but he didn't play it off as an abduction.

Nelson Muntz
04-13-2006, 02:37 PM
Well not a good thing for sure, but he didn't play it off as an abduction.

Or have the FBI investigating, or having local industries charter planes to look for her, or fake 911 calls, etc.

SLAG
04-13-2006, 02:37 PM
FWIW, I grew up with a kid who disappeared one day. We were all 15 and he just vanished. By all accounts his homelife was fine, he was a good student, and everything was great.... His bank account was undisturbed and he didn't even take his wallet.

Everybody assumed the worst.

Couple weeks later he calls his mother - "Hey Mom - I'm in California. I'm ready to come home." Heh heh.

He'd hitchhiked, riden with a bike gang and somehow made his way halfway across the country.

Everybody welcomed him back. He resides in the area to this day.

and then this "Friend" Started a chiefs Message Board system right.. called it "CheifsPlanet"

Lzen
04-13-2006, 03:16 PM
these damn hoaxes.

we should just assume that all cries for help are pranks.

especially those 911 operators


Ha ha ha. ROFL

Lzen
04-13-2006, 03:19 PM
I've been hoodwinked, I tell ya. :banghead:


Seriously, this girl should have to pay somehow. 4321

SLAG
04-13-2006, 03:21 PM
I've been hoodwinked, I tell ya. :banghead:


Seriously, this girl should have to pay somehow. 4321

I'll Stand still and someone Give her some Black Lipstick

Fire Me Boy!
04-13-2006, 03:55 PM
I'm hoping she gets enough community service to pay for all people's time she wasted, every bloody ****in' one of 'em.

RedNFeisty
04-13-2006, 04:40 PM
I'm hoping she gets enough community service to pay for all people's time she wasted, every bloody ****in' one of 'em.


They would need to start pimping her ass to accomplish that.

Skip Towne
04-13-2006, 04:42 PM
They would need to start pimping her ass to accomplish that.
Then so be it!

Katipan
04-13-2006, 04:52 PM
...

ChiefsFire
04-13-2006, 04:59 PM
It's these kind of false accusations that give us white van drivers a bad name.

she had to say white van, too.

why couldn't she say a black van?

so, stereotypical.


its not common knowledge that all sex offenders drive white vans?

i think that should be a new law...all sex offenders only drive white vans

"Bob" Dobbs
04-13-2006, 05:48 PM
I'm the program director of the Independence radio stations, and have been following this story EXTREMELY closely for a couple of days. To quite a few local folks, (including me), the story fell apart from time they released the 911 call. According to the family late this afternoon, there are "medical reasons" involved in the whole story. My money is on pregnancy. She coulda blamed being pregnant on her "kidnap experience".
Lots of ppl are pretty pissed at her; she should pay in some manner, but bottom line is she's a 16 year old kid who bit off WAY more than she could chew.
BTW, I drive a white van & got pulled over almost immediately Tues morning. Cops were SERIOUS.

greg63
04-14-2006, 06:37 AM
I'm the program director of the Independence radio stations, and have been following this story EXTREMELY closely for a couple of days. To quite a few local folks, (including me), the story fell apart from time they released the 911 call. According to the family late this afternoon, there are "medical reasons" involved in the whole story. My money is on pregnancy. She coulda blamed being pregnant on her "kidnap experience".
Lots of ppl are pretty pissed at her; she should pay in some manner, but bottom line is she's a 16 year old kid who bit off WAY more than she could chew.
BTW, I drive a white van & got pulled over almost immediately Tues morning. Cops were SERIOUS.


Yep! The Feds don't have much of a sense of humor either. I heard yesterday that Terry Clark and some of the Cessna test Pilots were flying all over that day looking for her as well.

plbrdude
04-14-2006, 06:46 AM
has this girl given a reason as to why she would pull such a stunt? surely it's not so lame as to see if "anybody really cares about me" type thing. i just don't have the mentality to understand why anyone would do such a thing.

Skip Towne
04-14-2006, 06:48 AM
has this girl given a reason as to why she would pull such a stunt? surely it's not so lame as to see if "anybody really cares about me" type thing. i just don't have the mentality to understand why anyone would do such a thing.
She's a woman. It's that shit swimming around in their blood.

plbrdude
04-14-2006, 07:23 AM
She's a woman. It's that shit swimming around in their blood.


good enough answer for me

REDHOTGTO
04-14-2006, 08:34 AM
the radio station was taking call ins this morning for a poll on what should be done to her, or at least comments about it. how about a poll on here, give me some ideas on what to do, and make them realistic, not some of the stupid shit you guys suggest,lol. ROFL
thanks

Fire Me Boy!
04-14-2006, 08:43 AM
the radio station was taking call ins this morning for a poll on what should be done to her, or at least comments about it. how about a poll on here, give me some ideas on what to do, and make them realistic, not some of the stupid shit you guys suggest,lol. ROFL
thanks
I'm 100% serious AND realistic -- I think that girl should get hours upon hours of community service. I think if there was a way to make her financially responsible for the taxpayers' dollars spent on her little stunt without making her parents pay for it, that'd be the way I'd go. But since she's a minor, high school student, living at home, etc. that's not very viable. Therefore, put her ass cleaning ditches every weekend for two years or whatever.

Hog's Gone Fishin
04-14-2006, 09:14 AM
the radio station was taking call ins this morning for a poll on what should be done to her, or at least comments about it. how about a poll on here, give me some ideas on what to do, and make them realistic, not some of the stupid shit you guys suggest,lol. ROFL
thanks

Force her to collect boar semen for 30 days. I'm not kidding!

REDHOTGTO
04-14-2006, 10:11 AM
I'm 100% serious AND realistic -- I think that girl should get hours upon hours of community service. I think if there was a way to make her financially responsible for the taxpayers' dollars spent on her little stunt without making her parents pay for it, that'd be the way I'd go. But since she's a minor, high school student, living at home, etc. that's not very viable. Therefore, put her ass cleaning ditches every weekend for two years or whatever.


i like this last part a lot :clap:

teedubya
04-14-2006, 10:55 AM
Ironically, my mom just called me and told me that my cousin, her sisters 20 year old daughter, Laura Hoeltzel has been missing since Monday in Bella Vista Arkansas.

She had a minor car wreck a few weeks ago, that fooked this mexican guy who was driving the other car... she gave him ALL her information, and they think he may have pulled some shit.

She took no clothes, medicine, or contacts...

so who knows? Im going down there this weekend to see if I can help console the family.

Craziness.

Mr. Laz
04-14-2006, 11:02 AM
we should all Neg rep pr_capone for bringing us Lies
don't forget some neg rep for this guy
Absolutely pathetic and disgusting that some here find a reason to inject humor under such dire circumstances. Hopefully no family members will have any reason to view such classlessness and insensitivity.

Mr. Laz
04-14-2006, 11:04 AM
nows the time for one of you white van owners to swoop in.


she can't very well "cry wolf" again, now can she

ct
04-14-2006, 11:55 AM
Ironically, my mom just called me and told me that my cousin, her sisters 20 year old daughter, Laura Hoeltzel has been missing since Monday in Bella Vista Arkansas.

She had a minor car wreck a few weeks ago, that fooked this mexican guy who was driving the other car... she gave him ALL her information, and they think he may have pulled some shit.

She took no clothes, medicine, or contacts...

so who knows? Im going down there this weekend to see if I can help console the family.

Craziness.

Good Luck with that Ali, hope everything is ok. Strange, but this hoax crap is certainly perferrable to the alternative w/ a worst case outcome. Sad thing is, her BS impacts future reports, and cost a lot of people time, $, energy, and mental worry for family/friends/concerned citizens. She should pay, but not with any hard type of incarceration. The community service suggestion, and lots of it, is a damn good idea.

sedated
04-14-2006, 12:11 PM
Force her to collect boar semen for 30 days. I'm not kidding!


that's more of a reward.

unless she has to do it with her mouth

mcan
04-14-2006, 01:13 PM
At least she's alright, and we got a chance to practice the response to the Amber Alert, which was pretty impressive, if you ask me...


The girl should get some community service, and be kicked off the softball team for missing her game. Not to mention some kind of punishment for skipping school.


As far as her acting alone... Didn't happen. She's clearly in someone's car in that 911 phone call. Some guy "masterminded" this and she's trying to not get him in trouble. My bet is, the guy who's house she ended up at. It happened just early enough in the morning for her to drop him off at school (so he doesn't get counted absent) and go off and have an abortion without anybody knowing.

Then she shows up at this guys' house and gets caught. When she admits to lying about it, she makes up yet another story about running around the woods all day.

Nelson Muntz
04-14-2006, 04:21 PM
At least she's alright, and we got a chance to practice the response to the Amber Alert, which was pretty impressive, if you ask me...


The girl should get some community service, and be kicked off the softball team for missing her game. Not to mention some kind of punishment for skipping school.


As far as her acting alone... Didn't happen. She's clearly in someone's car in that 911 phone call. Some guy "masterminded" this and she's trying to not get him in trouble. My bet is, the guy who's house she ended up at. It happened just early enough in the morning for her to drop him off at school (so he doesn't get counted absent) and go off and have an abortion without anybody knowing.

Then she shows up at this guys' house and gets caught. When she admits to lying about it, she makes up yet another story about running around the woods all day.

I work at the same place as him and he was at work at 6 in the morning just like every other morning.

"Bob" Dobbs
04-14-2006, 06:19 PM
The part that seems to be pissing off the most folks around here is, there is a LOT of local sentiment to "forgive her"; problem is, she has YET to apologize oir ASK for forgiveness. Till then, hell with her.

Skip Towne
04-14-2006, 07:23 PM
They had plenty of time to get to "Killer Tiller" the Wichita abortionist, and back. That's my bet.

greg63
04-14-2006, 09:23 PM
They had plenty of time to get to "Killer Tiller" the Wichita abortionist, and back. That's my bet.

...May very well be. I have my thoughts about what should be done with her, but decency prohibits mentioning it here.

REDHOTGTO
04-14-2006, 09:40 PM
i was kind of upset that when the family did their statement, she was not drug out there to apoligize to the town on the air.
some new news i have come across is that she MIGHT have done this to a smaller extreme when she was younger. i guess when she was in 4th grade she claimed someone was trying to grab her from the school playground and later she also said someone tried to get her at a store. what is up with that? i think she may need some serious help, but she still needs to learn a lesson, a hard lesson from this. keep in mind this is a rumor but is believeable.
i would so beat my kids to a inch of their life if they tried anything even close to this bull. may not help them but i'd feel a little better, i may even do it on live tv?

"Bob" Dobbs
04-14-2006, 10:25 PM
yeah, she has a history of running away. i imagine she'll run away for REAL after this debacle.

Hammock Parties
04-16-2006, 03:02 PM
the house she showed up at was the house of his freshman first baseman Ryan Dierks... and her boyfriend is the short stop on the team..... evidently some strange love triangle shit going on here......

Sounds like whore-to-six-to-three double-team.

Skip Towne
05-18-2006, 03:50 PM
This girl has been charged with filing a false criminal report and three counts of interfering with official duty.

jidar
05-18-2006, 03:52 PM
that's more of a reward.

unless she has to do it with her mouth


as opposed to you doing it with your ass.

jidar
05-18-2006, 03:52 PM
as opposed to you doing it with your ass.


Oh that was just wrong,

Lord I apologize...

Hammock Parties
05-18-2006, 04:04 PM
Sounds like whore-to-six-to-three double-team.

ROFL

Mr. Flopnuts
05-18-2006, 05:17 PM
ROFL


You're laughing at your own month old joke? Hmm. I laughed but I was allowed too.