Which is more important;...

[greg63]

Love or respect?


I think love, because if you have love then you have respect. IMO

[Boozer]

I respect many people/things that I don't love. I love very few people/things that I don't respect.

[luv]

Love or respect?


I think love, because if you have love then you have respect. IMO
How can you love someone whom you have no respect for?

I would definitely say respect. I may not like everyone I come across, but it's important to me to show respect until given a reason not to.

[greg63]

How can you love someone whom you have no respect for?

I would definitely say respect. I may not like everyone I come across, but it's important to me to show respect until given a reason not to.

Good point.

I say love because then you have both. IMO

[Simplex3]

Respect. You can't be loved until you're respected. The better question is "Fear or Respect".

[luv]

Good point.

I say love because then you have both. IMO
I believe in building on a firm foundation. You just can't love without respect. I'm not saying love isn't important; just that respect is more important.

[luv]

Respect. You can't be loved until you're respected. The better question is "Fear or Respect".
That is a very good question, too. I'm an assistant supervisor where I work. I would much rather have people respect me than fear me. I believe you get more out of people who respect you. They can do things out of fear, but then they're not doing it because they want to. You get better quality out of people who want to do something as opposed to having to do something. In turn, I must show respect. Also, there is a certain amount of fear in respect, but that's not bad unless you make it bad.

[greg63]

Respect. You can't be loved until you're respected. The better question is "Fear or Respect".

Which is why I say love because you have then gained respect.


You can have respect without love, but you cannot have love without respect.


I love how we agree with one another, but place more importance on the separate answers. :D

[luv]

Which is why I say love because you have then gained respect.


You can have respect without love, but you cannot have love without respect.


I love how we agree with one another, but place more importance on the separate answers. :D
If you can't have love without respect, wouldn't that make respect more important?

I agree. It's all about perspective.

[Bugeater]

What, no GAZ option?

[greg63]

That is a very good question, too. I'm an assistant supervisor where I work. I would much rather have people respect me than fear me. I believe you get more out of people who respect you. They can do things out of fear, but then they're not doing it because they want to. You get better quality out of people who want to do something as opposed to having to do something. In turn, I must show respect. Also, there is a certain amount of fear in respect, but that's not bad unless you make it bad.

Agreed. In this circumstance I could care less about being feared as I would about being respected.

[greg63]

What, no GAZ option?



:banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead:


I can't believe I have disrespected Gaz!

[Reaper16]

Love is more important to me. There are plenty of people I simply have respect for. Precious fewer are those that I love.

[greg63]

If you can't have love without respect, wouldn't that make respect more important?

I agree. It's all about perspective.


Very true, and you again raise a valid point.

[stevieray]

Men desire respect
Women desire love

They are equally important and thrive off each other.

[luv]

Men desire respect
Women desire love
I guess I'm just weird.

[Simplex3]

As for my Fear or Respect question, it depends on circumstance.

Usually I only use the fear card if time is an issue and I don't have time to foster the respect necessary to get the job done. I have no problem using fear in a short term situation. As a matter of fact, in most relationships based on respect there is an element of fear that is overridden by trust IMO. I guess I also use fear a lot with people I will generally only see for a short term and then dismiss like contractors.

Fear doesn't mean being mean or being a jerk in my book, though. I simply let them know on day one that I have them by the balls, this is what I expect, and I'm not afraid to squeeze if they don't give me what I want. I use a little saying that an old boss of mine taught me:

"You will fall into one of two groups, defined as Can/Can't and Will/Won't. If you aren't a Can-Will then you may as well get the f**k out now because I'm going to quickly figure it out and then I'm going to fire you." They love that speech.

[Simplex3]

Men desire respect
Women desire love
I really desire a steak.

[Reaper16]

I really desire a steak.
:thumb:

[greg63]

Men desire respect
Women desire love

Not necessarily.

[greg63]

I guess I'm just weird.


Not at all.

[Simplex3]

Not at all.
Yes she is.

[greg63]

I really desire a steak.

Me too buddy! :thumb:

[stevieray]

Not necessarily.

didn't you just agree that it's all perspective?

I'm sorry, I thought you were asking for opinions.

[luv]

Yes she is.
You SHOOSH!

[Simplex3]

You SHOOSH!
:D

[greg63]

didn't you just agree that it's all perspective?

I'm sorry, I thought you were asking for opinions.

Yes I did agree that it is perspective, and I did ask for opinions; I was simply giving you mine.

[greg63]

You SHOOSH!


Beat me to it. :D

[keg in kc]

Both are important. I don't think you can have love without respect, however, so respect is thereby more important.

[Simplex3]

Yes I did agree that it is perspective, and I did ask for opinions; I was simply giving you mine.
Ok, you and Stevie. Here's what I don't like about the Planet right now. Sack up, guys. If you need stroking to feel good about your opinion maybe you have the wrong opinion.

:shrug:

[luv]

:D
Don't you smile at me. :harumph:

[stevieray]

Yes I did agree that it is perspective, and I did ask for opinions; I was simply giving you mine.

no, you were disagreeing with my opinion, which is fine.

I agree that it's all perpsective therefore is there a wrong answer to your question?

[greg63]

Ok, you and Stevie. Here's what I don't like about the Planet right now. Sack up, guys. If you need stroking to feel good about your opinion maybe you have the wrong opinion.

:shrug:


I feel just fine about my opinion; can't speak for Stevie.

[stevieray]

Ok, you and Stevie. Here's what I don't like about the Planet right now. Sack up, guys. If you need stroking to feel good about your opinion maybe you have the wrong opinion.

:shrug:

sack up? for what?

[Simplex3]

You two Nancys arguing over whether or not you're telling eachother if you're allowed to have an opinion. It's making my head spin.

[stevieray]

You two Nancys arguing over whether or not you're telling eachother if you're allowed to have an opinion. It's making my head spin.

you sound like a den nancy.

[greg63]

no, you were disagreing with my opinon, which is fine.

I agree that it's all perpsectivem therefore is there a wrong answer to your question?


No I don't think so; I just badly voiced an opposing opinion which I sometimes am in a habit of doing. :doh!:

[Simplex3]

you sound like a den nancy.
ROFL


Wait... :cuss:

[stevieray]

ROFL


Wait... :cuss:


ROFL

[stevieray]

No I don't think so; I just badly voiced an opposing opinion which I sometimes am in a habit of doing. :doh!:

aren't we all.... :clap:

[greg63]

ROFL


Wait... :cuss:



ROFL


:shrug:


:D

[greg63]

aren't we all.... :clap:


:thumb:

[tk13]

Would I rather be feared or loved? Easy, both... I want people to be afraid of how much they love me.

[Simplex3]

ooo, I get it. We're post-whoring. :bolts:

[Simplex3]

Would I rather be feared or loved? Easy, both... I want people to be afraid of how much they love me.
Is the HIV or the Herp scarrier to your lovers?

[Simplex3]

Superman

[greg63]

Would I rather be feared or loved? Easy, both... I want people to be afraid of how much they love me.


I was afraid you would say that. :D

[greg63]

Superman

:hmmm:

[Simplex3]

:moon:

[Simplex3]

:hmmm:
Stop bothering me, I'm post-whoring.

[Simplex3]

:grovel:

[Simplex3]

gannon

[Simplex3]

:Scanlon:

[greg63]

Stop bothering me, I'm post-whoring.


Me too!


:nosmilie: Oh wait; you're not SNR.

[BigMeatballDave]

I think love, because if you have love then you have respect. IMOCompletely untrue. I love my oldest sister, but she's an alcoholic and deserted her teenage girls, so I've lost all respect for her. Haven't spoken to her in 3 1/2 years...

[greg63]

Completely untrue. I love my oldest sister, but she's an alcoholic and deserted her teenage girls, so I've lost all respect for her. Haven't spoken to her in 3 1/2 years...
This post comes the closest to changing my perspective; only because I have a similar situation in my family.

[Simplex3]

This post comes the closest to changing my perspective; only because I have a similar situation in my family.
My aunt left town the day before her mother's funeral and emptied my dead grandmother's checking account on the way out of town. She also stole her pain pills.

I don't love her or respect her but I do pity her.

[stevieray]

My aunt left town the day before her mother's funeral and emptied my dead grandmother's checking account on the way out of town. She also stole her pain pills.

I don't love her or respect her but I do pity her.

post whore.

[Simplex3]

post whore.
:thumb:

[stevieray]

:thumb:

That's why I like you simplex, you can take it as well as you can dish it out.

[Simplex3]

That's why I like you simplex, you can take it as well as you can dish it out.
If you're going to get bent about some crap laid down on you on some crappy board you need to re-evaluate some things in your life.

[luv]

That's why I like you simplex, you can take it as well as you can dish it out.
Yeah, I'm trying to think of another reason to like him...




















...I got nuthin.

[Simplex3]

Yeah, I'm trying to think of another reason to like him...

...I got nuthin.
I'm damned sexy.

[greg63]

Yeah, I'm trying to think of another reason to like him...




















...I got nuthin.


ROFLROFL

[luv]

I'm damned sexy.
Nah, that's not it. If you were sexy, I wouldn't be able to figure out two words to say to you. Maybe it's because you put the fear into me if I didn't.

[greg63]

I'm damned sexy.
Compared to what??

[Simplex3]

Compared to what??
http://www.66nord.com/img-bases/walrus_01.jpg

[luv]

http://www.66nord.com/img-bases/walrus_01.jpg
Where did you get that picture of me?!?! I thought you said you got rid of it!!!

[Simplex3]

Nah, that's not it. If you were sexy, I wouldn't be able to figure out two words to say to you. Maybe it's because you put the fear into me if I didn't.
I just make people instantly comfortable. Oddly enough, despite my abrasive edges I never dated a girl who's mother wouldn't have whored her out to me. It was pretty amazing, if they said be home by 10 I could ask if 12 was Ok and they'd say yes every time. I think the big thing was I was never afraid of parents and actively tried to engage them in conversation.

:shrug:

[Simplex3]

Where did you get that picture of me?!?! I thought you said you got rid of it!!!
Luv and I at the beach. You guess who is who.


http://www.adam.com.au/matwoods/photos/holidays2002/Walrus.jpg

[greg63]

http://www.66nord.com/img-bases/walrus_01.jpg
ROFLROFL
Well heck in that case I too am terribly sexy.

[greg63]

Luv and I at the beach. You guess who is who.


http://www.adam.com.au/matwoods/photos/holidays2002/Walrus.jpg


ROFLROFLROFL

Rep!

[luv]

ROFLROFLROFL

Rep!
I wouldn't give rep to any guy who looks like a girl.

[Simplex3]

I wouldn't give rep to any guy who looks like a girl.
That's a tough one for you. Do you want to be the fatass with buck teeth and a moustache or the chick with her hand on his package?

[greg63]

I wouldn't give rep to any guy who looks like a girl.

ROFLROFLROFL


Looks male to me; the wiskers gave it away.


Rep for you too!

[luv]

That's a tough one for you. Do you want to be the fatass with buck teeth and a moustache or the chick with her hand and his package?
Did you know that walruses have the second largest package of any mammal?

I notice you're trying to block me, too. Move your hand...err, flipper.

[Simplex3]

Did you know that walruses have the second largest package of any mammal?
Did you know it actaully has a bone in it?

[luv]

Did you know it actaully has a bone in it?
Have you ever seen 50 First Dates?

[greg63]

Did you know it actaully has a bone in it?


That can't be Simplex then.

[greg63]

Have you ever seen 50 First Dates?


Great show; laughed my butt off!

[Simplex3]

That can't be Simplex then.
You saying I'm spinless? Or just limp? 'Cause they make a pill for the second one.

[Simplex3]

Have you ever seen 50 First Dates?
Yeah, but I don't remember much about it.

[luv]

Yeah, but I don't remember much about it.
Okay. They make a joke about that in the movie.

[greg63]

You saying I'm spinless? Or just limp? 'Cause they make a pill for the second one.

ROFLROFLROFLROFL

The second.

Here ya go.

[luv]

You saying I'm spinless? Or just limp? 'Cause they make a pill for the second one.
You're spinless? I love to spin!

[greg63]

You're spinless? I love to spin!


I used to but it makes me dizzy.

[Simplex3]

I prefer the subtle vagina logo:

http://www.121doc.com/Images/Levitra_Logo.jpg

[greg63]

I prefer the subtle vagina logo:

http://www.121doc.com/Images/Levitra_Logo.jpg


:thumb:

[Simplex3]

You're spinless? I love to spin!
Damnit, it's late and I'm sick. If you're going to nitpick me all night you're going to need some serious energy.

[luv]

Damnit, it's late and I'm sick. If you're going to nitpick me all night you're going to need some serious energy.
I'm a woman. That's my job.

[greg63]

I'm a woman. That's my job.


...And you do it well.

[Simplex3]

I'm a woman. That's my job.
:spock: Awww shit. Guess I'll have to slip into man-mode.


Yes dear. Uh huh. I agree. Sure, we can do that. Whatever you think.

[luv]

:spock: Awww shit. Guess I'll have to slip into man-mode.


Yes dear. Uh huh. I agree. Sure, we can do that. Whatever you think.
Wow. Why aren't real live men that easy?

[greg63]

:spock: Awww shit. Guess I'll have to slip into man-mode.


Yes dear. Uh huh. I agree. Sure, we can do that. Whatever you think.


That would be it.


When my wife and I argue I always get the last word in much the same way; "Yes dear....Yes dear...”

[Dunit35]

Wow. Why aren't real live men that easy?


I'm easy.

[greg63]

I'm easy.

She was talking about real live men. :D

j/k.

[luv]

I'm easy.
Nah. I want one that's already been trained. :p

[Dunit35]

I swear 13 or 14 more comments like that from you two and both of you will be taken off my buddy list forever. :)

[luv]

I swear 13 or 14 more comments like that from you two and both of you will be taken off my buddy list forever. :)
No offense to you at all. I'm just too lazy to do it myself.

[greg63]

I swear 13 or 14 more comments like that from you two and both of you will be taken off my buddy list forever. :)
ROFLROFL

No, no! Anything but that! :D



Hey, post 100!

[Dunit35]

I's just kidding about the buddy list, nobody is on it and I don't even know what it is all about. Now the ignore option is a different story.

[Simplex3]

No offense to you at all. I'm just too lazy to do it myself.
The only way to get a properly trained man is to do it yourself. Otherwise you won't be where he goes when he wanders home beaten and broken.

[greg63]

No offense to you at all. I'm just too lazy to do it myself.
ROFL

I have just lost all respect for you. :p

[greg63]

The only way to get a properly trained man is to do it yourself. Otherwise you won't be where he goes when he wanders home beaten and broken.

Yup!

[Phobia]

Men desire respect
Women desire love

They are equally important and thrive off each other.

Bingo. Figure that out and when you do, relationships with the opposite sex will improve.

[greg63]

Bingo. Figure that out and when you do, relationships with the opposite sex will improve.

But do men really desire respect more then do women, and do women really desire love more the do men?

[luv]

The only way to get a properly trained man is to do it yourself. Otherwise you won't be where he goes when he wanders home beaten and broken.
Please don't start making sense.

[greg63]

Please don't start making sense.

Yes dear....

[Simplex3]

But do men really desire respect more then do women, and do women really desire love more the do men?
Unless you're a Nancy-boy.

[greg63]

Unless you're a Nancy-boy.
Well I am of the male gender, but my name is Greg; not Nancy.

[greg63]

Well once again I'm bedding down early.

Nite planet!

[greg63]

Bump for the day crew.

[greg63]

One more bump in hopes of gaining some more Planet night crew perspective. :D

[MahiMike]

I didn't know Greg was a chick's name...

[MOhillbilly]

id have to say love in the aspect of family and friends. Respect through fear when you hit the streets.

[StcChief]

Respect must come first.

[greg63]

I didn't know Greg was a chick's name...

Little ones should be seen and not heard, but in your case you should be neither. Now get off your mommy's computer; it's not a toy and shouldn’t be used by children without adult supervision. :shake:

[greg63]

Respect must come first.
Agreed, however, I still place more value on love because it is the rarer of the two. IMO

[Phobia]

But do men really desire respect more then do women, and do women really desire love more the do men?

Yes, absolutely. If you're really interested in learning more about it, plug in "love and respect" into Google. Hit the amazon link and buy the book.

[RedNFeisty]

Would I rather have Love or Respect? It depends, with my family I love them but pretty much have no respect for them for one reason or another. With my husband I have to have both, but I feel respect is more important. If I am respected than the love will follow and vice versa. IMO if you are not respected in a relationship than you will not be treated like one should be.

In business it has to be respect. I have been on a management team since my last job in high school. I could care less who likes me, but I demand respect, the job depends on it, I would not and do not ask anything of anyone that I myself am not willing to do.

This also raises the question does respect need to be earned or given freely? I offer my respect to some, but others have to earn it, a double standard on my part really since I demand respect from some but those same people have to earn my respect.

[Mark M]

I think respect is more important -- after all, how can you love someone if you don't respect them?

MM
~~:shrug:

[greg63]

Yes, absolutely. If you're really interested in learning more about it, plug in "love and respect" into Google. Hit the amazon link and buy the book.

I'll look into it.

[greg63]

I was looking over my previous threads to bump in celebration of 8k posts and settled upon this one.



So; BUMP for 8k and all the n00bs.

[BucEyedPea]

I believe in building on a firm foundation. You just can't love without respect. I'm not saying love isn't important; just that respect is more important.
:thumb: Agreed.
But some situations only require respect and not love.
Relationships need both though.

[luv]

:thumb: Agreed.
But some situations only require respect and not love.
Relationships need both though.
Yep, I'm in supervision where I work. They don't have to love me, or like me even, but they need to respect me (as much as I do them).

[greg63]

Yep, I'm in supervision where I work. They don't have to love me, or like me even, but they need to respect me (as much as I do them).

This is true in that situation; one does not always have the luxury of friendship or being one's buddy. Most people respect you more as an authority figure if you don't let them run over you

[hypersensitiveZO6]

I might have this figured out. :hmmm:

If a person respects you, you get to make love?

[greg63]

I might have this figured out. :hmmm:

If a person respects you, you get to make love?

Randy Moss's off season activities include collecting Rich Scanlons deposit at the local sperm bank???

[hypersensitiveZO6]

Randy Moss's off season activities include collecting Rich Scanlons deposit at the local sperm bank???

Yes, He reaction was "Oh hell! This shit is STRAWBERRY!"

[greg63]

Yes, He reaction was "Oh hell! This shit is STRAWBERRY!"


You mean he drank some???

[hypersensitiveZO6]

You mean he drank some???

yep. twas thursty fo some scanlon.

[greg63]

yep. twas thursty fo some scanlon.


ROFLROFL

[Demonpenz]

if i win i get the money and the respect. For osme people the respect is more important

[vailpass]

Where is the butt sechs option?

[Inspector]

I'm thinking money.

Money is more important.

If I have enough money I can buy things that will keep me from being superficial.

[cadmonkey]

When did this become Homoplanet??????

[htismaqe]

Where is the butt sechs option?

ROFL

[Moooo]

I refuse to believe greg started a poll without an obligatory Gaz option.

This changes EVERYTHING.

Moooo

[Moooo]

I refuse to believe greg started a poll without an obligatory Gaz option.

This changes EVERYTHING.

Moooo

bump

[Psyko Tek]

here's my take

courtesy is given

respect is earned

love is....

usually painful

[luv]

here's my take

courtesy is given

respect is earned

love is....

usually painful
I like that.

[Moooo]

here's my take

courtesy is given

respect is earned

luv is....

usually painful

fixed it for you

Moooo

[greg63]

fixed it for you

Moooo


luv's gonna get you for that.:rolleyes:




j/k

[Moooo]

luv's gonna get you for that.:rolleyes:




j/k

I know. As long as she knows there's no insinuation behind it, I'm cool.

Moooo

[greg63]

...Not to get all "Sunday School" or anything, but this is kinda my take on this:

1 Corinthians 13
1. If I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, but have not love, I am become sounding brass, or a clanging cymbal.
2. And if I have the gift of prophecy, and know all mysteries and all knowledge; and if I have all faith, so as to remove mountains, but have not love, I am nothing.
3. And if I bestow all my goods to feed the poor, and if I give my body to be burned, but have not love, it profiteth me nothing.
4. Love suffereth long, and is kind; love envieth not; love vaunteth not itself, is not puffed up,
5. doth not behave itself unseemly, seeketh not its own, is not provoked, taketh not account of evil;
6. rejoiceth not in unrighteousness, but rejoiceth with the truth;
7. beareth all things, believeth all things, hopeth all things, endureth all things.
8. Love never faileth: but whether there be prophecies, they shall be done away; whether there be tongues, they shall cease; whether there be knowledge, it shall be done away.
9. For we know in part, and we prophesy in part;
10. but when that which is perfect is come, that which is in part shall be done away.
11. When I was a child, I spake as a child, I felt as a child, I thought as a child: now that I am become a man, I have put away childish things.
12. For now we see in a mirror, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know fully even as also I was fully known.
13. But now abideth faith, hope, love, these three; and the greatest of these is love.

[greg63]

I know. As long as she knows there's no insinuation behind it, I'm cool.

Moooo

luv's cool; she won't beat ya up too bad.

[luv]

...Not to get all "Sunday School" or anything, but this is kinda my take on this:

1 Corinthians 13
1. If I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, but have not love, I am become sounding brass, or a clanging cymbal.
2. And if I have the gift of prophecy, and know all mysteries and all knowledge; and if I have all faith, so as to remove mountains, but have not love, I am nothing.
3. And if I bestow all my goods to feed the poor, and if I give my body to be burned, but have not love, it profiteth me nothing.
4. Love suffereth long, and is kind; love envieth not; love vaunteth not itself, is not puffed up,
5. doth not behave itself unseemly, seeketh not its own, is not provoked, taketh not account of evil;
6. rejoiceth not in unrighteousness, but rejoiceth with the truth;
7. beareth all things, believeth all things, hopeth all things, endureth all things.
8. Love never faileth: but whether there be prophecies, they shall be done away; whether there be tongues, they shall cease; whether there be knowledge, it shall be done away.
9. For we know in part, and we prophesy in part;
10. but when that which is perfect is come, that which is in part shall be done away.
11. When I was a child, I spake as a child, I felt as a child, I thought as a child: now that I am become a man, I have put away childish things.
12. For now we see in a mirror, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know fully even as also I was fully known.
13. But now abideth faith, hope, love, these three; and the greatest of these is love.
Not to mock scripture, but respect is not one of the three options. :p

[luv]

luv's gonna get you for that.:rolleyes:




j/k
Actually, I laughed. Anything that makes me laugh, or smile, is good.

[Moooo]

Not to mock scripture, but respect is not one of the three options. :p

That's found in Aretha 16:5

Moooo

[greg63]

Not to mock scripture, but respect is not one of the three options. :p
Nah; I don't believe that’s mocking; you're point of view is valid. I was just outlining my reasoning for holding love with the regard that I do. :D

[007]

That's found in Aretha 16:5

Moooo


That chapter is big and loud.

[greg63]

That chapter is big and loud.

That's so everyone can hear it. :D

[007]

That's so everyone can hear it. :D


Eh? Whadya say? Wait, let me get my hearing aid in.....

[greg63]

Eh? Whadya say? Wait, let me get my hearing aid in.....

ROFL

MAKE SURE YA GOT A FRESH BATTERY IN IT!

[007]

ROFL

MAKE SURE YA GOT A FRESH BATTERY IN IT!


Damn man! Did ya really hafta yell? Now I really can't hear. :banghead:

[greg63]

I refuse to believe greg started a poll without an obligatory Gaz option.

This changes EVERYTHING.

Moooo

I can hardly believe it myself.

[Moooo]

I can hardly believe it myself.

I won't lie...

When I saw this, a single tear rolled down my cheek... ROFL

Moooo

[greg63]

I won't lie...

When I saw this, a single tear rolled down my cheek... ROFL

Moooo

...The sensitive type eh? ROFL

[Moooo]

...The sensitive type eh? ROFL

sometimes, you gotta let it roll..

Moooo

[greg63]

sometimes, you gotta let it roll..

Moooo

ROFL
That's it; let it all out...

[greg63]

Alright n00bs! What say you about the whole love vs respect topic discussed here? :D