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jlscorpio
06-03-2006, 06:41 AM
for a 50" screen size, which would you go with, price not being a factor?

'Hamas' Jenkins
06-03-2006, 06:50 AM
LCDs top out in the 40's last I knew, so they are probably out of the equation. I think a good DLP is more versatile across the color spectrum, and does a much better job of rendering black colors. However, DLP and Plasma both have the nasty problem of pixel death, and you have to have several of them go before your warranty will cover it. Samsung makes an unbelievable 50" DLP, and since you'll save 2-3,000 on it (even if price isn't a factor) you can use that extra skrill to buy an HD-DVD player or several hookers that you can then kill and store in the trunk of an Oldsmobile ;)

Kerberos
06-03-2006, 07:03 AM
http://www.samsung.com/Products/TV/lcdtv/index.asp

LCD's come in bigger than 40"

Here is a Samsung 57" Widescreen LCD HDTV.

Here is a 65" Sharp Aquos LCD TV

http://www.sharpusa.com/products/AQUOS/0,2338,,00.html

Goes for just under 13K on Ebay.

If price was no object I would go for the Aquos. They come in smaller sizes around what you are looking for. I have installed a few of the 32" widescreens and those have one of the BEST pictures I have ever seen.


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'Hamas' Jenkins
06-03-2006, 07:06 AM
http://www.samsung.com/Products/TV/lcdtv/index.asp

LCD's come in bigger than 40"

Here is a Samsung 57" Widescreen LCD HDTV.

Here is a 65" Sharp Aquos LCD TV

http://www.sharpusa.com/products/AQUOS/0,2338,,00.html

Goes for just under 13K on Ebay.

If price was no object I would go for the Aquos. They come in smaller sizes around what you are looking for. I have installed a few of the 32" widescreens and those have one of the BEST pictures I have ever seen.


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Wasn't one of the problems with making LCDs above the 50" threshold that they lose a lot of their efficiency?? Most 26-32" LCDs have the best picture you'll find in any TV, but the larger ones don't measure up.

Kerberos
06-03-2006, 10:01 AM
Wasn't one of the problems with making LCDs above the 50" threshold that they lose a lot of their efficiency?? Most 26-32" LCDs have the best picture you'll find in any TV, but the larger ones don't measure up.

That I cannot answer as I have not been in the retail bit in a long time.

You are correct that the 32" LCD seems to be leaps and bounds above the larger models in clarity. But I would like to think technology keeps getting better and better that soon a jumbotron/diamondvision will have HD capabilities that will astound most of us.

I myself would like to see a 65" LCD Aquos in person playing HD next to a 32" to compare.

I have a feeling that things are going to keep getting better and better.

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jlscorpio
06-03-2006, 11:11 AM
as of right now I'm leaning toward the Samsung HP-S5053 50" Plasma...

Valiant
06-05-2006, 12:21 AM
For the money and quality I like the DLP's

A good rear projection sony lcd is great also...

Miles
06-05-2006, 12:33 AM
Price not being a factor:

http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/pna/plasma/detail/page/0,,2076_278256761_277940811,00.html

Damn commatard filter

Miles
06-05-2006, 12:43 AM
www.pioneerelectronics.com/

Pioneer PDP-5060HD

Pioneer Elite PRO-1130HD

http://www.soundandvisionmag.com/article.asp?section_id=3&article_id=1218&page_number=1

KevB
06-05-2006, 11:35 AM
I've got a 50" plasma hanging on my wall at home, and I couldn't be happier. I sit down every night to watch TV with a smile on my face. The DLP's didn't have the viewing angle I wanted.....as you move high/low side to side, the picture becomes dim. It probably renders blacks better than a plasma, but I can't imagine it renders colors better.

If you want more info. than you could imagine, go to avsforum.com

jlscorpio
06-05-2006, 12:14 PM
just curious, what model do u have? Did u mount it or put it on a stand? Do u have cable or dish?

Lzen
06-05-2006, 01:18 PM
Popular Mechanics - HDTV Guidebook (http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/television/2146052.html?page=3&c=y)
Six Flavors of Hi-Def
HDTVs come in all shapes and sizes. Here's how to find the right one for your needs.

PLASMA Plasma displays are some of the largest out there: top-end models can be up to 80 in. diagonally. Older plasmas used to have problems with "burn in," but modern sets have largely solved that. Best for: Mounting a big screen on a wall.

LCD Liquid-crystal displays tend to provide exceptionally crisp images, although their ability to reproduce the darkest blacks can be less than optimal. Because large LCD flat-panels are expensive and difficult to make, LCD panels top out around 65 in. Best for: Getting a slim set at a good price.

REAR-PROJECTION DLP Digital Light Processing bounces images off an array of mirrors on a microchip through a spinning color wheel, which is then projected onto a screen. Some people complain of "rainbows" (strobing bands of color when these sets show bright colors on dark backgrounds). Best for: Good contrast and black reproduction.

REAR-PROJECTION LCD These displays project light through a small LCD panel (or panels), which then projects the image onto the built-in screen. Some of the same limitations regarding black levels on LCD flat-panels affect rear-projection LCDs. Best for: Big screen experience without "rainbow effect."

REAR-PROJECTION LCoS Sort of a hybrid of LCD and DLP, Liquid Crystal on Silicon TVs are very good at blending together pixels to avoid the "screen door" effect common to large-screen sets. Sony's SXRD and JVC's D-ILA are branded versions of LCoS. Best for: Seamless images that won't look "pixely."

CRT High-definition cathode ray tube TVs are generally thinner and have flatter screens than their analog counterparts. CRTs can provide stunning image quality, but need calibration to achieve the best results. Best for: Producing some of the finest images, though other technologies are catching up.

KevB
06-05-2006, 02:54 PM
just curious, what model do u have? Did u mount it or put it on a stand? Do u have cable or dish?

I bought the 50" Vizio from Costco. Costco has a great return policy, and you can't beat the price on this Vizio. I extensively researched this TV, as Vizio obviously isn't a household brand. I read 5 or 6 professional reviews, and all said it was outstanding value. It doesn't have all the bells and whistles that a $4K model would have, but the picture quality was comparable to the Panny and it fit my needs. The outstanding value at the time of the reviews was at a price of $2600. I bought it two weeks ago at Costco for just under $2K, a ridiculous value IMO. I also read hundreds of posts on this model at avsforum, dating back to the model's release.....I wanted to understand the problems that may/may not have plagued it. At this point, it sounds like the couple of early bugs have been worked out (loud fan noise being one) and I'm very happy thus far.

If I had the money, I'd buy a Panasonic or Pioneer, but for the price this can't be beat IMHO.

I bought a Peerless tilt mount on the net for around $120, and put it on the wall. I ran the wire behind the wall, so it's a clean looking setup.

Bowser
02-17-2007, 10:19 PM
Anybody have new opinions on this matter eight months later? I am soon going to be in the market for a hi-def TV, and I think I am leaning towards an LCD, around 50-55 in.

jlscorpio
02-18-2007, 05:16 AM
I am now sold on a 55" sony SXRD rear projection. It's all personal pref, in the end.

Bowser
02-18-2007, 10:30 PM
Checked out a 52" Sony LCD at Nebraska Furniture Mart for roughly $4400. They had to ask me to leave the area so I wouldn't drool all over it and short it out. The dude working out there told me they have a 70" that retails for 30K. I don't think I believe that.

I think Best Buy has a 50" LCD for under $3600. Haven't checked Circuit City yet. Maybe Valiant can just shove one in a dumpster for me sometime. Heh.

Miles
02-18-2007, 11:47 PM
Checked out a 52" Sony LCD at Nebraska Furniture Mart for roughly $4400. They had to ask me to leave the area so I wouldn't drool all over it and short it out. The dude working out there told me they have a 70" that retails for 30K. I don't think I believe that.

I think Best Buy has a 50" LCD for under $3600. Haven't checked Circuit City yet. Maybe Valiant can just shove one in a dumpster for me sometime. Heh.

Here is that 70" for 33k. Pretty crazy.

Link (http://www.sonystyle.com/is-bin/,INTERSHOP.enfinity/eCS/Store/en/-/USD/SY_DisplayProductInformation-Start?ProductSKU=KDL70XBR3&Dept=tvvideo&CategoryName=tv_flatpanel_46to52)

Miles
02-18-2007, 11:57 PM
Samsung, Sony XBR and Sharp Aquios are the leaders in high resolution LCD's. I personally prefer the Sony XBR with the Samsung 1080p models being a very close second.

Sony 46 (http://www.amazon.com/Sony-KDL-46XBR2-Bravia-1080p-HDTV/dp/B000H6I7EI/sr=8-2/qid=1171863681/ref=pd_bbs_sr_2/104-5701853-8491123?ie=UTF8&s=electronics)

Sony 52 (http://www.amazon.com/Sony-KDL-52XBR2-Bravia-1080p-HDTV/dp/B000JJNMMA/sr=8-6/qid=1171863681/ref=pd_bbs_6/104-5701853-8491123?ie=UTF8&s=electronics)

Samsung 52 (http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-LNS5296D-1080p-LCD-HDTV/dp/B000J4I9DC/sr=1-1/qid=1171864196/ref=pd_bbs_1/104-5701853-8491123?ie=UTF8&s=electronics)

Samsung 46 (http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-LNS4696D-1080p-LCD-HDTV/dp/B000GQ9LM6/sr=1-2/qid=1171864125/ref=pd_bbs_sr_2/104-5701853-8491123?ie=UTF8&s=electronics)

Bowser
02-19-2007, 09:19 AM
Here is that 70" for 33k. Pretty crazy.

Link (http://www.sonystyle.com/is-bin/,INTERSHOP.enfinity/eCS/Store/en/-/USD/SY_DisplayProductInformation-Start?ProductSKU=KDL70XBR3&Dept=tvvideo&CategoryName=tv_flatpanel_46to52)

Good lord. I didn't believe the kid when he told me it was 30K. Insane.

Bowser
02-19-2007, 09:26 AM
Samsung, Sony XBR and Sharp Aquios are the leaders in high resolution LCD's. I personally prefer the Sony XBR with the Samsung 1080p models being a very close second.

Sony 46 (http://www.amazon.com/Sony-KDL-46XBR2-Bravia-1080p-HDTV/dp/B000H6I7EI/sr=8-2/qid=1171863681/ref=pd_bbs_sr_2/104-5701853-8491123?ie=UTF8&s=electronics)

Sony 52 (http://www.amazon.com/Sony-KDL-52XBR2-Bravia-1080p-HDTV/dp/B000JJNMMA/sr=8-6/qid=1171863681/ref=pd_bbs_6/104-5701853-8491123?ie=UTF8&s=electronics)

Samsung 52 (http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-LNS5296D-1080p-LCD-HDTV/dp/B000J4I9DC/sr=1-1/qid=1171864196/ref=pd_bbs_1/104-5701853-8491123?ie=UTF8&s=electronics)

Samsung 46 (http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-LNS4696D-1080p-LCD-HDTV/dp/B000GQ9LM6/sr=1-2/qid=1171864125/ref=pd_bbs_sr_2/104-5701853-8491123?ie=UTF8&s=electronics)

Thanks for the link.

Yep, the Sony 52 is the one I'm eyeballing. We may end up with a 50 or 46, just to be more cost effective in the end.

Silock
02-19-2007, 09:30 AM
Haven't we had this thread already?

Just go with the SXRD.

Kerberos
02-19-2007, 10:16 AM
I am now sold on a 55" sony SXRD rear projection. It's all personal pref, in the end.


I would definately do some customer feedback search before buying a SONY anything.

SONY has been living so high on the hog for so long that they are now putting out some crappy stuff and still getting top $ for it.

Really good friend owns an Electronics repair shop here and the very FIRST BRAND he will tell anyone that listens to stay away from is SONY.

This guys repairs TV's not sell them.

If I am not mistaken, and I could be, isn't the Sony SXRD series one of those that people are complaining about the "GREEN BLOB" syndrome connected with the Screen having streaks of green running accross it?

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jlscorpio
02-20-2007, 03:46 AM
I've read on avsforum.com that the infamous "green blob" usually only occurs when watching black & white programs, if at all

rad
02-21-2007, 07:49 AM
I just bought a little LCD and it looks like crap. I'm going to the cable company to get an HD box. Right now I have a digital box hooked to it via coax and it's almost worse than my tube TV. Am I doing something wrong, or should I return this TV?

http://www.staples.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/StaplesProductDisplay?errorUrl=zipcode&storeId=10001&jspStoreDir=Staples&zipCode=12440&ts=1172065544004&partNumber=664477&catalogId=2&langId=-1&ddkey=StaplesZipCodeAdd

Joe Seahawk
02-21-2007, 09:13 AM
I've read on avsforum.com that the infamous "green blob" usually only occurs when watching black & white programs, if at all


I have a 2005 November build SXRD the picture is fantastic and I mean really fantastic, but I did have an issue with the green blob.

Sony replaced the light engine with a upgraded version and the problem is solved.. the pic is perfect again..

From all my research the problem seems to only occur on the late 2005 and early 2006 versions of the SXRD XBR1, the XBR2 does not have the light engine problem (from what I could tell)

Even with the light engine issue, I do not regret my purchase for a second.. The picture is fantastic..

Kerberos
02-21-2007, 09:55 AM
I just bought a little LCD and it looks like crap. I'm going to the cable company to get an HD box. Right now I have a digital box hooked to it via coax and it's almost worse than my tube TV. Am I doing something wrong, or should I return this TV?

http://www.staples.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/StaplesProductDisplay?errorUrl=zipcode&storeId=10001&jspStoreDir=Staples&zipCode=12440&ts=1172065544004&partNumber=664477&catalogId=2&langId=-1&ddkey=StaplesZipCodeAdd


I would definately try to hook it up to a newer HD box from your cable company via HDMI hookups.

Using coax to go from your HD box to your HDTV is a waste of time and $.

My.02

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Bowser
02-21-2007, 10:02 AM
Haven't we had this thread already?



This IS that thread.

rad
02-21-2007, 05:05 PM
I would definately try to hook it up to a newer HD box from your cable company via HDMI hookups.

Using coax to go from your HD box to your HDTV is a waste of time and $.

My.02

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Would that make even non-HD channels look better? What about the 5 plug Y Pb Pr LR hookup as opposed to HDMI? Does that matter?

HMc
02-21-2007, 09:06 PM
HDMI >>>>> all the others (excpet DVI) cos it's digital.

phisherman
02-21-2007, 10:06 PM
HDMI is superior because 1. the signals are uncompressed, and 2. it carries audio and video in one cable, no need to mess with bundles of cables

bp

007
02-21-2007, 11:54 PM
That I cannot answer as I have not been in the retail bit in a long time.

You are correct that the 32" LCD seems to be leaps and bounds above the larger models in clarity. But I would like to think technology keeps getting better and better that soon a jumbotron/diamondvision will have HD capabilities that will astound most of us.

I myself would like to see a 65" LCD Aquos in person playing HD next to a 32" to compare.

I have a feeling that things are going to keep getting better and better.

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I will be in the market for an HDTV in two years. Looking forward to what will be out there.

jlscorpio
02-22-2007, 04:22 AM
Sony's releasing the KDS-A2020 rear projection series next month, and that's what I'm likely getting this summer. They're the same as the A2000 series, just in all black

rad
02-22-2007, 06:55 AM
HDMI >>>>> all the others (excpet DVI) cos it's digital.

OK, but do non-HD channels look better? My kids watch Noggin alot.

HMc
02-22-2007, 06:57 AM
yeah, but not alot. any analogue connection (i.e those that arent HDMI) is gonna result in signal loss.