ESPN doing nfl qb power rankings

[NJ Chief Fan]

on right now

32 browns
31 niners
30 CHARGERS
29 bills
28 raiders
27 titans
26 jets
25
24
23
22 cards


21-11 to com later...i missed 23-25

[FringeNC]

the Chargers thing is still a mystery to me...how often does a playoff-caliber team let go of their pro bowl QB?

Warner #22..that's a joke

[JBucc]

Warner #22..that's a jokeToo high or too low?

[FringeNC]

Too high or too low?

too low (or too high, depending on how you look at these numbers)...he had some really good games last year. I'd rather have Warner than Plummer.

[NJ Chief Fan]

where do you think trent/chiefs are going to land, anything over 7 is poop and a lie

[milkman]

where do you think trent/chiefs are going to land, anything over 7 is poop and a lie

It's ESPN.

My guess about 10, maybe 11.

[Bowser]

where do you think trent/chiefs are going to land, anything over 7 is poop and a lie

We're not an East Coast team. If he lands in the top 10, I'd be mildly suprised (even though he's had 4,000+ yards passing three straight years, and he's led our offense to a top 5 rating since he's been here).

[JBucc]

Is this just starters or all QB's? Either way we should be close to the top five.

[NJ Chief Fan]

Is this just starters or all QB's? Either way we should be close to the top five.

its teams

[NJ Chief Fan]

part 2 on now

[Bowser]

where do you think trent/chiefs are going to land, anything over 7 is poop and a lie

I'm guessing Plummer will be from 5-7. These polls are usually based on how a certain team finished the prior year. [/duh]

[NJ Chief Fan]

nawlins worse then jacksonville

[milkman]

So this ranking isn't just the starter, but includes team depth as well.

With that in mind, the Chiefs aren't top 10.

14-15 would be just about right.

[NJ Chief Fan]

16 giants
15 packers

[Demonpenz]

they said green would be higher if he fixed his fumbling problems

[NJ Chief Fan]

14 redskins

[NJ Chief Fan]

13 baltimore

[NJ Chief Fan]

12 miami

[NJ Chief Fan]

11 rams

[NJ Chief Fan]

10-1 on later on on sports center

[chefsos]

its teams
I'm not watching it, but that's what I thought, which reinforces FringeNC's contention that AZ should be higher when you consider Leinart (though a rookie, I reckon he can play a little bit).

Also, being ESPN, I'm willing to bet that the Donks are judged by the combo of Plummer/Cutler, and the Chiefs by Trent/????.

[JBucc]

I'm not watching it, but that's what I thought, which reinforces FringeNC's contention that AZ should be higher when you consider Leinart (though a rookie, I reckon he can play a little bit).

Also, being ESPN, I'm willing to bet that the Donks are judged by the combo of Plummer/Cutler, and the Chiefs by Trent/Croyle Printers Huard baby!!!!!!!they're all so good we can't decide who to keep!

[chefsos]

they're all so good we can't decide who to keep!
Maybe a round of Celebrity Deathmatch is in order when they get to River Falls.

[NJ Chief Fan]

part 3 on soon

[Coach]

Plummer at 10 and Big Ben at 9.

[JBucc]

We're number 5!

[Coach]

Falcons at 7. Philly at 6.

Greenn at number 5.

[Mr. Laz]

CHiefs are 5

[NJ Chief Fan]

10 DONKS! HAHAHA
9 steelers?!?!
8 bungles
7 atlanta vicks
6 iggles
5 KC!!!!
4 panthers?
3 seattle
mangina or brady




2 colts
1 pats

[SPchief]

Suck on that manning

[NJ Chief Fan]

green should be #3

[JBucc]

SportsNation(aka idiot fans) has the Chiefs at 13 and Denver at 12

[Mr. Laz]

green should be #3
they are judging at a team ... not just Green


if croyle or printings show potiential are QB ranking will jump significantly next year.

[AndChiefs]

What is the total Sportsnation ratings?

[NJ Chief Fan]

like the pats backup is any good or seattles back up or panthers or colts scorgi is any good

[NJ Chief Fan]

i think they said that they are going to be doing the power rankings more often, they are going to do offenses defenses and all that, with it all ending on july 6th will a sb winner

[FringeNC]

Vick at #7 is the biggest joke of them all. Forgetting the backups for a minute (if those count, which I can't imagine they do given our ranking)...how in the hell do you give the edge to Vick over Carson Palmer?

[Mr. Laz]

Vick at #7 is the biggest joke of them all

this is true...


so far he's just a running back taking snaps as far as i can tell.

[JBucc]

i think they said that they are going to be doing the power rankings more often, they are going to do offenses defenses and all that, with it all ending on july 6th will a sb winner
they already have polls up for RB, pass defense, and pass catchers.

[JBucc]

Vick at #7 is the biggest joke of them all. Forgetting the backups for a minute (if those count, which I can't imagine they do given our ranking)...how in the hell do you give the edge to Vick over Carson Palmer?The first thing they mentioned when ATL came up was Matt Schaub

[AndChiefs]

Yeah running back tomorrow.

[Mr. Laz]

The first thing they mentioned when ATL came up was Matt Schaub

i'm not sure their team might not be better in the long run by trading Vick and starting Schaub.


i imagine they can get something substantial for Vick ... and imo for an offense to truly be productive you need to have a QB that specializes in Passing the ball.

[milkman]

Vick at #7 is the biggest joke of them all. Forgetting the backups for a minute (if those count, which I can't imagine they do given our ranking)...how in the hell do you give the edge to Vick over Carson Palmer?

The ranking is based on each team's depth, which is why I thought that the Chiefs would come in at 14 or 15.

[milkman]

i'm not sure the team might not be better in the long by trading Vick and starting Schaub.


i imagine they can something substantial for Vick ... and imo for an offense to truly be productive you need to have a QB that specializes in Passing the ball.

Hey, maybe we can trade them Printers for Shaub!








OK, I'll step back into reality now

[Mr. Laz]

Hey, maybe we can trade them Printers for Shaub!

OK, I'll step back into reality now

Then trade Huard for Julius Peppers


yea Chiefs!! PBJ PBJ

[milkman]

Then trade Huard for Julius Peppers


yea Chiefs!! PBJ PBJ

Hey, I only stepped out the door of reality onto the roof of fantasy.

You jumped off the freakin' building!

[Mr. Laz]

Hey, I only stepped out the door of reality onto the roof of fantasy.

You jumped off the freakin' building!

if you gonna go ... go big!


http://www.kidscamp-uk.com/images/kids_jump_big.jpg

[FringeNC]

The first thing they mentioned when ATL came up was Matt Schaub

What's the expected number of snaps Matt Schaub takes?

[chief4life]

we were 5th i can live with that

Top 5 qbs were

1. Patriots
2. Colts
3. Seahawks
4. Panthers
5. Chiefs

[milkman]

What's the expected number of snaps Matt Schaub takes?

89.

:shrug:

[FringeNC]

89.

:shrug:

My guess is very few, which is why rating Atlanta at #7 is a joke.

[fan4ever]

Anyone see where that's listed on the internet yet? I went to the ESPN site and couldn't find. I had an argument two weeks ago with a dork who thinks he's a sports genius . . . called Green a barely over average QB . . . I'd love to give him a link to go to.

[milkman]

My guess is very few, which is why rating Atlanta at #7 is a joke.

I don't know.

When you consider Vick's propensity to run, and the fact that he's not big, and has missed games because of that, it would seem to me that Shaub is an important piece for the Falcons.

[Thig Lyfe]

holy crap... I just realized that I had a dream a few nights ago that Peyton Manning died... weird...

[Sam Hall]

I think the top five are pretty much identical. The Seahawks, Panthers, and Chiefs could easily be mixed around. Of course they had the Pats and Colts at the top. We're looking at five Pro Bowl quarterbacks and five teams that would be in some trouble if that guy got hurt.

[Moooo]

How did a QB squad led by Green get 5th, and one led by Brees get somewhere in the low teens?

I agree with where Green is, but I also think Brees, new team or not, should be in top 10.

And although I know some of this is based on backups, we have f'n Huard. I fail to see how that plays much of a factor...

Moooo

[CHENZ A!]

How did a QB squad led by Green get 5th, and one led by Brees get somewhere in the low teens?

I agree with where Green is, but I also think Brees, new team or not, should be in top 10.

And although I know some of this is based on backups, we have f'n Huard. I fail to see how that plays much of a factor...

Moooo

The analysts kept saying "this is where they stand right now", so I assume that Brees dropped a little because of his injury, same with Palmer and Culpepper.

[Amnorix]

like the pats backup is any good or seattles back up or panthers or colts scorgi is any good

The Pats backup thing is interesting. He looked DARN good in the one game he played last year, but he's an enigma, since he has no college experience to speak of either.

But athletic as heck, and seems capable. Here's hoping I never have to find out how good he is though.

[Amnorix]

we were 5th i can live with that

Top 5 qbs were

1. Patriots
2. Colts
3. Seahawks
4. Panthers
5. Chiefs

I don't think that's too unreasonable at all. I kinda/sorta question the Panthers at 4. I liked Delhomme alot in '03, but he had a pretty mediocre year in '04. Didn't pay much attention to what happened last year. Nor, of course, do I know (or care) about their backup situation.

Let me put it this way -- I agree with 1-3 and 5. 4 I just don't know enough about to agree

[Amnorix]

We're not an East Coast team. If he lands in the top 10, I'd be mildly suprised (even though he's had 4,000+ yards passing three straight years, and he's led our offense to a top 5 rating since he's been here).

Does the fact that KC came in at #5 mean I can stop hearing about some of the "east coast bias" whining that is relentless on here?

I mean, Jesus, the Patriots win all these Super Bowls, yet put no more than 5 players in the Pro Bowl any year over the last 5. If we were in KC, I'm sure it'd be chalked up to "East Coast bias".

It's relentless, and absurd. Denver's not on the East Coast either, and they get their schlongs sucked by national media relentlessly.

Not to be unduly harsh, but your sports teams would probably get more national love if the Royals didn't suck worse than any team in baseball, and if the Chiefs had won a playoff game since Clinton's inaugural year. Seriously, I don't mean to be a jerk, but it seems I'm seeing alot more of this "East Coast bias", and to those of us not in the KC region, it just comes across as whining.

[milkman]

Does the fact that KC came in at #5 mean I can stop hearing about some of the "east coast bias" whining that is relentless on here?

I mean, Jesus, the Patriots win all these Super Bowls, yet put no more than 5 players in the Pro Bowl any year over the last 5. If we were in KC, I'm sure it'd be chalked up to "East Coast bias".

It's relentless, and absurd. Denver's not on the East Coast either, and they get their schlongs sucked by national media relentlessly.

Not to be unduly harsh, but your sports teams would probably get more national love if the Royals didn't suck worse than any team in baseball, and if the Chiefs had won a playoff game since Clinton's inaugural year. Seriously, I don't mean to be a jerk, but it seems I'm seeing alot more of this "East Coast bias", and to those of us not in the KC region, it just comes across as whining.

I've never understood this whole East Coast bias mentality.

The national media are, for the most part, bandwagoners.

[jspchief]

Hey, maybe we can trade them Printers for Shaub!








OK, I'll step back into reality nowWant to hear the worst part? We could have had Schaub instead of Bigfoot Wilson.

[milkman]

Want to hear the worst part? We could have had Schaub instead of Bigfoot Wilson.

Yeah, I think you've pointed that out before.

But hey, at least they finally did draft a QB, in Croyle, who gives us hope for the future at the position.

[Amnorix]

I've never understood this whole East Coast bias mentality.

The national media are, for the most part, bandwagoners.

Precisely. Even New York gets ignored if the team stinks. The Mets were relegated to national media oblivion for years and years, and the Knicks might get just an itsy-bit more attention than a non-New York team of similar suckitude, but to say they get no love is certainly an understatement.

And how much time is spent on the Celtics in the national media? As much as it has deserved for 10+ years -- none.

Bandwagoning is what they do, not East Coast bias.

[JBucc]

Precisely. Even New York gets ignored if the team stinks. The Mets were relegated to national media oblivion for years and years, and the Knicks might get just an itsy-bit more attention than a non-New York team of similar suckitude, but to say they get no love is certainly an understatement.

And how much time is spent on the Celtics in the national media? As much as it has deserved for 10+ years -- none.

Bandwagoning is what they do, not East Coast bias.Like we care what you say. You have an obvious East Coast bias:p

[dtebbe]

I mean, Jesus, the Patriots win all these Super Bowls, yet put no more than 5 players in the Pro Bowl any year over the last 5. If we were in KC, I'm sure it'd be chalked up to "East Coast bias".

It's relentless, and absurd. Denver's not on the East Coast either, and they get their schlongs sucked by national media relentlessly.



This is the downside to playing well with average players.

DT

[chefsos]

I think the "East Coast Bias" is real, but also that it's a double-edged sword. No midwest or west team gets ripped as brutally as, say, the Jets or Knicks or Eagles when they suck. Hell, I think that ESPN played a large role in running the Hartford Whalers outta town.