Willie Roaf retires

[penguinz]

They just said it on 610.

[Fire Me Boy!]

http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansascity/15145272.htm

[FloridaMan88]

Looks like Peterson screwed up BIG time if it is true Roaf informed the Chiefs WEEKS ago of his retirement

Unreal


http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansascity/15145272.htm

Chiefs' Roaf retires
By ADAM TEICHER
The Kansas City Star
RIVER FALLS, Wis. | Tackle Willie Roaf, the foundation of one of the NFL’s best offensive lines, has retired.

Roaf wasn’t with the Chiefs when they reported for training camp on Thursday. Roaf told The Kansas City Star this morning by telephone that he had told president/general Carl Peterson and coach Herm Edwards of his plans weeks ago and even sent the Chiefs a letter declaring his intentions.

“I guess they want me to reconsider,’’ Roaf told The Star. “I’m solid on retiring and going back to school.’’

Roaf, 36, was emphatic in the spring that he would play this season. But today he said lingering hamstring and knee trouble led to his decision.

Roaf missed six games last season because of hamstring problems. He missed half of the 2001 season while playing for New Orleans after tearing knee ligaments.

Roaf joined the Chiefs in a trade from the Saints in 2002 and was a major factor in their offensive success. His retirement leaves a significant hole at left tackle.

Edwards said Thursday the Chiefs would use Jordan Black at left tackle and Kyle Turley at right tackle when practice begins this afternoon.

Roaf played 13 NFL seasons and made the Pro Bowl in all but two of them. Despite playing on only teams to reach the playoffs, Roaf will likely be selected for the Pro Football Hall of Fame.

[penguinz]

Chiefs' Roaf retires
By ADAM TEICHER
The Kansas City Star

RIVER FALLS, Wis. | Tackle Willie Roaf, the foundation of one of the NFL’s best offensive lines, has retired.

Roaf wasn’t with the Chiefs when they reported for training camp on Thursday. Roaf told The Kansas City Star this morning by telephone that he had told president/general Carl Peterson and coach Herm Edwards of his plans weeks ago and even sent the Chiefs a letter declaring his intentions.

“I guess they want me to reconsider,’’ Roaf told The Star. “I’m solid on retiring and going back to school.’’

Roaf, 36, was emphatic in the spring that he would play this season. But today he said lingering hamstring and knee trouble led to his decision.

Roaf missed six games last season because of hamstring problems. He missed half of the 2001 season while playing for New Orleans after tearing knee ligaments.

Roaf joined the Chiefs in a trade from the Saints in 2002 and was a major factor in their offensive success. His retirement leaves a significant hole at left tackle.

Edwards said Thursday the Chiefs would use Jordan Black at left tackle and Kyle Turley at right tackle when practice begins this afternoon.

Roaf played 13 NFL seasons and made the Pro Bowl in all but two of them. Despite playing on only teams to reach the playoffs, Roaf will likely be selected for the Pro Football Hall of Fame.

[Iowanian]

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO RETIREMENT!

Hoooraaaaaaaaaaay Beer!

http://www.offthewallonline.com/images-paperboy/03-05/red-stripe.jpg

[petegz28]

CRAP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! CRAP CRAP CRAP CRAP CRAP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[ChiefsfaninPA]

:deevee::mad::cuss::deevee::mad::cuss::deevee::mad::cuss:

[cdcox]

Don't mind if your fingers ache. That's just the Super Bowl window slamming down on them.

[Iowanian]

Thats very, very bad.

The only positive is instead of coming to TC and getting hurt week 1, the Chiefs have time to give the reps to someone else.


Interstate 65 is now opening on the Left side.

[DaKCMan AP]

commence planet meltdown in 3....2....

[Frazod]

Good thing we've got an actual defense again, eh?

F#ck :banghead:

[petegz28]

:cuss: :cuss: :cuss: :cuss: :banghead: :banghead: :cuss: :cuss: :cuss: :cuss:

[BigRedChief]

:cuss:

We'd better hope Turley is up for the job or Trent's backside just got exposed. And if he goes down what do we have? Rookies.:shake:

[morphius]

Well, that sure took all the wind out of the sails...

[Husky4506]

This makes letting go of T-Rich even worse!

[petegz28]

We be in trouble now

[Lzen]

WTF? I thought he was in the best shape he'd been in in several years. At least that's what they were saying at the end of last season. Man, nothing can ever go perfectly smoothly for the Chiefs. :banghead:

[ct]

They're saying Black at LT, Turley at RT on 610.

[Warrior5]

Board implosion & server meltdown in 3, 2, 1...

[ct]

Wonder if Jason Dunn can play tackle.

[the Talking Can]

feels like there's a blender in my anus

[Frazod]

I wonder if Jason Whitlock can play tackle. :deevee:

[alanm]

I guess we move on now. :(

[Eleazar]

In before the server crashes! WooWoo

[the Talking Can]

WOW

[alanm]

I hope either Turley can make it back or start grooming Svitek. No way do I want Black to take Roafs place. :shake:

[cdcox]

I guess we move on now. :(

Don't be ridiculous. All has ended.

[KCTitus]

Why didnt Carl sign any LT's in FA? Dammit Carl!

[Chiefnj]

Looks like OC Jesus bailed at the right time.

[Demonpenz]

better get croyle read. No way trent lasts 6 games. Teams are going to be overloading that side

[Skyy God]

I hope either Turley can make it back or start grooming Svitek. No way do I want Black to take Roafs place. :shake:

Amen. We don't win 10 with Black starting.

[MOhillbilly]

booooo hiiissssssssssssss.

[HemiEd]

This sucks big time, ****!


Moving on, why do they see 'ole Black as the left Tackle? Anyone have an idea?

[Baby Lee]

Ty's sitting somewhere saying "WTF did I just sign?!?!"

[Iowanian]

I wonder if Rich Scanlon can fit into a 70's number?

[BigRedChief]

Okay if King Carl knew about this for months why didn't he go get someone? any one? Turley was to replace Welbourne and play RT correct?

He knows in the spring that Big Willie is retiring. Was he convinced he could talk him out of it? Why not cover your bases with a good proven backup?

Our offense has looked like chit when Big Willie was out of the lineup.

:cuss: this ruins my sunny mood about this season.

quick someone striaghten me out before I commit suicide or at least get bummed out.

[ROYC75]

My day has been ruined, ruined I tell ya.

[Bwana]

If they stand pat on this line up, we better give the 2nd string QB a lot of rep time because Trent is going to get killed.

[Chiefnj]

But, but, Carl and Herm said he's just missing time for personal reasons. They wouldn't deceive us, would they?

[cdcox]

This sucks big time, ****!


Moving on, why do they see 'ole Black as the left Tackle? Anyone have an idea?

Because coaches are idiots that can't see what is apparent to every fan.



Or the alternatives really suck.

[HemiEd]

quick someone striaghten me out before I commit suicide or at least get bummed out.

nah, it is justified.

[Iowanian]

How fast can Printers Run?


So much for Ari seeing him in the gym.

[cdcox]

But, but, Carl and Herm said he's just missing time for personal reasons. They wouldn't deceive us, would they?

I'm sure they told Roaf to take his time making a decision and that they asked him to reconsider the first few times he told them.

[Eleazar]

Well, Svitek pimps, will see if you know what you're talking about.

[kcxiv]

At least Sims looks like he came to camp in shape.


This sux about Roaf. I kinda had a feeling this was going to happen. They are going to have to run the shit out of LJ now. lol.

[Frazod]

Because coaches are idiots that can't see what is apparent to every fan.



Or the alternatives really suck.

I guess we could just not put anybody there and replace the arrowheads on Trent's helmet with bullseyes. That would only be slightly worse.

SHIT :cuss:

[Demonpenz]

the chiefs shouldn't have signed law. They are going 8-8 this year just enough to keep fans buying tickets. No way this team does better than that. I would have tried to rebuild this team for a run down the road. Thats why i have been so against hali. I wanted them to take the best available player and move on because the lineup now sucks.

[Baby Lee]

Here's a silly little riddle.

How do you go from SB aspirant to the Texans in their inaugural year in 24 hrs?

[KCTitus]

Okay if King Carl knew about this for months why didn't he go get someone? any one? Turley was to replace Welbourne and play RT correct?

He knows in the spring that Big Willie is retiring. Was he convinced he could talk him out of it? Why not cover your bases with a good proven backup?

quick someone striaghten me out before I commit suicide or at least get bummed out.

You're incorrect. Roaf planned to return in the spring, and notified the team 'weeks', not months ago.

I dont know how many LT's were handy over the last few weeks.

[Bowser]

Well, shit. Our line is what brought us the little success we've had the past few years, and the biggest piece of the line is gone.

Jordan Black at left tackle? We're cooked.

[Eleazar]

You're incorrect. Roaf planned to return in the spring, and notified the team 'weeks', not months ago.

I dont know how many LT's were handy over the last few weeks.

SHUT UP IT'S CARL'S FAULT HE DIDN'T SIGN DEBRISKSHAW!!!111

[Hootie]

God damn I hope Svitek can be as good as advertised...last thing I want to see is a full season with Jordan Black at LT. What a huge loss.

[Chief Faithful]

Cruz and Johnson will have opportunity to demonstrate their pass blocking skills.

[the Talking Can]

SHUT UP IT'S CARL'S FAULT HE DIDN'T SIGN DEBRISKSHAW!!!111

ROFL

[Chiefnj]

You're incorrect. Roaf planned to return in the spring, and notified the team 'weeks', not months ago.

I dont know how many LT's were handy over the last few weeks.

It was a deep draft for tackles.

In any event I foresee the following today:

[ring, ring]

Welbourn: Hello.
CP: John, old buddy, old friend. There was an accounting error by one of the summer interns and it seems like we do have a few more million for you this year old chum.

[BigRedChief]

At least Sims looks like he came to camp in shape.
First day of camp photo
http://www.uwrf.edu/chiefs/photogallery/060727arrival/060727-Arrival-309.jpg

[morphius]

It was a deep draft for tackles.

In any event I foresee the following today:

[ring, ring]

Welbourn: Hello.
CP: John, old buddy, old friend. There was an accounting error by one of the summer interns and it seems like we do have a few more million for you this year old chum.
Why, Welborn was an okay RT, but we have a lot of RT on the team, we need a LT.

[ct]

I'm sure signing Kyle Turley was for exactly this situation. If Roaf decided after the draft and the meat of FA was done, there just weren't many other options. No doubt they were hoping Willie would reconsider and come back.

Any trade options out there?

[Demonpenz]

anyone know why carl didn't fess up sooner? He wanted to sell those season tickets

[rad]

****!!!!!!!

[kcxiv]

First day of camp photo
http://www.uwrf.edu/chiefs/photogallery/060727arrival/060727-Arrival-309.jpgyeah, i seen that lastnight, Its why i said at least he came into shape! he doesnt look like he is 30 llbs overweight for a DT.

[BigRedChief]

anyone know why carl didn't fess up sooner? He wanted to sell those season tickets

Single game tickets went on sale to the public this week. I'm sure that had nothing to do with it though.:rolleyes:

[chagrin]

I am not sold at all on Jordan Black as a full time starter, SHIT! Carl better have a fuggin plan to fill that spot!

[DiaperBoy27]

f*ck


we're f*cked


we're f*cked



f*ck

[teedubya]

CAUTION!

Classic ChiefsPlanet Implosion in progress.

[Iowanian]

Turley hasn't played for a couple of years, comes into camp rusty and undersized with a bad neck.....

Welborne Retired...and I don't think could come back if he wanted.

Roaf, Retired.

Shields is on his last legs.

Trich is gone.


The Defense had better improve ALOT.

[ROYC75]

It was a deep draft for tackles.

In any event I foresee the following today:

[ring, ring]

Welbourn: Hello.
CP: John, old buddy, old friend. There was an accounting error by one of the summer interns and it seems like we do have a few more million for you this year old chum.


While they are at that, tell Willie we need an extra LT, a backup if you may. Black will get killed out there.

[Warrior5]

Svitek's chance to excel...hope he's all he was hyped up to be before getting injured last year.

Guess Carl has some $ now to give Kennison.

[KCTitus]

It was a deep draft for tackles.

In any event I foresee the following today:

[ring, ring]

Welbourn: Hello.
CP: John, old buddy, old friend. There was an accounting error by one of the summer interns and it seems like we do have a few more million for you this year old chum.

That's unfortunate...I was concerned about the OL going into the draft, but KC continued to throw picks at the D. I guess the fact that Roaf was emphatic about returning in the spring didnt worry them much.

[BigRedChief]

Welborne Retired...and I don't think could come back if he wanted.


Rhonda was on 610 this am wondering why Welbourne was on the current Chiefs roster. Apparently he never filed his retirement papers with the NFL.

[Demonpenz]

This means we will have to run more swing passes and draw plays on 3rd down to play safe.

[beavis]

If there was one player I'd think we couldn't live without, it'd be Roaf.

I just went from mildly optomistic, to very pessimistic about the season.

[Ultra Peanut]

I knew things were going too well!

Kheeeeeeee-rist.

[the Talking Can]

so, is Roaf's salary off the books immediately?

does this free up any cash?

[Lzen]

With their 1st round pick in the 2007 NFL Draft, the
Kansas City Chiefs select LT __________ from the University of _________

[jlscorpio]

HEY, our offense just got younger!!!

[PastorMikH]

This sucks. Green is a completely different QB when Big Willy is in there. W/O him, Green gets real jumpy and starts forcing things.

Thanks for the memories Willie. Sure wished you'd stuck it out another year though.

[Demonpenz]

wow i really wish they would have kept beltran now.

[morphius]

so, is Roaf's salary off the books immediately?

does this free up any cash?
retired basically works the same as cut, split it up over a couple years, blah, blah, blah.

[KCFalcon59]

****

[Eleazar]

Single game tickets went on sale to the public this week.

No they didn't.

[Ultra Peanut]

HEY, our offense just got younger!!!ROFL

[KCTitus]

With their 1st round pick in the 2007 NFL Draft, the
Kansas City Chiefs select LT __________ from the University of _________

Cmon, Lzen, get into the spirit...it should be:

"With the 1st pick in the 2007 NFL Draft, the Kansas City Chiefs select..."

[teedubya]

HEY, our offense just got younger!!!

very optimistic! I like your style! heh.

[Demonpenz]

with laws contract around our neck like an albotross looks like this is the team we will see in the next couple years. There won't be any money to do anything.

[ROYC75]

Anybody know if Kevin Sampson can play @ LT ?

Got to be better than Black.

[BigRedChief]

No they didn't.

My bad. It's next Monday they go on sale.

[patteeu]

LJ can't catch a break. He better get real angry if he wants to compensate.

[patteeu]

Maybe this is all about more money and missing training camp [/wishful thinking]

[Gonzo]

Buy your 2006-7 KC Chiefs T-Shirts here for only 9.95!
And if you act fast we will throw in a free ice pick to shove up your pee hole!

[PastorMikH]

This really stinks. Is there ANYONE out there that we can bring in at this point? I really have my doubts with anyone currently on the roster.

[shakesthecat]

Crap! I knew this day was gonna get here eventually, but I really thought Roaf would play another year.

Let's hope Carl has an ace up his sleave.

[Chiefnj]

Now the loss of T-Rich's blocking ability stings a bit more, don't it?

[Demonpenz]

all this while George Bush just sits back and lets his cronies enjoy their money

[Fire Me Boy!]

How come my thread got merged... mine had more posts in it. :banghead:

I mean, come on... it was nearly a 100-thread post already!

[BigRedChief]

Now the loss of T-Rich's blocking ability stings a bit more, don't it?

And we lost him because he signed with the vikes for $1.4 million. Looks like a bargain now doesn't it.

[ck_IN]

<i>George Bush just sits back and lets his cronies enjoy their money</i>

That's right! Bush lied, Roaf retired! I wonder what Chris Mathews has to say?

[RockChalk]

good lord people. this is not the end of the season. i do believe we still have a whole training camp to go through, which gives one of the younger guys a chance to step up and get better. now while jordan black had plenty of problems pass blocking, he did a decent job of run blocking. let's not jump ship yet...

[Donger]

Q: Why is Willie Roaf not here?

PETERSON: “Personal reasons, like Priest Holmes. We do expect him. Herm and I have talked with his agent and the same thing with Priest. These are veteran guys and they don’t have to be here the very first days. They have some personal things to take care of as does Ty Law. We respect that but we do expect Ty very shortly.”

[Fish]

http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/7848/nuclearexplosionoz7.gif

[Mr. Laz]

holy **** ............. this isn't good at all



code blue,code blue



get the crash cart in here, stat!!







NURSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[sedated]

What team loses both offensive tackles and still has a 2000 yard rusher?

[Frosty]

Q: Why is Willie Roaf not here?

PETERSON: “Personal reasons, like Priest Holmes. We do expect him. Herm and I have talked with his agent and the same thing with Priest. These are veteran guys and they don’t have to be here the very first days. They have some personal things to take care of as does Ty Law. We respect that but we do expect Ty very shortly.”

But then Herm let the cat out of the bag:

Q: What do you hope to get worked out here over the next few weeks?

EDWARDS: "Some of the positions where the depth is very competitive. I
think inside guys at tackle defensively I think that's important. Finding
out who our tackles are going to be on offense.

Tackles, with an "s".

[jynni]

So does this hurt or help us cap wise?

I wonder if this will make Kennison sit and STFU?

[BigChiefFan]

Holy shit. I wasn't expecting this.

[Mr. Laz]

This really stinks. Is there ANYONE out there that we can bring in at this point? I really have my doubts with anyone currently on the roster.

not barring a trade really.......


we better just hope that svitek and sampson are the real deal.





damnit carl!

:cuss:

[Fire Me Boy!]

I just want to say this is not a good birthday present. :deevee:

I don't want it and it's NOT the thought that counts.

[Baby Lee]

<i>George Bush just sits back and lets his cronies enjoy their money</i>

That's right! Bush lied, Roaf retired! I wonder what Chris Mathews has to say?
Accepting Black at LT tells me you don't love America.

[doomy3]

Anybody know how much money this does free up this year? Anybody that recently retired on another team that we could possibly try to talk out of retirement with the whole "final piece to a super bowl team" sales pitch?

[ROYC75]

But then Herm let the cat out of the bag:



Tackles, with an "s".

I saw that and was very concerned.........

[Mr. Laz]

Anybody know how much money this does free up this year? Anybody that recently retired on another team that we could possibly try to talk out of retirement with the whole "final piece to a super bowl team" sales pitch?

it doesn't hurt our salary cap because we can delay filing the paperwork but it doesn't help us much either.

his base salary for this year drops off the books ... but that's it


maybe a million :shrug:

[cdcox]

Anybody know how much money this does free up this year? Anybody that recently retired on another team that we could possibly try to talk out of retirement with the whole "final piece to a super bowl team" sales pitch?

It frees up his salary but accelerates half his remaining bonus, however much that is. Roaf recently reworked his contract, so I doubt anyone but the Chiefs really know.

[Coltsinsider]

DOOMED! DOOMED I TELL YOU!

ROTF

[morphius]

DOOMED! DOOMED I TELL YOU!

ROTF
May you lose your starting RB!

oh wait...

[deadbabyseal]

Lord help us.

[DaFace]

Looks like I'm a bit late for the meltdown, so

f**k f**k f**k f**k f**k f**k f**k f**k f**k f**k f**k f**k f**k f**k f**k f**k f**k f**k f**k f**k f**k f**k f**k f**k f**k f**k f**k f**k f**k f**k f**k f**k f**k f**k f**k f**k f**k f**k f**k f**k f**k f**k f**k f**k f**k f**k f**k f**k f**k f**k f**k f**k f**k f**k f**k f**k f**k f**k f**k f**k f**k f**k f**k f**k f**k f**k f**k f**k f**k f**k f**k f**k f**k f**k f**k f**k f**k f**k f**k f**k f**k f**k f**k f**k f**k f**k f**k f**k f**k f**k f**k f**k f**k f**k f**k f**k f**k f**k f**k f**k f**k f**k f**k f**k f**k f**k f**k f**k f**k f**k f**k f**k f**k f**k f**k f**k f**k f**k f**k f**k f**k f**k f**k f**k f**k f**k f**k f**k f**k f**k f**k f**k f**k f**k f**k f**k f**k f**k f**k f**k

That is all.

[Coltsinsider]

May you lose your starting RB!

oh wait...

:hmmm:

We just got a lot younger, faster, and more explosive there, son.

LOL though..

ROFL

[Mr. Kotter]

:banghead::banghead:

:deevee::deevee::deevee:

[Demonpenz]

we've lost so much and we are going to have injuries in camp.

[doomy3]

Is Ryan Lilja still out there? I know he got cut by the Colts, did he ever get picked up?

[Rudy tossed tigger's salad]

Congrats on an outstanding career

[Fire Me Boy!]

DOOMED! DOOMED I TELL YOU!

ROTF
Wait till Peyton gets hit in the preseason and is out for 2006. Karma's a bitch, man.

[Rudy tossed tigger's salad]

:hmmm:

We just got a lot younger, faster, and more explosive there, son.

LOL though..

ROFL
well we just got a lot younger, whiter, and skinnier

[Fire Me Boy!]

Bad thought: I wonder if he'll still be in the Madden roster... :hmmm:

[morphius]

I just want to say this is not a good birthday present. :deevee:

I don't want it and it's NOT the thought that counts.
You might not want to open any more of your presents...

[sd4chiefs]

810 is saying that Roaf just wants to sit out training camp and that he may unretire when the season starts.

[Iowanian]

KK just called in, and reports that the Chiefs don't appear as concerned as they might be. A Player told StJohn that he believes Roaf is out because he wants some more money......and that he doesn't like training camp. He didn't like Vermiel because of the long practices, was thrilled when Edwards was hired and is scheduled to make $3.5mil this year....the high of his career.

they say there is a big difference between being gone the first day of camp...and the first week of Sept.

A glimmer of hope.


The Chiefs are still my bad girlfriend.....She gives has a great summer, gives you a surprise ty law hummer....and then pulls a roaf.

[kcxiv]

with laws contract around our neck like an albotross looks like this is the team we will see in the next couple years. There won't be any money to do anything.There will be money, Bell wont see all his money Either will Surtain. Shields wont see all his money. Priest either. Hmm who else. I am sure there is more, but i just cme in from my physical therapy and i am tired.

[Coltsinsider]

Is Ryan Lilja still out there? I know he got cut by the Colts, did he ever get picked up?

You would do better without him, he was blown off the line so many times that it seemed like he was lining up at fullback.

[Baby Lee]

The Chiefs are still my bad girlfriend.....She gives has a great summer, gives you a surprise ty law hummer....and then pulls a roaf.
At least she doesn't pinch a Roaf.

[mlyonsd]

KK just called in, and reports that the Chiefs don't appear as concerned as they might be. A Player told StJohn that he believes Roaf is out because he wants some more money......and that he doesn't like training camp. He didn't like Vermiel because of the long practices, was thrilled when Edwards was hired and is scheduled to make $3.5mil this year....the high of his career.

they say there is a big difference between being gone the first day of camp...and the first week of Sept.

A glimmer of hope.


The Chiefs are still my bad girlfriend.....She gives has a great summer, gives you a surprise ty law hummer....and then pulls a roaf.
I'm hoping you're right.

Besides, if we went into TC thinking we had 99% of problems fixed it would make for a boring August on CP.

[BigChiefFan]

I sure like 810's approach.

[shaneo69]

Wonder if Jason Dunn can play tackle.

Do you know anything about football?





:)

[Iowanian]

She took a roaf on my keyboard this morning.

That was the evidence that prooved what she'd been up to.

Sometimes, I wish I didn't love that bidge so much.

I'm not melting down.....I've been seasoned to expect this, precisely when things look too good.

[doomy3]

You would do better without him, he was blown off the line so many times that it seemed like he was lining up at fullback.


better than Jordan Black though isn't it? I mean, there weren't any major breakdowns for the Colts when he was in there like there were when Black was in for us...

[Chiefnj]

Weren't there reports a few weeks ago that Roaf's contract was reworked? Carl didn't deny it he just said it was "nothing major." It seems odd that there was some contract work two weeks ago, but yet Roaf still wants more money.

If he wanted to skip camp couldn't he have just complained of a bad hammy and been put on the PUP for camp?

[Mr. Laz]

Is Ryan Lilja still out there? I know he got cut by the Colts, did he ever get picked up?
he never really got cut by the colts ...... that was a mistake by KFFL

[sedated]

.

[hypersensitiveZO6]

**** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** ****

That's pretty ****ed up.

[Rain Man]

This cannot be happening. Please tell me that this is some kind of cruel, cruel hoax.

[hypersensitiveZO6]

I feel as if Roaf died.

[Rain Man]

Hey, Brad! Brad Hopkins! How you doin', man? What're you up to these days?

[Rooster]

"We will rally around Jordan Black and we will play good football." :deevee:

[Hound333]

Wow... Wow... I can't say much else at this point.

[Mr. Laz]

"We will rally around Jordan Black and we will play good football." :deevee:
jordan black to take Roaf's spot at starting left tackle in today's practice.


:(

[penguinz]

Roaf, William
View Stats at Players Inc Site
Player Info

Draft Info

OL (#77)

Year: 1993

Kansas City Chiefs

Round: 1

San Francisco, CA

Position: 8

Salary History

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1994 500000.00
1995 600000.00
1996 196000.00
1997 500000.00
1998 2700000.00
1999 2350000.00
2000 2055000.00
2001 1895000.00
2002 650000.00
2003 800000.00
2004 2000000.00
2005 1000000.00
2006 3500000.00
2007 3500000.00
2008 3500000.00
2009 3500000.00


pretty big chunk of money that is free now.

[Rain Man]

This is just like the Dresden fire bombings, but it's worse. At least they heard the sound of the planes coming ahead of time.

I'm about to be sick.

[Bootlegged]

well, son of a cockwhore

[Wile_E_Coyote]

it's prolly already been said, but carring 4 QBs makes so much more sense to me now

[BIG_DADDY]

Great we have one good QB and Roaf is out. Friggen wonderful.

[Rain Man]

http://www.nfl.com/nflnetwork/story/9575606

(July 28, 2006) -- Eleven-time Pro-Bowl selection and future Hall-of-Fame offensive tackle Willie Roaf intends to retire, his agent Peter Schaffer confirmed this morning.

"He's retiring to spend more time with his family," said Schaffer, adding that Roaf is now in Pine Bluff, Ark., celebrating his son's birthday this weekend.

Roaf also has battled knee and hamstring injuries that have left him hobbling and wondering whether he could play at the same level he always had. At training camp last summer, Roaf told NFL Network he expected the 2005 season to be his last, but the offensive tackle clearly wavered in his thinking before deciding he had enough in recent weeks.

Roaf's decision is a big blow to the Kansas City Chiefs and what typically has been football's best offensive line. It already had lost right tackle John Welbourn to retirement and now has lost Roaf, leaving the Chiefs to patch up a unit that has dominated in recent years.

Now, when the Chiefs assemble for their first training camp practice this afternoon, Jordan Black will line up as Kansas City's starting left tackle and free-agent acquisition Kyle Turley will line up as the team's starting right tackle.

A Chiefs spokesman said Roaf's decision did not surprise them. The Chiefs knew that Roaf was on a year-to-year basis when they traded for him in 2002. Now that year has come, Schaffer said, and Roaf is done.

It also marks the second successive day an offensive lineman has made some of the biggest news of the day. On July 27, Cleveland center LeCharles Bentley, the face of the Browns free-agent class, ruptured his Achilles' tendon on the team's first contact play of training camp. Bentley will miss the 2006 season.

[WilliamTheIrish]

Whew!

I'm glad I had the defibrillator handy.

[greg63]

:banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:


No wonder we aquired Turley or whatever the guys name is.


Now we know how King Carl will pay Kennison.

[InChiefsHeaven]

Roaf retired because he does not feel he can physically perform to the level that he should, and I'd bet he does not have confidence in his ability to finish the season. The hamstring will not heal. In that sense, Willie did us a favor. Would it be better for him to play and go down in week 2? Or worse, not get injured but just not be able to perform the way we have come to expect? After he lets go of a couple of sacks, we'd all be sitting around pissed because he didn't retire...

...also, I hope Jordan Black reads the forum and uses it as inspiration to prove us all wrong.

...this blows. I need a drink...

[stumppy]

Boy, this just makes my butthole want to chew tobacco.

[greg63]

:cuss:

We'd better hope Turley is up for the job or Trent's backside just got exposed. And if he goes down what do we have? Rookies.:shake:

Yep!

[DTLB58]

Listening to 810. They just talked to Herm and he said nobody has told him Willie has retired. There have been no papers filed with the league.

One player they said they couldn't name said he thought it was about money. Others are speculating he just dosen't want to go thru training camp.

There not sold it's over yet.

[beavis]

KK is normally a douche, but he's making a convincing argument for this whole "he's just skipping camp" idea.

[Donger]

http://www.nfl.com/nflnetwork/story/9575606

(July 28, 2006) -- Eleven-time Pro-Bowl selection and future Hall-of-Fame offensive tackle Willie Roaf intends to retire, his agent Peter Schaffer confirmed this morning.

"He's retiring to spend more time with his family," said Schaffer, adding that Roaf is now in Pine Bluff, Ark., celebrating his son's birthday this weekend.

Roaf also has battled knee and hamstring injuries that have left him hobbling and wondering whether he could play at the same level he always had. At training camp last summer, Roaf told NFL Network he expected the 2005 season to be his last, but the offensive tackle clearly wavered in his thinking before deciding he had enough in recent weeks.

Roaf's decision is a big blow to the Kansas City Chiefs and what typically has been football's best offensive line. It already had lost right tackle John Welbourn to retirement and now has lost Roaf, leaving the Chiefs to patch up a unit that has dominated in recent years.

Now, when the Chiefs assemble for their first training camp practice this afternoon, Jordan Black will line up as Kansas City's starting left tackle and free-agent acquisition Kyle Turley will line up as the team's starting right tackle.

A Chiefs spokesman said Roaf's decision did not surprise them. The Chiefs knew that Roaf was on a year-to-year basis when they traded for him in 2002. Now that year has come, Schaffer said, and Roaf is done.

It also marks the second successive day an offensive lineman has made some of the biggest news of the day. On July 27, Cleveland center LeCharles Bentley, the face of the Browns free-agent class, ruptured his Achilles' tendon on the team's first contact play of training camp. Bentley will miss the 2006 season.

Reading that made me puke up my coffee.

[Rain Man]

If you want to skip training camp, you pretend that you've got a strained hamstring. You don't say you're retiring. A veteran should know that. For chrissakes, Tony Gonzalez learned that in his third season.

[Chiefnj]

So Herm is in Johnny Cochrane denial mode? "Retirement? What's retirement? Who said retirement? Nobody told me about any retirement. I don't know anything about this retirement. When I was a kid we went to Sunday school and the preacher never spoke of retirement. I can't worry about retirement, I've gotta coach the players we have. That's why we play defense."

[Chief Pote]

I hope they don't trade Scanlon for a left tackle.

[Gonzo]

So Herm is in Johnny Cochrane denial mode? "Retirement? What's retirement? Who said retirement? Nobody told me about any retirement. I don't know anything about this retirement. When I was a kid we went to Sunday school and the preacher never spoke of retirement. I can't worry about retirement, I've gotta coach the players we have. That's why we play defense."

Ladies and gentelman this is Chebacca.....This does not make sense!!

[stevieray]

Here is a giant thank you to willie...Thanks for coming to KC and giving us some of the most exciting offensive play in the last few years. Thanks for playing with a hurt hamstring, and thanks for always being so kind to the fans. There is only one Willie Roaf, and I'm glad we had him while we did. What a remarkable career!

You will be missed.... :( :( :(

[JohnnyV13]

First of all, if Roaf is retiring, he is going to have to return the signing bonus from that contract adjustment.

Since he had been on the last year of his contract, his entire base salary will go back into our cap if he indeed retires.

[Stinger]

good lord people. this is not the end of the season. i do believe we still have a whole training camp to go through, which gives one of the younger guys a chance to step up and get better. now while jordan black had plenty of problems pass blocking, he did a decent job of run blocking. let's not jump ship yet...

Shhhhhhh! This is when the Planet gets good some of us have been waiting for a good meltdown. ROFLROFL



But I am with you does losing Roaf hurt ... yes ... is it the end of the season ... no way. One person does not make the team. If he is retired, and I don't blame him for doing it at his age, you move on and keep your eye on the prize.

I wish him well in his retirement and thank him for his service to the Chiefs.

[mikey23545]

So Herm is in Johnny Cochrane denial mode? "Retirement? What's retirement? Who said retirement? Nobody told me about any retirement. I don't know anything about this retirement. When I was a kid we went to Sunday school and the preacher never spoke of retirement. I can't worry about retirement, I've gotta coach the players we have. That's why we play defense."

"If the hamstring's fit,
You just can't quit!"

[PastorMikH]

Could part of the problem be that the spotlight isn't on the offense anymore? Just got to thinking about it and was wondering. First off, Priest has always pushed to get back, he's dropped. Roaf has retired. Kennision is threatenin quiting if he doesn't get more money. Welbourn retired ('course his probably has more to do with not wanting to get busted taking ephedrin).

Granted all these players have reasons, but if the attention was still on them like it had been in the past, would it make any difference with them?

Just wondering

[greg63]

If you want to skip training camp, you pretend that you've got a strained hamstring. You don't say you're retiring. A veteran should know that. For chrissakes, Tony Gonzalez learned that in his third season.


Exactly!

[Bootlegged]

I'm so mad I may call Willie's wife.

[Fire Me Boy!]

If you want to skip training camp, you pretend that you've got a strained hamstring. You don't say you're retiring. A veteran should know that. For chrissakes, Tony Gonzalez learned that in his third season.
Just for the record... our reporter in RF just confirmed it with Chiefs PR.

[shaneo69]

Chiefs' Roaf retires
By ADAM TEICHER
The Kansas City Star
RIVER FALLS, Wis.

Tackle Willie Roaf, the foundation of one of the NFL’s best offensive lines, has retired.

Roaf told The Kansas City Star this morning by telephone that he had told president/general Carl Peterson and coach Herm Edwards of his plans weeks ago and even sent the Chiefs a letter declaring his intentions.


Article by Gretz refuting this statement on the official site in 4...3...2...1...

[Baby Lee]

Just for the record... our reporter in RF just confirmed it with Chiefs PR.
pronouns = teh suxxors!!

[Always a Chief fan]

This really sucks if true. If it is true, thank you Big Willie for everything you did for the Chiefs and Chiefs fans. Godbless and hope to see you in the hall of fame soon. Now fellow Chiefs fans, all is not lost, don't jump ship yet. Will Shields can play LT, he has filled in at both tackle positions in the past when needed. Move Jordan Black to guard if he doesn't work out at LT in TC. This also gives the young players like Sampson and Sviteck more reps to develope. And if all else fails, move Brian Waters to fullback with the mission to kill anyone who comes close to Trent.

[Rain Man]

pronouns = teh suxxors!!

I'm not surprised that the reporter would confirm that faking a hamstring industry is the way to skip training camp.

[chiefqueen]

Could this all be staged by the Chiefs to create the annual training camp panic because, before this there was nothing to panic about.

[Fire Me Boy!]

pronouns = teh suxxors!!
Sorry. The reported confirmed with Chiefs PR that Roaf was indeed retired.

[chief2000]

610 sucks.

[NY CHIEF]

Last year sampson was pegged to be our starting rg.................hopefully hes ready to go after it this year

[Immaculate]

We're so f*cked!!

[hawkchief]

Looks like good old Carl got all of the "real fans" to buy their tickets before he pulled the curtains back on his carnival of BS and treated his audience to a bad joke. This type of thing is vintage Peterson. Set the fans up for a Super Bowl contender so he can line his pockets, then announce after all tickets are paid for that one of the key pieces won't be around.

[Calcountry]

Whats that funny noise in the back of the econoline? I haven't heard that one before.

Maybe its time to get a new vehicle, naw, just one more run, it will make it.

[Reaper16]

"If the hamstring's fit,
You just can't quit!"
Heh.

[R&GHomer]

Dammit, I wish Roaf would have made up his mind before camp started. At least they have the entire camp to groom someone else. They didn't have that advantage last year when Roaf went out early in the year. Good gawd damn this sucks!!!!!!!!!!

[dirk digler]

Damn what a nightmare. This is what I was scared about the most and actually happened.

[Archie Bunker]

Looks like good old Carl got all of the "real fans" to buy their tickets before he pulled the curtains back on his carnival of BS and treated his audience to a bad joke. This type of thing is vintage Peterson. Set the fans up for a Super Bowl contender so he can line his pockets, then announce after all tickets are paid for that one of the key pieces won't be around.

ROFL

[Garcia Bronco]

Looks like Peterson screwed up BIG time if it is true Roaf informed the Chiefs WEEKS ago of his retirement

Unreal

.

what do you mean...how does that make a difference...like there is another roaf somewhere sitting on a shelf

[Hydrae]

Could part of the problem be that the spotlight isn't on the offense anymore? Just got to thinking about it and was wondering. First off, Priest has always pushed to get back, he's dropped. Roaf has retired. Kennision is threatenin quiting if he doesn't get more money. Welbourn retired ('course his probably has more to do with not wanting to get busted taking ephedrin).

Granted all these players have reasons, but if the attention was still on them like it had been in the past, would it make any difference with them?

Just wondering

Interesting thoughts. I have to wonder if there might be some connection to DV and AS leaving. It is hard to imagine but certainly possible that the offensive guys were playing for Dick and with him gone, have no connection to Herm to get them motivated to continue playing.

[Demonpenz]

Looks like good old Carl got all of the "real fans" to buy their tickets before he pulled the curtains back on his carnival of BS and treated his audience to a bad joke. This type of thing is vintage Peterson. Set the fans up for a Super Bowl contender so he can line his pockets, then announce after all tickets are paid for that one of the key pieces won't be around.


It's funny if you are serious and it's funny if that was sarcasim because of the shit people think.

[Eleazar]

Looks like good old Carl got all of the "real fans" to buy their tickets before he pulled the curtains back on his carnival of BS and treated his audience to a bad joke. This type of thing is vintage Peterson. Set the fans up for a Super Bowl contender so he can line his pockets, then announce after all tickets are paid for that one of the key pieces won't be around.

There it is!

I mean, I know there's one in every village, but I was starting to wonder if ours was lost.

[hawkchief]

It's funny if you are serious and it's funny if that was sarcasim because of the shit people think.

I've got some swap land if Florida for anyone that beleives that Carl Peterson won't do anything, including lying to the Chiefs fans, to sell tickets.

[Eleazar]

I've got some swap land if Florida for anyone that beleives that Carl Peterson won't do anything, including lying to the Chiefs fans, to sell tickets.

Yuor rite eye dun no whut i wuz thankin

[KCTitus]

Looks like good old Carl got all of the "real fans" to buy their tickets before he pulled the curtains back on his carnival of BS and treated his audience to a bad joke. This type of thing is vintage Peterson. Set the fans up for a Super Bowl contender so he can line his pockets, then announce after all tickets are paid for that one of the key pieces won't be around.

Probably my favorite post of the year...Im going to save this little ditty in my archive, not because I think it will be useful in the future, but because it's just sooo genious (chiefsplanet spelling) and it's a wonderful example of The Lexicon

[Chiefs Pantalones]

what do you mean...how does that make a difference...like there is another roaf somewhere sitting on a shelf

Obligatory 'congratulations on winning the AFC West' post that usually occurs under these types of situations.

[ct]

Do you know anything about football?

:)

/sarcasmoff

[Eleazar]

Probably my favorite post of the year...Im going to save this little ditty in my archive, not because I think it will be useful in the future, but because it's just sooo genious (chiefsplanet spelling) and it's a wonderful example of The Lexicon

Somebody else said it earlier. They said Carl sat on the information until now, after tickets went on sale... only tickets are not on sale yet.

[KCTitus]

what do you mean...how does that make a difference...like there is another roaf somewhere sitting on a shelf

Garcia: The Geniouses (chiefsplanet spelling) are just stretching their wings, they havent had much to crow about lately, forgive them if they're a bit incoherent.

[C-Mac]

HEY, our offense just got younger!!!
ROFL

[KCTitus]

Somebody else said it earlier. They said Carl sat on the information until now, after tickets went on sale... only tickets are not on sale yet.

ROFL

[C-Mac]

I feel like the Browns fans felt yesterday....

[Eleazar]

ROFL

Here it is.

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?p=3329816#post3329816

[Demonpenz]

Probably my favorite post of the year...Im going to save this little ditty in my archive, not because I think it will be useful in the future, but because it's just sooo genious (chiefsplanet spelling) and it's a wonderful example of The Lexicon


I said it first on the thread earlier just being sarcastic. Man That post maybe mine too. I have this picture of carl in a magistians outfit pulling back a curtin and seeing a freakshow of Roaf Law and turley all doing crazy stuff

[penchief]

Roaf WAS a football god but I think we'll be okay. The short term looks a bit gloomy but I think with the shifting focus of the offense and upgrades elsewhere that a more balanced team will somewhat offset the loss of such a great player.

[KCTitus]

I said it first on the thread earlier just being sarcastic. Man That post maybe mine too. I have this picture of carl in a magistians outfit pulling back a curtin and seeing a freakshow of Roaf Law and turley all doing crazy stuff

Yes, it's easy to mock, but just how F'ing funny is it to have someone seriously bust that out? There really is no substitute to a incoherent, sputtering, spittle-flinging-'Dammit Carl' rant.

[hawkchief]

Somebody else said it earlier. They said Carl sat on the information until now, after tickets went on sale... only tickets are not on sale yet.

Cochise,

You just exposed yourself as not being one of Carl's "real fans". Full/final payments for season ticket holders was due a couple of weeks ago. Nice try though - would have been better if your understood when the bulk of the money for Chiefs tickets is received and deposited by King Carl.

[BigRedChief]

ESPN Pastabelly story that he's done. Retired.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2532615 (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2532615)

[Dunit35]

I don't know if this has been said before, but Priest rushed for 1,555 yards when Willie wasn't on the team.

Training camp is going to be even more exiciting to see who steps up and takes the job...Go Svitek...

Keepin it real.

[penchief]

HEY, our offense just got younger!!!

If we cut Gammon we'll have the youngest team in the league.

[KCTitus]

Cochise,
You just exposed yourself as not being one of Carl's "real fans". Full payment for season ticket holders was due a couple of weeks ago.

The tickets in question were/are single game tickets, not season tickets.

[BigRedChief]

The tickets in question were/are single game tickets, not season tickets.
Anyway single game tickets are small potatoes in the larger picture of revenue genetation for the year. They have already sold 73,000 season tickets per game. Arrowhead seats 79,000+ correct?

[Eleazar]

Cochise,

You just exposed yourself as not being one of Carl's "real fans". Full/final payments for season ticket holders was due a couple of weeks ago. Nice try though - would have been better if your understood when the bulk of the money for Chiefs tickets is received and deposited by King Carl.

We were talking about single game tickets.

You just exposed yourself... as being an even bigger dumbass than we thought.

[MahiMike]

Man this sucks. He's the MVP of the team. Willie was out 4 games last year and we missed the playoffs by 1 game. Why the hell we didn't even attempt to fix the defense until it was too late is beyond comprehension.

Dammit Carl!!!

[ChiefsOne]

If this pans out to be true, it's pretty shitty of Roaf to do it the day they leave for camp. No matter if he informed Carl or anyone else a few months ago. He should have made it official weeks ago!

[tk13]

If this pans out to be true, it's pretty shitty of Roaf to do it the day they leave for camp. No matter if he informed Carl or anyone else a few months ago. He should have made it official weeks ago!
I don't think he simply intended to do it today. He just didn't show up for camp, so the media finally came after him asking him questions. He supposedly told a TV reporter in Louisiana he was seriously considering retirement a month ago. It appears he told Carl and Herm, so I guess he figured they could answer that.

[KCTitus]

Anyway single game tickets are small potatoes in the larger picture of revenue genetation for the year. They have already sold 73,000 season tickets per game. Arrowhead seats 79,000+ correct?

True, they are small potatoes, but someone thought it important enough to post that Carl hid this until they went on sale and they hadnt yet, so someone thought them somewhat big taters.

[mlyonsd]

I'm hoping this is all a cruel hoax and a side bet between Roaf and Shields to see who could bring down the planet server the most number of times.

If Shields announces his retirement in the next few days I'll know I'm right.

[dirk digler]

I was listening to 810 right before 1:00pm and they said CP made some statements and he doesn't seem all concerned right now and they believe he doesn't want to come to TC. IIRC they said CP talked to Roaf's agent a couple of weeks ago and the agent told CP Willie will be back this year.

[BigRedChief]

True, they are small potatoes, but someone thought it important enough to post that Carl hid this until they went on sale and they hadnt yet, so someone thought them somewhat big taters.

I just don't miss a chance to bash King Carl Mr Archivist :) You should know that by now

[KCTitus]

I just don't miss a chance to bash King Carl Mr Archivist :) You should know that by now

I think I speak for all posters when I say, we appreciate the comedy. :D

[Fire Me Boy!]

Report says Chiefs tackle Roaf retiring

RIVER FALLS, Wis. (AP) -- Kansas City Chiefs left tackle Willie Roaf has told a newspaper that he's retiring.

But the Chiefs say they aren't so sure.

The 36-year-old Roaf told the Kansas City Star today that he was leaving a 14-year career in which he became one of the finest offensive linemen in the game. His departure could tear a big hole in one of the finest offensive lines in the league.

But Chiefs president Carl Peterson says neither he nor head coach Herm Edwards had spoken with Roaf in several weeks and they are leaving the door open.

The newspaper said Roaf says he had told Peterson and Edwards of his intention weeks ago, as well as sent the team a letter saying what he intended to do.

Roaf has suffered from hamstring and knee injuries. He says he wants to go back to school.

[InChiefsHeaven]

Looks like good old Carl got all of the "real fans" to buy their tickets before he pulled the curtains back on his carnival of BS and treated his audience to a bad joke. This type of thing is vintage Peterson. Set the fans up for a Super Bowl contender so he can line his pockets, then announce after all tickets are paid for that one of the key pieces won't be around.

Yeah. That's it. Carl just KNEW that if Roaf left, nobody would buy tickets. That is the reason we all love our Chiefs, after all...Big Willie Roaf...the ONLY reason to be a fan...
:rolleyes:

[FringeNC]

I was listening to 810 right before 1:00pm and they said CP made some statements and he doesn't seem all concerned right now and they believe he doesn't want to come to TC. IIRC they said CP talked to Roaf's agent a couple of weeks ago and the agent told CP Willie will be back this year.

I have to think it's more than wanting to miss training camp. It's go to be about money (assuming that he is actually not dead-set on retiring.) Roaf knows he makes this offense go....

[dirk digler]

I have to think it's more than wanting to miss training camp. It's go to be about money (assuming that he is actually not dead-set on retiring.) Roaf knows he makes this offense go....

If it is they are not letting on like it is which is smart. CP was supposedly going on and on about how veterans hate TC.

[SBK]

I would say this makes losing T Rich not as big of a deal. We're going to see more 2 TE sets with Dunn on the left side, and T Rich would be on the bench. It's not the end of the world, but I ain't happy either.

[JBucc]

there is no god

[ChiefFan31]

http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/7848/nuclearexplosionoz7.gif

This is not happening!!!

Dammit Carl :cuss:

We had better work out a trade for an LT somehow.


Im gonna go to the bathroom and take a big ROAF!! :mad:

[DJ's left nut]

If he retires at the end of last season, I tell him thanks.

He retired the week before training camp after all chance of getting a useful replacement is gone.

I hope he gets hit by a bus.

[HemiEd]

I hope he gets hit by a bus.

I hope you like red instead of green.

[Nightwish]

Hopefully the decision isn't completely final, yet. Carl seems to think there is still a chance, but he may just be in denial. Either way, we all knew it was gonna happen, just hoped it wouldn't happen until after this season. Still, Jordan Black is respectable at the position, and he's still growing into his potential. And Kyle Turley, if he can play up to the level he did before his injury, is nearly a match for Roaf. Of course, that's a big question, regarding Turley. I think the coaches were hoping to play him comparitively light this season to make sure he's back in good shape, rather than forcing him fully into the fray as a starter. I guess we'll know soon enough what level he's going to be able to play at.

Hopefully there's still a chance Willie will stick it out for another year, despite what his agent says, but if he doesn't, these things happen.

[Hootie]

Roaf is gone. I hope you people are really holding on to some "false hope" that he's just trying to skip out on TC. Shit, I'm sure if he goes to Carl and says, "Yo, Carl, I don't want to go to TC this year, either you let me skip it or I retire..." Carl would probably let him skip it.

[Hootie]

Jordan Black is not a respectable LT, maybe at RT, but not LT...just to clear that up for everyone.

[Mecca]

Jordan Black is respectable as a LT if you're using standards at which Houstons line played the last few years.

[stevieray]

If he retires at the end of last season, I tell him thanks.

He retired the week before training camp after all chance of getting a useful replacement is gone.

I hope he gets hit by a bus.

Waiting till now tells me he was hoping his body would be recovered by camp.

Your last statement really sucks.

[Tribal Warfare]

Jordan Black is respectable at the position,.


Yeah , professional seat heating distributor

[the Talking Can]

If he retires at the end of last season, I tell him thanks.

He retired the week before training camp after all chance of getting a useful replacement is gone.

I hope he gets hit by a bus.

I hope you die tonight.

[Nightwish]

Jordan Black is not a respectable LT, maybe at RT, but not LT...just to clear that up for everyone.
By "the position," I just meant tackle in general. If he's a lot better at RT than at LT, then presumably they will keep him there, and let Turley, who was pretty darned good at both sides, play LT.

[Mecca]

While his getting hit by a bus comment is classless and probably shouldn't have been said. I kind of agree with him in this is just horrible timing for someone that important for the team to retire. Gives the Chiefs 0 opportunity to go get someone to replace him.

[Nightwish]

While his getting hit by a bus comment is classless and probably shouldn't have been said. I kind of agree with him in this is just horrible timing for someone that important for the team to retire. Gives the Chiefs 0 opportunity to go get someone to replace him.
I don't think he just sprung this on them at the last moment. From what he says, they've known for quite awhile. It sounds like the team just didn't believe it was really going to happen, so they didn't prepare for his departure this season the way they should have. I wouldn't put the blame on Roaf.

[Mecca]

I don't think he just sprung this on them at the last moment. From what he says, they've known for quite awhile. It sounds like the team just didn't believe it was really going to happen, so they didn't prepare for his departure this season the way they should have. I wouldn't put the blame on Roaf.

He says May, which is still horrid timing. If you feel you're going to retire you really should let the team know before the draft at worst. Preferable before FA and the draft.

[Nightwish]

Right now, about all we can do is wait and see what happens. If he is retiring, we'll just have to see how Black/Turley handle things. They might step up to the plate, in which case, a bunch of people are gonna feel kinda stupid for all the doomsday talk.

[Mr. Laz]

Jordan Black is not a respectable LT, maybe at RT, but not LT...just to clear that up for everyone.

i have yet to see Black play respectable at right tackle

[cdcox]

He says May, which is still horrid timing. If you feel you're going to retire you really should let the team know before the draft at worst. Preferable before FA and the draft.

Sometimes the timing of life's events aren't convenient. I gotta believe Roaf was sure he was comming back as late as early May based on what he said in public. Bob Dole's thread in June was the first hint he gave that he may not be coming back.

[Hootie]

SHUT UP LAZ DON'T MAKE ME CHOKE YOU BITCH

[VonneMarie]

We're doomed! It's over! :deevee:

[stevieray]

Right now, about all we can do is wait and see what happens. If he is retiring, we'll just have to see how Black/Turley handle things. They might step up to the plate, in which case, a bunch of people are gonna feel kinda stupid for all the doomsday talk.

Exactly, when one door closes, another opens up. Don't underestimate how bad some players want to play, and play well.

Funny, we disagree oin most things except music and football.

[Baby Lee]

Right now, about all we can do is wait and see what happens. If he is retiring, we'll just have to see how Black/Turley handle things. They might step up to the plate, in which case, a bunch of people are gonna feel kinda stupid for all the doomsday talk.
Yeah, Turley/Black will be the LT version of Warner '99, and we'll look stoopid!!

[Chargers8491]

Charger fan here... Im going to post what I did on a Chargers forum.. Please keep the Sh*t talking to yourself, Im not here for that only to talk football.

As a fan of fottball first then a Chargers fan. It will be hard to see Roaf retire. He is arguably one of the best OT around, not only was he one of the best pass protectrs, but he was one of the best run blockers.

As a football fan I'm sad to see him retire, I like watching him play.

As a Charger fan Im glad he see him retire.

I hope he makes to the HoF I think he deservers it.

Good luck in your future endevers its been fun watching you play (except against the Chargers).

[chubychecker]

If he retires at the end of last season, I tell him thanks.

He retired the week before training camp after all chance of getting a useful replacement is gone.

I hope he gets hit by a bus.

Roaf made it known throughout the offseason that if he was considering retirement if he didn't feel good enough to play. If he stays retired I'm going to give him the benefit of doubt that it is infact due to chronic injuries that haven't been able to heal. To me this is a much classier move than Priest trying to force management into placing him on the pup list therefore paying him for this year when he knows damn well he isn't playing. Thank you WIllie you have been a great and classy player. Wish you the best in future endeavors.

[TinyEvel]

Congratulations.
You've just discovered a way to instantly get rid of morning wood.

banghead

[Nightwish]

As a Charger fan Im glad he see him retire.
LOL, I imagine a lot of non-Chiefs fans, and especially AFC West fans, share that sentiment! I just hope that whoever takes his place will be able to step up and at least keep Trent from getting killed!