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QB - Eli Manning/McNabb
RB- S. Alexander/C. Taylor
RB- Reggie Bush/Jamal Lewis
WR- M Harrison/Da Housh
WR- Andre Johnson/N. Burelson
TE- Winslow
K-Elam (I know)
IDP's
R. Lewis, Kawika, A Pierce

[Bootlegged]

thanks for all the feedback :thumb:

[chagrin]

TEAM LATTIMER - PHUK YEAH!

[wutamess]

HELL YEAH!

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ROFL

[chagrin]

Heh

[DaFace]

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[wutamess]

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[pr_capone]

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It is the answer to the ultimate question anyways. :d

/obscure?

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TEAM LATTIMER - PHUK YEAH!

nicely done.

[SCTrojan]

Great stuff. I don't know what the other teams in your league look like, but yours looks like a monster. If Reggie Bush blows up, the sky's the limit.

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Great stuff. I don't know what the other teams in your league look like, but yours looks like a monster. If Reggie Bush blows up, the sky's the limit.

10 team league - so I'm pretty happy. If my RB's hit it should be good.

[chagrin]

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It is the answer to the ultimate question anyways. :d

/obscure?

Not obscure at all, Arthur ;)

[wutamess]

10 team league and that's your roster?

Kinda weak for 10 team league.

[DaFace]

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It is the answer to the ultimate question anyways. :d

/obscure?

Surely you jest. With an avatar such as mine, THAT one's not going over my head.

[Bootlegged]

10 team league and that's your roster?

Kinda weak for 10 team league.


What part is weak, IYO?

[wutamess]

What part is weak, IYO?
10 team league...
QB - Eli Manning/McNabb
RB- S. Alexander/C. Taylor
RB- Reggie Bush/Jamal Lewis
WR- M Harrison/Da Housh
WR- Andre Johnson/N. Burelson
TE- Winslow
K-Elam (I know)
IDP's
R. Lewis, Kawika, A Pierce

Since you have Shaun Alex you have a top 3 pick.

Who you took with your 2nd pick (Harrison maybe) there where TONs of guys to pick before that pick.

Eli - avg
McNabb - overrated/possibly below avg

Bush you probably took to early and took a chance on him.

I'm willing to bet there was a better TE available bthan Winslow (who hasn't shown chit).

Jamal Lewis/Chester Taylor (weak reaches)

Sorry for a 10 team league you should have TOPS one ? position.
You have every starting position a ?

[wutamess]

Here's my team with the 10th pick in my 12 team league...

QB: Warner/Kitna/ B. Johnson
RB: E. James/D. Davis/ K. Jones/ K. Barlow
WR: D. Jackson/ M. Muhammad/ L. Evans/ A. Toomer/ Mark Clayton/ Alge Crumpler
K:J. Reed
Def: SD

We start 1QB, 2 RB's, 4 WR/TE, K, Def
More consistent than your 10 team league.

[wutamess]

Here's my 10 team league using ESPN's standard format...
Last pick in that draft.

QB: C. Palmer/ Kitna
RB: D. Davis/ M. Bell/ R. Johnson/ D. Rhodes
WR: R. Williams/ Santana Moss/ D. Jackson/ M. Muhammed/ Marck Clayton/ Drew Bennet/ Reggie Brown
TE: Heap
K: Josh Brown
Def: Falcons

[Bootlegged]

10 team league...
QB - Eli Manning/McNabb
RB- S. Alexander/C. Taylor
RB- Reggie Bush/Jamal Lewis
WR- M Harrison/Da Housh
WR- Andre Johnson/N. Burelson
TE- Winslow
K-Elam (I know)
IDP's
R. Lewis, Kawika, A Pierce

Since you have Shaun Alex you have a top 3 pick.

Who you took with your 2nd pick (Harrison maybe) there where TONs of guys to pick before that pick.

Eli - avg
McNabb - overrated/possibly below avg

Bush you probably took to early and took a chance on him.

I'm willing to bet there was a better TE available bthan Winslow (who hasn't shown chit).

Jamal Lewis/Chester Taylor (weak reaches)

Sorry for a 10 team league you should have TOPS one ? position.
You have every starting position a ?


I have one stud RB and 3 potential 1000 yarders.
I have 2 top 10 QB's
I have a top 3 WR and 3 top 25's to go with
Winslow/V Davis at TE
top flight IDP's.

QB- E Manning
Rb- Alexander
Rb- Bush/Taylor/Lewis
WR-Marvin Harrison
WR-Andre Johnson
WR- Housh
TE- Winslow/Davis
K-Elam
D- R Lewis
D- A Pierce
D- K Mitchell

Chester Taylor is an every down back for my #3. Much stronger than most in this draft. J. Lewis has monster upside for a #4. Alexander is #1 or 2 in the draft. Not following your logic on how this is a weak squad - especially 2 solid RBs picked mid-rounds that have 1000yd potential you label as "weak reaches". But I appreciate the input.

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Here's my 10 team league using ESPN's standard format...
Last pick in that draft.

QB: C. Palmer/ Kitna
RB: D. Davis/ M. Bell/ R. Johnson/ D. Rhodes
WR: R. Williams/ Santana Moss/ D. Jackson/ M. Muhammed/ Marck Clayton/ Drew Bennet/ Reggie Brown
TE: Heap
K: Josh Brown
Def: Falcons


10 Rudi (fell to you)
11 Davis (injured leg)

3rd R Williams (solid)
4th Moss (solid)

5th Heap or Palmer (solid)

6th D. Jackson (solid)

Clayton/Brown/Bennett - throw aways.

Good team - top 1/4 of a league - but screwed on bye week with Bengals and no stars to ride to championship - unless Palmer has monster yr.

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Here's my team with the 10th pick in my 12 team league...

QB: Warner/Kitna/ B. Johnson
RB: E. James/D. Davis/ K. Jones/ K. Barlow
WR: D. Jackson/ M. Muhammad/ L. Evans/ A. Toomer/ Mark Clayton/ Alge Crumpler
K:J. Reed
Def: SD

We start 1QB, 2 RB's, 4 WR/TE, K, Def
More consistent than your 10 team league.



We have a major difference of opinioin. I'd hate myself for drafting this. Edge has no Oline, Davis is hurt, Jones may lose job and Barlow is a Jet.

Muhammed as a #2 in a 4 WR league? Ouch.

[penguinz]

We have a major difference of opinioin. I'd hate myself for drafting this. Edge has no Oline, Davis is hurt, Jones may lose job and Barlow is a Jet.

Muhammed as a #2 in a 4 WR league? Ouch.Not to mention that his QB's are average at best.

[ct]

Here's my team with the 10th pick in my 12 team league...

QB: Warner/Kitna/ B. Johnson
RB: E. James/D. Davis/ K. Jones/ K. Barlow
WR: D. Jackson/ M. Muhammad/ L. Evans/ A. Toomer/ Mark Clayton/ Alge Crumpler
K:J. Reed
Def: SD

We start 1QB, 2 RB's, 4 WR/TE, K, Def
More consistent than your 10 team league.

You're callin Lattimer's team weak, then show up with this? Seriously? This team sucks ass dude!

[wutamess]

I have one stud RB and 3 potential 1000 yarders.
I have 2 top 10 QB's
I have a top 3 WR and 3 top 25's to go with
Winslow/V Davis at TE
top flight IDP's.


I guess that's where the problem is...

Harrison is not a top 7 FFL receiver. I think he ranked somewhere in 15ish last year.

Andre Johnson had a HORRIBLE year last year.
Outside of Alexander all your RB's are potentials.

Taylor may be in RBBC.
Eli & McNabb MAY round out top 10.

FWIW: I've come in 1st & 2nd last year in both of my money leagues.

[ct]

QB - Eli Manning/McNabb
RB- S. Alexander/C. Taylor
RB- Reggie Bush/Jamal Lewis
WR- M Harrison/Da Housh
WR- Andre Johnson/N. Burelson
TE- Winslow
K-Elam (I know)
IDP's
R. Lewis, Kawika, A Pierce

QBs are risky, but Manning will put up points, and McNabb might surprise many this year. Great backup regardless.
RBs are pretty good, but you're rollin the dice after Alexander. I happen to buy into the Chester Taylor hype. Reggie depends on your scoring system. I'm leery of Jamal, but that's a helluva #4!
WRs are pretty good, but a little thin. If Burleson stays healthy, you're in great shape.
TE prolly could have done better, but I think he'll be fine.
K you're fine.
IDPs - I don't usually play IDP, but you've got 3 high tackle machines, if RayRay can finally stay healthy. I think the addition of Ngata will help him big time!

I'll offer a 8 of 10.

[wutamess]

I'll post this later on when I get off where exactly your players ranked last year.

[Bootlegged]

I guess that's where the problem is...

Harrison is not a top 7 FFL receiver. I think he ranked somewhere in 15ish last year.

Andre Johnson had a HORRIBLE year last year.
Outside of Alexander all your RB's are potentials.

Taylor may be in RBBC.
Eli & McNabb MAY round out top 10.

FWIW: I've come in 1st & 2nd last year in both of my money leagues.


We'll agree to disagree [burgandy]

Outside of the top 3 RB's aren't most potentials? I think you're reaching to say this is a weak corps

I'll put Harrison/Johnson/Housh/Burlson up against most WR corps. New offense and healthy Johnson = 1000yds and decent TD's. Housh had what 8-9 last year and missed time.

Where did you hear Taylor RBBC? Not happening. He's #1 every down back. Moore will back him up.

Eli's avg pick was 3-4th rd. McNabb 5-6th.

[ct]

I guess that's where the problem is...

Harrison is not a top 7 FFL receiver. I think he ranked somewhere in 15ish last year.

Andre Johnson had a HORRIBLE year last year.
Outside of Alexander all your RB's are potentials.

Taylor may be in RBBC.
Eli & McNabb MAY round out top 10.

FWIW: I've come in 1st & 2nd last year in both of my money leagues.

Last year means nothing.

Harrison will end up top10, Indy will be slingin like crazy this year, plenty to go around b/n he and Wayne.

Andre will do much much better this year, believe it.

You say outside of Edge his RBs are 'potentials', what are yours? Davis has a chronic knee problem, Kevin Jones has nice potential, but Barlow is a bum, proven bum. Nobody in JETS-ville has potential this year. Chester will do well, might very well end up top10 RB scorer this year in PPR leagues.

Eli and McNabb rounding out the top 10, he's got 2 top 10 QBs and this is a negative in your opinion? WTF? You've got Crystal Warner, and to back him up your stellar decisions are Jon fricking Kitna, and Brad "So Old I've Got A Limp" Johnson? ROFL Good Luck with that...

[wutamess]

Last year means nothing.

Harrison will end up top10, Indy will be slingin like crazy this year, plenty to go around b/n he and Wayne.

Andre will do much much better this year, believe it.

You say outside of Edge his RBs are 'potentials', what are yours? Davis has a chronic knee problem, Kevin Jones has nice potential, but Barlow is a bum, proven bum. Nobody in JETS-ville has potential this year. Chester will do well, might very well end up top10 RB scorer this year in PPR leagues.

Eli and McNabb rounding out the top 10, he's got 2 top 10 QBs and this is a negative in your opinion? WTF? You've got Crystal Warner, and to back him up your stellar decisions are Jon fricking Kitna, and Brad "So Old I've Got A Limp" Johnson? ROFL Good Luck with that...

Actually the year before Harrison was around 15ish too.
I believe Andre could do well this year too.

Not a negative but TO is gone for McNabb.
I'm not saying his draft is horrible... I'm saying with a 10 team league, I'm sure he could've gotten a better (on paper) draft that what he has.
That's all.

Talk about Warner if you want He bailed me out last year with his pass happy offense. Kitna has Martz and Martz loves him and he's got receivers. Kevin Jones could (potentially) put up Faulk like numbers with Martz. Johnson was the man for MN last year. That's why I picked uup 3 QB's because if 1 don't pan out then I ahve backups to rotate when matchups are favorable.

FWIW: Too many people put stock on QB... I usually don't draft QB till round 7th or 8th. I think that's what made his draft average.

The avg between the 1st QB and the 20th (saw on ESPN) was 3 pts /game. RB was 13 pts/game.

[ct]

Actually the year before Harrison was around 15ish too.
I believe Andre could do well this year too.

Not a negative but TO is gone for McNabb.
I'm not saying his draft is horrible... I'm saying with a 10 team league, I'm sure he could've gotten a better (on paper) draft that what he has.
That's all.

Talk about Warner if you want He bailed me out last year with his pass happy offense. Kitna has Martz and Martz loves him and he's got receivers. Kevin Jones could (potentially) put up Faulk like numbers with Martz. Johnson was the man for MN last year. That's why I picked uup 3 QB's because if 1 don't pan out then I ahve backups to rotate when matchups are favorable.

FWIW: Too many people put stock on QB... I usually don't draft QB till round 7th or 8th. I think that's what made his draft average.

The avg between the 1st QB and the 20th (saw on ESPN) was 3 pts /game. RB was 13 pts/game.

Even in an 8 team league, if you can get 2 top10 QBs (your words even), 3 starting RBs and a 4th part-timer with the explosiveness of Bush (whom you KNOW the coaches are gonna put on the field every chance they get), 3 top 20 WRs plus a 4th just outside that range, then you've had a damn good draft.

Only thing I'd change is a proven RB2/3 vs. Chester/Bush. However, my RB2/3 last year were Lamont Jordan and Steven Jackson, with Larry Johnson as RB4, and that worked out fairly well for me I'd say. :) Nothin wrong with drafting 'potential' if you choose the right guys. I think he did, you don't. Fine with me, good luck to all.

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Even in an 8 team league, if you can get 2 top10 QBs (your words even), 3 starting RBs and a 4th part-timer with the explosiveness of Bush (whom you KNOW the coaches are gonna put on the field every chance they get), 3 top 20 WRs plus a 4th just outside that range, then you've had a damn good draft.

Only thing I'd change is a proven RB2/3 vs. Chester/Bush. However, my RB2/3 last year were Lamont Jordan and Steven Jackson, with Larry Johnson as RB4, and that worked out fairly well for me I'd say. :) Nothin wrong with drafting 'potential' if you choose the right guys. I think he did, you don't. Fine with me, good luck to all.


I wanted to go solid #2 back as well- just not available. Took Bush in the 3rd knowing I could get Taylor. Got Jamal much later.

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I wanted to go solid #2 back as well- just not available. Took Bush in the 3rd knowing I could get Taylor. Got Jamal much later.

I'm picking last in a 12-team league this Saturday. Harsh reality is this year, there are very few (10 IMHO) solid choices at RB. I see the RBs as a whole sliding down this year, and if you can choose wisely, starting RBs can be had as late as the 6th round. Peyton may get picked in the 1st round, so unless there is another odd-ball pick, I'm SOL @12. Seriously considering taking the top 2 wideouts at 12/13, and waiting for my starting RB. Never done this before though, could backfire bigtime.

Any thoughts? It's a typical PPR yardage league. Unless that RB gets receptions, or scores often, the high-target WRs are better value.

EDIT: Should have mentioned we get 3 FLEX starters, only 1 required RB and 1 req. WR/TE (they are the same, no mandatory TE). Worst case I only aquire 1 decent RB, and play 4 wideouts all year (until trades). :)

[wutamess]

RB's in order.... IMO

LJ
Alexander
LT
Steven Jackson
Tiki
Portis
Rudi
Lamont
Edge
Carnell Williams
Domanick Davis
Ronnie Brown
McGahee

[wutamess]

Harrison FFL rank...
2002 #1 432 pts...#2 Hines Ward 366
2003 #6 306 pts
2004 #11 284... #8 Reggie Wayne 299
2005 #8 297

Housh...
2005 #15 225 pts

Andre Johnson...
2005 #42 143pts
2004 #16 257 pts
2003 #22 188pts

Burleson...
2005 #87 68 pts (Without Moss)
2004 #19 229 pts (With Moss)

[wutamess]

WR: D. Jackson/ M. Muhammad/ L. Evans/ A. Toomer/ Mark Clayton/ Alge Crumpler

DJack - Hasselback's #1 man.
2005 (injured most of season) #61 104pts
2004 #12 277pts
2003 #10 263

M Muhammad - Payoff is big if Griese starts.
2005 #33 161 pts
2004 #1 356
2003 #36 153

L Evans - Strong if.
2005 #32 168
2004 #29 192

A Toomer - Manning throwing to him.
2005 #31 169
2004 #52 122
2003 #19 198

M Clayton _ Have a gut feeling about hime.
2005 #54 113

Crumpler (WRcomparison)
2005 #29 181 pts
2004 38 158

[wutamess]

Clayton/Brown/Bennett - throw aways.



Clayton was a top scorer every week after about week 10.

Brown is McNabbs' #1 target.

Bennett is Voleks #1 target. Remember the guy that torched our secondary for 200 yards and 3 TD's on Monday night?

Kitna's my sleeper QB this year with Martz.

[Rausch]

I hate Winslow and Eli makes me edgy but other than that you're gold...

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I hate Winslow and Eli makes me edgy but other than that you're gold...


Thanks - actually made a move and picked up Vernon Davis at TE as well. We'll see.

I'm picking last in a 12-team league this Saturday. Harsh reality is this year, there are very few (10 IMHO) solid choices at RB. I see the RBs as a whole sliding down this year, and if you can choose wisely, starting RBs can be had as late as the 6th round. Peyton may get picked in the 1st round, so unless there is another odd-ball pick, I'm SOL @12. Seriously considering taking the top 2 wideouts at 12/13, and waiting for my starting RB. Never done this before though, could backfire bigtime.

Any thoughts? It's a typical PPR yardage league. Unless that RB gets receptions, or scores often, the high-target WRs are better value.

EDIT: Should have mentioned we get 3 FLEX starters, only 1 required RB and 1 req. WR/TE (they are the same, no mandatory TE). Worst case I only aquire 1 decent RB, and play 4 wideouts all year (until trades). :)

Maybe Carnell Williams/Westbrook? If not I'd take best available WR with one and RB with the other. Can get a Roy Williams in the next Rd..

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Maybe Carnell Williams/Westbrook? If not I'd take best available WR with one and RB with the other. Can get a Roy Williams in the next Rd..

Yes if Caddy is there, that's my pick. I can't stomach a guy with repeated foot injuries as my #1 back, so Westy is below the 1st tier WRs, IMHO. Caddy is the last RB before I take 2 WRs. Done a few mocks with this approach, and while I'm not happy with Kevin Jones, Willis McGahee types as my top back, I love getting 3 top 10 wideouts in this lineup. I think I can make this work. We'll see...

Thanks for the advice!

[Bootlegged]

10 team league...
QB - Eli Manning/McNabb
RB- S. Alexander/C. Taylor
RB- Reggie Bush/Jamal Lewis
WR- M Harrison/Da Housh
WR- Andre Johnson/N. Burelson
TE- Winslow
K-Elam (I know)
IDP's
R. Lewis, Kawika, A Pierce

Since you have Shaun Alex you have a top 3 pick.

Who you took with your 2nd pick (Harrison maybe) there where TONs of guys to pick before that pick.

Eli - avg
McNabb - overrated/possibly below avg

Bush you probably took to early and took a chance on him.

I'm willing to bet there was a better TE available bthan Winslow (who hasn't shown chit).

Jamal Lewis/Chester Taylor (weak reaches)

Sorry for a 10 team league you should have TOPS one ? position.
You have every starting position a ?


Wutamess showing his ffball prowess.

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