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kc rush
08-23-2006, 01:16 PM
I know that the question has been asked before, but does anyone here know of a legit (and legal) work at home business? My wife is considering leaving her job to stay at home with the kids for a year until our oldest goes to kindergarten. She is looking for something she can do in the evening once I get home from work to make ends meet. Prostitution is not an option, hence my "legal" comment.

Anyone?

Rain Man
08-23-2006, 01:18 PM
My cousin's wife enters medical records at home, and seems to like doing it. I have no idea what it pays (not a lot, I'm guessing), but she has some sort of weekly quota, and she can do it any time as long as she meets the quota.

dtebbe
08-23-2006, 01:24 PM
You could always set up a webcam and take requests. That would be a win-win all around...

DT

carlos3652
08-23-2006, 01:28 PM
You could always set up a webcam and take requests. That would be a win-win all around...

DT
ROFL

DMAC
08-23-2006, 01:30 PM
I asked this last year, and no, there is not.

wutamess
08-23-2006, 01:36 PM
Well the obvious...
Babysit other kids.
No easier way to make money. She could even go REALLY legit and make a great living off of watching kids if she opens up her own daycare.

Trying to talk my wife into quitting her job to babysit for 2 years and then we'd expand to a daycare building and all she'd have to do is manage it. 6 figure salary if it's done right.

Luckily I work from home and watch my youngest 2. Saves me atleast $1000/month. Get the point?

BucEyedPea
08-23-2006, 01:56 PM
She can be a copywriter, desktop publisher or a graphic designer.
But they require training with probably the least being for a desktop publisher.

chagrin
08-23-2006, 01:58 PM
massage therapist, totally legit and legal, heh...

Rain Man
08-23-2006, 02:06 PM
Well the obvious...
Babysit other kids.
No easier way to make money. She could even go REALLY legit and make a great living off of watching kids if she opens up her own daycare.

Trying to talk my wife into quitting her job to babysit for 2 years and then we'd expand to a daycare building and all she'd have to do is manage it. 6 figure salary if it's done right.

Luckily I work from home and watch my youngest 2. Saves me atleast $1000/month. Get the point?

A six-figure salary in day care? Just a note: the digits behind the decimal point don't count when you're adding up the figures.

wutamess
08-23-2006, 02:14 PM
A six-figure salary in day care? Just a note: the digits behind the decimal point don't count when you're adding up the figures.


I beg to differ.

avg cost for infants is $175/week
toddler $130ish
pre kindergarten $130ish.

I have a cousin that pays $250/week for 1 kid.

Now Let's do some math.
There's 52 weeks in a year which means she'd need to make $Approx $2k / week. That's 12-15 kids /week. Easily a daycare has anywhere up to 50 kids @ any Lepetite or whatever.

$100k isn't uncommon in the industry.

Note: That's gross.... It's also attainable to Net 6 figures also.
Le Petite does.

Rain Man
08-23-2006, 02:16 PM
Yeah, but aren't there all sorts of requirements about the maximum kids per employee, and requirements to have equipment to get all of the kids out of a burning building in two minutes, and a bunch of other stuff?

Good luck to you if you've done the feasibility study, but my impression of that industry was that it's pretty low-margin.

Iowanian
08-23-2006, 02:18 PM
we pay $2.50/hr for daycare for an infant.

If you watch 5 kids, thats $12.50/hr.....not rich, but money.

wutamess
08-23-2006, 02:21 PM
Yeah, but aren't there all sorts of requirements about the maximum kids per employee, and requirements to have equipment to get all of the kids out of a burning building in two minutes, and a bunch of other stuff?

Good luck to you if you've done the feasibility study, but my impression of that industry was that it's pretty low-margin.

Sure there's requirements... I think it's like 4-6 kids per person.
But the person only makes like $7/hr. Mostly teens on summer break or people that love kids. Ceilings have to be like 8'.

Could be low margin... someone always needs daycare. Once you have your building and it passes requirements Everything else is good. Just like any business, There's probably startup pains. But it's probably one of the safest businesses out there.

Someone always need daycare.

Maybe I shouold note that's it's a business that you genuinely have to be interested in. You have to love kids or it will not work unless you hire a GM that takes care of it.

wutamess
08-23-2006, 02:24 PM
we pay $2.50/hr for daycare for an infant.

If you watch 5 kids, thats $12.50/hr.....not rich, but money.

Only place I know that charged by the hour is individuals on college campuses.

Everyone else is mostly weekly flat fee from 6am or 7am - 6pm.

Luckily my aunt watched our infants we called around and the cheapest we found was $175/week.

patteeu
08-23-2006, 02:24 PM
I beg to differ.

avg cost for infants is $175/week
toddler $130ish
pre kindergarten $130ish.

I have a cousin that pays $250/week for 1 kid.

Now Let's do some math.
There's 52 weeks in a year which means she'd need to make $Approx $2k / week. That's 12-15 kids /week. Easily a daycare has anywhere up to 50 kids @ any Lepetite or whatever.

$100k isn't uncommon in the industry.

Note: That's gross.... It's also attainable to Net 6 figures also.
Le Petite does.

I think your math is wrong. I'd be willing to bet that it's very uncommon in the industry. Maybe if you have a large daycare that successfully caters to a high end clientele with a very cheap staff, but otherwise I don't see it. Good luck though, I hope I'm wrong.

wutamess
08-23-2006, 02:26 PM
I think your math is wrong. I'd be willing to bet that it's very uncommon in the industry. Maybe if you have a large daycare that successfully caters to rich families with a very cheap staff, but otherwise I don't see it.

Those are K.C. rates. may be cheaper where you are.
Lowest we paid was $80/week and that was in 2000 in Indiana while at Purdue.

Notice I said she have a home daycare for 2 years and then we get a building and do it big and she manage it. Not talking about lil sarah watching the kids I'm talking about a full legit business.

I previously ran it across the wife... she didn't want to do it so it's a done deal.

ChiTown
08-23-2006, 02:32 PM
My cousin's wife enters medical records at home, and seems to like doing it. I have no idea what it pays (not a lot, I'm guessing), but she has some sort of weekly quota, and she can do it any time as long as she meets the quota.

Rainman

My wife is looking to do something like this, as she has some extra time during the week. Any chance you might be able to get me some information as to how you wife's cousin went about this? Tks.

Chi

Inspector
08-23-2006, 02:34 PM
Ok, here's a great way to make a LOT of money!

See, first you need to.....


Wait.

I just read this again. You want only legal things??

Ok, never mind then....

Rain Man
08-23-2006, 02:55 PM
Rainman

My wife is looking to do something like this, as she has some extra time during the week. Any chance you might be able to get me some information as to how you wife's cousin went about this? Tks.

Chi

Lemme see if I can find some contact information for my cousin, and I'll ask.

sedated
08-23-2006, 02:56 PM
keeping me pleasured is a full-time job

ChiTown
08-23-2006, 03:10 PM
Lemme see if I can find some contact information for my cousin, and I'll ask.

Cool. Thanks!

chiefs1okie
08-23-2006, 03:26 PM
I think your math is wrong. I'd be willing to bet that it's very uncommon in the industry. Maybe if you have a large daycare that successfully caters to a high end clientele with a very cheap staff, but otherwise I don't see it. Good luck though, I hope I'm wrong.
In defense of his math....those numbers quite possibly are conservative. I had researched this very subject years back and found that if I could average 45 kids a week with the required 1 aide per six kids, and trying to enroll as many government subsidized kids as I could...the net income would have been over six figures. And by enrolling govt. subs. kids the food costs are stupid low as they pay for child care AND provide assistance on food for the day care operator. I thought it was a great idea but my wife hates kids (and we have five...go figure) and wouldnt listen. Would be very lucrative for someone wanting to set it up as a business and go all out with it.

KingPriest2
08-23-2006, 03:29 PM
Well the obvious...
Babysit other kids.
No easier way to make money. She could even go REALLY legit and make a great living off of watching kids if she opens up her own daycare.

Trying to talk my wife into quitting her job to babysit for 2 years and then we'd expand to a daycare building and all she'd have to do is manage it. 6 figure salary if it's done right.

Luckily I work from home and watch my youngest 2. Saves me atleast $1000/month. Get the point?


We have owned one for 3 years. We are one of the best in the area. We have about 90 kids.

6 figure income? Wow must be nice.

There are too many things you miss that you have to pay out.

YOu have food about 600 bucks a week, utilities 600 bucks a week, Insurance, workmans comp, rent 1500 to 2000 bucks a month, Payroll, Unemployment taxes, federal taxes, advertising, CE classes for your teachers.

If you need any help let me know

KingPriest2
08-23-2006, 03:31 PM
I beg to differ.

avg cost for infants is $175/week
toddler $130ish
pre kindergarten $130ish.

I have a cousin that pays $250/week for 1 kid.

Now Let's do some math.
There's 52 weeks in a year which means she'd need to make $Approx $2k / week. That's 12-15 kids /week. Easily a daycare has anywhere up to 50 kids @ any Lepetite or whatever.

$100k isn't uncommon in the industry.

Note: That's gross.... It's also attainable to Net 6 figures also.
Le Petite does.


There are alot of expenses that you don't even think about.

kc rush
08-23-2006, 03:37 PM
Rainman

My wife is looking to do something like this, as she has some extra time during the week. Any chance you might be able to get me some information as to how you wife's cousin went about this? Tks.

Chi

Let me know as well. I had mentioned this to my wife as a possibility. Any help on getting something like this started would be great. Any ideas on potential income would help too.

KingPriest2
08-23-2006, 03:39 PM
In defense of his math....those numbers quite possibly are conservative. I had researched this very subject years back and found that if I could average 45 kids a week with the required 1 aide per six kids, and trying to enroll as many government subsidized kids as I could...the net income would have been over six figures. And by enrolling govt. subs. kids the food costs are stupid low as they pay for child care AND provide assistance on food for the day care operator. I thought it was a great idea but my wife hates kids (and we have five...go figure) and wouldnt listen. Would be very lucrative for someone wanting to set it up as a business and go all out with it.


Actually they are not conservative.

kc rush
08-23-2006, 03:42 PM
Well the obvious...
Babysit other kids.


She is considering that. The only problem is that she expects to go back to work in a year, and that would leave whoever she was watching high and dry once she went back. It also seems like the people we know in our area who have kids are already doing this, so it wouldn't be as simple as watching a kid that you know.

It is still being considered though.

OgTheCaveman
08-23-2006, 03:45 PM
Let me know as well. I had mentioned this to my wife as a possibility. Any help on getting something like this started would be great. Any ideas on potential income would help too.

Okay. I've found an e-mail for one of my cousins who probably has an e-mail for the cousin who has the wife who does this. I'm thinking that she'll e-mail me the e-mail address of him, who can pass a message on to her so she can e-mail me back so I can get permission to give her e-mail addresses to you and Chitown so you two can e-mail her and get the scoop. I think that's a foolproof plan.

OgTheCaveman
08-23-2006, 03:47 PM
I'm leery of any business where you face significant competition from undocumented immigrants, stay-at-home moms, and 12 year-old girls. They can apply a lot of price pressure.

OgTheCaveman
08-23-2006, 03:47 PM
Uh-oh. I think I just destroyed my secret identity.

KingPriest2
08-23-2006, 03:47 PM
10 to 1 for prek and preschool
8 to 1 for 2
4 to 1 for 2 and younger

These are the ratios.

We opened up three years ago and we are doing fine but not great. We have been voted the best for 2 years running.

My wife is the director. we have 2 teachers in the infant room 2 in the toddler room 1 in the 2 year room 1 in the 2 plus room 2 in the preschool room and 2 in the pre k. We have 2 revolving teachers and a cook.

15 people. That is payroll, taxes and CE classes that take alot of your money coming in.

We have close to 70 kids any given day. We have close to 100 enrolled.


Summer months are the slowest months of the year because the kids siblings are home from school or the prek kids go to the area headstart for the summer to prepare for school

OgTheCaveman
08-23-2006, 03:48 PM
Um...

http://geoimages.berkeley.edu/GeoImages/BainWest/BAIN5/BIGHORNS.JPG

Jenson71
08-23-2006, 03:53 PM
One option is teaching diabetics over the phone how to use their insulin pumps. She could spend probably a half hour on the phone each night. Sometimes it's frustrating because you're dealing with people that can't take care of themselves all that well. However, that's only Type II Diabetes. Type I people are born with it, and they can even be young kids, so its rewarding if you think of it like that. It's an amount of money that won't buy a car at the end of the year, but it can pay most of the monthly bills, and down the road, it can lead to big promotions with the pump companies, stuff like managing the pump specialists in a district or section of the state.

She will need to take classes on how to effectively use and teach insulin pumps. I'm not an expert on this field, so you should definitely get details from someone in the area first, obviously.

wutamess
08-23-2006, 04:52 PM
10 to 1 for prek and preschool
8 to 1 for 2
4 to 1 for 2 and younger

These are the ratios.

We opened up three years ago and we are doing fine but not great. We have been voted the best for 2 years running.

My wife is the director. we have 2 teachers in the infant room 2 in the toddler room 1 in the 2 year room 1 in the 2 plus room 2 in the preschool room and 2 in the pre k. We have 2 revolving teachers and a cook.

15 people. That is payroll, taxes and CE classes that take alot of your money coming in.

We have close to 70 kids any given day. We have close to 100 enrolled.


Summer months are the slowest months of the year because the kids siblings are home from school or the prek kids go to the area headstart for the summer to prepare for school

So you're telling me that with 70 full time kids (low end estimate - $100 per week/ per kid) ($7k/week) you don't gross six figures?

Here's you #'s...
YOu have food about 600 bucks a week, utilities 600 bucks a week, Insurance, workmans comp, rent 1500 to 2000 bucks a month, Payroll, Unemployment taxes, federal taxes, advertising, CE classes for your teachers.


That's about $7k/month worth of bills (Am I wrong?). You're making that in a week.

I'm telling you what people were going to charge me for my infant and what I just finished paying for my son not less than 1 month ago. My 4 yo niece is $135 also/week.

Where is your daycare located?
And what are your rates?

KingPriest2
08-23-2006, 06:23 PM
So you're telling me that with 70 full time kids (low end estimate - $100 per week/ per kid) ($7k/week) you don't gross six figures?

Here's you #'s...
YOu have food about 600 bucks a week, utilities 600 bucks a week, Insurance, workmans comp, rent 1500 to 2000 bucks a month, Payroll, Unemployment taxes, federal taxes, advertising, CE classes for your teachers.


That's about $7k/month worth of bills (Am I wrong?). You're making that in a week.

I'm telling you what people were going to charge me for my infant and what I just finished paying for my son not less than 1 month ago. My 4 yo niece is $135 also/week.

Where is your daycare located?
And what are your rates?

There is alot more to it then what you think.

140 for infants and todds

115 for 2

105 for 3 and up

I believe that is what my wife is charging

We also have a 25 enrollment fee

We also have once a month date night 10 bucks a kid

we are in JOplin

Skip Towne
08-23-2006, 06:55 PM
Anybody who can do this job has nerves of steel. I have to work around the little curtain climbers every day and I want to punt them into the neighbor's yard.

Rain Man
08-23-2006, 07:02 PM
Yeah, it would take a seven-figure salary for me to run a day care center, and even then I'd probably only last a month unless I could figure out a way to slip sleeping pills into their milk.

milkman
08-23-2006, 07:12 PM
keeping me pleasured is a full-time job

So who's she pleasuring when she's not at her full time job?

milkman
08-23-2006, 07:13 PM
I know that the question has been asked before, but does anyone here know of a legit (and legal) work at home business? My wife is considering leaving her job to stay at home with the kids for a year until our oldest goes to kindergarten. She is looking for something she can do in the evening once I get home from work to make ends meet. Prostitution is not an option, hence my "legal" comment.

Anyone?

You could always move to Nevada where prostitution is legal.

Skip Towne
08-23-2006, 07:23 PM
Yeah, it would take a seven-figure salary for me to run a day care center, and even then I'd probably only last a month unless I could figure out a way to slip sleeping pills into their milk.
Peppermint Schnaaps works well. I discovered that when a doctor told me to give a kid peppermint to cure colic. Hey, it was the only thing peppermint that I had. I also used it to put the little bastards to sleep when I had enough of the screaming and yelling.

Skip Towne
08-23-2006, 07:29 PM
I had a three year old messing with the receiver I was installing the other day. I didn't say a word I just picked up a nearby brochure and popped him on the head with it. Then I learned that his dad was standing right behind me. He had a big grin on his face. He had been yelling at the little f*cker all morning to no avail.

KingPriest2
08-24-2006, 04:10 PM
So you're telling me that with 70 full time kids (low end estimate - $100 per week/ per kid) ($7k/week) you don't gross six figures?

Here's you #'s...
YOu have food about 600 bucks a week, utilities 600 bucks a week, Insurance, workmans comp, rent 1500 to 2000 bucks a month, Payroll, Unemployment taxes, federal taxes, advertising, CE classes for your teachers.


That's about $7k/month worth of bills (Am I wrong?). You're making that in a week.

I'm telling you what people were going to charge me for my infant and what I just finished paying for my son not less than 1 month ago. My 4 yo niece is $135 also/week.

Where is your daycare located?
And what are your rates?

If you need any info let me know

penguinz
08-24-2006, 04:21 PM
That's about $7k/month worth of bills (Am I wrong?). You're making that in a week.
Yes you are wrong.

ricardo4432
08-24-2006, 08:16 PM
Why not stuff envelopes.. I read the signs along the road.. you're supposed to be able to make over $1,000 a week (LOL)

I am in the computer industry and I make really good money. In fact, I just work for fun now. I've made so much money I don't know what to do with myself.

Here's a good search on how to make money: <link>http://www.google.com/search?q=how+to+make+money&start=0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official</link>

Rain Man
08-29-2006, 10:33 PM
For those who were interested in the medical claims processing thing that my cousin's wife does:

The company is Uniprise and they process claims for United HealthCare. My cousin-in-law works in Springfield from her house, even though it looks like the company is in Connecticut.

If you'd like, I can see if she would be willing to chat with you about the job and/or pass along a hiring contact. Otherwise, here's their website: http://www.uniprise.com/career/index.html

Demonpenz
08-29-2006, 11:58 PM
man i want a buisness theory pissing match to break out. Don't make me dust off my missouri western degree!