Bitch Tits and Bitch Bellies on Men

[BIG_DADDY]

Went to and awesome brunch this weekend with some friends but I couldn't eat much because of being grossed out by a bunch of guys in there with bitch bellies stuffing their fat ****ing faces. We are talking young guys in their 20's and 30's. I mentioned it to one of the guys sitting there and he said that happens now because of the estrogen being put in our drinking water. I don't know anything about this subject so I thought I would come to the Planet to see if anyone knows what is going on here. I googled it and there seems to be a lot of information out there on it but I don't have the time to do the research so I am just hoping somehere knows the subject. Needless to say I won't be dumping a bunch on brunch again anytime soon. This is some of the articles I pulled up real fast.

http://www.bandersnatch.com/feminine.htm

http://www.webmd.com/content/article/92/101794.htm

[HC_Chief]

lol
They have tits because they're lazy, not because of estrogen in the water.

[Ultra Peanut]

Mr. Dink had bitch tits.

IIRC, there are trace amounts of estradiol in the plastic used to make the bottles for the, err, bottles water. Not enough to make any sort of difference, though. Those guys are just fat ****s, or suffering from gynecomastia (which has nothing to do with drinking water).

Also, the first link is to a satire site.

AIRLINES TO HIRE DEATH SQUADS

NEW YORK: Spokesmen for America's airline industry announced today that the airline industry will hire former special forces soldiers to form corporate death squads to hunt down Osama bin Laden.

"This terrorisim crap has cost us a fortune," said the airline spokesman, "and we've got to protect our business."

Airline exectives have long been frustrated with the inability of the US government to get rid of bin Laden.

"Five years later and the bastard is still screwing with us," said Willard Freep, CEO of TransMountain Airlines. "Meanwhile we're mixed up in a civil war in Iraq spending billions and now we've got to confiscate shampoo."

Southwest Airlines announced today that free toothpaste and mouthwash would be served on its flights, along with peanuts.

lol
They have tits because they're lazy, not because of estrogen in the water.BRUTAL

[jiveturkey]

I pulled these out of the first link, which claims that it is the least trustworthy news source on the web. ROFL

Connie Lingus, spokeswoman for Women's Estrogen Planning League (WELP)

Dick Rod, point man for Rage of Man (RAM)

Bibe Cervantez, brew master of GUT, the nation's largest supplier of beer

[Baby Lee]

Noticed bitch tits in a couple of surprising places last week on prime time TV;

'Marshall' on How I Met Your Mother
D.L. Hugley - Studio 60 on the Sunset Strip

[BIG_DADDY]

lol
They have tits because they're lazy, not because of estrogen in the water.

I agree their lazy as hell. Funny thing is I made some comments awhile back that we should lace the water supply in the ME with estrogen then come to find out we have a problem with it here. :shake: Fortunately I almost never drink tap water.

[sedated]

too much bench press, not enough incline? :shrug:

[BIG_DADDY]

I pulled these out of the first link, which claims that it is the least trustworthy news source on the web. ROFL



Pretty funny I know, that's why I put down the Web MD sight. I don't know the subject and was hoping someone would. Apparently it has been in our newspapers out here too as that's where he read about it. The article he read blamed the early developement of our girls on it. That would have been the SF Chronical or the SJ Mecury News.

[Archie F. Swin]

I would consider the sour cream on their taco

[Eleazar]

If you ever want to see a set of manboobs, come to the place where I work. Half the people here are sporting a set of moobs.

I don't think it's some conspiracy, I think it's just the American sedentary lifestyle.

Not that I'm some fitness freak or anything, but jeez.

[jidar]

so.. you went out to eat and were grossed out by fat people? Drama much?
You must not have been out to eat in about 20 years if you got grossed out by the fatties.

[BIG_DADDY]

so.. you went out to eat and were grossed out by fat people? Drama much?
You must not have been out to eat in about 20 years if you got grossed out by the fatties.

Just trying to find out about the water dick head. I think a lot of people have a hard time with their appetite when looking at a bunch of lard asses but whatever.

[morphius]

Well, that explains the pussification of California.

[Inspector]

So that's why I started having periods.....

[BIG_DADDY]

Well, that explains the pussification of California.


Maybe LMAO

[JBucc]

I was wondering what that new hole down there was

[Phobia]

It's a good thing I drink nothing but diet coke.

[BIG_DADDY]

OK here is something else on it.

Governing Magazine/September 2006

FEATURE: DRUGS

PROZAC IN THE WATER

Sophisticated new tests reveal small amounts of steroids and other
drugs in drinking water. How big a threat are these contaminants?

By Tom Arrandale

A decade ago, Shane Snyder headed to Las Vegas. He was working on a
doctorate in ecological toxicology, and federal government biologists
had detected that something strange was happening to the fish in
nearby Lake Mead: Male carp were turning into females.
Snyder's initial findings about the source of the problem were
inconclusive. But understandably disturbed by the situation, the
Southern Nevada Water Authority in 2000 hired Snyder as its research
and development director. Since then, he and fellow scientists have
confirmed that natural and synthetic chemicals in Lake Mead are
deforming some fish and disrupting their capacity to reproduce.
The culprit isn't factory discharges or polluted runoff from farms.
Rather, it's the 1.8 million metro area residents and 38 million
tourists who visit the city annually. Every day, the pharmaceuticals,
personal care products and human hormones they secrete or rinse from
their bodies are flushed down the drain. Those substances accumulate
in the sewage effluent that Las Vegas releases into the reservoir
behind Hoover Dam.
For Nevada's water agencies, as well as those in big cities in
California and Arizona, the question now is whether these newly
detected "emerging contaminants" pose any danger to the millions of
people who drink water from the Colorado River.
The country has 53,000 drinking-water systems, and most have all they
can handle ensuring an adequate supply for growing populations, coming
up with billions of dollars to upgrade sewage treatment plants and
installing expensive new technology to ensure that water flowing
through household taps will meet existing federal contaminant limits.
But a handful of water utilities are on the forefront of scientific
research to determine whether they'll also need to deal with thousands
of additional substances that are showing up in increasingly
sophisticated water-quality tests.

FEMINIZED FISH
In the mid-1990s, fishermen in Great Britain recognized that
downstream from aging sewage-treatment plants all the fish they caught
had female organs. Meanwhile, herpetologists found that male
alligators and frogs exposed to pesticides were also developing female
characteristics. More recently, researchers have found feminized fish
in wastewater effluent in the Potomac River outside Washington, D.C.,
near Denver and in the Pacific Ocean just offshore from Los Angeles
and Orange County, California.
It's clear that chemicals discharged into the environment can alter
some organisms' endocrine systems, which secrete hormones into the
bloodstream to control reproduction, growth and development. Congress
has responded by ordering the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency to
start reviewing whether endocrine-disrupting chemicals also threaten
human health. Federal regulators have proposed limits on perchlorate,
a compound from rocket fuel known to affect endocrine glands, but
EPA's review of thousands of pesticides, plastics and other commonly
used compounds is dragging on.
At the same time, concern has emerged that frequently prescribed
pharmaceuticals and ubiquitous personal care products such as soap,
shampoo and detergents could be causing similar environmental damage.
Increasingly accurate laboratory technology makes it possible to
identify much smaller chemical residues, down to minuscule parts-per-
trillion levels, in sewage effluent and drinking-water samples.
"Birth-control pills have been around since the 1960s, but now we are
actually able to detect them at these lower concentrations," notes Joe
Gully, an environmental scientist for the Los Angeles County Sewer
District's ocean research program.
Meanwhile, Snyder and others have documented that Las Vegas' treated
sewage plant discharges carry traces of codeine, Prozac, Valium,
common antibiotics, insect repellents and a host of chemicals termed
endocrine disruptors into the Lake Mead reservoir. And they have
linked those human byproducts to abnormal female characteristics in
carp, bass and razorback suckers, which swim and feed in the effluent
the city's treatment plants release into the lake.
So far, the results have detected "essentially no human health
concern," according to Snyder. But the National Park Service manages a
national recreation area along the lake, and Los Angeles, San Diego,
Phoenix and Tucson draw much of their supplies from the Colorado River
reservoir. "It's a really politically motivated body of water," he
adds, and downstream residents naturally recoil at the thought that
they're unwittingly ingesting somebody else's medicine.
So water and sewer utilities feel compelled to follow up on even
cursory findings that drugs, chemical residues and even natural human
hormones flowing through municipal sewers are disrupting reproduction
in fish that swim downstream. With the science so uncertain, local
officials worry that the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency will
eventually feel compelled to order communities to install expensive
treatment upgrades to dispel the public's fear that emerging
contaminants pose similar threats to human health.

DON'T FLUSH
As the data accumulates, governments in some areas are taking steps
to give patients alternatives to flushing unused prescription drugs
down their toilets. Three years ago, psychiatrists persuaded the Maine
Legislature to provide prepaid envelopes for mailing drugs past their
expiration dates to the state's drug enforcement program for safe
disposal. Chicago has experimented with drug-return programs, and
Washington State this summer launched a pilot collection effort giving
consumers a way to drop off unused medications at drugstores. But
pharmaceuticals also leach from landfills and seep into streams in
animal waste from feedlots where livestock are fattened. And as
millions of Americans take their medicine every day, they're also
passing residues through their bodies into community sewer systems.
The pharmaceutical byproduct stream is renewed daily, and the volume
is growing as doctors prescribe new drugs that go on the market. In
addition, even the healthiest people excrete some of the natural
hormones their bodies produce, and more of those are flowing into
wastewater systems as urban populations expand. The levels of natural
estrogen in Las Vegas' wastewater is 10 times higher than synthetic
estrogen used to make birth-control pills, Snyder points out. "There's
not much we can do about that; it's not like an industrial chemical
that you can ban or restrict."
Most studies that detected damage to aquatic life haven't
demonstrated that sexual deformities are widespread enough to threaten
entire populations of fish or amphibians. In Lake Mead, however, a
2002 U.S. Geological Survey study warned that sexual deformities
conceivably could decimate the razorback sucker, an endangered species
that tends to concentrate near Las Vegas' sewage outfall to feed on
nutrients in the effluent. The Clark County Water Reclamation District
is considering spending $585 million on a 17-mile-long pipeline that
would pump most of Las Vegas' 170 million gallons of effluent per day
to be diluted in 250-foot-deep waters above Hoover Dam. Biologists,
however, worry that approach would send emerging contaminants over the
dam, threatening Colorado River fish populations along the Arizona-
California border.
Snyder's research has found that treating effluent with ozone or
reverse osmosis can remove more than 70 percent of most suspected
pharmaceutical and endocrine-disrupting contaminants. However, he
notes, "the cost of implementing those types of processes can be
enormous."
In contrast to well-documented threats such as Cryptosporidium or
water-treatment byproducts, "I haven't seen any compelling evidence
that emerging contaminants in drinking water" are harming people who
drink it, Snyder says. Pharmaceuticals are commonly used to stimulate
livestock growth and milk production, "and people get a much greater
dose from eating a steak or drinking milk."

TREATMENT TACTICS
Snyder now is working with the American Water Works Association and
some of California's biggest water-supply systems on a project that is
studying what kind of treatment most effectively removes 15 widely
used pharmaceuticals and eight suspected endocrine disruptors that
have been found in drinking-water supplies. Environmental groups keep
prodding EPA to move more quickly to identify and control emerging
contaminants, and state and local governments are well aware that
regulations could eventually be imposed.
The Pennsylvania Environmental Protection Department and USGS have
started screening streams and groundwater for unregulated
contaminants, and the Philadelphia Water Department continues
monitoring its supply after studies two years ago found minor traces,
measuring in the parts per trillion, of 13 painkillers, antibiotics,
antidepressants and other drugs, as well as estrogen and the insect
repellent DEET in the city's water.
Christopher S. Crockett, Philadelphia's watershed protection manager,
sees no risk to city residents but acknowledges that press accounts of
the research have caused public concern. Philadelphia draws water from
the Schuylkill and Delaware River basins, and "5 percent of the U.S.
population lives in our watershed," he says. Most city residents
nonetheless don't understand that "not all the water comes from the
top of the Rocky Mountains," so learning that tap water carries minute
amounts of hormones and pharmaceuticals that have passed through
upstream residents' bodies "is really shocking to a lot of people."
Negative public reaction could be even more worrisome for water-short
Southwestern cities that share the Colorado River's overcommitted
supply. Fast-growing desert cities are counting on expanding their
resources by recycling sewage effluent for irrigating golf courses and
eventually replenishing drinking-water supplies. Studies led by Gully,
the Los Angeles County researcher, suggest a possible solution: Let
treated effluent trickle through layers of soil. This appears to
effectively remove estrogen from the wastewater that California and
Arizona cities have begun using to recharge groundwater aquifers to
replenish drinking-water reserves. While there's no evidence that the
water is dangerous for drinking, "it's part of our mission to make
sure our water is safe for reuse," Gully says. "This is a really new
field, and it's one that's worthy of investigation."


TINY TRACES

Common pharmaceuticals detected in drinking-water supplies

LITERS/DAY OF TREATED
DRINKING WATER AN ADULT
THERAPEUTIC WOULD NEED TO DRINK TO
DRUG DOSE TAKE IN THERAPEUTIC DOSE
Atenolol 25 mg/day 26,315,789
Beta blocker

Carbamazepin (Tegretol) 10 mg/day 1,960,784
Anti-convulsant

Phenytoin (Dilantin) 100 mg/day 6,666,667
Anti-convulsant

Gemfibrozol 1,200 mg/day 2,857,142,857
Cholesterol control

Sulfamethoxazole 400 mg/day 1,052,631,579
Anti-infection

Sources: Richard C. Pleus, Intertox Inc.; and Shane A. Snyder,
Southern Nevada Water Authority

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[BIG_DADDY]

It's a good thing I drink nothing but diet coke.

And here all this time I thought that was a beer gut.

[jiveturkey]

It's a strange subject for sure.

There seems to be a handful of things designed to make us fat. It's almost impossible to find food that doesn't contain corn syrup or some other form of corn. Reading the list of ingredients in our food is a scary proposition.

The wife and I try to stick to organic food but that gets pricey.

And what is up with our air? Everyone I know has allergies or cronic sinusitis now and nobody had them until they were in their mid to late 20's.

[BIG_DADDY]

It's a strange subject for sure.

There seems to be a handful of things designed to make us fat. It's almost impossible to find food that doesn't contain corn syrup or some other form of corn. Reading the list of ingredients in our food is a scary proposition.

The wife and I try to stick to organic food but that gets pricey.

And what is up with our air? Everyone I know has allergies or cronic sinusitis now and nobody had them until they were in their mid to late 20's.

Now 600MG garlic tabs got rid of all my allergies.

[B_Ambuehl]

Aromatase is an enzyme which converts testosterone into estrogen. It is found in fat cells and increases as bodyfat increases.

So a fat male often to develop female characteristics (moobs etc.) due to excessive aromatase causing what testosterone he does produce to be converted into estrogen. Lose the fat and the problems go away.

It is true that the average testosterone level is lower now than it was 30 years ago. However, it is easily explained by increased psychological stress and increased obesity.

[Dartgod]

Well, I guess I won't be sitting down to the dinner table with Big Daddy anytime soon.

[HC_Chief]

what's a "bitch belly"?

[jiveturkey]

Now 600MG garlic tabs got rid of all my allergies.
What were you alergic to?

I'd be willing to try anything. Being alergic to dust (all of a sudden) is real pisser.

Do you take garlic everyday? Do you burb it up all day like I do with fish oil?

[BIG_DADDY]

what's a "bitch belly"?

Beer bellies are big round bellies. Bitch bellies those really low one's that roll out over the pelvis.

Well, I guess I won't be sitting down to the dinner table with Big Daddy anytime soon.

You just have a beer belly dude. LMAO

You don't even remotely resemble the guys I'm talking about dude.

Actually you are probably the person I would want to see the most my next trip out.

[BIG_DADDY]

What were you alergic to?

I'd be willing to try anything. Being alergic to dust (all of a sudden) is real pisser.

Do you take garlic everyday? Do you burb it up all day like I do with fish oil?

Pollen. I gave so of those tabs to people who were suffering this year and it stopped for them too. They are really cheap if you buy them here. This is the product you want. Hohpe it helps.

http://www.iherb.com/store/ProductDetails.aspx?c=Herbs&pid=NOW-01813

[Dartgod]

You just have a beer belly dude. LMAO

You don't even remotely resemble the guys I'm talking about dude.

Actually you are probably the person I would want to see the most my next trip out.
Like you're ever going to make it out here again.


Also, my rack is a bit more impressive than the last time you saw me.

[burt]

Beer bellies are big round bellies. Bitch bellies those really low one's that roll out over the pelvis.



You just have a beer belly dude. LMAO

You don't even remotely resemble the guys I'm talking about dude.

Actually you are probably the person I would want to see the most my next trip out.

Nope, I am....and I have a nice rack myself!!!

[BIG_DADDY]

Like you're ever going to make it out here again.


Also, my rack is a bit more impressive than the last time you saw me.


It's all that good living. I'll make it back out there. It's not my fault every year they do the 37 forever thing it falls right on something important I am doing. Life has kind of taken over here real recently. That's why I haven't been here much.

[BIG_DADDY]

Nope, I am....and I have a nice rack myself!!!

Never have to leave the house. :)

[Frosty]

What were you alergic to?

I'd be willing to try anything. Being alergic to dust (all of a sudden) is real pisser.

Do you take garlic everyday? Do you burb it up all day like I do with fish oil?

I had horrible "hay fever". It seemed like I was allergic to everything. It was year round and I would still have problems, even while taking Claritin everyday. When I went gluten free the first of February, my "hay fever" abruptly cleared up. I don't take the Claritin anymore and the only time that I had any problems all spring and summer was the couple of days that the pine pollen was out. I was just a little sneezy those days, nothing like before with the constant sneezing and runny nose. The few times that I was accidently exposed to gluten, the hay fever came back for a few days.

Maybe something to investigate if the garlic doesn't work.

(Gluten is a protein in wheat, barley and rye. I have to avoid anything made with those, which is pretty much everything processed.)

Oh, and I avoid the "fish burps" by taking the fish oil only with food and making sure it's really fresh (I use the Kirkland brand from Costco).

[BIG_DADDY]

I should have said yes I do take it once a day and no I don't burp it. IT's coated to get it into your system.

[jiveturkey]

Great info all around.

I always prefer the natural way. Everytime I go to the doctor they ask two questions and then "treat" the problem, they never actually want to "solve" the problem.

Bastards :cuss:

[Frosty]

Great info all around.

I always prefer the natural way. Everytime I go to the doctor they ask two questions and then "treat" the problem, they never actually want to "solve" the problem.

Bastards :cuss:

There is a lot more money in treating the symptoms than in actually curing what is causing those symptoms.

[BIG_DADDY]

Great info all around.

I always prefer the natural way. Everytime I go to the doctor they ask two questions and then "treat" the problem, they never actually want to "solve" the problem.

Bastards :cuss:

You have to take responsibility for your own health. The doctors and the FDA just work for the big pharmaceutical companies now. Pfizer bought and buried the technology that could have cured all heart disease so they could keep pushing Lipitor. Pops came off it recently and they started sending him all kinds of fear mail trying to scare him back to using it. They knew he was off of it and where he lived. Everything natural is better. Jack LaLane said it best. If god didn't make it don't eat it. Explains a lot about why arc is feeling so much better.

[jiveturkey]

I believe it. It's just hard to find reliable info about the natural approach.

Seeing a reference from someone like you or arc helps.

[big nasty kcnut]

You want to talk about gross i had to see this guy wearing a button shirt with his gut hanging out. I almost threw up there.

[BIG_DADDY]

I believe it. It's just hard to find reliable info about the natural approach.

Seeing a reference from someone like you or arc helps.

YOu just have to kind of take it one step at a time. There is bad information out there but there is alot more disinformation put out by the big companies trying to call anyone a quack that questions them or the FDA. THe Naturopath that is working with pops has his blood pressure lower than he can ever remember and did that in a matter of weeks. I still have a lot to learn. The deeper you get into it though the more you realize just how ****ed up everything is. That much I know for sure.

[runnercyclist]

I resemble this remark. BTW what are bitch bellies?

[Jenson71]

Just trying to find out about the water dick head.

I wouldn't do that, if I were you, kittykat.

http://cache.filmz.dk/2826_272x154.jpg

[BIG_DADDY]

I resemble this remark. BTW what are bitch bellies?

OK bitch belly the lower abdominal fat some women get but not usually men. In this picture it is the lower roll. Lots of guys get beer guts but they never get that lower roll, that's bitch belly. Guys who get it have no muscle tone whatsoever. They usually have tiny arms or ones with that jiggley shit flapping around the tricep region that only women usually get as well. Their basically fat women with a penis.

[FAX]

OK bitch belly the lower abdominal fat some women get but not usually men. In this picture it is the lower roll. Lots of guys get beer guts but they never get that lower roll, that's bitch belly. Guys who get it have no muscle tone whatsoever. They usually have tiny arms or ones with that jiggley shit flapping around the tricep region that only women usually get as well. Their basically fat women with a penis.

This is, perhaps, the most comprehensive and precise definition of "bitch belly" I have ever read.

Thank you, Mr. BIG_DADDY.

FAX

[sedated]

I think this topic has way more to do with people being fat and out of shape, rather than estrogen in the water (and other various conspiracy theories)

[Hammock Parties]

I hear BIG_DADDY is better than alot of folks out there.

[jiveturkey]

I can't believe it. There's mother ****in' corn syrup in my Italian salad dressing.

WTF!!! :cuss:

[Logical]

what's a "bitch belly"?I am glad I am not the only one who does not know.

[el borracho]

OK bitch belly the lower abdominal fat some women get but not usually men. In this picture it is the lower roll. Lots of guys get beer guts but they never get that lower roll, that's bitch belly. Guys who get it have no muscle tone whatsoever. They usually have tiny arms or ones with that jiggley shit flapping around the tricep region that only women usually get as well. Their basically fat women with a penis.
Looks like a beanbag with arms and legs.