****Official WS Game 2 Thread****

[Marcellus]

Any chance the Cards can hit a lefty tonight?

I say not really, but it will be a tight game. Tigers hitting still struggles.

[siberian khatru]

Tynes belts one to DEEP center field ...!

[Marcellus]

Tynes belts one to DEEP center field ...!

Maybe Tynes has been watching Rolen. Choke, choke, boom.

[PunkinDrublic]

**** I hate the Cardinals why do they have to come so close to winning it every year. They scare the shit out of me.

[Marcellus]

**** I hate the Cardinals why do they have to come so close to winning it every year. They scare the shit out of me.

Yup. Chiefs & Cardinals = Pepto & Nitro

['Hamas' Jenkins]

I went to a Cards/Tigers game in June where they faced Rogers, and they had a good deal of success against him. I think they *can* hit him, whether or not they do is a different story.

[Marcellus]

I hope the "new" Weaver shows up again. The Cards pitching is just defying the odds so far.

Carp has been their biggest let down though I think he will be fine in the WS. That said he hasn't sucked he he just hasnt been lights out.

[Marcellus]

Hope I can stay sober through this. After the Chiefs game I had to start drinking H20. My heart or liver can't take too much more today.

[ChiefsCountry]

I hope the Tigers beat the crap out of them, I can't stand Cardinals fans.

[Marcellus]

I hope the Tigers beat the crap out of them, I can't stand Cardinals fans.


Good for you.

[Marcellus]

Lets get going already.

[Marcellus]

30 degrees at gametime with the wind chill. WOW.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

This shit is ridiculous. Let's move game 2 to a tropical location, like St. Louis.

[Marcellus]

Gonna be lots of stinging hands tonight.

[Deberg_1990]

This shit is ridiculous. Let's move game 2 to a tropical location, like St. Louis.

Ever since they added the extra round of the playoffs it keeps pushing the season back farther and farther....Baseball should not be played in cold weather...its just ridculus. I remember that Indians/Marlins series in 97 when it snowed in Cleveland.

[tk13]

I'm rooting for snowflakes.

[Rain Man]

I didn't realize that was a real song. I always thought it was just an ad jingle.

[Miles]

I went to a Cards/Tigers game in June where they faced Rogers, and they had a good deal of success against him. I think they *can* hit him, whether or not they do is a different story.

Hopefully they will remember some of the adjustments they made for Glavin's second start.

[Miles]

Is this bitch ever going to start?

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Anita Baker, breaking out Beavis' haircut.

[Marcellus]

Hopefully they will remember some of the adjustments they made for Glavin's second start.

They hit the ball the other way a lot against Glavine.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

That's the key to tonight...going to the opposite field.

[tk13]

Aaron Miles starting at 2B, there's an interesting move.

[ArrowheadHawk]

here is probably a dumb question but in the world series do they use a DH or does the Pitcher Hit?

[Marcellus]

In the AL park they have a DH. In the NL. NO.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

WHAT THE F*CK THAT CHEATING DONK ROGERS IS USING PINE TAR!!

[Miles]

Aaron Miles starting at 2B, there's an interesting move.

Probably some microstats on Bellard vs Rodgers for LaRussa to bench the better hitter and defensive 2B.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Aaron Miles starting at 2B, there's an interesting move.

It's actually a good move. He was hot the last of the year and Belliard doesn't hit lefties overly well.

[Miles]

here is probably a dumb question but in the world series do they use a DH or does the Pitcher Hit?

Both. DH in is used in the AL park.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Encarnacion is a complete and utter joke.

[Marcellus]

Why not put Spezio in the 4 spot if he is hitting .390 against Rogers?

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Why not put Spezio in the 4 spot if he is hitting 390 against Rogers?

Why not take Enarnacion down in the tunnel and shoot him like a rabid skunk in between innings. And there is no reason (even given his splits against LHP) that Wilson should be in this game. He was HORRENDOUS in the LCS.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Goddammit. Monroe is locked in right now :shake:

[ArrowheadHawk]

1-0 Tigers

[ArrowheadHawk]

2-0 Tigers

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Congratulations, you can count.

[ArrowheadHawk]

Congratulations, you can count.
what good is a WS thread if you don't post the score?

['Hamas' Jenkins]

what good is a WS thread if you don't post the score?

You can add a little analysis other than the painfully obvious. Like "Weaver throws a gopher ball to Monroe who just beats the piss out of it" or "Ordonez hits a dying quail for a single that's followed up by a double in the gap" etc.

It's more me being pissed at the results of the game than anything. My apologies

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Rogers should be thrown out of the game and suspended for the rest of the series. That's complete bullshit.

[WilliamTheIrish]

F'ing LaLoser. Sit the f*ck down before the fans of Detroit ass rape you with razor wire condoms.
F'ing Klown.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

F'ing LaLoser. Sit the f*ck down before the fans of Detroit ass rape you with razor wire condoms.
F'ing Klown.

Bullshit. I'm sure you felt the same way when the Broncos were spraying Pam on their jerseys in the 97 playoff game.

[WilliamTheIrish]

Bullshit. I'm sure you felt the same way when the Broncos were spraying Pam on their jerseys in the 97 playoff game.

I'm sorry Mrs LaRussa...

['Hamas' Jenkins]

I'm sorry Mrs LaRussa...

Dude, as a Chiefs fan, you should be the last f*cking person on earth to give him a hard time about that. It's blatant cheating. You may not like the Cardinals, and that's fine, but don't be a f*cking hypocrite.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

These punching Judy hitters are getting flares to drop all over the place. That's 3 in the first 1 1/3 innings.

[Marcellus]

Yup. We need to get after Rogers. I think he can be had the second time through.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Yup. We need to get after Rogers. I think he can be had the second time through.

There shouldnt be a second time. MLB should nut up and suspend him the rest of the series as well as eject his dumb ass from this game.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Ordonez with another chunk jam shot :shake:

[BigRedChief]

This shit is ridiculous. Let's move game 2 to a tropical location, like St. Louis.

I'm there for game 4. PBJ

[WilliamTheIrish]

Weaver should just use Legos for a necklace next time.

Whadda taint.

[WilliamTheIrish]

Another kindergaden necklace...

I thought this was the show?

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Weaver should just use Legos for a necklace next time.

Whadda taint.

For an MLB player, it's a pretty normal looking necklace. It's not half as stupid as the one Guillen has on right now.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Ok...Kenny Rogers is a pitcher who has historically been three things...

1) Lights out before the AS Break
2) Terrible After
3) God Awful in the Post-season

Now, all of a sudden, the guy is unstoppable in post-season play, and he just happens to have a foreign substance appear on his hands in a World Series start

:hmmm: , oh well, it's not like he isn't a real stand up character guy....

[WilliamTheIrish]

For an MLB player, it's a pretty normal looking necklace. It's not half as stupid as the one Guillen has on right now.

No, it's a kindergaden necklace. However, the second necklace comment was referring to Guillen's.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Juan Encarnacion is the Kendrell Bell of the St. Louis Cardinals.

[WilliamTheIrish]

Why is Pudge Rodriguez a HOFer in McCarver's eyes?

"His feet are always under him when he throws."

Tim, shut up.

[WilliamTheIrish]

How many times has he called Kenny Rogers, "Steve" Rogers?

I may have to go to the radio...

[WilliamTheIrish]

Juan Encarnacion is the Kendrell Bell of the St. Louis Cardinals.

ROFL

[WilliamTheIrish]

Molina took that in the pouch..

[WilliamTheIrish]

Run out there and complain Tony...

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Detroit has a horseshoe up their ass tonight...their pitcher is cheating, their flares are dropping, every soft liner has eyes.


Whatcha gonna do :shrug:

['Hamas' Jenkins]

We're just falling apart :shake:

[WilliamTheIrish]

Juiced...

[WilliamTheIrish]

Big K...

[WilliamTheIrish]

Pop up to 6.

[WilliamTheIrish]

Polanco you woos.. take that ski mask off.

[ChiefsCountry]

Weaver got out of a big jam.

[WilliamTheIrish]

Weaver lives...

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Huuuuge Escape by Weaver. Hopefully our bats wake up now.

[WilliamTheIrish]

Ok...Kenny Rogers is a pitcher who has historically been three things...

1) Lights out before the AS Break
2) Terrible After
3) God Awful in the Post-season

Now, all of a sudden, the guy is unstoppable in post-season play, and he just happens to have a foreign substance appear on his hands in a World Series start

:hmmm: , oh well, it's not like he isn't a real stand up character guy....

You forgot one:

He was incredibly successful in New York...

[WilliamTheIrish]

Weaver looks like a pasty zombie.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

You forgot one:

He was incredibly successful in New York...

Like when he shit all over himself in the PS?

[WilliamTheIrish]

I'll bet Leyland hit the 1-2-3 hitters with some kind of tirade after those AB's

['Hamas' Jenkins]

William, He was 18-15 w/ an ERA over 5 in NY. He sucked.

[WilliamTheIrish]

Like when he shit all over himself in the PS?

Sarcasm, Tony.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Sarcasm, Tony.

Ok. Given your anti-cards stance, I can't take everything at face value.

[WilliamTheIrish]

Ok. Given your anti-cards stance, I can't take everything at face value.

See, I'm not really an anti cards guy.

However, I hate LaRussa. From the time he was the Sox skipper in the AL West way back when.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

One hit, that's all we got, one goddamned hit?

[2112]

Kenny ****in Rogers looking like Sandy Koufax :shake: :shake: :shake:

Unbelievable :shake: :cuss:

[WilliamTheIrish]

And as much as I dislike 'Steve' Rogers, that was a nice snag...

[ChiefsCountry]

Ok. Given your anti-cards stance, I can't take everything at face value.

I'm not either, I like the team its just that I know way to many Card fans who are complete a$$holes and it would deserve them right to lose. Actually most of you guys on here are pretty cool for Cardinals fans.

[WilliamTheIrish]

20 straight scoreless innings for 'Steve' Rogers.

[WilliamTheIrish]

Nice play stain.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

I'm not either, I like the team its just that I know way to many Card fans who are complete a$$holes and it would deserve them right to lose. Actually most of you guys on here are pretty cool for Cardinals fans.

A conundrum. I understand where you are coming from, but it's still frustrating as a passionate Cards fan to hear people bash them (If you don't like Tony, that's OK, and I can see why you could have issues against Rolen if you're a Philly fan, or Edmonds' theatrics) for little to no reason.

Great play by Eckstein to save a hit.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Kenny ****in Rogers looking like Sandy Koufax :shake: :shake: :shake:

Unbelievable :shake: :cuss:

Encarnacion loafing to that ball didn't f*cking help either...god I hate that guy.

[WilliamTheIrish]

I wonder if Pudge asked Yadi how his testes are feeling?

[ChiefsCountry]

It was a good play by Eckstein. I think he would make a great 2b.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

I would take Mario f*cking Mendoza over Encarnacion right now.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

I wonder if Pudge asked Yadi how his testes are feeling?

Yadi would beat that formerly roided-up cocksucker's ass. Balco Pudge is an asshat.

[ChiefsCountry]

I understand where you are coming from, but it's still frustrating as a passionate Cards fan to hear people bash them


Welcome to the 24/7 life of a Royals fan.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Nice swing THG boy, you swung "Clear" through that one, motherf*cker. 4321 ROFL

[WilliamTheIrish]

McCarver: "Casey can't turn on the ball due to his calf injury".

Casey rips a high fastball to RF...

[siberian khatru]

3-0 feels like 8-0 the way Rogers is pitching.

[StcChief]

Rogers seems to have Cards number...maybe we can get to reliever tonite.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Killer hit there by a banged up Casey...you can't let a one dimensional hitter like that get a big hit off of you.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

3-0 feels like 8-0 the way Rogers is pitching.

Hopefully Eckstein or Spezio can get on so Pujols can see something to hit this AB.

[WilliamTheIrish]

Killer hit there by a banged up Casey...you can't let a one dimensional hitter like that get a big hit off of you.

This is Jeff Weaver you're watching. I can't believe he's had this much success in the post season.

[2112]

Killer hit there by a banged up Casey...you can't let a one dimensional hitter like that get a big hit off of you.
Weaver pitched great up until Casey..Casey can not hit the fastball right now..WTF is Weaver doing throwing him off speed shit?? :cuss: :cuss:

['Hamas' Jenkins]

If I'm a Cardinal, I throw my bat at Rogers on a "missed pitch" as retribution for that Pine Tar bullshit.

[WilliamTheIrish]

9 hits through 5. He's lucky it's this close.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

This is Jeff Weaver you're watching. I can't believe he's had this much success in the post season.

He's got good stuff, with a good catcher and pitching coach, he can be very dependable. There is a huge difference between having a moron like Posada calling a game for you, and Molina.

Eckstein swinging on the first pitch like a dumbass :shake: he's been terrible.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

9 hits through 5. He's lucky it's this close.

4 of those hits aren't usually hits.

[WilliamTheIrish]

Tony should pay a cameraman to gout to the mound.. That'll get him suspended.

[WilliamTheIrish]

4 of those hits aren't usually hits.

Meh. A hit's a hit. Seeing eye hits all count.

[WilliamTheIrish]

Can we get back to the F'ing game?

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Meh. A hit's a hit. Seeing eye hits all count.

:shake:

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Brain this motherf*cker, Albert.

[WilliamTheIrish]

FOX sucks. If I want to watch peope with towels I'll turn on Cinemax after Dark.

How about you f*ckwits just put the gd camera facing the field?

[siberian khatru]

Shit

['Hamas' Jenkins]

God, hard hit right at the LFer :banghead:

[2112]

I think Rogers was scuffing the ball..he looks like the old Kenny right now!!!

['Hamas' Jenkins]

I think Rogers was scuffing the ball..he looks like the old Kenny right now!!!

From vivaelbirdos:

Hekeeps going to the dark spot on what should be a brand new hat, and rubbing the ball on the inside of his glove, as well as running out to the mound with it always facing up, so that nothing can fall out of it.

[ChiefsCountry]

wow, the gambler is on tonight

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Another observation:

[new] Now I know he's doctoring the ball.
Did you see Pudge jump to get that foul tip out of play before the ump picked it up? He's done that with at least 10 balls tonight.

[2112]

From vivaelbirdos:

Hekeeps going to the dark spot on what should be a brand new hat, and rubbing the ball on the inside of his glove, as well as running out to the mound with it always facing up, so that nothing can fall out of it.
He must be..unless he sold his soul to the devil for this postseason

[WilliamTheIrish]

From vivaelbirdos:

Hekeeps going to the dark spot on what should be a brand new hat, and rubbing the ball on the inside of his glove, as well as running out to the mound with it always facing up, so that nothing can fall out of it.


Good Lord..I may have to troll that site.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Rule 8.02 The pitcher shall not --
(b) Have on his person, or in his possession, any foreign substance. For such infraction of this section (b) the penalty shall be immediate ejection from the game. In addition, the pitcher shall be suspended automatically for 10 games.

In my opinion, Rogers shouldn't have pitched the 2nd inning. Nor should he pitch in game 6 if needed. I don't know, isn't having foreign substance on your palm on national TV enough?

[WilliamTheIrish]

Rule 8.02 The pitcher shall not --
(b) Have on his person, or in his possession, any foreign substance. For such infraction of this section (b) the penalty shall be immediate ejection from the game. In addition, the pitcher shall be suspended automatically for 10 games.

In my opinion, Rogers shouldn't have pitched the 2nd inning. Nor should he pitch in game 6 if needed. I don't know, isn't having foreign substance on your palm on national TV enough?

It may have been an errant wipe of the arse.

[2112]

I used to watch Gaylord Perry do it all the time and not get caught..the only guy I saw get caught red handed was Don Sutton with the angels..he had a piece of sand paper on him..

['Hamas' Jenkins]

F*ck that cheating cocksucker.

[WilliamTheIrish]

I used to watch Gaylord Perry do it all the time and not get caught..the only guy I saw get caught red handed was Don Sutton with the angels..he had a piece of sand paper on him..

You don't remember Niekro and the emery board? Classic.

[WilliamTheIrish]

Yup. Looks like feces.

[WilliamTheIrish]

'Steve' Rogers is 5 innings away from tying the alltime playoff scoreless streak.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Yup. Looks like feces.

Look at his hand, not his face.

[WilliamTheIrish]

Look at his hand, not his face.

Brutal. LMAO

[WilliamTheIrish]

Molina says: Look Kinney, my nuts hurt. I don't wanna come out here again. Throw stikes, dumbass.

[ChiefsCountry]

As Royals fans we like pine tar :)

[ChiefsCountry]

I saw Kinney play here in Springfield for the Double A team.

[WilliamTheIrish]

Well this pitching move is a thing of genious thus far.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

This is not the Josh Kinney I know and love :Lin: a wee bit nervous tonight.

[WilliamTheIrish]

Kinney gets out of a mini jam...

['Hamas' Jenkins]

I just sent the Kenny Rogers pic along with a profanity laced tirade to deadspin....should be interesting. I'm sure ESP-NY will be all over Kenny's dick after the game, though.

[siberian khatru]

I used to watch Gaylord Perry do it all the time and not get caught..the only guy I saw get caught red handed was Don Sutton with the angels..he had a piece of sand paper on him..

Rick Honeycutt with a thumbtack, I believe at Royals Stadium, back around 1980.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Encarnacion is the worst player I've ever seen in my entire life. He makes me yearn for Reggie Sanders.

[WilliamTheIrish]

Hey did you just see Pudge run after that foul tip by Encarnation?

Neither did I.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Making me proud Juan :thumb:

[WilliamTheIrish]

FOX making Rogers out to be a character guy?

I've heard it all now...

['Hamas' Jenkins]

FOX making Rogers out to be a character guy?

I've heard it all now...

If I could watch anyone who is currently active in MLB be put in a "Saw" type situation, it would be him.

[WilliamTheIrish]

If I could watch anyone who is currently active in MLB be put in a "Saw" type situation, it would be him.

I completely agree. His cameraman incident aside, Rogers has had multiple 'anger management' situations throughout his career.

He's a prick, plain and simple.

[WilliamTheIrish]

Oh, and Preston Wilson jogging to 1b on the ground ball that bobbled 70 times makes me wonder about his brain pan.

[WilliamTheIrish]

And another thing, take these American Idol losers and shove them up your collective sigmoid colon, FOX sports.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Oh, and Preston Wilson jogging to 1b on the ground ball that bobbled 70 times makes me wonder about his brain pan.

That's why we should have started Taguchi and Spezio on the corner outfield spots and had Duncan DH, even though his splits against LHP aren't great. Encarnacion and Wilson are the two worst guys on our team right now, automatic outs, who don't hustle and play poor defense.

[WilliamTheIrish]

I'm not going to make fun of Guillen's necklace any more..

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Nice job "Latino Heat". F*ck you, pudge nlm

[WilliamTheIrish]

5-4-3 DP by Roidriguez

[WilliamTheIrish]

So, what camera assaulter's pitch count? Does Leyland let him pitch?

I do. But first sign of trouble...

['Hamas' Jenkins]

87 pitches for Captain Asshat (who's too much of a pussy shit bitch to try any of his theatrics on the road, save for him taking one on his chin)

[WilliamTheIrish]

At least Eck took one pitch before GIDP'ing.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Eckstein has been so bad, Tony might want to think about putting Miles in his spot :shake:

[siberian khatru]

I'd let Rogers at least start the 9th. Why not?

It's gonna be high-larious if Jones blows this.

[WilliamTheIrish]

Yay Tony, Change pitchers in -6* weather so you can get Curtis (o-for) Granderson out.

Twit.

[siberian khatru]

Yay Tony, Change pitchers in -6* weather so you can get Curtis (o-for) Granderson out.

Twit.

Managing is SERIOUS business. It takes macho men like Tony to do it.

[WilliamTheIrish]

I'd let Rogers at least start the 9th. Why not?

It's gonna be high-larious if Jones blows this.

I feel the same way. But Leyland is a pretty solid manager.

[WilliamTheIrish]

Managing is SERIOUS business. It takes macho men like Tony to do it.

Say that with sunglasses on. In Detroit. at 10:00 pm.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

I don't mind him getting Wainwright some work so he can at least pitch in a non-pressure situation in the WS.

[WilliamTheIrish]

That was cetainly worth waitng for.

I wonder if Tony is endorsding any of these products?

[siberian khatru]

Say that with sunglasses on. In Detroit. at 10:00 pm.

If your aura was as bright as Tony's, you'd wear sunglasses too.

[WilliamTheIrish]

I don't mind him getting Wainwright some work so he can at least pitch in a non-pressure situation in the WS.

Those 4 pitches should help.

[tk13]

Managing is SERIOUS business. It takes macho men like Tony to do it.
I'd like to see you come down to his office and say that to his face.

[WilliamTheIrish]

Here comes Jones... Suddenly I have an uneasy feeling about this inning.

[siberian khatru]

I'd like to see you come down to his office and say that to his face.

Remember that "Be a man, Tony! Be a man!" confrontation with some sportwriter years ago?

[WilliamTheIrish]

If your aura was as bright as Tony's, you'd wear sunglasses too.

My aura is somehting that happens right before my seizure..

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Every f*cking ball we hit is right at someone :shake: Just like game 1 of the NLCS :banghead:

[WilliamTheIrish]

More brilliance form McCarver: "Don't want to walk him."

['Hamas' Jenkins]

I may well drive to detroit (about 70 miles) and cleave Rogers' head in two with a splitting maul.

[siberian khatru]

Now comes the Jones implosion.

[WilliamTheIrish]

Was that considered a hit?

[siberian khatru]

Oh, wait, Ency's up. Game over.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Yeah right...Encarnacion is up...he's the worst player in this series.

[siberian khatru]

HAHA! Here comes the Edmonds bomb!

['Hamas' Jenkins]

LOL HOLY SHIT!!

[WilliamTheIrish]

Jones.... chuckle..

Hey, is that a hit too..

['Hamas' Jenkins]

C'mon Jimmy...

['Hamas' Jenkins]

You gotta PH Duncan here.

[tk13]

Hahaha... high drama now. I'd PH Chris Duncan right here.

[siberian khatru]

I love Todd Jones

[ChiefsCountry]

Crap the Tigers are trying to blow this.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

WILSON WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[WilliamTheIrish]

This is great!!

[siberian khatru]

High comedy

['Hamas' Jenkins]

C'mon yadi...

[tk13]

Or not. Another reason LaRussa is a brilliant manager... uh, yeah...

[WilliamTheIrish]

Tony goes out to see if he can help Wilson sue Jones...

[WilliamTheIrish]

Roger has killed a camera man as I undersatnd it...

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Well...even with that happening, I'm sure Jones is going to be brimming with confidence.

[siberian khatru]

I honestly thought the Cards would beat Jones.

[WilliamTheIrish]

Well...even with that happening, I'm sure Jones is going to be brimming with confidence.

Are you kidding? That inning was a JOnes specialty.

[tk13]

I don't like that move. Duncan's your best available hitter, you gotta use him there somewhere. Even if he just ties it and costs you Molina.

[WilliamTheIrish]

So Kenny, what was that substance on your hand?

Kenny: F you!!!

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Kenny, guess what, f*ck your mom and dad, they raised an asshole. Piss off.

[siberian khatru]

Rogers has parents? I thought he was spawned from a pool of bile and mucous.

[ChiefsCountry]

LaRussa - the Marty Schottenheimer of MLB

[WilliamTheIrish]

I don't like that move. Duncan's your best available hitter, you gotta use him there somewhere. Even if he just ties it and costs you Molina.

You don't wear sunglasses at night, so I can so I can...

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Are you kidding? That inning was a JOnes specialty.

He's going to get destroyed the next time he comes in with that shit.

[siberian khatru]

OMG, he just punched Chris Meyers!

[2112]

That jerkoff Kenny Rogers makes me want to puke!!!

The #1 cheerleading shit is old..in 96 during the parade..he was acting like he singlehandedly won the WS for the Yanks..

The Cardinals have to win

['Hamas' Jenkins]

I like how Rogers just blatantly lied to Myers about the substance on his hand. Ridiculous.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

That jerkoff Kenny Rogers makes me want to puke!!!

The #1 cheerleading shit is old..in 96 during the parade..he was acting like he singlehandedly won the WS for the Yanks..

The Cardinals have to win

I have much more faith in our ability to win this series than I did two days ago. This team doesn't scare me. They're good, but they are beatable.

[WilliamTheIrish]

He's going to get destroyed the next time he comes in with that shit.

You barely strung together 3 hits that collectively wouldn't have reached the wall.

And he may have done you a favor. With luck, he broke Wilson's hand and you won't have to see him any more.

[StcChief]

So Kenny, what was that substance on your hand?

Kenny: F you!!!
Yeah. Kenny had our number tonite. Congrats to Tigers.

LaRussa didn't make to much of it or he would have been out there before end first half inning at bat.
What is the penalty if foreign substance is found on a pitcher during the game....

[WilliamTheIrish]

Now for the important stuff. Which American Idol loser will sing the anthem in StL?

[ChiefsCountry]

Now for the important stuff. Which American Idol loser will sing the anthem in StL?

Ozzie's boy

[WilliamTheIrish]

Yeah. Kenny had our number tonite. Congrats to Tigers.

LaRussa didn't make to much of it or he would have been out there before end first half inning at bat.
What is the penalty if foreign substance is found on a pitcher during the game....

The penalty tonight was 8 innings, two hits and 0 runs.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

The penalty is automatic ejection and 10 game suspension. :rolleyes:

[BigRedChief]

The penalty tonight was 8 innings, two hits and 0 runs.

The dude was nails. As soon as they took him out we started hitting the ball. Major props to Kenny even though he's an asshole.

I didn't think we had a chance in this series but the Tigers ain't all that. We get the next two with our best then we just have to get one out of 3 games. Thats doable.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

He went from pinetar to scuffing. We lost, but we got the split. Hopefully Kenny will be impaled by a broken bat should he pitch again in this series.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Kruk is standing up for the bullshit of Rogers. F*ck that motherf*cker.

[tk13]

Kruk is standing up for the bullshit of Rogers. F*ck that motherf*cker.
You think so? He said if the umps told him to go wash that off, it's ridiculous and he should be suspended.

[WilliamTheIrish]

Kruk is standing up for the bullshit of Rogers. F*ck that motherf*cker.

The whole world is against us.

-Cards fan

['Hamas' Jenkins]

You think so? He said if the umps told him to go wash that off, it's ridiculous and he should be suspended.

The diction of that post isn't clear I meant he's standing up for St.L regarding the bullshit of Rogers. The f*ck that motherf*cker was directed to the "PineTarrer"

['Hamas' Jenkins]

A big clump of yellowish dirt in an infield that is all light light brown.

Take a MAN AT HIS WORD MY F*CKING ASS!

['Hamas' Jenkins]

"Preston hasn't hit the ball since he's been with the Astros"

LMAO...classic.

[WilliamTheIrish]

The diction of that post isn't clear I meant he's standing up for St.L regarding the bullshit of Rogers. The f*ck that motherf*cker was directed to the "PineTarrer"

Thanks... now I may have to edit my smart ass post.

[tk13]

Steve Palmermo says the umpire told Rogers to wash his hands. Said he had dirt on his hand, Cards didn't file a formal complaint. Contradicts what Kenny Rogers said. Also contradicts what Jim Leyland said, he was told the Cards were complaining.

[StcChief]

I guess the 'substance' wasn't a factor, since he washed it off.

It looked like dirt when they first showed it, but made instantly made me think it could be something else. But on the heel of his thumb is really pretty obvious.

[teedubya]

I nominate Marcellus to start all threads for Official World Series games.

[Ultra Peanut]

Ok...Kenny Rogers is a pitcher who has historically been three things...

1) Lights out before the AS Break
2) Terrible After
3) God Awful in the Post-season

Now, all of a sudden, the guy is unstoppable in post-season play, and he just happens to have a foreign substance appear on his hands in a World Series start

:hmmm: , oh well, it's not like he isn't a real stand up character guy....I hope his performance the rest of the way gave you at least the slightest bit of pause.

Oops, guess not.

From FJM:

2. Even I'm tired of typing the words "small sample size." But it seems the likeliest explanation for how notorious playoff choker Kenny Rogers is now clutch playoff hero Kenny Rogers. Up until this year, Kenny had been horrendous in the playoffs -- for exactly 20 and 1/3 innings. So we all knew he couldn't get it done under the bright lights of the postseason. Until now, right after he puts together a crazy 23-inning scoreless streak. Here's something, though -- the aggregate of the two Kennys? A total playoff ERA of 4.15. Kenny's career regular season ERA? 4.19.

[Halfcan]

I hate the Tigers-dirty cheaters.

[BigRedChief]

I guess the 'substance' wasn't a factor, since he washed it off.

It looked like dirt when they first showed it, but made instantly made me think it could be something else. But on the heel of his thumb is really pretty obvious.

Yeah the "Foreign Substance" wasn't why he was nails but it was a "Foreign Substance" not dirt. As the ESPN baseball tonight announcers said it was the same "dirt" he's had on his hand in the same spot for the last three games.

The penalty for having a "Foreign Substance" on yourself while pitching is automatic ejection and a 10 game suspension. Why wasn't he checked by the umps? Instead he was told to wash it off?

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Rogers' entire press conference afterwards was bullshit. He directly contradicted himself several times about the pine tar (when he played dumb on fox) then said it was "dirt". Look at the color of the dirt on the Mound at Comerica, then the color of his heel pad, they are totally different hues. The guy's a cheat, and a world class prick. He should be gone for the rest of the series.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

One more thing:

If I'm Chris Carpenter, the first pitch Nate Robertson sees at Busch is going to be right in his earhole. Same for every other Tigers starter at Busch. If that sack of shit Rogers, is such a goddamned coward that he feels like he has to cheat to gain an advantage, and too much of a c*nt to pitch on the road, well then his buddies will get the punishment in his proxy.

[Eleazar]

Who knew, it's the world series, and cards fans berginers' are sucking up sand like an Oreck XL.

[BigRedChief]

One more thing:

If I'm Chris Carpenter, the first pitch Nate Robertson sees at Busch is going to be right in his earhole. Same for every other Tigers starter at Busch. If that sack of shit Rogers, is such a goddamned coward that he feels like he has to cheat to gain an advantage, and too much of a c*nt to pitch on the road, well then his buddies will get the punishment in his proxy.

Did he cheat? Probably but thats not why we lost. After the second inning the dude was still nails. And it wasn't our bats as soon as he come out we started hitting the ball. I disagree with intentionally throwing at players expecially head shots.

[Eleazar]

Did he cheat? Probably but thats not why we lost. After the second inning the dude was still nails.

Exactly, it was gone by the second inning IIRC, and he was still lights out.

[WilliamTheIrish]

One more thing:

If I'm Chris Carpenter, the first pitch Nate Robertson sees at Busch is going to be right in his earhole. Same for every other Tigers starter at Busch. If that sack of shit Rogers, is such a goddamned coward that he feels like he has to cheat to gain an advantage, and too much of a c*nt to pitch on the road, well then his buddies will get the punishment in his proxy.

Mr. Clean Baseball LaRussa would never allow that. He doesn't condone cheating.

Unless you count McGwire. And Canseco.

[BigRedChief]

Mr. Clean Baseball LaRussa would never allow that. He doesn't condone cheating.

Unless you count McGwire. And Canseco.

The pics as per ESPN. Looks like pine tar to me not dirt. First one is from the ALCS and the second one is from last night.
http://espn-ak.starwave.com/photo/2006/1023/mlb_rogers_hand_comparison_275.jpg

[WilliamTheIrish]

The pics as per ESPN. Looks like pine tar to me not dirt. First one is from the ALCS and the second one is from last night.
http://espn-ak.starwave.com/photo/2006/1023/mlb_rogers_hand_comparison_275.jpg

Looks like it could be anything. Betadine. Fecal material. And to be honest, I don't care. It was gone in the 2nd inning.



Did he cheat? Probably but thats not why we lost. After the second inning the dude was still nails.

[Eleazar]

I don't even really like the fact that Fox went to such trouble to sic the umpire on him. The media shouldn't be influencing the game in that way. If the players spot it then fine, but they may as well have called LaRussa direct from the both and told him to have the umpire check his hand, because there's a chance they could get him thrown out of the game.

If Fox is going to be the rules police, why don't we just get rid of the umpires altogether? Questec can call the balls and strikes, and Joe Buck can call 'safe' or 'out' on the basebaths by pressing a button in front of him after watching 6 or 7 replays of every play. You'd probably get every call right all year long.

[siberian khatru]

Fecal material.

ROFL

That's what I was thinking too. But then, what do you expect from an asshole?

[WilliamTheIrish]

I don't even really like the fact that Fox went to such trouble to sic the umpire on him. The media shouldn't be influencing the game in that way. If the players spot it then fine, but they may as well have called LaRussa direct from the both and told him to have the umpire check his hand, because there's a chance they could get him thrown out of the game.

If Fox is going to be the rules police, why don't we just get rid of the umpires altogether? Questec can call the balls and strikes, and Joe Buck can call 'safe' or 'out' on the basebaths by pressing a button in front of him after watching 6 or 7 replays of every play. You'd probably get every call right all year long.


Better yet, just have the stars of Prison Break make the calls from the booth.

[Eleazar]

Better yet, just have the stars of Prison Break make the calls from the booth.

I'm just saying, when the TV decides to point out something unnoticed by players, then they have influenced the game. It introduces innumerable people outside the game with unknown biases into the enforcement of the rules.

If he was cheating he should have been thrown out. But it's the umpire and the players' job to play the game and decide the outcome, not Joe Buck and Fox.

The game should play out the way that it would if there was no TV present at all.

[WilliamTheIrish]

I'm just saying, when the TV decides to point out something unnoticed by players, then they have influenced the game. It introduces innumerable people outside the game with unknown biases into the enforcement of the rules.

If he was cheating he should have been thrown out. But it's the umpire and the players' job to play the game and decide the outcome, not Joe Buck and Fox.

The game should play out the way that it would if there was no TV present at all.

I'm with you all the way. FOX dumps their quick shots of stars of some show I'll never watch:

Joe Buck: "And there's Mr. X, star of Prison Break in the crowd tonight."

FOX just intrudes on the game. It bothers me a great deal.

Christ, it's bad enough I have to listen Joe Buck muffle his cheering for the Cards and listen to McCarver regale me with tales of when he was "Bob Gibson's personal catcher", then listen to him call Kenny Rogers "Steve" all night.

Sorry, I've drifted. Was there a question?