***Official Notre Dame vs. USC Game Thread***

[OnTheWarpath15]

Just under an hour to kickoff......

Obviously a HUGE game for USC. Win and there's a trip to Glendale with your name on it. Lose, and in all probability Michigan gets the nod.

As much as I hate to say it, I think USC wins this game and covers. (-7)

My Irish haven't shown me that they can stop elite receivers, and tonight they face 2. IF, and a big if, they can keep Jarrett and Smith in check, then ND has a real shot at this game.

It's a huge rivalry and I hope ND is fired up to play, even though they have zero chance of jumping Michigan even with a blowout win. Looks like the Sugar Bowl win or lose.....

Good luck Mecca and the other USC fans......

GO IRISH!!

[chagrin]

Excellent sig picture, dude


I for one, am not ready for 4 more hours of USC lobbying and slobber, so I will watch the game only, should be a good one.

[Bowser]

Notre Dame is the most overrated college football team in all of history. [/Mecca]

[Demonpenz]

Anyword if jesus is going to play?

[JBucc]

I predict both QB's will have bad days but ND will not be able to stop USC's run game. Condoms win 28-16

[OnTheWarpath15]

Notre Dame is the most overrated college football team in all of history. [/Mecca]


LMAO LMAO LMAO

Where is Mecca, anyway?

[OnTheWarpath15]

Excellent sig picture, dude

Stole it from a pic DaFace took at the game.

Had intended to take a similar picture from on top of the hill where Phil tailgates, but left my camera behind by accident.

[Mecca]

LMAO LMAO LMAO

Where is Mecca, anyway?

I just got out of the shower and back from the store......I was off getting refreshments.

I expect a pretty good game, USCs defense while very good is full of young players, I'm not real sure about covering but I give USC the nod by being at home and well we haven't lost at home in 5 years.

[OnTheWarpath15]

I guess it's about time to grab some leftovers and head down for the game......

I'll be back at halftime.....

GO IRISH!

[DomerNKC]

GO IRISH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[noa]

Nice catch by #5

[JBucc]

Samarddijza is stumbling all over himself

[noa]

Bad pass Brady

[Crush]

USC is making it look easy so far.

[Crush]

Touchdown USC. That was almost too easy.

[Crush]

Blowout in the making.

[Crush]

Wow USC is going to blow this sure TD.

[Mecca]

Jarrett baby...

[Crush]

Never mind, TD USC. 14-0.

[Bowser]

Do the Notre Dame players know that they have a game to play tonight?

[NUMBER7]

USC at home against another overrated opponent. At least Wake vs. MD will be competitive....ESPN.

[Crush]

Ran right by the blitz.

[Crush]

He dropped that one.

[Crush]

Notre Dame is denied and has to settle for a FG. USC leads 14-3.

[Mecca]

Jarrett is just owning them.

[Ebolapox]

either USC has a QB tree they're growing them on that they aren't telling us about, or the notre dame defense SUCKS--I'm inclined to believe it's a bit of both

[Mecca]

either USC has a QB tree they're growing them on that they aren't telling us about, or the notre dame defense SUCKS--I'm inclined to believe it's a bit of both

A bit of both........Booty was the #1 QB recruit the year they got him, the guy behind him Mark Sanchez was 1st or 2nd depending on who's service you were looking at.

[Ebolapox]

god--who has a better job than pete carroll--the four and five star recruits just flock to him like they're metal shavings being attracted to an electromagnet, the weather is prime year round, the money's not too bad, and as long as he contends for the NC every other year or so, his job is solidly in place

[Mecca]

god--who has a better job than pete carroll--the four and five star recruits just flock to him like they're metal shavings being attracted to an electromagnet, the weather is prime year round, the money's not too bad, and as long as he contends for the NC every other year or so, his job is solidly in place

Well, it's his creation so he gets the spoils.......there's already 3, 5 star kids commited for next year.

[JBucc]

Nice play

[HolmeZz]

Gable grabs Zbikowski's facemask and Zbikowski gets called for the penalty.

[Crush]

Damn USC is about to score again.

[Crush]

TD USC 21-3.

[Mecca]

Gable grabs Zbikowski's facemask and Zbikowski gets called for the penalty.

Eh he put out the stiff arm he didn't "grab" it....although it looked like Zbikowski tried to rip Gables head off...

[Bowser]

Vegas Bookie: Hey Sal, how many people do we got bettin' the over?

Sal: You don't want to f*ckin' know.

[Crush]

It's time to open up the play book, Notre Dame. It's obvious that your defense sucks.

[Crush]

Nice throw and read, Brady, that could have been intercepted.

[JBucc]

Brady Young!

[Mecca]

Ugh just missed the sack.

[Crush]

You've got to be kidding, a 59 yd. run by Brady?

[Bowser]

You've got to be kidding, a 59 yd. run by Brady?

Who does he think he is? Rick Mirer?

[Mecca]

USC ball baby.

[Crush]

Notre Dame fumbles the disrupted draw and USC gets it back.

[Mecca]

Darius Walker not only turned it over he got injured.

[FAX]

I'm happy for you, Mr. Mecca.

But this is a stupid football game.

FAX

[Crush]

I'm happy for you, Mr. Mecca.

But this is a stupid football game.

FAX



I agree, Mr. FAX, Notre Dame acts like don't even belong there.

[Mecca]

I'm happy for you, Mr. Mecca.

But this is a stupid football game.

FAX

Ah cmon why is it stupid...watching ND get blown out is a treasure.

[Mecca]

The answer to that question is Kansas State so some people here will be happy.

[JBucc]

They stopped them!

[Mecca]

Ugh that sucked.

[JBucc]

OMG teh blockage!!

[kcxiv]

nice block.

[noa]

That ball was in the air forever after the block

[Crush]

Blocked, Notre Dame is in business.

[Crush]

TD Notre Dame 21-10.

[FAX]

Ah cmon why is it stupid...watching ND get blown out is a treasure.

Oh, I don't care about ND, Mr. Mecca.

It's just not competitive. This is a major mismatch. Unless ND gets extremely lucky, this isn't a game ... it's a baby beating.

FAX

[kcxiv]

Potential blow out turns into a game.

[NUMBER7]

Oh, I don't care about ND, Mr. Mecca.

It's just not competitive. This is a major mismatch. Unless ND gets extremely lucky, this isn't a game ... it's a baby beating.

FAX
:clap:

[Mecca]

He's down....

[Mecca]

God damn it...

[FAX]

Hmmm.

FAX

[pr_capone]

Irish showing signs of life with a blocked punt and a pick! :D

[kcxiv]

uh oh

[noa]

The tides may be turning

[Crush]

Yes, we actually have a game going. Time for a drink.

[pr_capone]

Yes, we actually have a game going. Time for a drink.

WAY ahead of ya.

[Mecca]

Yes, we actually have a game going. Time for a drink.

I'd rather a blowout...

[tk13]

What a horrible option play.

[Mecca]

Short......you can't steal USC's play.

[Mecca]

Going for it on 4th there was stupid....

[pr_capone]

I'd rather a blowjob...

FYP :D

[kcxiv]

Talk about dropping a easy catch.

[Mecca]

WTF is wrong with Booty....

[HolmeZz]

What a pick.

[FAX]

Best INT I've ever seen.

FAX

[tk13]

USC just wants to give this game away.

[kcxiv]

Wow, lol, this game is fun

[Tactical Funky]

Haha...

Yet another USC interception! What a stupid throw.

[Mecca]

Well this defense has to step up again.

[Crush]

Can Notre Dame actually do anything this time?

[FAX]

Well this defense has to step up again.

Beat the baby.

You should be ashamed.

FAX

[Mecca]

I'm getting really tired of this guy running around.

[Mecca]

ND is just gonna go for it on every 4th down apparently.

[kcxiv]

They are pretty deep, if they dont have a FG kicker that can make it from there, hell go for it.

[Mecca]

Give the ball back bitches.

[pr_capone]

I am beginning to wonder if ND is REQUIRED to run a draw play every 5-7th play.

BTW, doesnt ND have a soccer team??? Jeez... suit one of those guys up as a kicker! You have a kicker on the team who you dont trust to kick a FG unless its within 40 yards?!?!?!

[NUMBER7]

ND play calling is crap.

[kcxiv]

i dont watch much College ball, but does Quinn have a strong arm? that pass right there to the endzone look like a trent green pass with no steam on it lol

[Mecca]

That ND guy just tried to rip Gables head off....

[Crush]

ND play calling is crap.



I thought Weiss was an offensive genius?

[HolmeZz]

I thought Weiss was an offensive genius?

He is. The playcalling isn't the problem. It's been the execution.

[NUMBER7]

I thought Weiss was an offensive genius?

IMO the system and talent at NE made him look that way.

[Mecca]

ND just isn't use to facing the kind of talent USC is running out there.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Damn.....

I guess considering the way this thing started, I should feel pretty good. Several key drops from Rhema McKnight in key situations and some retarded playcalling is keeping this from being a much closer game.

Not sure why Pete Carroll got away from the vertical game in the 2nd quarter.....seemed like the only attempt to go downfield was the INT from Richardson.

[DomerNKC]

IMO the system and talent at NE made him look that way.weiss made tom brady, not the other way around.

[DomerNKC]

ND just isn't use to facing the kind of talent USC is running out there.we have played against that kind of talent for over a hundred years, dont get too full of yourself.

[Mecca]

we have played against that kind of talent for over a hundred years, dont get too full of yourself.

Well when you spend a month play teams like air force and army and navy........USC tends to be a bit of an upper on talent.

[HolmeZz]

ND just isn't use to facing the kind of talent USC is running out there.

Hardly. The ND defense has been bad all year. The only kind of talent you don't see every week is Jarrett.

[HolmeZz]

IMO the system and talent at NE made him look that way.

Umm, Weis was the system.

[Mecca]

Hardly. The ND defense has been bad all year. The only kind of talent you don't see every week is Jarrett.

Eh...there are alot of NFL players on this USC team...even though some of them are only freshman and sophomores.

[2112]

dont get too full of yourself.
You're right..Mecca,you should not forget that Michigan state game..this game is far from over..

[HolmeZz]

Eh...there are alot of NFL players on this USC team...even though some of them are only freshman and sophomores.

They'll be that caliber down the road. They're not at this point.

[DomerNKC]

Well when you spend a month play teams like air force and army and navy........USC tends to be a bit of an upper on talent.you guys were playing the far superior teams like washington state, washington, arizona state, oregon state, and stanford.

[2112]

IMO the system and talent at NE made him look that way.
:rolleyes: ..what???

[Mecca]

you guys were playing the far superior teams like washington state, washington, arizona state, oregon state, and stanford.

We have to play those teams their in our conference.......you on the other hand.

[Skip Towne]

Speaking of superior talent, I see Reggie Bush is averaging 2.9 ypc in 10 games this year. What's up with that?

[NUMBER7]

:rolleyes: ..what???

IMO NE had and still has a bunch of talented players; not only Tom Brady. Jees...IMO. I think any offensive coordinator would love to have that kind of talent on one team.

[Bob Dole]

ND just isn't use to facing the kind of talent USC is running out there.

They can't play The Greatest Team In All The Land every week.

Sheesh.

[HolmeZz]

IMO NE had and still has a bunch of talented players; not only Tom Brady. Jees...IMO. I think any offensive coordinator would love to have that kind of talent on one team.

What talent did they have on offense really? Their receivers weren't great. Their running back was Kevin Faulk. And their QB was some 6th round pick.

[Mecca]

And he kicks it out of bounds....thats bright.

[2112]

IMO NE had and still has a bunch of talented players; not only Tom Brady. Jees...IMO. I think any offensive coordinator would love to have that kind of talent on one team.
In 2001 they won the superbowl with an unproven nobody(Brady)..antoine smith at rb and no wide recievers..thats great coaching...sorry

[Mecca]

Jarrett just caught that with 1 hand.

[Crush]

What a catch.

[Mecca]

Chauncey...

[Frazod]

Well, that ought to about wrap things up.

[Crush]

Yes, we actually have a game going. Time for a drink.



So much for that game. 28-10, USC. Time for another drink.

[FAX]

Why do they even bother referring to them as the "Fighting" Irish anymore?

FAX

[Crush]

Pretty nice run there.

[Skip Towne]

So is Reggie Bush just the biggest bust since Ryan leaf then?

[Crush]

Why do they even bother referring to them as the "Fighting" Irish anymore?

FAX


I agree, Mr. FAX, and I bet most of those players aren't even Irish. They need to come up with a new name. How about the "Overrated?"

[Mecca]

So is Reggie Bush just the biggest bust since Ryan leaf then?

Well if you watch the Saints they try to run the guy up the gut like he's Deuce #2 and anyone who watches Bush can tell you that's probably not the best plan of attack...he also doesn't see a ton of carries, has alot of catches though.

[Crush]

So is Reggie Bush just the biggest bust since Ryan leaf then?



I think Bush has to have a meltdown at Arrowhead, before he can reach Ryan Leaf levels of bust.

[Mecca]

I agree, Mr. FAX, and I bet most of those players aren't even Irish. They need to come up with a new name. How about the "Overrated?"

You are going to offend the ND fans on the board.......but don't worry flamer Jimmy Clausen is coming to save them next year......right.

[HolmeZz]

Clausen's a flamer because he turned down the paychecks USC was offering him and opted for ND.

[Mecca]

Clausen's a flamer because he turned down the paychecks USC was offering him and opted for ND.

Have you seen him........

[chagrin]

ND is not a "great" team, and this is a pretty sorry game.

[HolmeZz]

Have you seen him........

Yup. But I'm sure you'd be hailing him as the greatest quarterback prospect ever had he decided to go to USC.

[Crush]

That was a good catch.

[Mecca]

Would you feel comfortable with this leading your football team....

http://www.trojanwire.com/football/images/JIMMYCLAUSEN.JPG

And he's not coming to USC because he knows Mark Sanchez would play before him.

[Mecca]

Plus the Clausen clan doesn't do much for me, Rick and Casey were both top recruits also and well...we know how that turned out.

[Skip Towne]

Well if you watch the Saints they try to run the guy up the gut like he's Deuce #2 and anyone who watches Bush can tell you that's probably not the best plan of attack...he also doesn't see a ton of carries, has alot of catches though.
That's what I thought, a bust. He has 103 carries for 300 yards. Them's Mike Cloud numbers. He won't last long.

[Mecca]

That's what I thought, a bust. He has 103 carries for 300 yards. Them's Mike Cloud numbers. He won't last long.

Under this logic Larry Johnson was a bust too...

[Mecca]

I think he's short....

[HolmeZz]

Barely. THAT was a bad playcall.

[Frazod]

Wow. I thought the spot would get them, too.

[HolmeZz]

No way that spot gets overturned.

[Crush]

That was close.

[FAX]

That's what I thought, a bust. He has 103 carries for 300 yards. Them's Mike Cloud numbers. He won't last long.

That would be crazy if Bush became a Bust, Mr. Skip Towne.

FAX

[Skip Towne]

Under this logic Larry Johnson was a bust too...
LJ averaged 2.9 ypc?

[Mecca]

LJ averaged 2.9 ypc?

He didn't even touch the field for 2 years.......

[Skip Towne]

ND's QB has a much hotter sister than USC's QB.

[Crush]

This Notre Dame offense is just not clicking.

[Crush]

Can USC hold again?

[Crush]

This is piss poor play calling.

[Mecca]

What kinda call is that.........

Maybe USC's defense is why ND looks bad.

[Skip Towne]

He didn't even touch the field for 2 years.......
Because he sucked at 2.9 ypc like Bush, right?

[Frazod]

Impressive.

[HolmeZz]

The Quinn keeper is Brady's call. He'll switch to it if he thinks he can make it.

I disagree with the play action fake on 2nd down. They knew we weren't running from there.

[Mecca]

Because he sucked at 2.9 ypc like Bush, right?

I find this humerous that people are so quick to jump on Bush......my god he's not awesome right away he must suck.

[Skip Towne]

I find this humerous that people are so quick to jump on Bush......my god he's not awesome right away he must suck.
Not awesome? He's terrible.

[Frazod]

That was funny. "Leave me alone, goddammit." CLICK :D

[FAX]

Those fighting irish are really fearsome.

I'll hang up on your ass!

FAX

[Mecca]

Ah damn it Steve.

[Frazod]

Right through his hands.

[Crush]

There's that damn commercial again. **** you John Mellencamp.

[Mecca]

Jarrett is the man.

[Crush]

Why is Notre Dame still playing?

[Crush]

Nailed it. 31-17, USC.

[Mecca]

Bob Davie is high....5 first round choices on ND...uh who? They have 1 maybe 2.

[Mecca]

Jarrett brings the ownage with another TD.

[JBucc]

Draft him Carl!

[Mecca]

Draft him Carl!

That would be an awfully nice draft day....

[FAX]

That would be an awfully nice draft day....

What's his character rating, Mr. Mecca?

FAX

[Mecca]

What's his character rating, Mr. Mecca?

FAX

He's not a bad guy if that's what your asking...

And that was a horrible penalty call.

[Mecca]

You know it's really really annoying to listen to announcers call a QB by his first name all game.

[JBucc]

That would be an awfully nice draft day....I thought we might have a chance at him but with us moving back draftwise and his stock rising before our eyes it seems unlikely now.

[Mecca]

I thought we might have a chance at him but with us moving back draftwise and his stock rising before our eyes it seems unlikely now.

Depends.......he won't run a blazing 40...

[Crush]

Too little, too late.

[Mecca]

The refs played hard for ND on that last drive there LOL.

[Mecca]

Brian Cushing owns them.

[Chiefs Pantalones]

Looks like it'll be Ohio State vs. USC for the title. I hope it's a good game.

[Crush]

That's the funniest thing that I've ever seen in my life.

[Mecca]

And there it is.......probably could have been worse than that score seeing how it felt.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Well, it is what it is......

USC came to play and ND didn't. Too many missed opportunities early, and when Ndukwe left the game, it was even easier for USC to move the ball.

I guess the silver lining is that it doesn't really change anything for ND regarding the BCS, they'll still play in either the Rose or the Sugar, but having a month to get ready and get Quinn healthy should help. They have a month to stew about this game, and it should have them pretty fired up for January.

Barring a complete meltdown, USC will get their shot. While I hope it's a good game, I can't see ANYONE derailing OSU.

Lloyd Carr is really loving the BCS right about now, isn't he?

[Frazod]

It's just pure horseshit if USC gets a spot in the National Championship over Michigan.

Michigan's sole loss was by 3 points to the Number 1 team.

USC's sole loss was by 10 to unranked Oregon State.

Shit, what else do you need to say?

I'm not a Michigan fan by any stretch of the imagination, but this is just wrong. :shake:

[OnTheWarpath15]

It's just pure horseshit if USC gets a spot in the National Championship over Michigan.

Michigan's sole loss was by 3 points to the Number 1 team.

USC's sole loss was by 10 to unranked Oregon State.

Shit, what else do you need to say?

I'm not a Michigan fan by any stretch of the imagination, but this is just wrong. :shake:

I agree completely......

But a rematch isn't going to happen.....

[siberian khatru]

It's just pure horseshit if USC gets a spot in the National Championship over Michigan.

Michigan's sole loss was by 3 points to the Number 1 team.

USC's sole loss was by 10 to unranked Oregon State.

Shit, what else do you need to say?

I'm not a Michigan fan by any stretch of the imagination, but this is just wrong. :shake:

Look at it this way: If there's a rematch, it means Ohio State has to beat Michigan twice to win the title, while Michigan only has to beat OSU once. Is that fair?

Fact is, nothing's gonna be fair w/out a true playoff.

[Bugeater]

It's just pure horseshit if USC gets a spot in the National Championship over Michigan.

Michigan's sole loss was by 3 points to the Number 1 team.

USC's sole loss was by 10 to unranked Oregon State.

Shit, what else do you need to say?

I'm not a Michigan fan by any stretch of the imagination, but this is just wrong. :shake:
The thought of a rematch just doesn't excite me. Right or wrong, I'd rather see USC play tOSU.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Look at it this way: If there's a rematch, it means Ohio State has to beat Michigan twice to win the title, while Michigan only has to beat OSU once. Is that fair?

Fact is, nothing's gonna be fair w/out a true playoff.

Like it'd be fair if OSU's only loss came in their final game, and the National Champion's only loss came to an unranked team?

You're right, without a playoff, it's retarded. OSU has everything to lose. Whoever plays them has nothing to lose....

[Chiefs Pantalones]

I would rather see a rematch, but it's going to be USC and OSU.

I would rather have a playoff format, as well, but that won't happen...I hate college football in that sense...

[Frazod]

Fact is, nothing's gonna be fair w/out a true playoff.

The one thing we can all agree on.

[siberian khatru]

Like it'd be fair if OSU's only loss came in their final game, and the National Champion's only loss came to an unranked team?

You're right, without a playoff, it's retarded. OSU has everything to lose. Whoever plays them has nothing to lose....

Yes, you can slice it a thousand different ways, it all adds up to ... well, it doesn't add up, is what I'm saying. That's why, IMO, we need a playoff. But you keep hearing that this debate is what the I-A gurus want -- they don't want it settled. I think that's moronic to the point of being untrue, but it won't die.

[Mecca]

It's just pure horseshit if USC gets a spot in the National Championship over Michigan.

Michigan's sole loss was by 3 points to the Number 1 team.

USC's sole loss was by 10 to unranked Oregon State.

Shit, what else do you need to say?

I'm not a Michigan fan by any stretch of the imagination, but this is just wrong. :shake:

2 not 10......USC was going for the 2 to tie with about 10 seconds left in that game......

Michigan had their shot they lost, I don't want to see a rematch when it involves 2 teams in the same conference that just played. That's really not fair to OSU when they just played them.

OSU will not blowout USC.....this was suppose to be USC's down year and they could possibly win the title.

[Frazod]

2 not 10......USC was going for the 2 to tie with about 10 seconds left in that game......

Michigan had their shot they lost, I don't want to see a rematch when it involves 2 teams in the same conference that just played. That's really not fair to OSU when they just played them.

OSU will not blowout USC.....this was suppose to be USC's down year and they could possibly win the title.

My mistake. But still, do you really think losing to Oregon State is the same as losing to Ohio State?

[TinyEvel]

Okay, so I jumped to the last page without checking, so pardon me if it's already come up, but...

IS THERE ANY WAY WE CAN DRAFT DWAYNE JARRETT??

[Mecca]

My mistake. But still, do you really think losing to Oregon State is the same as losing to Ohio State?

Just like I said they had thier shot to knock off OSU....It's not really fair to OSU to have them play again what if Michigan wins? Do you play another game then cause it's 1-1?

I just don't think Michigan is good enough to beat OSU so I don't wanna see it again, especially when they are from the same conference you should have to win your conference to play for the NC.

[Mecca]

Okay, so I jumped to the last page without checking, so pardon me if it's already come up, but...

IS THERE ANY WAY WE CAN DRAFT DWAYNE JARRETT??

Hey atleast I'm not the only one who'd like to see that.

[Bearcat]

Look at it this way: If there's a rematch, it means Ohio State has to beat Michigan twice to win the title, while Michigan only has to beat OSU once. Is that fair?

Fact is, nothing's gonna be fair w/out a true playoff.


Eh, had they played in the first game of the season everyone would want a rematch... if the top two teams happen to play in the same conference, so be it. Too bad they don't have a conference championship... it could be the best out of 3 :D

What's sad is that USC jumped 5 spots when they beat a ranked Oregon... had Oklahoma not been screwed by the refs (there's an article on espn.com today about the screwup), Oregon has no quality wins, isn't ranked, and it's just another weak Pac-10 victory for USC. The fact that matters sums up the BCS.

[Bugeater]

Okay, so I jumped to the last page without checking, so pardon me if it's already come up, but...

IS THERE ANY WAY WE CAN DRAFT DWAYNE JARRETT??
No. Please move on now.

[siberian khatru]

People, stop arguing about this -- that's exactly what the Lords of College Football WANT us to do!

[Mecca]

Ok what if USC wins the national title....will all the big 10 fans here explode?

[TinyEvel]

No. Please move on now.

Why not? I mean, I hate USC, so this is the only game I've seen them play, and this guy stuck out to me as a playmaker. Is he a dick or something?

[Bugeater]

Why not? I mean, I hate USC, so this is the only game I've seen them play, and this guy stuck out to me as a playmaker. Is he a dick or something?
You know how this shit goes, he'll be a high pick for the Raiders, Lions or Cardinals and his career will be ruined.

[TinyEvel]

You know how this shit goes, he'll be a high pick for the Raiders, Lions or Cardinals and his career will be ruined.

Yeah. Anyway, who needs him? We've got Rod Gardner!!!! [sarcasm/]

[Bearcat]

Also, you can't say OSU "had to win twice" to win a NC. Had they lost by 3 they would be #2 right now. It's just like had they played in October... both teams can make adjustments or whatever, but it's not like they had something to hide. Both teams knew what was at stake before, and both would in January. There's nothing unfair about it.

[Bugeater]

Yeah. Anyway, who needs him? We've got Rod Gardner!!!! [sarcasm/]
Sorry, I'm a little bitter when it comes to high draft picks. It seems like the same shitty teams get the best players every year and they never get any better. Perhaps someone with a better attitude can help with your question.

[Frazod]

Just like I said they had thier shot to knock off OSU....It's not really fair to OSU to have them play again what if Michigan wins? Do you play another game then cause it's 1-1?

I just don't think Michigan is good enough to beat OSU so I don't wanna see it again, especially when they are from the same conference you should have to win your conference to play for the NC.

Their shot came AT Columbus, not on a neutral field. Home field advantage is an undeniable major factor in football games. If that game is played in Ann Arbor, Michigan probably wins. On a neutral field - who knows?

And again, you have no rebuttal for quality of competition in these teams' sole losses.

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Their shot came AT Columbus, not on a neutral field. Home field advantage is an undeniable major factor in football games. If that game is played in Ann Arbor, Michigan probably wins. On a neutral field - who knows?

And again, you have no rebuttal for quality of competition in these teams' sole losses.

I just don't want to see this rematch it might be a feasable idea of the 2 teams weren't from the same conference, that to me is the biggest sticking point.

When they played they knew what was at stake. They both knew that the loser likely wouldn't play for the NC. OSU won to me that knocks Michigan out.