Lets kick the crap outta Oakland

[sportsman1]

Personally an Ass beating of the Raiders would make me feel a lot better considering that inn the back of my mind I allready knew we weren't going to the playoffs. Now that the P word is out of the way we can just enjoy the last two games and an Oakland beating would definitly be worth it. Im talking 49-3, not 21-10. Then lets take out Jacksonville and ruin their parade. Would that make the season at least somewhat salvaged for everyone else?

[Brock]

Sure, let's sacrifice a few draft positions for a meaningless win.

[|Zach|]

Sure, let's sacrifice a few draft positions for a meaningless win.
Ha, I never thought you would be one of those guys.

[sportsman1]

Draft pick wont be used any better if we had a high pick, anyways I'd like to think were not total losers that we'd get to that point.

[boogblaster]

Drafting is about the same after the 1st round..most people playing in the NFL are after the 1st round anyway..might as well end with two wins...

[Brock]

Ha, I never thought you would be one of those guys.

Oops. /sarcasm

[Hammock Parties]

I want a shutout.

[Molitoth]

im rooting for a higher draft pick.

[|Zach|]

Oops. /sarcasm
Ah, fantastic news.

[Ugly Duck]

Pop Quiz:

Which defense is ranked higher in the NFL?

Chicago Bears

Oakland Raiders

(Hint... you are wrong) Times up!

[mlyonsd]

Pop Quiz:

Which defense is ranked higher in the NFL?

Chicago Bears

Oakland Raiders

(Hint... you are wrong) Times up!

Guess that blows the "you need a solid defense" to make it to the SB theory.

[siberian khatru]

I want a shutout.

I want BLOOD!

http://www.kmf.org.pl/fx/link/diehard/real/19.jpg

[tk13]

Dick Vermeil will be there, so LJ should run for about 300 yards.

[Hammock Parties]

Dick Vermeil will be there, so LJ should run for about 300 yards.

Don't encourage 1963.

[Ugly Duck]

Guess that blows the "you need a solid defense" to make it to the SB theory.

No.... I think it still stands. But you also need an offense that ranks near 2 on a scale of one to ten. Oakland's offense doesn't deserve a ranking of 1 on that scale.

[Hammock Parties]

Hey Duck, is Moss out this week?

[Ugly Duck]

Hey Duck, is Moss out this week?

I actually don't know..... its like he's not even there - don't pay no attention to him.

[mlyonsd]

No.... I think it still stands. But you also need an offense that ranks near 2 on a scale of one to ten. Oakland's offense doesn't deserve a ranking of 1 on that scale.

Remember when talking smack was fun?

Unfortunately we've been reduced to fighting over the last cookie at a tea party.

[Halfcan]

The way this team has played-I think it is very doubtful we leave with a win. I mean we lost to the Browns.

Sorry but this team has no heart.

[Hammock Parties]

The way this team has played-I think it is very doubtful we leave with a win. I mean we lost to the Browns.

Sorry but this team has no heart.

We have plenty of heart. It showed against the Chargers. We just aren't very talented.

[Halfcan]

This team quits the first sign of trouble. Green goes down-we quit. Ty falls down in Pitts-we gave up and were stomped. Miami came out pumped up and we folded like a beach umbrella. Against the Browns- we gave up at halftime.

No heart.

[Hammock Parties]

Against the Browns- we gave up at halftime.

Is that why we were leading 28-14 with 12 minutes to go?

The Chiefs have plenty of heart.

[Logical]

Personally an Ass beating of the Raiders would make me feel a lot better considering that inn the back of my mind I allready knew we weren't going to the playoffs. Now that the P word is out of the way we can just enjoy the last two games and an Oakland beating would definitly be worth it. Im talking 49-3, not 21-10. Then lets take out Jacksonville and ruin their parade. Would that make the season at least somewhat salvaged for everyone else?

No and frankly at this point it is hard to care. I just hate losing to Oakland.

[Halfcan]

Okay, if you think we played with heart in the Browns game when we could not even tackle a backup QB on a huge run- I guess we must be talking about something different.

[FAX]

I think we had heart in the Cleveland game.

Just no arms or hands.

FAX

[Hammock Parties]

Okay, if you think we played with heart in the Browns game when we could not even tackle a backup QB on a huge run- I guess we must be talking about something different.

I guess if you want to say certain players didn't play with heart you would be right. But this team hasn't quit - AS A TEAM - in any game this year. Even in Pittsburgh they were fighting until the end.

[HermIsKing]

go chiefs is right. Herm will not let this team quit.

They fight to the end evry game. all 24 starters, even Kendrell Bell.

[Halfcan]

Players with heart...

LJ
Gonzo
DJ
Pollard
Green
Huard
Allen
Hali

the rest.....not so much. Herm has heart but no balls. Gun has heart but no brains.

[Hammock Parties]

Players with heart...

LJ
Gonzo
DJ
Pollard
Green
Huard
Allen
Hali

the rest.....not so much. Herm has heart but no balls. Gun has heart but no brains.

How can you say Shields has no heart?

We've got plenty of heart. We're just short on talent.

The only "heartless" players I've seen this year are Sims and Wesley.

[Frazod]

I'd just as soon we lost out. That just might get Gunther canned, along with some of the other dead weight around here.

Right now we're just playing for draft picks, and God knows we have needs. The present is dead - to hell with it. I'd rather tank the last two games and move up a couple of spots.

[Hammock Parties]

I don't want to lose to the Raiders.

[Frazod]

I don't want to lose to the Raiders.

I didn't want to lose to the Browns, either. BFD. The season is over.

[Halfcan]

I don't want to lose to the Raiders.

The good news is- they are still total dumbasses and will do just as much to lose the game on their own as we will to beat them.

[FAX]

I have a feeling that they will beat us into the ground. Something inside is telling me that our beloved Chiefs are imploding.

Maybe my liver.

FAX

[HermIsKing]

Herm's record v. the Raiders very good.

Much better than other coaches.

[Simply Red]

This thread is: "TUBULAR!"

[Hendrix68]

The Chefs ALWAYS win games when winning is the last thing you want to do.

So yah, I am expecting to win both games and be saddled with a worse player in the draft than if we played it smart and lost both.

[|Zach|]

The Chefs ALWAYS win games when winning is the last thing you want to do.

So yah, I am expecting to win both games and be saddled with a worse player in the draft than if we played it smart and lost both.
Like Derrick Johnson? The last time people wanted us to lose games for a better draft pick we got that slug. ROFL

[Ugly Duck]

The good news is- they are still total dumbasses and will do just as much to lose the game on their own as we will to beat them.

Dats da troof. Even if we outplay you, you will win. Witness:

Raiders took a lead into the 4th quarter against Denver. Got 3 INTs & made 'em punt 7 times. Then lost by 4.

Next week, pathetic Raider offense outgained the Chiefs at Arrowhead. Took a lead into the 4th quarter & lost by 4.

Then went to DoltLand, made 'em punt 5 times, stopped 'em on 4th down, got an INT. Took a lead into the 4th quarter & lost by 7.

[007]

I want BLOOD!

http://www.kmf.org.pl/fx/link/diehard/real/19.jpg


Hell, maybe they need to watch that NFL Network special on the Chiefs. It sure lifted my spirits.

[Ugly Duck]

Hey Duck, is Moss out this week?OK... here's the deal. Moss is "questionable" (he won't wanna suit up). Porter is still pretending to have sore hips, but Art prolly wouldn't have played him anyway. Alvis Whited dislocated a wrist and is out for the season. So you will be facing Ronald Curry & Johnny Morant at WR.

If you lose, you will be the laughing stock of the league. Well.... right behind us, that is.....

[StcChief]

Time for Law/Surtain to get the picks they dropped earlier.

Hali/DJ/Allen to up their sack count.

TG to have 100 yd receiving Day 1 TD

LJ 150 two TDs.

EK 100 receiving 1TD.


Blow out
Chiefs 37
Faiders 9

[CupidStunt]

I don't want to lose to the Raiders... but the difference in a few draft spots could be very, very big down the line.

Imagine if we picked at #18 instead of #15 when we stole DJ. We'd be f*cked right now.

[Brock]

I don't want to lose to the Raiders... but the difference in a few draft spots could be very, very big down the line.

Imagine if we picked at #18 instead of #15 when we stole DJ. We'd be f*cked right now.

Yeah, either that or we would have just picked another player, like Luis Castillo or Marcus Spears.

[HemiEd]

This team quits the first sign of trouble. Green goes down-we quit. Ty falls down in Pitts-we gave up and were stomped. Miami came out pumped up and we folded like a beach umbrella. Against the Browns- we gave up at halftime.

No heart.

Very hard to argue with this.

[Warrior5]

I want Tony Gonzales to catch 2 TDs and pass horseface Sharpe.

[el borracho]

Sure, let's sacrifice a few draft positions for a meaningless win.
Beating the Raidurrs is not meaningless. That is part of being a Cheifs fan. I always hope we beat the Raidurrs.

[el borracho]

Oops. /sarcasm
... and that is why you read the entire thread before responding. Anyway, my earlier post still stands. I hope we kill the Raidurrs.

[Reerun_KC]

im rooting for a higher draft pick.


I am rooting for a lower one. We dont want Carl to embarrase himself and the Chiefs organization agian with another Tait like incident....

[klg61]

surley the players have got to be loaded with frustrations. they need to unleash and show the fans.

[Calcountry]

Sure, let's sacrifice a few draft positions for a meaningless win.Is drafting 10th instead of 15th going to help us secure a franchise OT or DT?

[Frazod]

Is drafting 10th instead of 15th going to help us secure a franchise OT or DT?

It damn sure will if the franchise OT or DT in question goes at 14 and we draft at 15. Seriously, we need all the help we can get. Screw winning this game - let Oakland f#ck up their draft position with a useless win.

[StcChief]

I want Tony Gonzales to catch 2 TDs and pass horseface Sharpe.

Why can't THannon THarpe do this game instead of DV.
that would be priceless to see/hear his weak a$$ comment.

[wolfpack0735]

i know the pipe dream of making the playoffs are gone,screw the draft win the last two. there`s probably a 90% chance queen carl will screw the pickup anyways(hopefully he`s fired and we wont have to worry about him),

[Ugly Duck]

OK... here's the deal. Moss is "questionable" (he won't wanna suit up). Porter is still pretending to have sore hips, but Art prolly wouldn't have played him anyway. Alvis Whited dislocated a wrist and is out for the season. So you will be facing Ronald Curry & Johnny Morant at WR.

Uh-oh.... Curry is hurt also - didn't practice. Looks like some youguns'll be in at WR....

[Hammock Parties]

Jesus. Who's HIS replacement? Aaron Brooks?

[Mecca]

Jesus. Who's HIS replacement? Aaron Brooks?

Could be Buchanon......a USC product, well if he's still on the team anyway.

Don't worry it's a road game the Chiefs are getting 2 days practice, wouldn't be at all surprised if the Chiefs lost.

[Hammock Parties]

Duck, any updates? Curry out?

[PinkFloyd]

Final Score:














2-0... It never get's over 7 points...

[ChiefsFan4Life]

I honestly don't care if we win or lose for the rest of the season - that's how deflated I am as a fan right now

[Skip Towne]

Herm's record v. the Raiders very good.

Much better than other coaches.
Not as good as Marty's I'd bet. Marty beat them into the ground.

[Skip Towne]

I'm not eligible to vote. I'm a Chargers fan.

[88TG88]

beating the raiders in oakland would make me feel better. i say 28-20 chief win

[sportsman1]

Well.. a win period would feel better but a total ass whoopin.... that would somewhat erase the last few weeks.

[milkman]

Well.. a win period would feel better but a total ass whoopin.... that would somewhat erase the last few weeks.

Except that whole "not going to the playoffs" thing.

[Ugly Duck]

Duck, any updates? Curry out?Morant will have his first ever start. We resigned Gabriel from the Pats (thanks for the free 5th rnd pick, Patsys!). And we just signed Will Buchannon from the practice squad. Don't matter much who the Raider WRs are.... our QB doesn't have enough time to find them.

[rad]

Doesn't matter. I'd like to see all our rookies play.

[Ugly Duck]

Ok.... here's the latest from SoapOpera land..... Porter has agreed to play. NFL Network is reporting that Rob Ryan will replace Art Shell as HC next year.... I wonder if he'll wear one of those league-sanctioned business suits on the sidelines?

http://www.raidernationvideocast.com/video/Raider%20Nation%20Celebration%20Photos_files/Raider%20Nation%20Celebration%20-%2024.jpg

[Calcountry]

It damn sure will if the franchise OT or DT in question goes at 14 and we draft at 15. Seriously, we need all the help we can get. Screw winning this game - let Oakland f#ck up their draft position with a useless win.Then Herm should start the reserves.

[Calcountry]

The game will be blacked out here probably, so have fun watching it.

[Ugly Duck]

The game will be blacked out here probably, so have fun watching it.?? Its a sellout. We only missed selling out 2 games this year. Its getting better as the team gets worse.... a minor bright spot... kinda... well, sorta....

[Hammock Parties]

Jerry Porter is starting now?

[Ugly Duck]

Jerry Porter is starting now?Who knows? All we know is rumors.... and the rumor is that Porter has said that he will give the team a "second chance" & is practicing now.

[Cntrygal]

I'd really like it if you guys did kick the shit outa oakland this weekend. :D

[Chiefs Pantalones]

I agree with Brock, lets win these last two and get a worse draft slot!!

[Chiefs Pantalones]

Is drafting 10th instead of 15th going to help us secure a franchise OT or DT?

The difference is huge, IMO. We could've had Merriman instead of Derrick Johnson a couple years ago then. I'd rather have Merriman, he's more of a gamebreaker than DJ. DJ doesn't have "it" so far. Hopefully he developes it. He's been solid, but definitely not worth the 15th pick in the draft so far...THAT could change though, hopefully.

[Demonpenz]

i just want to win because it will be the last time to cheer for the home team until next year. If you squint hard enough and drunk long enough they almost look good.

[|Zach|]

The difference is huge, IMO. We could've had Merriman instead of Derrick Johnson a couple years ago then. I'd rather have Merriman, he's more of a gamebreaker than DJ. DJ doesn't have "it" so far. Hopefully he developes it. He's been solid, but definitely not worth the 15th pick in the draft so far...THAT could change though, hopefully.
Now that I think of it there is a different between DJ and Merriman.



http://www.bbc.co.uk/insideout/northwest/series5/i/steroids_200.jpg

[Chiefs Pantalones]

Now that I think of it there is a different between DJ and Merriman.



http://www.bbc.co.uk/insideout/northwest/series5/i/steroids_200.jpg

ROFL

Either way though man, so far it seems Merriman is more of a playmaker. Am I the only one that thinks this?

[|Zach|]

ROFL

Either way though man
If thats good enough for you than to each their own.

So if some are cheering for losses can they still turn around and complain our players don't have heart?

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Is drafting 10th instead of 15th going to help us secure a franchise OT or DT?

Guys like Marcus Stroud went in the second round. Roaf lasted until the 8th pick. Kris Jenkins was a second rounder, IIRC. With that being said, would you want to go to a whorehouse after seven people have already chosen their whores for the evening, or two?

[Chiefs Pantalones]

If thats good enough for you than to each their own.

So if some are cheering for losses can they still turn around and complain our players don't have heart?

I just wanna win.

I don't care who plays for us.

[Chiefs Pantalones]

If thats good enough for you than to each their own.

So if some are cheering for losses can they still turn around and complain our players don't have heart?

It's not about heart, it's about talent. We are not a good football team. Why mess up a draft slot by winning two meaningless games?

[|Zach|]

It's not about heart, it's about talent. We are not a good football team. Why mess up a draft slot by winning two meaningless games?
Because they have to look themselves in the mirror the next day? :hmmm:

Did you ever play football?

[Chiefs Pantalones]

Because they have to look themselves in the mirror the next day? :hmmm:

Did you ever play football?

Yes. But this is different. This is the pros. They look at the millions of dollars they have in their bank account the next day. It's not like it used to be, only a few players would object to tanking the last few games. Hell, James Hasty said the other day on ESPN that some players would have their stuff packed a few weeks earlier, even though they were still IN the hunt for a playoff spot when he played.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Because they have to look themselves in the mirror the next day? :hmmm:

Did you ever play football?

Google this:

"Pyrrhic Victory"

[Chiefs Pantalones]

And I know they're not going to TRY to lose, but I won't be upset if they do, because it means we'll have a better draft slot.

[Hammock Parties]

Because they have to look themselves in the mirror the next day? :hmmm:

Did you ever play football?

It seems like every year we have this argument and Zach always posts the same thing.

And he's always right.

[|Zach|]

It seems like every year we have this argument and Zach always posts the same thing.

And he's always right.
I am not happy with these kinds of results...nobody is.

But you have to have a little pride. You can't be a complete pussy when things get rough.

[Chiefs Pantalones]

It seems like every year we have this argument and Zach always posts the same thing.

And he's always right.

What's sad is that we have the same argument every damn year, because we are out of the playoff race at this time...every damn year, and winning two meaningless games at the end of the year won't do shit for us.

[|Zach|]

and winning two meaningless games at the end of the year won't do shit for us.
I disagree.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

I disagree.

Those two wins gave us a great jump start into this year...that's for sure.

[Chiefs Pantalones]

I disagree.

What has it done for us the last gazillion times we've won our last 4 or 5 remaining games? Nothing the next year.

[Chiefs Pantalones]

I apologize, but you must understand my pissed off-ness. The Chiefs are losers, and I don't like that because they are my team.

[|Zach|]

I apologize, but you must understand my pissed off-ness. The Chiefs are losers, and I don't like that because they are my team.
And you want them to lose more.

To think, it was under our noses the whole time.

[Mojo Rising]

I hope the Chiefs win because it will be my only win attending a game this season. (0-2 so far)

If you are hoping they lose so it will better their chances for next year because we will get a better draft pick you are missing the boat.

Losing the next 2 will help us more because it will create more of a need for change. 9-7 and just missing the playoffs will lead to a spin that under a new regime (HE) we were still that close. Just wait until next year when his system is more entrenched.

The next several years won't be good. Look at the Bengals when Mike Brown took over. They were horrible until they got a new stadium. Also until Brown learned how to run a club.

Hunt might not be so lucky. I don't see the new Arrowhead generating the revenue the new stadiums do. After the remodel KC is stuck with the new Arrowhead for 15+ years.

[Mecca]

ROFL

Either way though man, so far it seems Merriman is more of a playmaker. Am I the only one that thinks this?

No.......the difference in the 2 is like saying Derrick Thomas or Donnie Edwards. The LB that is a dominant pass rusher and gets sacks is more valuable than the Johnson/Edwards type of LB.

Hell at this point DeMarcus Ware is a more valuable player to a defense than a DJ is.

[Mecca]

Guys like Marcus Stroud went in the second round. Roaf lasted until the 8th pick. Kris Jenkins was a second rounder, IIRC. With that being said, would you want to go to a whorehouse after seven people have already chosen their whores for the evening, or two?

Uh.....Marcus Stroud was a top 15 pick........I believe he went 11th.

[Mecca]

What has it done for us the last gazillion times we've won our last 4 or 5 remaining games? Nothing the next year.

Gives everyone hope they'll be beter next year so everyone keeps buying their tickets.......the true Carl Peterson plan.

[Over-Head]

This thread is silly.
Kicking the shit out of a wounded animal isn’t hardly a win is it?
I mean really.
As fuggen dismal as our team looks, and plays, how can you savor the victory.
This is just a case of "Blood in the water, the sharks are on the way".

[StcChief]

This thread is silly.
Kicking the shit out of a wounded animal isn’t hardly a win is it?
I mean really.
As fuggen dismal as our team looks, and plays, how can you savor the victory.
This is just a case of "Blood in the water, the sharks are on the way".

It's Faider blood so it's better.

[bkkcoh]

It's Faider blood so it's better.


Amen :toast:

This thread is silly.
Kicking the shit out of a wounded animal isn’t hardly a win is it?
I mean really.
As fuggen dismal as our team looks, and plays, how can you savor the victory.
This is just a case of "Blood in the water, the sharks are on the way".


I can see how you would feel that way......

[boogblaster]

Feed when the game is plentiful ....

[Ugly Duck]

As fuggen dismal as our team looks, and plays, how can you savor the victory?

This is just a case of "Blood in the water, the sharks are on the way".

Hey now.... the Chiefs offense hasn't been too swift the last coupla of games either. They've only scored but one TD in the last two full games (and that at the end of the 4th quarter). Plus.... the Raiders took a lead into the 4th quarter last time we played them - at Arrowhead. Here's the plan.... our defense makes a coupla scores & we might just win!

[CupidStunt]

Both teams want to beat their hated rival, and both would love the higher draft pick.

Heh. Sad really.

[DMAC]

50 people in the stands

+ No offense...on either side
___________________________

ONE HELL OF A GAME!!!

[Raiderhater]

I am not happy with these kinds of results...nobody is.

But you have to have a little pride. You can't be a complete pussy when things get rough.


Thank you! I get so sick and tired of the defeatist attitude, and the "play to lose so we can win via draft picks" bit. What a bunch of malarkey. Especialy since many of the people who advocate that are the same people who say that CP can't draft well. So what is the point in trying to up the drafting position? Morons.

My team may be a bunch of 'tards, but they need to at the very least be a bunch of fighting 'tards. If they aren't even going to try than there is no reason for me to be a fan, let alone devote my time watching a game.



KILL THE RAIDERS!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Ugly Duck]

50 people in the stands

+ No offense...on either side
___________________________

ONE HELL OF A GAME!!!

63,026 sellout crowd in the stands

+ No offense...on either side