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PastorMikH
12-23-2006, 01:51 PM
Not being able to see the game tonight - AGAIN BECAUSE MY CABLE COMPANY WON'T PICKUP the NFL Network - has me strongly considering a satalite system at the new house.


Of people who have/had satalite tv, what are your thoughts? Which carrier (Dish/DirectTV) is better? NFL Sunday Ticket is probably not an option for me at this point so that difference won't be a deciding factor.

I'd be interested in your opinions, and any experiences you wish to share.

Deberg_1990
12-23-2006, 01:54 PM
Ive had DirectTV for about 5 years now and i love it!

I originally got it for the Sunday Ticket. Probably not much of a difference in picture quality between the 2.

If your going the HD route, DishTV has far more HD channels than DirectV does and offers NFL Network HD.

Direct TV sucks for HD.

PastorMikH
12-23-2006, 01:56 PM
Thanks Deberg.

Though right now I don't have HD capability, that is a direction I would like to move towards in the future.

Chiefs Pantalones
12-23-2006, 02:11 PM
DTV is getting ready upgrade the HD channels from what they've told me anyway. DTV gave me some troubles (a few weeks ago explains it) but they have been settled. I guess no business is perfect. DTV has been satisfying, for the most part.

Chiefs Pantalones
12-23-2006, 02:12 PM
Where do you reside, Pmike? Because Channel 41 in KC is showing the game, they bought the rights to the telecast or something, so it'll be on both NFL Network and 41.

Nzoner
12-23-2006, 02:19 PM
I've had Direct since the first year of the NFL Ticket(I think about 10 years)and if I had to grade them I'd give them a A-

I love their protection plan for $49.95 a year as it has more than paid for itself multiple times with us having 8 receivers,multi-switches and the like.

The only gripe I have is when you call up and know what's wrong with your system you still have a minimum wage geek who has to walk you thru the troubleshooting tips just to put you on hold as they connect you with the service plan department.

Deberg_1990
12-23-2006, 02:22 PM
DTV is getting ready upgrade the HD channels from what they've told me anyway. .



Ive been hearing that for like 3 or 4 years now.

PastorMikH
12-23-2006, 02:23 PM
Where do you reside, Pmike? Because Channel 41 in KC is showing the game, they bought the rights to the telecast or something, so it'll be on both NFL Network and 41.


I'm in western OK so I don't think that is an option.

Mr. Laz
12-23-2006, 02:26 PM
i have Directv ....... really like the directivo i got.


pay big attention to the installation of the Dish ... any line of sight problems will come back tenfold when it rains etc.

PastorMikH
12-23-2006, 03:25 PM
Of those voting for one or the other, has anyone had both systems?

BWillie
12-23-2006, 03:28 PM
I can tell you this much, I hate Dish Network. I always have problems getting CBS, ABC, FOX to come in clear. Some weeks it will come in perfectly, other times it doesn't. The worst part is when I'm going up and down through the channels I have to wait 2-3 seconds for each channel to "load" before I can see it. I'd much prefer cable, but that's me.

Reerun_KC
12-23-2006, 03:30 PM
Have had Direct TV for 10 years now. Not one complaint. Lost the satellite signal once during Hurricane Katrina.

Now I live in OKC and storms dont even touch it, make sure your signal is in the 90's + and you should never have any trouble.

Direct TV is for sports

Dish Network is for old people.

OnTheWarpath15
12-23-2006, 03:31 PM
Of those voting for one or the other, has anyone had both systems?

I've had both.

I started with Dish, then went to DTV after a few years for the Ticket.

I prefer DTV. Regardless of the Ticket.

tk13
12-23-2006, 03:59 PM
I've had family members switch from DirecTV to Dish, and from Dish to DirecTV, so I've seen both, and everybody seems to be happy with their choices. I think sometimes people are fanboys about this stuff almost like video game systems. I actually like DirecTV, but I think the biggest advantage they have is probably the Sunday Ticket. Dish does have more HD programming though, and to be honest, you can probably get a good package (that includes NFL Network) cheaper, if you're looking at bottom line money spent.

morphius
12-23-2006, 03:59 PM
Ive been hearing that for like 3 or 4 years now.
Well they are upgrading to the lowest of the HD standards, which is an interesting choice.

MichaelH
12-23-2006, 04:22 PM
I've had Direct Tv since the end of October. I don't have HD or Tivo but I love what I do have. The installer was exactly on time and very courteous. He made sure I had nothing in line of the signal so my reception has been excellent despite several heavy rainstorms we get here in the Southeast. I switched from Time Warner cable and I don't regret it all.

Skip Towne
12-23-2006, 04:42 PM
Well they are upgrading to the lowest of the HD standards, which is an interesting choice.
I don't know what you mean by that. They are launching two new satellites which will be dedicated to HD programming with MPEG4 capability. How is that the lowest of HD standards?

OnTheWarpath15
12-23-2006, 04:44 PM
I don't know what you mean by that. They are launching two new satellites which will be dedicated to HD programming with MPEG4 capability. How is that the lowest of HD standards?

Just curious, Skip....but when is the launch expected?

I've been told January by DTV reps. Just wondering what you know....

Skip Towne
12-23-2006, 04:44 PM
Dish Network is for old people.
And Mexicans.

Skip Towne
12-23-2006, 04:47 PM
Just curious, Skip....but when is the launch expected?

I've been told January by DTV reps. Just wondering what you know....
I've heard early 2007. We've been putting in the 5 LNB dishes for 8 months now getting ready for it. I just put one in today.

OnTheWarpath15
12-23-2006, 04:50 PM
I've heard early 2007. We've been putting in the 5 LNB dishes for 8 months now getting ready for it. I just put one in today.

Yeah, I got my 5 LNB in October with the new DVR+ or whatever it's called.....

How many channels will this add to the HD package?

Phobia
12-23-2006, 04:53 PM
I've had both. I currently have DTV. I'm considering a switch back to Dish. The programming is similar, IMO. But the Dish DVR is much more intuitive. I'm not incredibly fond of the HR20 we have.

Mr. Laz
12-23-2006, 05:10 PM
Now I live in OKC and storms dont even touch it, make sure your signal is in the 90's + and you should never have any trouble.

mine is 90+ ......... until it rains :(

Chiefs_Mike_Topeka
12-23-2006, 05:59 PM
Ive had DirectTV for about 5 years now and i love it!

I originally got it for the Sunday Ticket. Probably not much of a difference in picture quality between the 2.

If your going the HD route, DishTV has far more HD channels than DirectV does and offers NFL Network HD.

Direct TV sucks for HD.


Channel 95 on DTV for NFL network HD games. They broadcast only games in HD right now though.


And I have had Dish and DTV. I give DTV superior thumbs up compared to Dish.

(Even though they are owned by the some conglomerate now)

Chiefs Pantalones
12-23-2006, 06:53 PM
I don't know what you mean by that. They are launching two new satellites which will be dedicated to HD programming with MPEG4 capability. How is that the lowest of HD standards?

Are they gonna start broadcasting in 1080p? Because that's what TV we have. I know they do it in 1080i now, but 1080p is better.

KChiefs1
12-23-2006, 08:13 PM
What new HD channels is DTV plan on adding in 2007?

PastorMikH
12-27-2006, 11:44 PM
Bump.


Several questions...

First, I am seeing lots of positives on this thread for DirectTV, but I see a lot of complaining about it elsewhere on the Planet. I'd be interested in those who have had fits sharing opinions (with either provider) here.



Second, has anyone tried the internet access with either satalite provider?

Sure-Oz
12-28-2006, 12:06 AM
Bump.


Several questions...

First, I am seeing lots of positives on this thread for DirectTV, but I see a lot of complaining about it elsewhere on the Planet. I'd be interested in those who have had fits sharing opinions (with either provider) here.



Second, has anyone tried the internet access with either satalite provider?
we have at&t dsl that came iwth our dish package. no problems and since we got it 3 months ago and has been perfect. def better than comcast. love dishnetwork HD kicks butt.

Skip Towne
12-28-2006, 12:10 AM
Bump.


Several questions...

First, I am seeing lots of positives on this thread for DirectTV, but I see a lot of complaining about it elsewhere on the Planet. I'd be interested in those who have had fits sharing opinions (with either provider) here.



Second, has anyone tried the internet access with either satalite provider?
Not good with either one. They are pricey and have that annoying lag for game players. Not very fast.

TinyEvel
12-28-2006, 12:21 AM
I got DIRECTV this year so I could get Sunday Ticket. Prior to the we had Digital Comcast cable (which is now owned by Time Warner in los Angeles)
I have to say we get less outages with the DIERCTV and the football package, of course, is great. Ther were some upfront costs with the equipment (we have HD in one room, and HD+DVR in one, and a regular setup in one) But I havse no complaints. The installer was nice. I kept him replenished iwth cold water/sodas and was on hand to answer any questions/ move any equipment out of his way, etc.

My ad agency has handled DIRECTV ad accout for more than five years, so I may be biased, but I think it's the best, from what I've experienced.

Mosbonian
12-28-2006, 02:57 AM
I've had Direct Tv since the end of October. I don't have HD or Tivo but I love what I do have. The installer was exactly on time and very courteous. He made sure I had nothing in line of the signal so my reception has been excellent despite several heavy rainstorms we get here in the Southeast. I switched from Time Warner cable and I don't regret it all.

Time Warner in NC/SC has always sucked when it comes to quality of product, service and price.

They are the reason i switched to DirecTV...and haven't gone back.

mmaddog
*******

Bob Dole
12-28-2006, 06:14 AM
Dish seems to have a lot more hunting and fishing programming in their basic package.

'Hamas' Jenkins
12-28-2006, 06:19 AM
And Mexicans.
ROFL ROFL

Ahh..."Para Todos".

Swanman
12-28-2006, 08:26 AM
I don't know what you mean by that. They are launching two new satellites which will be dedicated to HD programming with MPEG4 capability. How is that the lowest of HD standards?

It's what many people refer to as "HD-Lite" when talking about the Directv HD channels. With the first couple batches of HD channels, there was some compression so the channels really are not as HD as they could be (although still a very good picture). For example, if you compare a Directv HD channel to a broadcast HD channel through an antenna, the broadcast channel will look better due to the fact that it's not compressed at all. With more satellites going up, that may ease the compression problem with the HD channels.

Hopefully once Directv is done adding all the HD locals, it can start adding some other HD channels, like the RSNs.

SNAFU
12-28-2006, 08:47 AM
Does anyone know if Dish Net will ever offer a NFL Sunday ticket type package or does DTV have exclusive rights?

Bob Dole
12-28-2006, 08:55 AM
Does anyone know if Dish Net will ever offer a NFL Sunday ticket type package or does DTV have exclusive rights?

DTV has exclusive rights through 2010.

Undertaker #59
12-28-2006, 09:49 AM
DTV will always win these kinds of polls simply because they are a much larger company and have many more subscribers. I think the services are very close.

What you need to consider is what is most important to you. If the Ticket is not a consideration, but HD is, then DISH is probably the better choice right now because of HD programming AND superior equipment.

As time goes on however, D* may overtake E* in these areas.

morphius
12-28-2006, 10:07 AM
I don't know what you mean by that. They are launching two new satellites which will be dedicated to HD programming with MPEG4 capability. How is that the lowest of HD standards?
All of their commercials are touting 1080i, which is about the lowest resolution possible to be considered HD.

Swanman
12-28-2006, 10:15 AM
All of their commercials are touting 1080i, which is about the lowest resolution possible to be considered HD.

The only resolution above 1080i is 1080p and I don't think programming is being broadcast in 1080p yet. Also, according to some video reviews I've read, the difference from 1080i and 1080p isn't even that noticeable.

morphius
12-28-2006, 10:19 AM
The only resolution above 1080i is 1080p and I don't think programming is being broadcast in 1080p yet. Also, according to some video reviews I've read, the difference from 1080i and 1080p isn't even that noticeable.
720p is above 1080i and it all depends on what you are watching, the signal, and on the TV...

And if you listen to some here there is no diff between HD and Digital...

Stewie
12-28-2006, 11:06 AM
720p is above 1080i and it all depends on what you are watching, the signal, and on the TV...

And if you listen to some here there is no diff between HD and Digital...

"p" is progressive, "i" is interlaced. 720p is HD. 1080i is more detailed, but it only refreshes every other line per screen refresh as opposed to 720p which refreshes every line. Hence, progressive/interlaced.

1080p is the Cadillac of signals but no one broadcasts that yet. From what I've seen and read 1080i or 1080p is only really noticeable when the screen size gets above 50". I have a 42" plasma that is 720p and the pic is unbelievably clear on HD broadcasts.

Chiefs Pantalones
12-28-2006, 11:09 AM
1080p is highest you can get, but there is nothing being broadcasted in 1080p yet I found out. I hope so soon, because I have a 1080p TV.

Swanman
12-28-2006, 11:28 AM
"p" is progressive, "i" is interlaced. 720p is HD. 1080i is more detailed, but it only refreshes every other line per screen refresh as opposed to 720p which refreshes every line. Hence, progressive/interlaced.

1080p is the Cadillac of signals but no one broadcasts that yet. From what I've seen and read 1080i or 1080p is only really noticeable when the screen size gets above 50". I have a 42" plasma that is 720p and the pic is unbelievably clear on HD broadcasts.

Here is a good article that talks briefly about the difference between 1080i and 1080p. The author basically states that even with a huge screen (this is from a projector review website), the difference is not that noticeable quite yet.

http://www.projectorcentral.com/blu-ray_2.htm

Manila-Chief
12-28-2006, 12:33 PM
Mike, I have reported this earlier but will repeat it here .... we have had DTV since late July & it is great ... really like their DVR ... we have 2 DVRs ... I got one free & paid $100 for the other one ... it is worth the price for DVR in the master bedroom ... I love the replay live TV feature & the ability to record 100 hours of programing ... recorded several movies for when the grandkids stay over & all Chiefs games .... I choose to not go the HDTV route, not worth the money for us (and Skip influenced me)... regular T.V. is clearer here than what we had in Manila ... we pay less than our daughter pays for her Time Warner/Comcast (Comcast just took over here) here in Olive Branch & she does not have DVR ... but, TW does have "on demand" programing that we don't have ... we had trouble with the first installer ... arrived late (for some reason Dish 1 Network sent an installer up here from LA and he did a bad job), cut the cable to my security system & destroyed it (cost $400 plus to replace it); left us with out TV from Wed. until Sat. afternoon; left holes under our eves; & he didn't show back up on Sat. like he promised ... they sent another guy from here in Memphis who did an excellent job ... also, had a DVR that wasn't working correctly ... DTV quickly replaced it... It took a long time but DTV got Dish 1 Network to refund me the money for repairing the security system (we actually have a much better set up so the wait was worth it ... since Dish 1 Network paif for it).

I choose DTV coz of the Sunday ticket ... we always get Tenn. here. With the promise of the Chiefs sucking next year I'm not sure I'll renew it. :-( but, come August I'll probably cave in and punish myself again. :-) But, it is great to record the games even if I'm out of town speaking.

I waited until July for DTV's special deal for the Sunday ticket ... I paid $69.99 for 4 payments for the ticket and their most expensive program plan (got all the movies and some sports progams for 4 months) ... that was cheaper than buying the ticket. Now, be advised my monthly payment was about $92 coz they charged $10 for the 2 extra TV set up($4.99 each), $5.99 for the DVR (only 1 $5.99 charge for both DVR's), taxes and seems like there may have been another fee??? ....

I've not had Dish ... it seemed to be a little cheaper????

Chiefs Pantalones
12-28-2006, 12:45 PM
Wow, I remember when Ticket first started. It was only like $119 for the whole season.

htismaqe
12-28-2006, 12:47 PM
I had DirecTV for 10 year. I had cable for 2. I now have Dish Network.

There's absolutely NO comparison. Dish Network is the best.

Manila-Chief
12-28-2006, 12:54 PM
I had DirecTV for 10 year. I had cable for 2. I now have Dish Network.

There's absolutely NO comparison. Dish Network is the best.


What is better about Dish?

StcChief
12-28-2006, 12:55 PM
I had DirecTV for 10 year. I had cable for 2. I now have Dish Network.

There's absolutely NO comparison. Dish Network is the best.

other than the Sunday Ticket exclusive with Directtv (which is BS).

Yep. (Echostar) Dishnet owns their own satellites.

DirectTV rents them or use to? Now 34% owned by News Corp (FOX).

htismaqe
12-28-2006, 12:58 PM
other than the Sunday Ticket exclusive with Directtv (which is BS).

Yep. (Echostar) Dishnet owns their own satellites.

DirectTV rents them or use to? Now 34% owned by News Corp (FOX).

I guess if you live outside of the KC coverage area (I live in Des Moines, which almost always gets the Chiefs game) then I could see A reason to have DirecTV. But I just can't see paying $300 for football anymore.

DirecTV's DVR's suck ass compared to Dish. And it's twice the price for half the high def channels and half the porn.

Manila-Chief
12-28-2006, 12:58 PM
Oh, I did't vote coz I've only had very stripped down basic Comcast .... basic TW (until I got DTV) and DTV ... DTV is better than the 2 cables I've had but I can't compare it with Dish.

Manila-Chief
12-28-2006, 01:12 PM
I guess if you live outside of the KC coverage area (I live in Des Moines, which almost always gets the Chiefs game) then I could see A reason to have DirecTV. But I just can't see paying $300 for football anymore.

DirecTV's DVR's suck ass compared to Dish. And it's twice the price for half the high def channels and half the porn.

I'm sure "and half the porn" is of major interest to a Pastor, sic.

I think the ticket is about $250 for the year ... much more than I want to pay but what else can i do??? Just did the math, that's over $15 a game ... expensive ... especially since they were on NFL Network/CBS/NBC/Fox a half dozen times this year???? If they had a legit chance of going deep into the playoffs the price would me more than worth it...

Chiefs Pantalones
12-28-2006, 01:16 PM
So if you're wanting HD and an HD-DVR it's best to go with Dish Network, Parker?

Does Dish have NFL Network, and local channels?

Skip Towne
12-28-2006, 01:18 PM
other than the Sunday Ticket exclusive with Directtv (which is BS).

Yep. (Echostar) Dishnet owns their own satellites.

DirectTV rents them or use to? Now 34% owned by News Corp (FOX).
They both own their satellites, dipshit. What difference would that make anyway?

mlyonsd
12-28-2006, 01:31 PM
Skip Towne.....I've been a Dish Network customer for 10 years and only upgraded my reciever once about 5 years ago when they'd do it for free.

I have a question for you...when I click for info about a particular show sometimes it takes 2-3 minutes for the info to show up. I was at a buddy's house and checked his and info pops right up.

Have they cut the bandwidth for info or something on the older stuff?

Baby Lee
12-28-2006, 01:36 PM
So if you're wanting HD and an HD-DVR it's best to go with Dish Network, Parker?

Does Dish have NFL Network, and local channels?
I am still ecstatic with my HD-DVR from Dish, and yes, they have locals and NFL network.

Chiefs Pantalones
12-28-2006, 01:43 PM
I am still ecstatic with my HD-DVR from Dish, and yes, they have locals and NFL network.

So what is the overall difference then, between DTV and Dish?

And does Dish broadcast in 1080i?

If I'm wanted lots of HD channels and no mess ups with an HD-DVR, go with Dish?

Lzen
12-28-2006, 02:07 PM
Skip Towne.....I've been a Dish Network customer for 10 years and only upgraded my reciever once about 5 years ago when they'd do it for free.

I have a question for you...when I click for info about a particular show sometimes it takes 2-3 minutes for the info to show up. I was at a buddy's house and checked his and info pops right up.

Have they cut the bandwidth for info or something on the older stuff?

Ummm......Skip doesn't know much about Dish Network. He's a DTV guy. I've had Dish Network for a couple of years now and I can tell you that I don't have the same problem. My program info pops up instantly. Perhaps you have a problem with your equipment? I would call them and have them check into it.

FWIW, I believe I read somewhere recently that Dish Network was voted best in customer service.

mlyonsd
12-28-2006, 02:29 PM
Ummm......Skip doesn't know much about Dish Network. He's a DTV guy. I've had Dish Network for a couple of years now and I can tell you that I don't have the same problem. My program info pops up instantly. Perhaps you have a problem with your equipment? I would call them and have them check into it.

FWIW, I believe I read somewhere recently that Dish Network was voted best in customer service.

Thanks for the info.

My info screen is still displays in the old fashion it always has for 10 years. My buddie's info guide looked a lot different which made me think there is a difference based on receiver, and the old receivers were given a smaller bandwidth to access the info. But I'll take your advice and call them. Just being lazy.

I do have another question for them or anyone that wants to answer....

The old Dish receivers had only one tuner in them. You could buy a dual LNB for the dish end but still had to run two cables to two receivers to be able to watch two different Dish stations at once.

My question is, the new Dish receivers claim they have two tuners....do you still need to run two cables to make that work?

ZepSinger
12-28-2006, 02:47 PM
I had Direct TV for 5 years and loved it. Then I decided to try bundling Cable/phone/Internet thru Time Warner cable to save money.

When my contract comes up on Feb. 2, I'm dropping everything but Roadrunner, upping our minutes on Sprint (which then becomes our only phones), and going back to Direct TV. I left the dish on the house, knowing there'd be a good chance I'd go back. I'm a DTV man from now on...

:thumb:

Baby Lee
12-28-2006, 02:47 PM
So what is the overall difference then, between DTV and Dish?

And does Dish broadcast in 1080i?

If I'm wanted lots of HD channels and no mess ups with an HD-DVR, go with Dish?
Haven't had DTV so I can't comment. Just seen what you've probably seen on here, grousing about DTV's HD-DVR.
I've seen 1080i and 720p. But I have my OTA antenna tied in, and can't recall what channels were which [ie, OTA locals, Dish locals, or Dish HD content].
The Dish HD-DVR is not completely intuitive, there are a few ways I'd like to see my information that I haven't figured out how to do. For instance, if I'm watching a block of a certain show I have saved up, I can sort the shows by name, but when I erase an episode, the list goes back to the top and I have to scroll down through everything to find the next ep. Also, if I'm watching a show that is concurrently still being taped [ie, I come in on ER at 9:20/Thurs and begin watching], if I switch to something else, when I come back to that show, I have to start over instead of the DVR marking my place [this is particularly frustrating if I'm watching a sporting event in lag time and want to check something else out when I catch up and the 'live' feed goes to commercial, because then I have to FF through 2+ hrs of footage every time I do that]. Small piddling things, really.
However, in terms of reliability, it's been rock solid.

greg63
12-28-2006, 03:05 PM
Gaz! :D

Chiefs Pantalones
12-28-2006, 03:11 PM
Haven't had DTV so I can't comment. Just seen what you've probably seen on here, grousing about DTV's HD-DVR.
I've seen 1080i and 720p. But I have my OTA antenna tied in, and can't recall what channels were which [ie, OTA locals, Dish locals, or Dish HD content].
The Dish HD-DVR is not completely intuitive, there are a few ways I'd like to see my information that I haven't figured out how to do. For instance, if I'm watching a block of a certain show I have saved up, I can sort the shows by name, but when I erase an episode, the list goes back to the top and I have to scroll down through everything to find the next ep. Also, if I'm watching a show that is concurrently still being taped [ie, I come in on ER at 9:20/Thurs and begin watching], if I switch to something else, when I come back to that show, I have to start over instead of the DVR marking my place [this is particularly frustrating if I'm watching a sporting event in lag time and want to check something else out when I catch up and the 'live' feed goes to commercial, because then I have to FF through 2+ hrs of footage every time I do that]. Small piddling things, really.
However, in terms of reliability, it's been rock solid.

I see. I wonder if anyone else besides Phobia has had problems with the HR20? Maybe it's because HD doesn't think pink socks are sexy.

Hailchief
12-28-2006, 03:16 PM
Who cares?

Which is better having Sex with a 5'5 blonde chick weighing in at 115 pounds or a 5'7 blonde chick weighing in at 105 pounds...Both hot as Heck?

That should be the question.....

Skip Towne
12-28-2006, 03:33 PM
I see. I wonder if anyone else besides Phobia has had problems with the HR20? Maybe it's because HD doesn't think pink socks are sexy.
Go to DBSTalk.com to see what other owners are saying about the HR20. There are several forums and I think they have one on just HD stuff.

Lzen
12-28-2006, 03:34 PM
Thanks for the info.

My info screen is still displays in the old fashion it always has for 10 years. My buddie's info guide looked a lot different which made me think there is a difference based on receiver, and the old receivers were given a smaller bandwidth to access the info. But I'll take your advice and call them. Just being lazy.

I do have another question for them or anyone that wants to answer....

The old Dish receivers had only one tuner in them. You could buy a dual LNB for the dish end but still had to run two cables to two receivers to be able to watch two different Dish stations at once.

My question is, the new Dish receivers claim they have two tuners....do you still need to run two cables to make that work?


I have a Dish Network Dual Tuner DVR. It only takes one cable to connect to the dish. One cable coming out of it goes into the TV in the living room. Another cable coming out of it goes through the basement to the outside, up the side of the house, and into the bedroom upstairs to connect to that TV. The remote nearest the DVR uses infrared while the other uses a radio signal (UHF) to control the DVR.

htismaqe
12-28-2006, 04:35 PM
Thanks for the info.

My info screen is still displays in the old fashion it always has for 10 years. My buddie's info guide looked a lot different which made me think there is a difference based on receiver, and the old receivers were given a smaller bandwidth to access the info. But I'll take your advice and call them. Just being lazy.

I do have another question for them or anyone that wants to answer....

The old Dish receivers had only one tuner in them. You could buy a dual LNB for the dish end but still had to run two cables to two receivers to be able to watch two different Dish stations at once.

My question is, the new Dish receivers claim they have two tuners....do you still need to run two cables to make that work?

You don't need dual inputs - the receiver itself can run both tuners off of just one input. You still need two output cables, though.

htismaqe
12-28-2006, 04:36 PM
So what is the overall difference then, between DTV and Dish?

And does Dish broadcast in 1080i?

If I'm wanted lots of HD channels and no mess ups with an HD-DVR, go with Dish?

Yep, more HD channels on Dish Network.

htismaqe
12-28-2006, 04:37 PM
I have a Dish Network Dual Tuner DVR. It only takes one cable to connect to the dish. One cable coming out of it goes into the TV in the living room. Another cable coming out of it goes through the basement to the outside, up the side of the house, and into the bedroom upstairs to connect to that TV. The remote nearest the DVR uses infrared while the other uses a radio signal (UHF) to control the DVR.

Bingo.

FloridaMan88
12-28-2006, 05:14 PM
Anything is better than having Time Warner-owned cable, but if you are choosing between DISH Network and Direct TV I'd have to go with Direct TV just because of the NFL Sunday Ticket

KChiefer
12-28-2006, 06:59 PM
DickNetwork can be hacked, therefore it's better than DirectTV IMO.

mlyonsd
12-28-2006, 07:02 PM
I have a Dish Network Dual Tuner DVR. It only takes one cable to connect to the dish. One cable coming out of it goes into the TV in the living room. Another cable coming out of it goes through the basement to the outside, up the side of the house, and into the bedroom upstairs to connect to that TV. The remote nearest the DVR uses infrared while the other uses a radio signal (UHF) to control the DVR.

Thanks.

mlyonsd
12-28-2006, 07:03 PM
You don't need dual inputs - the receiver itself can run both tuners off of just one input. You still need two output cables, though.

Thanks to you too.

KChiefs1
12-28-2006, 07:31 PM
Yep, more HD channels on Dish Network.

Can you tell me which HD channels that Dish Network has & that Directv doesn't?

PastorMikH
12-28-2006, 11:52 PM
Who cares?
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Lakin Kansas???????



There's probably only 4 of us on the BB that even know where that is!

If I lived in Lakin Kansas, I'd have Pionere Digital Cable and this wouldn't even be an issue.

BTW, I lived in Uselysses for 6 years. Any water in the Arkansas River there at Lakin?

SLAG
12-29-2006, 12:09 AM
Pastor,

Here is my story,

I had SBC Dish Network as my first Pay tv service i had on my own

I fell in love with it... the 522 dvr was the best...

well i had all the combined services with ATT/SBC... and i just one day called time warner to see what they would offer me to switch..

i got one HELL of a deal.. Free HD DVER, Free Install, No Contracts... the 8mb/s Cable modem.... HBO.... all the HD Channels for $100/ Month

well I bought my first home and moved into a COMCAST area.. they do not have a deal at all like that and prices are extremely high..

I was thinking about going back to ATT and getting the ATT HOMEZONE but no free install










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If i could find a OTA HD Tuner for a good price i would be good with that but still cant find anything under $250

PastorMikH
12-29-2006, 09:44 AM
So, after trying to figure out total upfront/monthly cost, what does a person actually need to plan on spending for a basic package with local channels and local sports chanels (not Sunday Ticket) along with 2-3 recievers? Seems like when I am looking at the web sites, I keep seeing extra charges put in, taken off, etc.

Skip Towne
12-29-2006, 09:55 AM
So, after trying to figure out total upfront/monthly cost, what does a person actually need to plan on spending for a basic package with local channels and local sports chanels (not Sunday Ticket) along with 2-3 recievers? Seems like when I am looking at the web sites, I keep seeing extra charges put in, taken off, etc.
D* has a basic package with 155 channels plus locals for $39.95. Each receiver after the first one is $4.99 per month. For $10 more you get an additional 30 channels including Showtime or Starz channels. Install is free unless you need custom work such as a pole mount or wall fishes. You work custom charges out with the installer.

Hailchief
12-29-2006, 10:16 AM
Lakin Kansas???????



There's probably only 4 of us on the BB that even know where that is!

If I lived in Lakin Kansas, I'd have Pionere Digital Cable and this wouldn't even be an issue.

BTW, I lived in Uselysses for 6 years. Any water in the Arkansas River there at Lakin?



Water in the River? NO

PastorMikH
12-29-2006, 11:45 AM
Water in the River? NO


That doesn't surprise me at all. Used to bowhunt right on the river about 5 miles west of Lakin. It was actually about 2 inches deeper than my rubber boots were tall back then. (Don't ask me how I know):)


I sure miss the sandhills. I loved bowhunting and calling coyotes up there.

htismaqe
12-29-2006, 02:02 PM
So, after trying to figure out total upfront/monthly cost, what does a person actually need to plan on spending for a basic package with local channels and local sports chanels (not Sunday Ticket) along with 2-3 recievers? Seems like when I am looking at the web sites, I keep seeing extra charges put in, taken off, etc.

I pay $19.95 for 85 channels and locals. I think the DVR is $5 extra. I only have 2 TV's, so I only needed one receiver.

PastorMikH
12-29-2006, 02:04 PM
I pay $19.95 for 85 channels and locals. I think the DVR is $5 extra. I only have 2 TV's, so I only needed one receiver.


One receiver? Do you both TVs showing the same thing or will one reciever handle more than 1 tv?

htismaqe
12-29-2006, 02:14 PM
One receiver? Do you both TVs showing the same thing or will one reciever handle more than 1 tv?

As was explained earlier in the thread ;) the DVR has two tuners for two TV's and has two separate remotes, one IR and one UHF.

PastorMikH
12-29-2006, 02:17 PM
As was explained earlier in the thread ;) the DVR has two tuners for two TV's and has two separate remotes, one IR and one UHF.



Well Excuuuuuuuusssssseeeeee Me!

This thread is several pages long, do you really expect me to read the entire thing???


:)


BTW, thanks.

htismaqe
12-29-2006, 02:21 PM
Well Excuuuuuuuusssssseeeeee Me!

This thread is several pages long, do you really expect me to read the entire thing???


:)


BTW, thanks.

mlyonsd thanked Lzen for the info, AND QUOTED HIS POST, just 12 posts ago. ;)

Manila-Chief
12-29-2006, 04:02 PM
One receiver? Do you both TVs showing the same thing or will one reciever handle more than 1 tv?

DTV will "give" you a receiver/DVR for each room/TV. You receive a remote for each DVR/receiver that will key in your TV. The push of one button turns on/off both units. It has 2 AV slots as well.

With the DVR you can record 2 programs at once; you can record one programs and watch another; but if you are recording 2 programs you have to watch one of those programs.

Manila-Chief
12-29-2006, 04:18 PM
I pay $19.95 for 85 channels and locals. I think the DVR is $5 extra. I only have 2 TV's, so I only needed one receiver.

Are local channels included in the $19.95? I thought I saw that locals were $5 extra??? Also, I believe that to get NFL Network on Dish you have to get the 2nd. most expensive package?

PastorMikH
12-29-2006, 04:37 PM
I did send an email off today to the coorporate offices of the company that provides our local cable and asked them if/when they are planning on adding the NFL Network. I also informed them that if they are not planning on adding it soon, I will be contemplating a switch to someone who does.

I'm waiting to see if I hear back.

Halfcan
12-29-2006, 05:04 PM
Free TV is the best_ I figured I haved saved over $5,000 over the last ten years.

PastorMikH
12-29-2006, 05:08 PM
Free TV is the best_ I figured I haved saved over $5,000 over the last ten years.



90+ miles from Ok City - We get one channel clear and another with snow.

htismaqe
12-29-2006, 05:10 PM
Are local channels included in the $19.95? I thought I saw that locals were $5 extra??? Also, I believe that to get NFL Network on Dish you have to get the 2nd. most expensive package?

Nope. I have lowest package and have the NFL Network. And yes, the locals are $5 I believe. I mispoke.

Yellowbutter72
12-29-2006, 07:41 PM
I had to vote for DISH because I've never had Direct T.V. I really like my DISH satellite so I would have to think that a satellite is a satellite? I really like having the NFL channel so I would never go back to Cable since they don't offer that channel. Good luck on your choice!

PastorMikH
01-23-2007, 12:14 PM
OK, the time to get service on is now. One more question for the DirectTV croud.

What kind of costs am I looking at if I don't like DirectTV and cancel?

Manila-Chief
01-23-2007, 01:03 PM
I like it so I have not cancelled. I was told that it cost nothing to cancel. You could give DTV a call and ask that question.

DeepPurple
01-23-2007, 01:54 PM
I post regularly on the Court TV website board when they have interesting trials such as they do now. I was just on the board and they have a pinned thread that said the Dish Network has pulled Court TV off their lineup. They didn't say why, but that they are aware of the situation and are looking into it.

htismaqe
01-23-2007, 01:57 PM
I post regularly on the Court TV website board when they have interesting trials such as they do now. I was just on the board and they have a pinned thread that said the Dish Network has pulled Court TV off their lineup. They didn't say why, but that they are aware of the situation and are looking into it.

They're playing commercials on Dish constantly telling Dish customers to "stand up" and demand that Dish start running CourTV again. I can't believe anybody actually watches that stuff...

DeepPurple
01-23-2007, 02:07 PM
demand that Dish start running CourtTV again. I can't believe anybody actually watches that stuff...
To each his own, I enjoyed Perry Mason and L.A. Law and most movies that have great courtroom action.

For the past two weeks they've been televising a live trial out of San Diego about a 23 year old Marine who died in 2002 at which time autopsy ruled he died of a heart attack. Fifteen months later they sent his kidney and liver to a lab and found high levels of arsenic and then changed it to a homicide. Without any direct evidence of the wife to arsenic or an extramarital affair or criminal behavior they charged her with his murder. The message board for the trial is about twice the action of this board, which is a lot to begin with, the network has a lot of fans.