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KCJohnny
01-02-2007, 10:42 PM
We have people out there saying it won't matter what QB starts at Indy, its all about running the ball. Here's a quote from a Planet poster with reply:

Quote:
----------------------------------------------------------------------Originally Posted by Brock
Jacksonville made 23 first downs by rushing against the Colts and 4 by passing.

You tell me what the deciding factor is.----------------------------------------------------------------------

Right, that was AT Jacksonville. In the RCA dome, Jax rushed for over 200 yards, controlled the ball for 39:24, and LOST 21-14. The reason? The stellar passing attack that produced 106 whole yards and 2 INTs. There's your smoking gun, folks.

This is why who plays QB Saturday is the deciding factor. JMHO!
KCJ

SPchief
01-02-2007, 10:44 PM
Give it a ****ing break. TRENT GREEN WILL START IN INDY

Brock
01-02-2007, 10:47 PM
Give it a ****ing break. TRENT GREEN WILL START IN INDY

Apparently there are no other storylines here.

Hoover
01-02-2007, 10:57 PM
We need to start the QB who can run the ball the best. We need to limit LJ and spread the ball around and give everyone a chance to run the ball. Damn I wish we still had John Tait...

:D

Wile_E_Coyote
01-02-2007, 11:01 PM
the rare playoff game & people can't help themselves from starting and re-starting a pissing match

Brock
01-02-2007, 11:02 PM
Kind of lame to start YET ANOTHER topic about this, but what else would I expect?

SPchief
01-02-2007, 11:02 PM
We need to start the QB who can run the ball the best. We need to limit LJ and spread the ball around and give everyone a chance to run the ball. Damn I wish we still had John Tait...

:D

Well shit, is Printers capable of playing? Lets run the option. :)

KCJohnny
01-02-2007, 11:04 PM
Awww shucks, its the playoffs, and this is a really important issue. I love Green but this Jax at Indy game is plenty of proof why running, running, running and trying to get by on the cheap in the passing game might not work. I'm sure the day crew will agree.

Deberg_1990
01-02-2007, 11:05 PM
Is Steve Bono still available? Dude runs a mean bootleg...

elvomito
01-02-2007, 11:17 PM
i thought will shields was taking snaps?

Brock
01-02-2007, 11:18 PM
Yeah, we're going up against the worst rush defense anyone can recall seeing since the 2001-05 Chiefs defense, one of the highest octane offenses in the league, but the biggest factor is which mediocre QB we're going to have in the lineup.

KCJohnny
01-02-2007, 11:29 PM
Yeah, we're going up against the worst rush defense anyone can recall seeing since the 2001-05 Chiefs defense, one of the highest octane offenses in the league, but the biggest factor is which mediocre QB we're going to have in the lineup.

In the RCA dome, Jax rushed for over 200 yards, controlled the ball for 39:24, and LOST 21-14. The reason? The stellar passing attack that produced 106 whole yards and 2 INTs. There's your smoking gun, folks.

Tribal Warfare
01-02-2007, 11:32 PM
This is what I find funny when people make half assed remarks about a positioned they never played before.

This is what you have in Green the man goes through his progressions quickly and properly, mans up when he needs to rush 5 yard he'll get you five yards . When Green had the line he had last year he was one of the best QBs in the league period. Now, the O-line is mediocre which in turn contributed to him being out for 8 games. Everyone who has been watching the games knows KC run blocks decently, but has a poor pass protection. Notice you haven't seen alot of seven step drops lately?
With Huard you have a QB who lives and dies with the success of LJ, he only goes through about two progressions then throws it away. Huard is a QB who won't lose you the game, but he won't help you win a game either if the team is down +7 points.



Green is THE MAN PERIOD

Brock
01-02-2007, 11:32 PM
In the RCA dome, Jax rushed for over 200 yards, controlled the ball for 39:24, and LOST 21-14. The reason? The stellar passing attack that produced 106 whole yards and 2 INTs. There's your smoking gun, folks.

I agree. They put too much emphasis on the QB when they should have concentrated on what they were obviously supposed to be doing which was rush for over 400 yards.

It's pretty obvious which gameplan worked.

Halfcan
01-02-2007, 11:40 PM
Kind of lame to start YET ANOTHER topic about this, but what else would I expect?

johhny is going to take GC's spot as the #1 Damon fan boy.

007
01-02-2007, 11:42 PM
Is Steve Bono still available? Dude runs a mean bootleg...
Against a Buddy Ryan D no less too.

Chiefs Pantalones
01-02-2007, 11:54 PM
I think we should re-sign Donnell Bennet and get rid of LJ because he's going to want ALOT of carries in this game and we can't have that.

Phobia
01-03-2007, 12:05 AM
I think we should revoke Johnny's thread creation abilities. He obviously doesn't know how to respond within a thread that is already discussing the issue.

Not only does he want the soapbox and the microphone all to himself but he wants to steal the soapbox and move it to an entirely new location.

007
01-03-2007, 12:06 AM
I think we should re-sign Donnell Bennet and get rid of LJ because he's going to want ALOT of carries in this game and we can't have that.
Greg "The Real Deal" Hill

Bowser
01-03-2007, 12:09 AM
This thread is like deja vu all over again.

KCJohnny
01-03-2007, 12:09 AM
I think we should revoke Johnny's thread creation abilities. He obviously doesn't know how to respond within a thread that is already discussing the issue.

Not only does he want the soapbox and the microphone all to himself but he wants to steal the soapbox and move it to an entirely new location.

A guy with 53,139 posts worried about somebody "stealing the spotlight"! LOL! At least I have a life. Forgive me if I have not opened all 250 threads about Huard/Green. Its all 610 sports and 810 sports radio are talking about. I repent. Please og great mod, direct me to th thread already in progress.
:rolleyes:

SPchief
01-03-2007, 12:16 AM
A guy with 53,139 posts worried about somebody "stealing the spotlight"! LOL! At least I have a life. Forgive me if I have not opened all 250 threads about Huard/Green. Its all 610 sports and 810 sports radio are talking about. I repent. Please og great mod, direct me to th thread already in progress.
:rolleyes:


Well there is this one

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=155623
and
http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=155651
http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=155631
http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=155629
http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=155643
http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=155451

All within the last 24 hours



Edited to resopnd to
"Excuse me, I haven't opened all 250 threads about Huard/Green"



Why post a new thread about the Huard/Green debate when you know there are more about them?
2 started by yourself

Chiefs Pantalones
01-03-2007, 12:17 AM
A guy with 53,139 posts worried about somebody "stealing the spotlight"! LOL! At least I have a life. Forgive me if I have not opened all 250 threads about Huard/Green. Its all 610 sports and 810 sports radio are talking about. I repent. Please og great mod, direct me to th thread already in progress.
:rolleyes:

Don't ask Phobs for guidance. Ask him where he gets his guidance. The answer? The same place all of us do. Anytime controversy strikes, whether it be personally or for football, we simply ask...

WWMD? What Would Marty Do?

Then we are at peace. But only then.

Deberg_1990
01-03-2007, 12:18 AM
Well there is this one

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=155623
and
http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=155651
http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=155631
http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=155629
http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=155643
http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=155451

All within the last 24 hours



Edited to resopnd to
"Excuse me, I haven't opened all 250 threads about Huard/Green"



Why post a new thread about the Huard/Green debate when you know there are more about them?
2 started by yourself

Maybe we just need an "Official" Huard Vs. Green thread???

SPchief
01-03-2007, 12:20 AM
Maybe we just need an "Official" Huard Vs. Green thread???


I believe its on there.





sarcasm noted

KCJohnny
01-03-2007, 12:41 AM
Well there is this one

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=155623
and
http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=155651
http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=155631
http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=155629
http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=155643
http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=155451

All within the last 24 hours



Edited to resopnd to
"Excuse me, I haven't opened all 250 threads about Huard/Green"



Why post a new thread about the Huard/Green debate when you know there are more about them?
2 started by yourself

Well, if I had read anybody making my point (below) I would have refrained. Since not, here goes again:

In the RCA dome, Jax rushed for over 200 yards, controlled the ball for 39:24, and LOST 21-14. The reason? The stellar passing attack that produced 106 whole yards and 2 INTs. There's your smoking gun, folks.

SPchief
01-03-2007, 12:49 AM
Well, if I had read anybody making my point (below) I would have refrained. Since not, here goes again:

In the RCA dome, Jax rushed for over 200 yards, controlled the ball for 39:24, and LOST 21-14. The reason? The stellar passing attack that produced 106 whole yards and 2 INTs. There's your smoking gun, folks.



What point are you trying to make?

Chiefs Pantalones
01-03-2007, 12:52 AM
OMG!!!11!!!1111!!! HE'S EVERYWHERE!!!11!!!!!11111

KCJohnny
01-03-2007, 12:53 AM
What point are you trying to make?

OK, here's the Sesame Street version:
Just banging LJ all day will NOT beat the Colts in Indy. Clever, mature and athletic play at the QB position is required. Damon Huard gives KC the best chance to win with that requirement. Jax has already established this by their 21-14 loss AT the RCA Dome when they rushed for over 200 yards but had 2 INTs and only 106 yards passing and LOST even after controlling the ball for 39:24.

Is that clear enough for ya?

SPchief
01-03-2007, 12:54 AM
OK, here's the Sesame Street version:
Just banging LJ all day will NOT beat the Colts in Indy. Clever, mature and athletic play at the QB position is required. Damon Huard gives KC the best chance to win with that requirement. Jax has already established this by their 21-14 loss AT the RCA Dome when they rushed for over 200 yards but had 2 INTs and only 106 yards passing and LOST even after controlling the ball for 39:24.

Is that clear enough for ya?


So why not post it in one of the other 10 Huard/Green threads?

Chiefs Pantalones
01-03-2007, 12:57 AM
<-------shoots self in head

KCJohnny
01-03-2007, 12:57 AM
So why not post it in one of the other 10 Huard/Green threads?
Why keep this thread alive by your patronage of my thread topic? Next.

Logical
01-03-2007, 12:58 AM
Kind of lame to start YET ANOTHER topic about this, but what else would I expect?

Consider the source. Hell it is a verbatim post from another thread.

KCJohnny
01-03-2007, 01:01 AM
Consider the source. Hell it is a verbatim post from another thread.
:D

Chiefs Pantalones
01-03-2007, 01:02 AM
Huard should start, run D is bad, run it.

KCJohnny
01-03-2007, 01:04 AM
Huard should start, run D is bad, run it.

And pass it smarter than Jax did, who rushed for over 200 yds, had TOP for 39:24 and lost because of 16-28 passing for 106 yds and 2 INTs.

cdcox
01-03-2007, 01:05 AM
In the RCA dome, Jax rushed for over 200 yards, controlled the ball for 39:24, and LOST 21-14. The reason? The stellar passing attack that produced 106 whole yards and 2 INTs. There's your smoking gun, folks.

Very difficult to boil down a whole game to a stat like that. You have to look at the play-by-play to see why a team really lost. Here are the key plays of the game, especially when the game is decided by only one score and the losing team DOMINATED in the running game.

First consider that Fred Taylor carried 21 times for 74 yards (3.5 ypc), while Jones-Drew gained 103 yards on only 13 carries (7.9 ypc). Do you think that the balance of carries between the hot back and the struggling back had anything to do with the outcome of this game?

Next consider that Jacksonville missed two FG (24 and 49 yds indoor). While less than the decisive margin, it certainly affected the situation and strategy during the whole game. Do you think that the missed FG could have contributed tot he outcome of the game?

Now let's look at a few key plays.

2nd and 4 at IND 34 (:54) B.Leftwich pass deep middle intended for G.Wrighster INTERCEPTED by J.David at IND 9. J.David pushed ob at IND 25 for 16 yards (C.Naeole).

Do you think the fact that Jacksonville elected to pass in a situation where they had a 7.9 ypc back and two downs to make a first may have affected the outcome of the game?

3rd and 1 at IND 31 (:57) B.Leftwich pass incomplete short right to G.Wrighster.

Do you think the play selection in this situation had anything to do with the out come of the game?

The fact is there were at least 4 other contributing factors to the Jacksonville loss in Indy. Your smoking gun is full of weed.

Chiefs Pantalones
01-03-2007, 01:05 AM
And pass it smarter than Jax did, who rushed for over 200 yds, had TOP for 39:24 and lost because of 16-28 passing for 106 yds and 2 INTs.

Huard should start, run D is bad, run it.

stevieray
01-03-2007, 01:08 AM
[QUOTE=KCJohnny]

please stop repeating yourself.

BWillie
01-03-2007, 01:10 AM
Ok, so who do I have to pay from the Planet to drive to Indy to take out Peyton Tonya Harding style? I think we would have no problems with Indy if it was Jim Sorgi back at the helm.

007
01-03-2007, 01:10 AM
[QUOTE=KCJohnny]

please stop repeating yourself.
He likes to cut-and-paste. It is how his brain works.

luv
01-03-2007, 01:11 AM
[QUOTE=KCJohnny]

please stop repeating yourself.
That's what I was thinking. How many different ways can you possibly say the same thing? Please don't answer that.

KCJohnny
01-03-2007, 01:12 AM
He likes to cut-and-paste. It is how his brain works.

At least my brain works.
Touche'
:)

KCJohnny
01-03-2007, 01:13 AM
That's what I was thinking. How many different ways can you possibly say the same thing? Please don't answer that.

Well, none of you geniuses thought of it.
KCJ
Public servant

007
01-03-2007, 01:14 AM
At least my brain works.
Touche'
:)
WOW. You really got me there. I am sooooo impressed. :rolleyes:

stevieray
01-03-2007, 01:17 AM
Well, none of you geniuses thought of it.
KCJ
Public servant

good point...I'd never think of saying the same thing three times in the same thread....saying the same thing three times in the same thread..saying the same thing same thing three times in the same thread.

greg63
01-03-2007, 01:26 AM
good point...I'd never think of saying the same thing three times in the same thread....saying the same thing three times in the same thread..saying the same thing same thing three times in the same thread.

Me either
Me either
Me either

KCJohnny
01-03-2007, 01:26 AM
good point...I'd never think of saying the same thing three times in the same thread....saying the same thing three times in the same thread..saying the same thing same thing three times in the same thread.

Good night, Chiefs fans. May the Chiefs win Saturday by God's grace and fan support. May the knuckleheads in cyberspace be humbled and may the true Chiefs fans be exultant in a win at Indianapolis Saturday~!!!!!!!!!
GO CHIEFS!!!!!!
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y44/32582ndABN/CopyofChiefsScrimmage.jpg

SPchief
01-03-2007, 01:56 AM
Good night, Chiefs fans. May the Chiefs win Saturday by God's grace and fan support. May the knuckleheads in cyberspace be humbled and may the true Chiefs fans be exultant in a win at Indianapolis Saturday~!!!!!!!!!
GO CHIEFS!!!!!!
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y44/32582ndABN/CopyofChiefsScrimmage.jpg



Go chiefs




And do you know that you posted a picture of Green under center, right?

luv
01-03-2007, 01:57 AM
Go chiefs




And do you know that you posted a picture of Green under center, right?
I thought that was weird, too. After being so gung ho about Huard.

Chiefs Pantalones
01-03-2007, 02:03 AM
I thought that was weird, too. After being so gung ho about Huard.

http://www.cojeco.cz/attach/photos/3b4a3998875c8.jpg

BWillie
01-03-2007, 02:05 AM
http://www.cojeco.cz/attach/photos/3b4a3998875c8.jpg

Forrest Gump > (Dante Hall+Devin Hester)

htismaqe
01-03-2007, 08:44 AM
Nice to see that KCJ has picked up the cf1963 torch.

Nothing like 4 or 5 new threads a day to talk about the SAME DAMNED THING.

Dartgod
01-03-2007, 08:57 AM
I smell the beginning of another epic meltdown by KCJohnny. He'll be questioning everyone's patriotism by the end of the day.

ChiTown
01-03-2007, 09:09 AM
I smell the beginning of another epic meltdown by KCJohnny. He'll be questioning everyone's patriotism by the end of the day.

I call dibs on the Cherry pie..........

ROYC75
01-03-2007, 09:11 AM
I smell the beginning of another epic meltdown by KCJohnny. He'll be questioning everyone's patriotism by the end of the day.


Hmmm, I did not have sexual relations with that woman ..............

Phobia
01-03-2007, 09:48 AM
A guy with 53,139 posts worried about somebody "stealing the spotlight"! LOL! At least I have a life.

In the past week you've created 9 threads. In the past month I've created 4.

Your hobby is singing Beach Boys songs in the key of suck. At least I don't have a philkloster.com website to showcase how much I blow chunks.

Redrum_69
01-03-2007, 09:50 AM
We have people out there saying it won't matter what QB starts at Indy, its all about running the ball. Here's a quote from a Planet poster with reply:

Quote:
----------------------------------------------------------------------Originally Posted by Brock
Jacksonville made 23 first downs by rushing against the Colts and 4 by passing.

You tell me what the deciding factor is.----------------------------------------------------------------------

Right, that was AT Jacksonville. In the RCA dome, Jax rushed for over 200 yards, controlled the ball for 39:24, and LOST 21-14. The reason? The stellar passing attack that produced 106 whole yards and 2 INTs. There's your smoking gun, folks.

This is why who plays QB Saturday is the deciding factor. JMHO!
KCJ





Since Herman Edwards reads this board...he'll be taking notes since you posted in all different colors...

ChiTown
01-03-2007, 09:52 AM
In the past week you've created 9 threads. In the past month I've created 4.

Your hobby is singing Beach Boys songs in the key of suck. At least I don't have a philkloster.com website to showcase how much I blow chunks.

ROFL

That's reply is chalked full of funny $hit. lmao.

Hammock Parties
01-03-2007, 09:53 AM
At least I don't have a philkloster.com website to showcase how much I blow chunks.

No, but you sure do make a purty lion:

siberian khatru
01-03-2007, 09:56 AM
In the past week you've created 9 threads. In the past month I've created 4.

Your hobby is singing Beach Boys songs in the key of suck. At least I don't have a philkloster.com website to showcase how much I blow chunks.

ROFL ROFL

Ah, old times ...

Reerun_KC
01-03-2007, 09:59 AM
Since Herman Edwards reads this board...he'll be taking notes since you posted in all different colors...


I didnt know they issued crayons when we signed up to the Chiefs Planet?

I didnt get any crayons or a smoking weed gun...

No, I got hosed.

Redrum_69
01-03-2007, 10:00 AM
I didnt know they issued crayons when we signed up to the Chiefs Planet?

I didnt get any crayons or a smoking weed gun...

No, I got hosed.


You didnt get the memo did you....some of us got antifreeze in their coffee...which is why KCjohnny repeats himself

Reerun_KC
01-03-2007, 10:02 AM
You didnt get the memo did you....some of us got antifreeze in their coffee...which is why KCjohnny repeats himself


No didnt get the memo, but do make sure I have coversheets on my TPS reports though.

Iowanian
01-03-2007, 10:09 AM
oh boy.

TN_Chief
01-03-2007, 10:12 AM
Whoever plays Q at Indy, they have to be successful at completing passes. Doesn't have to be 70 yard bombs...just need to keep the threat of a legit passing attack so that Indy can't completely load up to stop the run.

Donger
01-03-2007, 10:13 AM
I call dibs on the Cherry pie..........

This person is the origin of the infamous 'pie' stuff?

Reerun_KC
01-03-2007, 10:17 AM
Whoever plays Q at Indy, they have to be successful at completing passes. Doesn't have to be 70 yard bombs...just need to keep the threat of a legit passing attack so that Indy can't completely load up to stop the run.


Have they stopped it this year?

Dave Lane
01-03-2007, 11:09 AM
Awww shucks, its the playoffs, and this is a really important issue. I love Green but this Jax at Indy game is plenty of proof why running, running, running and trying to get by on the cheap in the passing game might not work. I'm sure the day crew will agree.

I don't agree. Green gives us the best shot. Its not like Gannon Girlbac where Trent is returning for this game from injury. Its a game of inches and some luck. I think Green gives us a 30% or so chance of winning Huard 25%. So really its going to be lady luck again if we do win.

Dave
~still being hopeful for catching lightning in a bottle.

Dave Lane
01-03-2007, 11:10 AM
This person is the origin of the infamous 'pie' stuff?


Why yes, yes he is...

Dave

Dave Lane
01-03-2007, 11:21 AM
http://chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=108038

Here you go Donger its worth the read truly classic...

Dave

Donger
01-03-2007, 11:38 AM
http://chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=108038

Here you go Donger its worth the read truly classic...

Dave

Wow. Obviously PTSD.

Dave Lane
01-03-2007, 12:35 PM
Wow. Obviously PTSD.

Definately pie-worthy...

Dave

Phobia
01-03-2007, 01:24 PM
http://chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=108038

Here you go Donger its worth the read truly classic...

Dave

I spent about 20 minutes re-reading that thread. I was fortunate to have been involved LIVE. All-time classic. Absolutely hilarious.

Chiefs Pantalones
01-03-2007, 01:40 PM
IMO, KCJohnson is just setting the Chiefs up. He says he wants the Chiefs to win, and that's why he's going clepto on the threads. He's rooting for the Chiefs to win, yes...but he's rooting for the Chiefs to win so they can get beat by Marty the next week so he can come back here and go bombs away on why Marty is king of kings.

htismaqe
01-03-2007, 02:23 PM
IMO, KCJohnson is just setting the Chiefs up. He says he wants the Chiefs to win, and that's why he's going clepto on the threads. He's rooting for the Chiefs to win, yes...but he's rooting for the Chiefs to win so they can get beat by Marty the next week so he can come back here and go bombs away on why Marty is king of kings.

If that was intentional, bravo.

If not, you have no idea how ironic that is.

FringeNC
01-03-2007, 02:25 PM
We have people out there saying it won't matter what QB starts at Indy, its all about running the ball. Here's a quote from a Planet poster with reply:

Quote:
----------------------------------------------------------------------Originally Posted by Brock
Jacksonville made 23 first downs by rushing against the Colts and 4 by passing.

You tell me what the deciding factor is.----------------------------------------------------------------------

Right, that was AT Jacksonville. In the RCA dome, Jax rushed for over 200 yards, controlled the ball for 39:24, and LOST 21-14. The reason? The stellar passing attack that produced 106 whole yards and 2 INTs. There's your smoking gun, folks.

This is why who plays QB Saturday is the deciding factor. JMHO!
KCJ

WTF? I haven't read through this thread, but how you get from point A to point B in your argument is a huge mystery to me.

Chiefs Pantalones
01-03-2007, 03:23 PM
If that was intentional, bravo.

If not, you have no idea how ironic that is.

lol, yep it was intentional.

KCJohnny
01-03-2007, 03:55 PM
Nice to see that KCJ has picked up the cf1963 torch.

Nothing like 4 or 5 new threads a day to talk about the SAME DAMNED THING.


C'mon guys, gimmee a break.

1. I just went to my first Chiefs game ever which was a dramatic, emotional close win to make it into the playoffs. I'm still excited about that.
2. I just moved here and after 35 years of rooting for the Chiefs I can call in to 610 Sports or 810 Sports and participate as a local - that's a blast for me. Also the TV coverage on METRO Sports is awesome.
3. We are IN THE PLAYOFFS!!!! That's a big deal from my foxhole.
4. My thread topics (like this one) at least posit a unique angle, ie, why the QB position counts, a previous game to illustrate, etc..
5. If you don't like what I am saying, ignore me. I'm not hurting anyone, and no mod has admonished me to post less/start fewer topix.

Soon the season will be over and you can all go back to insulting each other in brother love.

GO CHIEFS!!!!!

Halfcan
01-03-2007, 03:58 PM
Fire away Johnny and Welcome to KC. Arrowhead kicks ass huh?

htismaqe
01-03-2007, 03:59 PM
C'mon guys, gimmee a break.

1. I just went to my first Chiefs game ever which was a dramatic, emotional close win to make it into the playoffs. I'm still excited about that.
2. I just moved here and after 35 years of rooting for the Chiefs I can call in to 610 Sports or 810 Sports and participate as a local - that's a blast for me. Also the TV coverage on METRO Sports is awesome.
3. We are IN THE PLAYOFFS!!!! That's a big deal from my foxhole.
4. My thread topics (like this one) at least posit a unique angle, ie, why the QB position counts, a previous game to illustrate, etc..
5. If you don't like what I am saying, ignore me. I'm not hurting anyone, and no mod has admonished me to post less/start fewer topix.

Soon the season will be over and you can all go back to insulting each other in brother love.

GO CHIEFS!!!!!

1. Awesome. I was at the win over San Diego earlier this season and I couldn't talk for 2 full days afterwards. I love game-winning FG's!
2. That is cool. I'd love to live in KC, even though I can listen to, and call, 610 and 810 here only 3 hours away.
3. I KNOW!!!
4. There's no need to make new threads, when they're all about the same topic. Just post your unique angles in the same thread.
5. I admonished you to start fewer threads, and I'm a mod. Therefore, a mod HAS admonished you to start less threads. :D

KCJohnny
01-03-2007, 04:04 PM
1. Awesome. I was at the win over San Diego earlier this season and I couldn't talk for 2 full days afterwards. I love game-winning FG's!
2. That is cool. I'd love to live in KC, even though I can listen to, and call, 610 and 810 here only 3 hours away.
3. I KNOW!!!
4. There's no need to make new threads, when they're all about the same topic. Just post your unique angles in the same thread.
5. I admonished you to start fewer threads, and I'm a mod. Therefore, a mod HAS admonished you to start less threads. :D

Message sent.
Message received.
KCJ
Feeling the playoff hysteria in Fort Leavenworth...
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KCJohnny
01-03-2007, 04:11 PM
Fire away Johnny and Welcome to KC. Arrowhead kicks ass huh?

There were a few boorish fans screaming expletives over the head of my 13 year old daughter, but other than that most people are die-hard Chiefs lovers with exemplary citizenship (except the guy who mooned his buds after the game in parking lot :rolleyes: ). The bad weather, the wind/rain/snow could not hope to dampen my spirits that day. That game had everything - the post season on the line, playoff atmosphere (Jax needed it too), Huard came in and thrilled the crowd, LJ breaks records, Tony Gonzales got a bad spot or would have broken an NFL record, Jared Allen's MONSTROUS play at DE batting down balls, sacking QBs, etc..., Pollard's blocked punt, Mr. Hunt being memorialized on the jumbotron by KC legends, etc... Man it was like a whole season in ONE GAME. Then getting home and watching Nedney ice the Donks to get us in - oh man, that was just miraculous! So please, pardon me if I seem excited, this is as close as I have ever been to Chiefs nation since I became a fan in 1971 and I'm milking it for all its worth!

GO CHIEFS!!!!!! DESTROY THE COLTS!!!!!

Thig Lyfe
01-03-2007, 04:17 PM
Ok, so who do I have to pay from the Planet to drive to Indy to take out Peyton Tonya Harding style? I think we would have no problems with Indy if it was Jim Sorgi back at the helm.

:hmmm:

See: Derek Anderson and Quinn Gray

htismaqe
01-03-2007, 04:19 PM
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KCJ
Feeling the playoff hysteria in Fort Leavenworth...
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Leavenworth?!?!

I hope you're "just visiting". :D

huskerdooz
01-03-2007, 04:23 PM
This is why who plays QB Saturday is the deciding factor. JMHO!
KCJ[/COLOR]

I'm not even going to enter into the who should play QB pissing match. What I find amusing is that KCJ claims that it is "JMHO", i.e., "Just My Humble Opinion".

I rather seriously doubt that KCJ ever in his life has had just a "humble opinion". Of course that's just my opinion, unhumble as it is.

~dooz

Kweens
01-03-2007, 04:42 PM
LJ is always the best option against that porous D-line. If the Chiefs' Oline holds up then Trent will have a field day.

KCJohnny
01-03-2007, 05:06 PM
LJ is always the best option against that porous D-line. If the Chiefs' Oline holds up then Trent will have a field day.

I hope you are correct, really. I would love for Trent to win a playoff Game with the team he helped establish as an offensive Juggernaut for 4 years. However, I believe the conventional wisdom is stack to box to stop LJ and dare Trent Green to beat you with his passing.

Another reason why it makes sense to spread the ball around to Michael Bennett and Dante, Kris Wilson, etc... Don't allow the Colts to do to LJ what Pittsbufgh and Arizona did to him (or what Solari did to him, take your pick).

Dartgod
01-03-2007, 05:15 PM
There were a few boorish fans screaming expletives over the head of my 13 year old daughter, but other than that most people are die-hard Chiefs lovers with exemplary citizenship (except the guy who mooned his buds after the game in parking lot :rolleyes: ). The bad weather, the wind/rain/snow could not hope to dampen my spirits that day. That game had everything - the post season on the line, playoff atmosphere (Jax needed it too), Huard came in and thrilled the crowd, LJ breaks records, Tony Gonzales got a bad spot or would have broken an NFL record, Jared Allen's MONSTROUS play at DE batting down balls, sacking QBs, etc..., Pollard's blocked punt, Mr. Hunt being memorialized on the jumbotron by KC legends, etc... Man it was like a whole season in ONE GAME. Then getting home and watching Nedney ice the Donks to get us in - oh man, that was just miraculous! So please, pardon me if I seem excited, this is as close as I have ever been to Chiefs nation since I became a fan in 1971 and I'm milking it for all its worth!

GO CHIEFS!!!!!! DESTROY THE COLTS!!!!!
Despite any disagreements we might have, I'm glad you got to experience Arrowhead for the first time in person. It's something that every Chief fan should get to do. I've been to well over 100 (maybe even close to 200) games there and the game day experience is something I NEVER take for granted.

Were you in there in time for the pre-game Hunt tribute? When Tony DePardo played Taps on his trumpet, I nearly started bawling.

KCJohnny
01-03-2007, 05:22 PM
Despite any disagreements we might have, I'm glad you got to experience Arrowhead for the first time in person. It's something that every Chief fan should get to do. I've been to well over 100 (maybe even close to 200) games there and the game day experience is something I NEVER take for granted.

Were you in there in time for the pre-game Hunt tribute? When Tony DePardo played Taps on his trumpet, I nearly started bawling.

The disagreements we have are fine as long as we are disagreeing about football. The problem comes when certain posters (not saying you, necessarily) make the discussion about the poster and not the post.

Unfortunately, I had no idea how long it would take to get off I-70 and park, so my daughter and I were seated like 2 minutes before the opening kickoff. As a professional Soldier, I have heard taps played in memorium many, many times. We all loved Mr. Hunt. While it may be questionable theology, I love the discussion about Mr. Hunt's influence from his lofty perch in heaven as a way of aaffecting the Chiefs unbelievably good fortune. That game Sunday was one of the best experiences of my life, and I was in Baghdad when we got Saddam. ;)

greg63
01-03-2007, 10:21 PM
I call dibs on the Cherry pie..........

Did someone say pie???

KCJohnny
01-04-2007, 07:26 PM
I'm not even going to enter into the who should play QB pissing match. What I find amusing is that KCJ claims that it is "JMHO", i.e., "Just My Humble Opinion".

I rather seriously doubt that KCJ ever in his life has had just a "humble opinion". Of course that's just my opinion, unhumble as it is.

~dooz

When its time for humilty, I try to humble myself. When its time for bombast, I excel. Just talent, I s'pose. :D

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CHIEF4EVER
01-04-2007, 07:38 PM
Just banging LJ all day will NOT beat the Colts in Indy. Clever, mature and athletic play at the QB position is required. Damon Huard gives KC the best chance to win with that requirement. Jax has already established this by their 21-14 loss AT the RCA Dome when they rushed for over 200 yards but had 2 INTs and only 106 yards passing and LOST even after controlling the ball for 39:24.

Just a question John....what makes you think we will have 2 picks?

KCJohnny
01-04-2007, 08:14 PM
Just a question John....what makes you think we will have 2 picks?

I don't. I was just making the point that we run the ball all dang day and it won't be enough if we get the kind of performance from the QB position we have been getting lately. I countered that on another thread with Green's last performance vs Indy - 27/34 for 389 yds, 3 TDs, 0 INTs - a stellar performance. Bottom line, just running through the porous Colts D hasn't been enough for any team to beat them in the RCA dome, and we will also need a high octane passing performance or we're not going to keep pace with an Indy offense that averages 30 ppg at home.

That said, with Green's 16 turnovers (14?) in 8 games, two TOs is hardly a reach. Two TOs will probably put the game OUT of reach.

Reerun_KC
01-04-2007, 09:39 PM
I don't. I was just making the point that we run the ball all dang day and it won't be enough if we get the kind of performance from the QB position we have been getting lately. I countered that on another thread with Green's last performance vs Indy - 27/34 for 389 yds, 3 TDs, 0 INTs - a stellar performance. Bottom line, just running through the porous Colts D hasn't been enough for any team to beat them in the RCA dome, and we will also need a high octane passing performance or we're not going to keep pace with an Indy offense that averages 30 ppg at home.

That said, with Green's 16 turnovers (14?) in 8 games, two TOs is hardly a reach. Two TOs will probably put the game OUT of reach.


So basically we dont need Huard in there getting hit by Freeney... 5 fumbles lost in 8 games it pretty risky for a playoff game...

KCJohnny
01-04-2007, 09:43 PM
So basically we dont need Huard in there getting hit by Freeney... 5 fumbles lost in 8 games it pretty risky for a playoff game...

Freeny this year isn't Freeny of 2004. Huard's only turned the ball over half as much. That said, please check out my thread about Green throwing for 389 yards vs Indy in '04. I HOPE Trent has another huge game like that, but I haven't seen it all year, and some of that is Herm dumbing down the playbook. I still maintain Huard gives us the best chance of winning.
KCJ

Reerun_KC
01-04-2007, 09:46 PM
Freeny this year isn't Freeny of 2004. Huard's only turned the ball over half as much. That said, please check out my thread about Green throwing for 389 yards vs Indy in '04. I HOPE Trent has another huge game like that, but I haven't seen it all year, and some of that is Herm dumbing down the playbook. I still maintain Huard gives us the best chance of winning.
KCJ

I was at the Game in Oct 31 of 2004.... What a great game it was.

maintain it all you want, we are just thankful we have Trent a proven Veteran in there to lead this team. I would be shatting my pants if Huard was starting..

All I can think about with Damon Huard is, the complete meltdown at Miami by him...

You know you guys are only remembering trent for his last mistakes. Well I am remembering Huard from his last game meltdown. Thank God Tony G is a tough guy, Huard damn neared ended his season in Miami.... Hung him out to dry to many times.

KCJohnny
01-04-2007, 09:50 PM
I was at the Game in Oct 31 of 2004.... What a great game it was.

maintain it all you want, we are just thankful we have Trent a proven Veteran in there to lead this team. I would be shatting my pants if Huard was starting..

All I can think about with Damon Huard is, the complete meltdown at Miami by him...

You know you guys are only remembering trent for his last mistakes. Well I am remembering Huard from his last game meltdown. Thank God Tony G is a tough guy, Huard damn neared ended his season in Miami.... Hung him out to dry to many times.

Chris Mortensen was on 610 Sports tonight as an "insider" and said all the league's smart people supported Trent Green as the QB that should start this game. He referred to the sportswriters, owners, coaches, etc... who do the MVP balloting and said outside of KC, there is no mention of Damon Huard as a possible starter for this game. Green has a huge rep outside this city that has eraned him tons of respect. He just better bring his 2004 self to the RCA Dome Saturday...

Reerun_KC
01-04-2007, 09:53 PM
Chris Mortensen was on 610 Sports tonight as an "insider" and said all the league's smart people supported Trent Green as the QB that should start this game. He referred to the sportswriters, owners, coaches, etc... who do the MVP balloting and said outside of KC, there is no mention of Damon Huard as a possible starter for this game. Green has a huge rep outside this city that has eraned him tons of respect. He just better bring his 2004 self to the RCA Dome Saturday...


Well it is not like Trent is a bad QB, only a year remove from back to back pro bowl seasons. the only, only reason Trent doenst have a superbowl ring with the Chiefs is because DV ignored the Defense and kept polishing his offense....


Trent is a superbowl caliber QB, and the best to only Lenny in KC... BTW, if you remember Mike livingston played most of the season when the chiefs won the superbowl.. Dawson was hurt most of the year....

I will take my chances with Trent anytime any game...

Phobia
01-04-2007, 10:09 PM
Trent is a superbowl caliber QB, and the best to only Lenny in KC...

He is? Why is everybody keeping this secret from me?

Reerun_KC
01-04-2007, 10:28 PM
He is? Why is everybody keeping this secret from me?


You didnt get the memo?

Skip Towne
01-04-2007, 11:00 PM
How many weeks has Johnny been back this time? How has he not been provoked into another meltdown/absence yet?

Man, the Planet's really gone to shit since that Phil guy left.
The n00bs are to blame.

KCJohnny
01-05-2007, 10:26 AM
How many weeks has Johnny been back this time? How has he not been provoked into another meltdown/absence yet?

Man, the Planet's really gone to shit since that Phil guy left.

Its the playoffs, I'm in the local area now, and I'm here to talk football. Let's leave it at that.
KCJ