How Many QOTF players have we had? [Archive]

Luke

01-09-2007, 01:54 PM

Sure-Oz

01-09-2007, 01:56 PM

Matt Blundin, Pat Barnes are the only two on the rosters I can think of....

KCTitus

01-09-2007, 01:56 PM

I dont think any of KC's drafted QB's have panned out and that's a result of the curse of Carl drafting Todd Blackledge. It all started there.

CoMoChief

01-09-2007, 01:57 PM

Gannon, but he was old so I guess he doesn't count.

ChiefsCountry

01-09-2007, 02:03 PM

I dont think any of KC's drafted QB's have panned out and that's a result of the curse of Carl drafting Todd Blackledge. It all started there.

Carl wasn't gm at the time.

SPchief

01-09-2007, 02:03 PM

Carl wasn't gm at the time.

You sir, are wrong.

KCTitus

01-09-2007, 02:05 PM

Carl wasn't gm at the time.

One of these days...this legend will be just as strong as the DV drafted Phillips legend or that DV didnt want Faulk, etc.

One of these days. I'll keep plugging away at it.

ChiefsCountry

01-09-2007, 02:05 PM

You sir, are wrong.

No I'm not.

Brock

01-09-2007, 02:05 PM

Carl wasn't gm at the time.

lmao

SPchief

01-09-2007, 02:12 PM

One of these days...this legend will be just as strong as the DV drafted Phillips legend or that DV didnt want Faulk, etc.

One of these days. I'll keep plugging away at it.

Hey, I tried to help out

88TG88

01-09-2007, 02:13 PM

how many have we drafted ?

KCTitus

01-09-2007, 02:13 PM

Hey, I tried to help out

I cut the line too quick...Im rusty forgive me.

KCTitus

01-09-2007, 02:15 PM

how many have we drafted ?

Bludin, Vlasic, Stenstrom -- I dont have my draft db handy.

noa

01-09-2007, 02:16 PM

james killian

SPchief

01-09-2007, 02:17 PM

I cut the line too quick...Im rusty forgive me.

Its all good.

KCTitus

01-09-2007, 02:17 PM

and Blackledge

ChiefsCountry

01-09-2007, 02:18 PM

Peterson Era
Mike Elkins
Matt Blundin
Steve Matthews
Steve Stenstrom
Pat Barnes
James Killian
Brodie Croyle

SPchief

01-09-2007, 02:19 PM

Peterson Era
Todd Blackledge
Mike Elkins
Matt Blundin
Steve Matthews
Steve Stenstrom
Pat Barnes
James Killian
Brodie Croyle

FYP

DaneMcCloud

01-09-2007, 02:21 PM

Where does a QOTF gain experience, from holding a clipboard? Doesn't every team in the NFL have a roster space for back up QOTF's? If there is no chance of ever getting in a game, hell even redrums Mom can hold a clipboard.

Haven't we had QOTFs' before that never panned out, or never allowed to be feed to the dogs?
Just curious.

Do you know anything about football? Ever played? Not many rookie NFL QB's have been ready to play and win in the NFL. There's a HUGE difference in the complexities of offenses and defenses, not to mention the speed of the game. Just because a quarterback "holds the clipboard" during the game on Sunday doesn't take away from running the scout team, meetings, workouts and the offseason.

Look around the league. How many of the current starting QB's even played in their first year? Even Tom Brady didn't play in his first year.

KCJohnny

01-09-2007, 02:22 PM

The first great QB for the Chiefs was a backup who rode the pines for 5 years in Cleveland and Pittsburgh. Mr. Hunt and Hank Stram gave him a chance in the upstart AFL and he rewrote the passing record book. Once that precedent is established, its hard to change it. Look at the slew of vet QBs that have performed well here: Jaws, DeBerg, Montana, Gannon, etc... Grbac is the closest thing we've had to our own QBotF since Mike Livingston was here.

KCTitus

01-09-2007, 02:23 PM

Look around the league. How many of the current starting QB's even played in their first year? Even Tom Brady didn't play in his first year.

David Carr did...so did Vince Young, who is the NFL's greatest ever player to come out of college.

Otter

01-09-2007, 02:23 PM

how many have we drafted ?
I've been around since '90 and the only ones I remember in that time frame are Pat Barnes and Brodie Croyle.

Bah, QBs aren't that important anyway.

EDIT: How could I forget James Killian?!?!?! I must be losing my memory.

DaneMcCloud

01-09-2007, 02:23 PM

how many have we drafted ?

Peterson doesn't draft quarterbacks because his coaches don't want to take time to actually develop someone. I thought maybe Herm would be different, but who knows?...

KCTitus

01-09-2007, 02:24 PM

I've been around since '90 and the only one's I remember in that time frame are Pat Barnes and Brodie Croyle.

Bah, QBs aren't that important anyway.

right...defense wins championships anyway.

DaneMcCloud

01-09-2007, 02:25 PM

David Carr did...so did Vince Young, who is the NFL's greatest ever player to come out of college.

It was a rhetorical question. I know there are many QB's who played their first year but the scrapheap is larger than the successes.

Mecca

01-09-2007, 02:30 PM

I don't think we'll ever develop a QB with CP here.......we always trade for or sign some veteran when we need one.

DaneMcCloud

01-09-2007, 02:33 PM

Peterson Era
Mike Elkins
Matt Blundin
Steve Matthews
Steve Stenstrom
Pat Barnes
James Killian
Brodie Croyle

Does anyone look at that list and really think "QOTF"? Four of those guys were second day picks, Elkins & Blundin were Marty's picks because they reminded him of a young Bernie Kosar. Croyle has the most potential out of all of them (successful SEC collegiate career, big games, solid leader) but his injury history and frame leave him somewhat questionable.

If Croyle can develop into a successful backup QB (like Huard this year), I'd be pleased. Anything more and I'd be ecstatic.

Mr. Laz

01-09-2007, 02:38 PM

i heard someplace that no QB ever drafted under the current KC administartion has ever become a starter in the league.

i thought they also said hadn't "ever started a game" ... but i'm not sure.

Mecca

01-09-2007, 02:40 PM

i heard someplace that no QB ever drafted under the current KC administartion has ever become a starter in the league.

i thought they also said hadn't "ever started a game" ... but i'm not sure.

I think Steve Matthews started a couple games for Jacksonville.

ChiefsCountry

01-09-2007, 02:41 PM

i heard someplace that no QB ever drafted under the current KC administartion has ever become a starter in the league.

i thought they also said hadn't "ever started a game" ... but i'm not sure.

I beleive Stenstrom started a game or two with Bears and maybe Matthews did with Jags, let me look it up.

DaneMcCloud

01-09-2007, 02:43 PM

Yeah, Stenstrom started for the Bears and Matthews started for Jags.

Does everyone remember the mess Carl made with Stentsrom (drafting and signing him, only to have Chicago pick him up on waivers?). I don't think the guy ever even put on a Chiefs uni.

ChiefsCountry

01-09-2007, 02:43 PM

Matthews started one game it looks like, 1997 vs. Giants.

ChiefsCountry

01-09-2007, 02:44 PM

Redrum_69

01-09-2007, 02:45 PM

BLACKLEDGE!!!

THE BST QB EVAR@!@!@

FAX

01-09-2007, 02:46 PM

That's an amazing record of QB draft and development right there. I don't care who you are.

Before the FO writes up their next hatchet job on Trent, they should cover this story.

FAX

Mr. Laz

01-09-2007, 02:46 PM

Matthews started one game it looks like, 1997 vs. Giants.
cool ... maybe they were wrong or maybe i just heard wrong. :shrug:

has one ever BEEN the starting quarterback ... not just a sub etc?

ChiefsCountry

01-09-2007, 02:47 PM

has one ever BEEN the starting quarterback ... not just a sub etc?

That would be a no. Of course only 3 have been selected in the first 3 rounds.

Mecca

01-09-2007, 02:49 PM

Our QB drafting record is about as good as our WR one....

Redrum_69

01-09-2007, 02:50 PM

STEVE BONO WAS OUR BEST SHOT AT A SUPERBOWL!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Mr. Laz

01-09-2007, 02:51 PM

That would be a no. Of course only 3 have been selected in the first 3 rounds.
WoW ... isn't it rather peculiar that almost everyone you hear talk about "building a super bowl team" says you start with the quarterback and yet we've only drafted 3 on the first day of the draft.

:hmmm:

Frankie

01-09-2007, 02:52 PM

Matt Blundin, Pat Barnes are the only two on the rosters I can think of....
David Jaynes was supposed to be the future when Dawson was done.

ChiefsCountry

01-09-2007, 02:52 PM

Lets look at Running Backs in the Peterson era
Bryan Tobey
Todd McNair
Bill Jones
Michael Owens
Ernest Thompson
Harvey Williams
Darius Turner
Greg Hill
Donnell Bennett
Anthony Diagle
June Henley
Rashaan Shehee
Ernest Blackwell
Mike Cloud
Frank Moreau
Omar Easy
Larry Johnson

Mecca

01-09-2007, 02:54 PM

If you do that with every single position all the lists are going to look like that.....we have far more bad picks than good picks.

Redrum_69

01-09-2007, 02:56 PM

Mike Cloud went on to get a ring though...

ChiefsCountry

01-09-2007, 03:01 PM

If you do that with every single position all the lists are going to look like that.....we have far more bad picks than good picks.

Actually the offensive line picks have been pretty good. Alot of starters, even if not for the Chiefs.

ChiefsCountry

01-09-2007, 03:06 PM

Offensive Line
Tim Grunhard
Derrick Graham
Dave Szott
Joe Valerio
Jim Jennings
Jay Leeuwenburg
Jerry Ostroski
Lindsay Knapp
Trezelle Jenkins
Ben Lynch
Jeff Smith
Nate Parks
Victor Riley
Eric King
Darnell Alford
Alex Sulfsted
Brett Williams
Kevin Sampson
Will Svitek
Jeremy Parquett

Mosbonian

01-09-2007, 03:07 PM

QBOTF...seems everyone has forgotten Ted White.

mmaddog
*******

KCJohnny

01-09-2007, 03:18 PM

How did the chiefs acquire Bill Kenney?

ChiefsCountry

01-09-2007, 03:25 PM

How did the chiefs acquire Bill Kenney?

Free Agent from Miami.

MahiMike

01-09-2007, 03:30 PM

What's the big deal in wanting a home-grown QB? I don't want to pay a guy to learn while the rest of the team plays their butts off around him. Give me a QBOTY (QB of the Year) for just 1 year. Never, ever draft a QB. Way too much of a gamble. Much better to pick up a veteran at a budget price (Kitna, Garcia, etc.)