Which attributes of Wrestling do you most enjoy.

[Phobia]

Feel free to select all that apply.

[Buck]

Getting Drunk and watching it. Is that an attribute? Oh, and Broken Arms/Legs

[KurtCobain]

Burning the ref.

[Phobia]

Crap - was supposed to be public and multiple choice. I feel like body-slamming somebody now.

[Hammock Parties]

I've never watched a wrestling match. It's stupid.

[Phobia]

I've never watched a wrestling match. It's stupid.

Dude, you're wrestling's target demographic - mid-20's virgins living in Mom's basement. Get on the ball, Bobba Fett.

[el borracho]

I think I am most impressed by their ability to do this crap every week. Seriously, what kind of magician's trick allows one to be piledriven repeatedly, be thrown 10 feet out of the ring on top of a table, be smacked across the back with a metal folding chair and still wrestle the next week. I realize the matches aren't real and that the wrestlers are not really trying to hurt one another but, still... some of that stuff has to hurt.

[|Zach|]

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[BigRock]

Feel free to select all that apply.
You've obviously missed this thread:

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=154660

[Boris The Great]

The talk about moms basement and the trailer park is so 1980s. In a month or so, the WWEs annual Wrestlemania show is going to be at Ford Field in Detroit where the last Super Bowl was. Sold out, 80,000 people, with ticket prices starting at just under 1000 bucks a pop. Live in the now.

[Smed1065]

The talk about moms basement and the trailer park is so 1980s. In a month or so, the WWEs annual Wrestlemania show is going to be at Ford Field in Detroit where the last Super Bowl was. Sold out, 80,000 people, with ticket prices starting at just under 1000 bucks a pop. Live in the now.

I believe the moms basement still applies in context here.

If I knew that much about wrestling, I would want to live in the "real" world. IMHO.

Especially if it cost a $1000 dollars a pop with the outcome determined before you pay.

Hope you enjoy the show.

I thought the $500 for the indy game I spent was bad, now I feel better..........

Live in the real world.

[Jenson71]

Hey you're from Iowa. That's not wrestling.

[Reaper16]

It's a show -- entertainment -- and [nearly] everyone who watches it knows that. It combines athletic competition elements with the characters and plots and such from the theater or television, etc.

Plenty of people enjoy the combination of elements, apparently.

[morphius]

Burning the ref.
It is nice that the NBA has a training ground for their refs.

[Rooster]

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ROFL ROFL GoChiefs at a star wars convention in about ten years.

[burt]

Hey you're from Iowa. That's not wrestling.

Thank God....I am not the ONLY one to realize that WWE etc. is NOT wrestling. It's GREAT athletes, putting on a scripted play.

[Phobia]

It's a show -- entertainment -- and [nearly] everyone who watches it knows that. It combines athletic competition elements with the characters and plots and such from the theater or television, etc.

Plenty of people enjoy the combination of elements, apparently.

Awesome. I'm still looking for the "it's not fake" type of fan.

[Reaper16]

Awesome. I'm still looking for the "it's not fake" type of fan.
I'd love to run into one, too. I'd have a field day with him.

[Redrum_69]

Wheres the Women of Wrestling option...

Remember Elizabeth...randy the macho man savage's manager....she was the first hottie


Trish Stratus...where the hell is that option at

[crazycoffey]

NO GAZ OPTION

I call mis-deal

[Bob Dole]

Crap - was supposed to be public and multiple choice. I feel like body-slamming somebody now.

You suck at teh interweb.

[vailpass]

The talk about moms basement and the trailer park is so 1980s. In a month or so, the WWEs annual Wrestlemania show is going to be at Ford Field in Detroit where the last Super Bowl was. Sold out, 80,000 people, with ticket prices starting at just under 1000 bucks a pop. Live in the now.

1) That only proves there are 80,000 pieces of white trash who made the hitchhike from trailer park to stadium.

2) "ticket prices starting at just under 1000 bucks a pop." Really? Unless you have proof to the contrary I'm calling bullshit on this one.
Even if it was this expensive it doesn't change a thing: pouring syrup on shit does not make it pancakes.

3)The reference to GoChiefs living in his mom's basement is not, in fact, a thing of the '80's but a thing of today. n00b.

[Phobia]

The talk about moms basement and the trailer park is so 1980s. In a month or so, the WWEs annual Wrestlemania show is going to be at Ford Field in Detroit where the last Super Bowl was. Sold out, 80,000 people, with ticket prices starting at just under 1000 bucks a pop. Live in the now.

I'm guessing the parking lots surrounding Ford Field will become one giant meth lab that day. I honestly don't understand how anybody can enjoy spectatorship of oily roided up men embracing one another and dancing around in a ring for 20 minutes. It's absolutely baffling.

[Brock]

1) 2) "ticket prices starting at just under 1000 bucks a pop." Really? Unless you have proof to the contrary I'm calling bullshit on this one.

According to ticketmaster, the highest price tickets are 750. That's probably only the first 5 rows or so.

[Redrum_69]

Wheres the option for...


Tag Teaming Brooke Hogan...while wearing a boa and yellow tights at??

[vailpass]

According to ticketmaster, the highest price tickets are 750. That's probably only the first 5 rows or so.

Yeah, that sounds more like it. Thanks.
The day fake wrestling commands ticket $$ comparable to the biggest corporate love-fest in the U.S. (superbowl) will be a strange day indeed.

[Saulbadguy]

Big titted skanky looking women.

[StcChief]

The jello wrestling in movie STRIPES

[eazyb81]

I honestly don't understand how anybody can enjoy spectatorship of oily roided up men embracing one another and dancing around in a ring for 20 minutes. It's absolutely baffling.

To be fair, an outsider could easily point at you and wonder why you enjoy watching large men run and tackle each other on a field for 60 minutes.

[Phobia]

To be fair, an outsider could easily point at you and wonder why you enjoy watching large men run and tackle each other on a field for 60 minutes.

Now that you mention it, my football fandom is pretty ridiculous. I really need a new hobby.

[Mr. Laz]

the bra and panty chick fights

[HemiEd]

I'd love to run into one, too. I'd have a field day with him.

My Grandmother (R.I.P.) was one of them. I remember walking through the house, noticed her watching it. I blurted out that the stuff was fake and OMG, she vehemently defended the crap.

[CoMoChief]

Kemper Arena and safety harnesses.




Sorry that was a terrible sickening joke. I was acutally 30ft away from where Hart fell. Kinda weird really.

Wrestling was awesome in the late 90's and turn of the century. After Rock and Austin left wrestling just went to shit. The stars they have now are just horrible and you couldnt pay me to go to an event now and I think everyone is tired of seeing HHH winning all the time. I used to go to RAW in KC and STL everytime they came into town. There's just no star power anymore and probably wont be for a long time. UFC is getting more and more publicity by the day and IMO will become larger than the wrestling venue.

[listopencil]

C'mon. Lighten up. It's a modern day traveling circus. It's the freak show in all its glory. It's a a soap opera for guys. It's goofy fun that will make you chuckle...if you don't make the mistake of taking it too seriously.



Do you get pissed when you go see a movie because it was scripted? Are you annoyed that most television shows have been pre-recorded and that the end is as certain as death and taxes? Are you still mystified by the clown car and do you feel the need to denounce it as impossible to the others at your local circus?


Relax and let a little goofiness into your life. It won't hurt. I promise.

[Phobia]

I presume that diatribe was typed for my benefit?

You do know who you're talking to, right?

A little goofiness has long permeated every fiber of my being. I don't need wrestling (nor the globetrotters) to help me relax.

[dirk digler]

I used to like wrestling back in the day when Hogan, Savage, Andre the Giant, Iron Sheik wrestled. Those were the "glory days" of wrestling and I loved watching them.

Today not so much but I did enjoy watching the Rock and Austin when they were around. Today the only real star the WWE has is HHH at least on RAW.

[Saulbadguy]

I admit I watched it religiously when WCW was at its prime, especially during the height of the "NWO" campaign. I would never miss Nitro or Thunder, and i'd occasionaly flip to RAW.

IMO it went downhill with the "Stone Cold Steve Austin" shit. It was no longer the good guys vs the bad guys, it was the bad guys vs "the man", the man being Vince McMahon and the administration. WWF(E) started resorting to shock value for entertainment all the while whipping out ridiculous story lines that only children or very low brow retards would appreciate. WCW had to compete, so it catered to redneck morons as well, and that is when I stopped watching. When Bret Hart retired, I stopped watching all together.

The style turned me off as well. There used to be ring technicians who would make you believe what was going on, now it is all about camera presence, make up, coconut oil, and who can stomp the loudest on the ground to make the punches sound "real". It is no longer wrestling, it is just punching and kicking with the occasional arm-bar clothesline. No more submission moves, no more lucha libres, just a bunch of roided up wannabe actors.

[Ultra Peanut]

<------- THIS GUY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8T050N6yx8M)

Also, Ring of Honor is pretty rad.

Jay Lethal vs. Curry Man (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2054027853598719415&q=lethal+curry)
Samoa Joe in a comedy match vs. Delirious, Jack Evans, and EBESSAN (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2868434211634381317&q=samoa+joe+ebessan)
Low-Ki vs. KENTA (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6351570473130326613&q=low-ki+kenta)
Delirious cuts an amazing promo on the greatest wrestler in the world, Bryan Danielson (http://video.google.com/url?vidurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DYOGnnKjkJdk&docid=6981045188691240409&ev=v&esrc=sr1&usg=AL29H21KkCI6YlSJ1yCVWIQPH4WOGP0dQw)
Joe and Danielson vs. KENTA and Marufuji (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4400058647570212273&q=samoa+joe+danielson)

[BigRock]

Yeah, that sounds more like it. Thanks.
The day fake wrestling commands ticket $$ comparable to the biggest corporate love-fest in the U.S. (superbowl) will be a strange day indeed.
$750 for a ticket is not that far off from "just under 1000". I'm just saying.

[CoMoChief]

Last wrestling match I ever saw (the whole thing) was The Rock vs. Hogan.

My 2 all time favorite wrestlers competing at Wrestlemania. I didn't even care who won, I was just shocked because I never thought I'd ever see that match.

I remember the event titled "Icon vs. Icon" lol.

[Mecca]

I admit I watched it religiously when WCW was at its prime, especially during the height of the "NWO" campaign. I would never miss Nitro or Thunder, and i'd occasionaly flip to RAW.

IMO it went downhill with the "Stone Cold Steve Austin" shit. It was no longer the good guys vs the bad guys, it was the bad guys vs "the man", the man being Vince McMahon and the administration. WWF(E) started resorting to shock value for entertainment all the while whipping out ridiculous story lines that only children or very low brow retards would appreciate. WCW had to compete, so it catered to redneck morons as well, and that is when I stopped watching. When Bret Hart retired, I stopped watching all together.

The style turned me off as well. There used to be ring technicians who would make you believe what was going on, now it is all about camera presence, make up, coconut oil, and who can stomp the loudest on the ground to make the punches sound "real". It is no longer wrestling, it is just punching and kicking with the occasional arm-bar clothesline. No more submission moves, no more lucha libres, just a bunch of roided up wannabe actors.

WCW lost out in the end because of stupid petty infighting and their managements allegiance to guys like Hogan and Kevin Nash....Eventually all of their talented wrestlers took off to the WWF and they were screwed, screwed well before they went to really stupid storylines.

Steve Austin almost single handedly started the mainstream wrestling boom of that time, he in essense saved the WWF which had been getting creamed by WCW until he came around.

[Mecca]

<------- THIS GUY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8T050N6yx8M)

Also, Ring of Honor is pretty rad.

Jay Lethal vs. Curry Man (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2054027853598719415&q=lethal+curry)
Samoa Joe in a comedy match vs. Delirious, Jack Evans, and EBESSAN (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2868434211634381317&q=samoa+joe+ebessan)
Low-Ki vs. KENTA (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6351570473130326613&q=low-ki+kenta)
Delirious cuts an amazing promo on the greatest wrestler in the world, Bryan Danielson (http://video.google.com/url?vidurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DYOGnnKjkJdk&docid=6981045188691240409&ev=v&esrc=sr1&usg=AL29H21KkCI6YlSJ1yCVWIQPH4WOGP0dQw)
Joe and Danielson vs. KENTA and Marufuji (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4400058647570212273&q=samoa+joe+danielson)

You are probably already aware.......but Tornado's gonna be on WSX.

[Saulbadguy]

WCW lost out in the end because of stupid petty infighting and their managements allegiance to guys like Hogan and Kevin Nash....Eventually all of their talented wrestlers took off to the WWF and they were screwed, screwed well before they went to really stupid storylines.

Steve Austin almost single handedly started the mainstream wrestling boom of that time, he in essense saved the WWF which had been getting creamed by WCW until he came around.
No shit. In turn, he ruined it.

[Mecca]

No shit. In turn, he ruined it.

I wouldn't really say he ruined it. There are peaks and valleys in wrestling, before the NWO took off in 96-97 wrestling in general had been bad been for several years. They'll continue to try to latch onto what caused the last boom till they find the new niche. Vince tried to hold onto the 80's boom forever until eventually they changed.

They just simply don't have the same sort of roster they once had or the overall talented guys. Guys like Rock and Austin are once in a life time performers and they're gone now.

Everything that was the attitude era the late 90s early 2000's peaked in 2001 at Wrestlemania 17 which is one of the greatest wrestling shows ever done.

So after that there is going to be years of downswing and staleness it's the nature of the business.

[Hammock Parties]

To be fair, an outsider could easily point at you and wonder why you enjoy watching large men run and tackle each other on a field for 60 minutes.

Because it's real.

[Mecca]

Because it's real.

So do you not enjoy CSI because it's fake......

[Hammock Parties]

So do you not enjoy CSI because it's fake......

I don't watch CSI.

[Extra Point]

I enjoy the Rufus R. Jones, Bob Geigel, Handsome Harley Rack, and the Baron von Raushke attributes most.

[Extra Point]

Not to leave out Danny Little Bear, Andre the Giant, either.

[Phobia]

So do you not enjoy CSI because it's fake......

CSI is not fake.

[Mecca]

I don't watch CSI.

As long as you get the point I was making.....

[Extra Point]

Remember the twin ladies from "Championship Wrestling?" They made that show!

[Phobia]

I don't. Which point were you making? Comparing CSI and wrestling is akin to comparing Brad Pitt to you. One is a highly successful world famous superstar and one is a dork with a mullet.

[Hammock Parties]

Look, wrestling is stupid. It's one of the lowest forms of entertainment out there. It's on par with cockfighting, except that in cockfighting there's more drama.

[Mecca]

I don't. Which point were you making? Comparing CSI and wrestling is akin to comparing Brad Pitt to you. One is a highly successful world famous superstar and one is a dork with a mullet.

I enjoy the baiting tactic......only a complete fool could miss that point.

[Mecca]

Look, wrestling is stupid. It's one of the lowest forms of entertainment out there. It's on par with cockfighting, except that in cockfighting there's more drama.

So low that it's been around since the early 1900's........and that the guys working for the WWE are making atleast 100 grand a year....

[Hammock Parties]

So low that it's been around since the early 1900's........and that the guys working for the WWE are making atleast 100 grand a year....

Doesn't make any difference. It's still ****ing stupid.

[Mecca]

Doesn't make any difference. It's still ****ing stupid.

Well I think Nascar is ****ing stupid but someone is out there watching that.......

[Hammock Parties]

Well I think Nascar is ****ing stupid but someone is out there watching that.......

There you go. That's a perfect example. NASCAR and Wrestling go hand in hand. Although even I'll admit that Wrestling is more entertaining.

[Mecca]

There you go. That's a perfect example. NASCAR and Wrestling go hand in hand. Although even I'll admit that Wrestling is more entertaining.

Are you saying that I'm some strange minority because I like wrestling and hate Nascar?

[Phobia]

There's more drama in Nascar too.

[Hammock Parties]

Are you saying that I'm some strange minority because I like wrestling and hate Nascar?

Definitely. It's no coincidence that you have an awful beard and a shaggy, unattractive mane. Search your feelings, Mecca, you know you want to wear this hat.

http://img95.imageshack.us/img95/7043/0078131752847215x2158pk.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[Buck]

How the **** is this thread still going?

[Phobia]

How the **** is this thread still going?
I have no idea. Evidently there's a lot of wrestling dorks who want to come out of the closet.

[Mecca]

Definitely. It's no coincidence that you have an awful beard and a shaggy, unattractive mane. Search your feelings, Mecca, you know you want to wear this hat.

http://img95.imageshack.us/img95/7043/0078131752847215x2158pk.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

**** that.........

[Swanman]

WWE sucks 8 kinds of ass right now, but Ring of Honor is still great stuff. There's a new show coming up on MTV called Wrestling Society X that has a lot of ROH guys on the roster.

[Extra Point]

But who can forget the Rufus R. Jones Headbutt?

When he'd come back to life after a pile driver?

As kids, we'd live off that stuff!

.....The "Iron Claw!"

It just ain't the same!

[Mecca]

But who can forget the Rufus R. Jones Headbutt?

When he'd come back to life after a pile driver?

As kids, we'd live off that stuff!

.....The "Iron Claw!"

It just ain't the same!

Guys do better stuff than that now.......the athletic talent of wrestlers in general has come a long way.

[Boris The Great]

3)The reference to GoChiefs living in his moms basement is not, in fact, a thing of the 80s but a thing of today. n00b.
The 80s reference in question was that guys living in their basement were wrestlings target audience, not anything about GoChiefs specifically. Try to keep up.

[Rain Man]

Has anyone mentioned the naked oiled-up female aspect of it yet?

[Dave Lane]

This is the dumbest thread in history. Where is the I can't believe anyone watches this crap option? And no Gaz option? Phil I think you've reverted to a n00b :)

Dave

[Boris The Great]

Here is an interesting question for a poll. Which would be dumber, not knowing that pro wrestling is fake, or letting yourself get hosed by Nick Athan because you\'re one of the only people on earth who cant see what a fraud he is? Phobia and GoChiefs, be sure to vote. LMAO

[Hammock Parties]

This is the dumbest thread in history. Where is the I can't believe anyone watches this crap option? And no Gaz option? Phil I think you've reverted to a n00b :)

Dave

Dave Lane continues to prove himself as one of the smartest planeteers.

[Hammock Parties]

Which would be dumber, not knowing that pro wrestling is fake, or letting yourself get hosed by Nick "The Erroneous One" Athan because you\'re one of the only people on earth who cant see what a fraud he is?

I haven't been hosed by Nick.

[BigRock]

Has anyone mentioned the naked oiled-up female aspect of it yet?
I tried, but the detractors keep wanting to bring it back to the issue of sweaty muscular guys in tights. Not that I'm drawing any conclusions, fellows. Don't ask, don't tell.

[Phobia]

Here is an interesting question for a poll. Which would be dumber, not knowing that pro wrestling is fake, or letting yourself get hosed by Nick "The Erroneous One" Athan because you\'re one of the only people on earth who cant see what a fraud he is? Phobia and GoChiefs, be sure to vote. LMAO

That hurts me deeply. In fact I'm tempted to give you a rep pile-driver.

There's 6 years of documentation on this site that I'm a moron - no surprise there.

But wrestling is still dumber.

[Phobia]

This is the dumbest thread in history. Where is the I can't believe anyone watches this crap option? And no Gaz option? Phil I think you've reverted to a n00b :)

Dave
It was designed in about 3 minutes and aimed at ruining Mecca's night. I had no idea it would grow legs.

[Phobia]

I haven't been hosed by Nick.
When was your last payday?

[Extra Point]

Guys do better stuff than that now.......the athletic talent of wrestlers in general has come a long way.

So have steroids.

[Mecca]

So have steroids.

Steroids don't enable you to do lucha style.......

[Phobia]

I still don't understand the athletic talent argument. How much athletic prowess does it take to execute a rehearsed and choreographed throw move with a sweaty male partner? By that argument, I'll bet you're really impressed by cheerleader pyramids.

[Extra Point]

I just like round mat wrestling. That's the real deal.

[Mecca]

I still don't understand the athletic talent argument. How much athletic prowess does it take to execute a rehearsed and choreographed throw move with a sweaty male partner? By that argument, I'll bet you're really impressed by cheerleader pyramids.

Ok......I'll find a video of a guy do atheletic things in a wrestling ring tell me if you could do it....

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I hate the song but the video proves the point.

[Phobia]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

I watched about 60 seconds of that stuff before I was forced to turn it off.

Can I fall out of bed doing those things? Absolutely not. But with the same repetitions and rehearsals they have, I'm certain I could - even at my age. A backflip isn't really all that impressive - especially on a mat.

[Phobia]

Now here's some athletes!

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[Mecca]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

I watched about 60 seconds of that stuff before I was forced to turn it off.

Can I fall out of bed doing those things? Absolutely not. But with the same repetitions and rehearsals they have, I'm certain I could - even at my age. A backflip isn't really all that impressive - especially on a mat.

If you really think you can do what AJ Styles does just with practice you're retarded. That would be like saying any scrub could be taught to be a great dancer with practice, either you have it or you don't and it does take talent.

That's still hilarious there are people in the business that can't do what AJ Styles does and you untrained Joe Schmoe thinks with a little practice he can........you should train up then cause he's netting about 200 grand a year.

[dirk digler]

How much athletic prowess does it take to execute a rehearsed and choreographed throw move with a sweaty male partner?

I don't know let's ask Pink. :)

[Phobia]

Backflips dont make you an athlete, FWIW. Neither do steroids. I guess I'm just not as easily impressed as you are.

[dirk digler]

Wrestling is entertainment, nothing more nothing less.

[Mecca]

Backflips dont make you an athlete, FWIW. Neither do steroids. I guess I'm just not as easily impressed as you are.

I have nothing against you or anyone else disliking wrestling....I however do have a problem with you acting like they possess no talent. He was doing much more than just backflips....

To make a post that with a little training you could be as good as a pretty well known highly skilled wrestler is assinine. He's better than 90% of the guys in wrestling and you honestly think you could do that?

[Iowanian]

My favorite part is where the Local kid from Iowa beats the Iranian Frankenstein for the Gold Medal in the Olympics.

Or down at a local Jr High meet or at in a small gymnasium on a saturday afternoon at a 18 team HS tourn.

[Brock]

If you really think you can do what AJ Styles does just with practice you're retarded. That would be like saying any scrub could be taught to be a great dancer with practice, either you have it or you don't and it does take talent.

That's still hilarious there are people in the business that can't do what AJ Styles does and you untrained Joe Schmoe thinks with a little practice he can........you should train up then cause he's netting about 200 grand a year.

He'll be dead at 45 just like all the rest of them.

[Rain Man]

I wonder if a real fight has ever broken out during a wrestling match. Maybe one guy hit another and didn't get his punch pulled, and the other guy got mad.

[Brock]

I wonder if a real fight has ever broken out during a wrestling match. Maybe one guy hit another and didn't get his punch pulled, and the other guy got mad.

That's when the purses start swinging.

[Phobia]

I have nothing against you or anyone else disliking wrestling....I however do have a problem with you acting like they possess no talent. He was doing much more than just backflips....

To make a post that with a little training you could be as good as a pretty well known highly skilled wrestler is assinine. He's better than 90% of the guys in wrestling and you honestly think you could do that?

Well, I didn't say anything about that dude. I don't even know who he is. I also didn't specify "a little training". I think I said something about equal reps and rehearsal. I'm nothing special, but I have some athletic ability of my own.

[Ultra Peanut]

More fun rasslin' stuff:

Shane-O Mac is a golden god (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2l8iAKfTYwM) (SO FAKE HURRRRRR)
Bryan Danielson "toying dickishly" with a lower-carder (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bh6EW1Wy_YA)
Good ol' JR raps! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fgpa6hjlUbY&feature=PlayList&p=010B999E87BE0F88&index=16)
Ultimate Warrior is Insane (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P39b7v1wzfg&feature=PlayList&p=010B999E87BE0F88&index=0)
Jericho, Man of 1004 Holds (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3XnrJ26hQc)

You are probably already aware.......but Tornado's gonna be on WSX.**** yes.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-rjTBPmi2S0&feature=PlayList&p=010B999E87BE0F88&index=12

1) 2) "ticket prices starting at just under 1000 bucks a pop." Really? Unless you have proof to the contrary I'm calling bullshit on this one.
Maybe this (http://youtube.com/watch?v=Xtek5ygvKJI) will help you understand the deal with ticket prices. Damn scalpers. :mad:

[Mecca]

Well, I didn't say anything about that dude. I don't even know who he is. I also didn't specify "a little training". I think I said something about equal reps and rehearsal. I'm nothing special, but I have some athletic ability of my own.

He's been wrestling since 97-98.....The point was even with equal thinking you'd be close to him is thinking alot. He is one of the premier guys as far as ring performance.

[Reaper16]

That Ultimate Warrior promo doc was awesome. ROFL

[Ultra Peanut]

I still don't understand the athletic talent argument. How much athletic prowess does it take to execute a rehearsed and choreographed throw move with a sweaty male partner? Yeah. You're totally right. This (http://youtube.com/watch?v=9Q9Anp4w_iE) stuff is cake (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-504T0J3qf4).

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I wonder if a real fight has ever broken out during a wrestling match. Maybe one guy hit another and didn't get his punch pulled, and the other guy got mad.Never EVER piss off New Jack (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HetX1A-x93o).

[Phobia]

Well, obviously it's silly to belabor the point because I don't even like watching the stuff, I'm certainly not going to be participating.

[Mecca]

The best part of that New Jack video "look at all those poeple dressed up like chairs" everytime I see that I bust up laughing.

[Ultra Peanut]

The best part of that New Jack video "look at all those poeple dressed up like chairs" everytime I see that I bust up laughing.New Jack is equal parts hilarious and batshit crazy.

[Reaper16]

New Jack is equal parts hilarious and batshit crazy.
Muddafugga's forehead was all cut up to shit. Man, he's been bled a whole bunch.

[eazyb81]

Anyone see that video of New Jack beating the shit out of that 70 year old wrestler? The fans were so pissed, they starting throwing out the N word at him....I need to find that vid.

[eazyb81]

Here we go:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4kSX8IT87jw

Here's the actual match:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6fK5yziG3o

[Mecca]

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['Hamas' Jenkins]

I'd post the Mass Transit incident, if necessary. IIRC, New Jack now has brain damage from a spot gone wrong or someone who stiffed the shit out of him about 5 years back.

[Swanman]

I'd post the Mass Transit incident, if necessary. IIRC, New Jack now has brain damage from a spot gone wrong or someone who stiffed the shit out of him about 5 years back.

No thanks, I've never seen that video and really don't have a desire to. I heard the poor fat kid was literally spouting blood from his forehead. New Jack was definitely a guilty pleasure wrestler. He didn't do any moves but was still very fun to watch, with all the shit he'd bring to the ring and the insane dives from the crow's nest at the ECW Arena.

For those that still think pro wrestling takes no talent, sit back and enjoy highlights of possibly the best match of 2006, the Dragon Gate 6-Man from SuperCard of Honor from ROH. ROH put on three shows Wrestlemania weekend in Chicago and blew WWE out of the water with the quality.

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[Pitt Gorilla]

I don't. Which point were you making? Comparing CSI and wrestling is akin to comparing Brad Pitt to you. One is a highly successful world famous superstar and one is a dork with a mullet.I almost spit soda, literally.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

For those that still think pro wrestling takes no talent, sit back and enjoy highlights of possibly the best match of 2006, the Dragon Gate 6-Man from SuperCard of Honor from ROH. ROH put on three shows Wrestlemania weekend in Chicago and blew WWE out of the water with the quality.

Which is why that crowd was so hostile...

[Saulbadguy]

I remember when WWF had that "shoot" tournament. I forget what it was called, but it was basically the league that "Butterbean" fought in. Boxing and whatnot. Anyways, the winner of the tournament got to fight Butterbean. It lasted quite a few weeks and finally a wrestler won it, and got knocked the F out in under 15 seconds by Butterbean. They never did that again - keep it choreographed.

[Brock]

I remember when WWF had that "shoot" tournament. I forget what it was called, but it was basically the league that "Butterbean" fought in. Boxing and whatnot. Anyways, the winner of the tournament got to fight Butterbean. It lasted quite a few weeks and finally a wrestler won it, and got knocked the F out in under 15 seconds by Butterbean. They never did that again - keep it choreographed.

It was called "Brawl for All". A sterling idea for sure.

[Sully]

Here's the next poll...

If you love wrestling, do you also love Olympic Gymnastics?

-and-

If not, what makes wrestling different? The outfits? The oil (oh so, so much oily oil)? The microphones under the "mat" to make it sound so much meaner?

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Here's the next poll...

If you love wrestling, do you also love Olympic Gymnastics?

-and-

If not, what makes wrestling different? The outfits? The oil (oh so, so much oily oil)? The microphones under the "mat" to make it sound so much meaner?

Dude, take a bump on those mats sometime and then talk about how easy it is.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

I remember when WWF had that "shoot" tournament. I forget what it was called, but it was basically the league that "Butterbean" fought in. Boxing and whatnot. Anyways, the winner of the tournament got to fight Butterbean. It lasted quite a few weeks and finally a wrestler won it, and got knocked the F out in under 15 seconds by Butterbean. They never did that again - keep it choreographed.

There have been plenty of shoots over the years...

[Saulbadguy]

It was called "Brawl for All". A sterling idea for sure.
Ah yes. That was hilarious. They wouldn't even talk about it after that happened.

[Brock]

Ah yes. That was hilarious. They wouldn't even talk about it after that happened.

They tried to use it to build up "Dr. Death" Steve Williams as a legitimate badass. He got knocked the F out by some nobody.

The legit tough guys aren't the stars.

[Swanman]

Ah yes. That was hilarious. They wouldn't even talk about it after that happened.

They wanted to do a pure shoot tournament but were definitely hoping for certain guys to win/lose. When Bart Gunn (not even near the middle of the card) beat Bradshaw (certified tough guy), they about shit their pants because that's the last thing they wanted to happen. Then Butterbean knocked Gunn silly in like 10 seconds at Wrestlemania.

The best "shoot" moment I've seen recently was in the Mick Foley/Edge feud before Wrestlemania last year. During an interview segment on Raw, Edge punched Foley and he bled all over the place. The one unique thing about it was that Foley wanted it to be completely authentic (no blade job) so he ordered Edge to punch him for real over the eye and the result was perfect. It opened up a huge gash immediately.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

They tried to use it to build up "Dr. Death" Steve Williams as a legitimate badass. He got knocked the F out by some nobody.

The legit tough guys aren't the stars.

It was Bart Gunn. Dr. Death was a character from the 80's mostly in Mid-South Wrestling, IIRC. There's a good interview on youtube of Ted Dibiase in his pre-Million Dollar Man days giving a promo about the heartache he felt after watching the Freebirds spike piledrive Dr. Death's bitch ass onto a concrete floor. ROFL

[Phobia]

I get that the rest of you freaks are wrestling dorks but the so-called intellectual 'Hamas' is highly disappointing.

This is highly embarrassing. What if somebody sees me talking to you people?

[Mecca]

Here's the next poll...

If you love wrestling, do you also love Olympic Gymnastics?

-and-

If not, what makes wrestling different? The outfits? The oil (oh so, so much oily oil)? The microphones under the "mat" to make it sound so much meaner?

Back bumping isn't exactly comfortable.......I'm sure the guys that have numerous injuries and surgeries to being wrestlers would love to be thought of as nothing more than oiled up gymnists....

How about Kurt Angle do you think he's just some oiled up guy with no talent?

[Extra Point]

Remember when Ali got into in the ring with a wrestler? That was low, pretty low.

[Phobia]

Back bumping isn't exactly comfortable.......I'm sure the guys that have numerous injuries and surgeries to being wrestlers would love to be thought of as nothing more than oiled up gymnists....

How about Kurt Angle do you think he's just some oiled up guy with no talent?

If wrestling is fake (which it is), what makes you think the injuries and surgeries aren't faked to "legitimize" the "action"?

[Mecca]

If wrestling is fake (which it is), what makes you think the injuries and surgeries aren't faked to "legitimize" the "action"?

I'm aware of which ones are fake and which ones are real......

Rey Mysterio wrestled on a torn ACL for 6 months.....Triple H ripped out his quad muscle....I'm sure anyone can be a wrestler and those injuries aren't anything.

[tk13]

I vote for Andy Kaufman.

[Swanman]

I'm aware of which ones are fake and which ones are real......

Rey Mysterio wrestled on a torn ACL for 6 months.....Triple H ripped out his quad muscle....I'm sure anyone can be a wrestler and those injuries aren't anything.

The injuries are usually real. When they fake an injury in a match/storyline, it's usually due to the fact that the guy needs to go under the knife for something and they are writing an injury into the story to get him offscreen when he has the surgery and rehabilitates. There have been numerous guys get neck fusion surgery because of all the spine-compressing moves they do. Most wrestlers work hurt most of their careers because wrestling may be "fake", but the hell they put their bodies through is most definitely real.

[HemiEd]

I get that the rest of you freaks are wrestling dorks but the so-called intellectual 'Hamas' is highly disappointing.

This is highly embarrassing. What if somebody sees me talking to you people?

Now I am with Phobia.

[Mecca]

There's alot more wrestling fans than you'd ever know.

[HemiEd]

There's alot more wrestling fans than you'd ever know.

I have always suspected that, kind of like soccer and hockey. 0 interest here in all of those.

Having watched and XFL game is as close as I have ever come to watching a Pro Wrestling match.

[Mecca]

WWE's revenue in fiscal 2006 (from May 2005 to April 2006) was approximately $400 million (US), with a net profit of approximately $47 million. As of August 2006, the company's market capitalization is over $1 billion (US). Its stock is traded on the NYSE as WWE

That should tell you how many people are watching and spending money on wrestling.

[Hammock Parties]

That should tell you how many people are watching and spending money on wrestling.

There are lots of stupid people in the world.

[Mecca]

There are lots of stupid people in the world.

I've been to wrestling events and football games.......generally there are more morons at football games......there are stupid people everywhere not just smart people are following the NFL.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

I get that the rest of you freaks are wrestling dorks but the so-called intellectual 'Hamas' is highly disappointing.

This is highly embarrassing. What if somebody sees me talking to you people?

In reality...how is a wrestling match any different than a piece of literature, or a movie? They are all texts, and they all tell stories.

The biggest difference is the fan base.

FWIW, this might be a good time to delineate the difference btw 'marks' and 'smarts' for the uninformed.

It's a guilty pleasure, but it's nothing to be embarrassed about.

[Halfcan]

I remember All Star Wrestling with Bull Dog Bob Brown, Chief Jay Strongbow, Superfly, Harley Race-now that was the shit.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Mecca,

If you have time and the inclination, I suggest you check out "Sex, Lies, and Headlocks". It's a bit of an uneven read, but a decent history of the business up until Vince bought out Turner.

[Mecca]

Mecca,

If you have time and the inclination, I suggest you check out "Sex, Lies, and Headlocks". It's a bit of an uneven read, but a decent history of the business up until Vince bought out Turner.

I've read that....along with most wrestling books even though most of them kinda suck.

And obviously I'm much more of a smark than a mark.

[Ultra Peanut]

Dude, take a bump on those mats sometime and then talk about how easy it is.The mat is made of sweet tarts, and the ropes are made of licorice!

If wrestling is fake (which it is), what makes you think the injuries and surgeries aren't faked to "legitimize" the "action"?THIS IS FAKE!!!!!!!

http://imgred.com/http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/24/Mercuryinjury.jpg

You act like the world of wrestling is shrouded in mystery, which is true only if you're paying no attention to it whatsoever. Paying no attention to it whatsoever is not a problem in the least, unless you like to make completely inaccurate claims about it. Then you just end up looking like a clueless blowhard.

We know Angle's injuries are real, not only because reliable sources reported on them but because WWE (A) released him because they were afraid he would die in the ring if he kept going at the rate he was going, and (B) had no storyline reasons whatsoever to fake them. We know Triple H really did blow out his quad because (A) it's happened before, and (B) sidelining one of the three most over (that's "popular") guys on the roster for 8-10 months while he's helping move an incredible amount of merchandise, for no reason whatsoever, goes well beyond WWE's admittedly huge realm of stupidity.

John Cena's "ruptured spleen" is a work, and we know it's a work. We're not three years old.

Nobody thinks the finishes are anything but predetermined. Nobody thinks these guys really hate each other (well, some do, but that's another issue entirely). We know they're not REALLY beating each other to within an inch of their lives (that is not to say, however, that it's "fake" in the sense that some moves don't hurt and some people don't get seriously injured; to suggest otherwise is completely ignorant).

I watch wrestling because... it's fun. That's why I watched Cheap Seats or Mystery Science Theater 3000. Sure, I knew they weren't REALLY coming up with all of those jokes on the fly, but it was still hilarious. I know Kiefer Sutherland's not ACTUALLY Superman, just like I know John Cena is not actually some superhuman douchebag who thinks he's a marine. That doesn't make it any less enjoyable, because it's, get this, entertainment. Just because you might not understand why it's entertaining to see Randy and Jason riff on Superjocks/Superdogs or Jack Bauer save LA from a nuke doesn't mean the people who enjoy those forms of entertainment are drooling retards. The characters and stories in wrestling, when done well, can be very involving; and when done poorly, they can be equally entertaining in a "What the Christ?!" kind of way.

For ****'s sake, you like to watch grown men run around playing a game and pretending they actually care about how much it means to the fans. Who are you to talk?

[Mecca]

You said work......75% of the board probably has no idea what the term work means to wrestling.

It's like this as was once said a long time ago. To those who believe no explantation is needed to those who don't no explanation is good enough

[Ultra Peanut]

Kevin Nash administers psychological testing (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y9l2WT_xK6w&feature=PlayList&p=554D1729BE329E91&index=26)

PCS Push-Up Challenge (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4i8-CylpzTY&feature=PlayList&p=554D1729BE329E91&index=23)

Lethal: "Why do I have to go first?"
Nash: "'Cause you're black."

PCS Limbo Challenge (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FM1mh3qf3Y4&NR)

[Mecca]

If you wanna check out something interesting.........here's Rob Van Dam on OTR, it's a Canadian sports show. He is not in character and he candidly discusses things.

Part 1

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Part 3

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[Jim Jones]

The bad perception wrestling gets is because of the fans. I took my girlfriend to a show once and it was nothing but fat, inbred, hick looking freaks - it was like a cross between the worst stereotype of wrestling fans and nascar fans that you can think of combined to the tenth power.

It totally made me realize why people make fun of wrestling, and why as a wrestling fan, I find myself hating most other wrestling fans - because more often than not, wrestling fans are all those dumb fat jackoffs who sit at home and bitch about "workrate" and all this other stupid shit. I mean just imagine a guy that looks like Patton Oswalt sitting at a computer screen writing a 1,000 word thesis on why Kurt Angle is overrated and some jap nobody's heard of has the best workrate in the world. It's quite pathetic when you think about it.

With that said, I love wrestling.

[Mecca]

The bad perception wrestling gets is because of the fans. I took my girlfriend to a show once and it was nothing but fat, inbred, hick looking freaks - it was like a cross between the worst stereotype of wrestling fans and nascar fans that you can think of combined to the tenth power.

It totally made me realize why people make fun of wrestling, and why as a wrestling fan, I find myself hating most other wrestling fans - because more often than not, wrestling fans are all those dumb fat jackoffs who sit at home and bitch about "workrate" and all this other stupid shit. I mean just imagine a guy that looks like Patton Oswalt sitting at a computer screen writing a 1,000 word thesis on why Kurt Angle is overrated and some jap nobody's heard of has the best workrate in the world. It's quite pathetic when you think about it.

With that said, I love wrestling.

I agree with pretty much all of that.......I've been to a ton of shows and well that is mostly true. Although going to a football game isn't really any better.......there's just alot of people out there like that in general.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

I agree with pretty much all of that.......I've been to a ton of shows and well that is mostly true. Although going to a football game isn't really any better.......there's just alot of people out there like that in general.

This is especially true of Chiefs games. I'd love to know how many more mullets per capita there are at a Chiefs game than at your average NFL stadium.

[Mecca]

This is especially true of Chiefs games. I'd love to know how many more mullets per capita there are at a Chiefs game than at your average NFL stadium.

Well I guess that all depends.......Phobia thinks I have a mullet....

[Ultra Peanut]

At this point, "mullet" seems to mean about as much as "emo."

[Reaper16]

Any one see the 'Taker v HBK final at the Royal Rumble last night?

When Undertaker won I was marking like a little bitch, like I was in 6th grade again.

I would like to see Taker get the strap one more time before he retires. (Which he should do. Retire, that is. Soon.) One thing I don't want to have happen is for Taker to put Batista over at Wrestlemania 23. I'm fine with his streak ending to put a young talent over, but Batista isn't deserving of that honor.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Any one see the 'Taker v HBK final at the Royal Rumble last night?

When Undertaker won I was marking like a little bitch, like I was in 6th grade again.

I would like to see Taker get the strap one more time before he retires. (Which he should do. Retire, that is. Soon.) One thing I don't want to have happen is for Taker to put Batista over at Wrestlemania 23. I'm fine with his streak ending to put a young talent over, but Batista isn't deserving of that honor.

Now that's some interesting booking. I agree with you. There's no point of having the Undertaker end his WM streak to put over a guy like Batista who #1 is old, yet still green, #2 is a stiff, #3 needs roids to be imposing, and #4 shows no respect to the bid'ness.

[Reaper16]

Now that's some interesting booking. I agree with you. There's no point of having the Undertaker end his WM streak to put over a guy like Batista who #1 is old, yet still green, #2 is a stiff, #3 needs roids to be imposing, and #4 shows no respect to the bid'ness.
Yup. There is no one in the WWE ready to make the jump to elite that's worth a damn, imo.

[Reaper16]

Maybe 'Taker comes over to Raw tonight and starts a story leading up to Taker/Cena at WM23?

But then Taker would job to Cena, and I would cry bitter tears.

[booger]

Wrestling is about as entertaining as Jerry Springer, minus the crackwhores.

[Buck]

Maybe 'Taker comes over to Raw tonight and starts a story leading up to Taker/Cena at WM23?

But then Taker would job to Cena, and I would cry bitter tears.

I really doubt that Taker is going to go for the Raw title. He may, but he better stay on Smack Down seeing as I am going to the SD show on Feb 20.

[Ultra Peanut]

Taker beats Batista after carrying him to a solid match. He celebrates, holding the belt aloft. The lights go out, and when they return, he's gone. The belt is in the center of the ring.

SEEYOUNEXTWEEKONTHUNDEREVERYBODY

['Hamas' Jenkins]

That plant that they just brought up to give away Vince's photo to was f*cking nails.

[Buck]

That plant that they just brought up to give away Vince's photo to was f*cking nails.

Im not sure what that means, but thanks for ruining it for me.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Im not sure what that means, but thanks for ruining it for me.
They brought in a girl from the audience...she was hot as f*ck...in a natural way (non WWE).

[Buck]

They brought in a girl from the audience...she was hot as f*ck...in a natural way (non WWE).

So was that what they meant by Fan Appreciation week?

[Ultra Peanut]

Max Bretos... WTF?!

[Reaper16]

Taker beats Batista after carrying him to a solid match. He celebrates, holding the belt aloft. The lights go out, and when they return, he's gone. The belt is in the center of the ring.

SEEYOUNEXTWEEKONTHUNDEREVERYBODY
I would literally masturbate immediately. I can think of no better ending for Mark's career than to win the strap and disappear. (I'm such an effing 'Taker mark it makes me sick. I always have been.)

Unfortunately, it looks as if my little thought about 'Taker going after Cena's WWE belt is going to happen. Undertaker showed up at the very end of RAW and stared down Cena, who had just won the tag title w/ HBK, who had tried to SCM him after the match.

WAO NOES!!! HUH TRIPPLE THREAT @ WM23?!?

[Buck]

I would literally masturbate immediately. I can think of no better ending for Mark's career than to win the strap and disappear. (I'm such an effing 'Taker mark it makes me sick. I always have been.)

Unfortunately, it looks as if my little thought about 'Taker going after Cena's WWE belt is going to happen. Undertaker showed up at the very end of RAW and stared down Cena, who had just won the tag title w/ HBK, who had tried to SCM him after the match.

WAO NOES!!! HUH TRIPPLE THREAT @ WM23?!?

Holy shit.

[Mecca]

It's a possible drag out of seeing what he picks......we'll see if he's on Smackdown too...

If Taker faces Cena........Cena's going to win.

[Reaper16]

It's a possible drag out of seeing what he picks......we'll see if he's on Smackdown too...

If Taker faces Cena........Cena's going to win.
Unfortunately, this is true. I'm nearly 100% positive that Taker would put Cena over at WM23. I just don't think Cena deserves that.

[Mecca]

Unfortunately, this is true. I'm nearly 100% positive that Taker would put Cena over at WM23. I just don't think Cena deserves that.

I think Cena's about as deserving as anyone now of that rub. He's going to be wrestling for them for another decade, he's already a maineventer. He's coming off back to back PPV's where he had matches of his career, he was off the charts good last night.

John Cena does have passion for the business and he does want to be better, I'm not a huge fan of the guy personally but he's earned everything he has and is deserving.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

I think Cena's about as deserving as anyone now of that rub. He's going to be wrestling for them for another decade, he's already a maineventer. He's coming off back to back PPV's where he had matches of his career, he was off the charts good last night.

John Cena does have passion for the business and he does want to be better, I'm not a huge fan of the guy personally but he's earned everything he has and is deserving.

But if he does face UT, and since he will be put over (since Cena hasn't had a clean loss in 2? years) where does that put him? He's already been pushed down everyone's throats, and he's already unbeatable. If UT wants to put the guy over, I guess that's his prerogative, but I also don't know what the point of UT winning the belt and then immediately dropping it would do, other than set up a tournament or weaken the championship. I just have a feeling you're going to see a triple threat match btw HBK, UT and Cena at WM, which of course, Cena will win cleanly, because he always wins cleanly. Other than constantly building up monsters for him to destroy (Umaga, Khali), I don't really know where the Cena character will go from here...it's not the 80's anymore.

[Ultra Peanut]

At this point, no one in the company deserves to end the streak. If it does have to happen, though, Cena is far and away a better choice than Dave the Annymule.

Of course, I'd be lying if I said I wouldn't love it if Taker fought CM Punk for some bizarre reason and Punk no-sold a tombstone, then hit the Pepsi Plunge to win.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

At this point, no one in the company deserves to end the streak. If it does have to happen, though, Cena is far and away a better choice than Dave the Annymule.

Of course, I'd be lying if I said I wouldn't love it if Taker fought CM Punk for some bizarre reason and Punk no-sold a tombstone, then hit the Pepsi Plunge to win.

I'm imagining the PPV buyrate after a CM Punk title win.....probably about .1

No way does Batista deserve to end the streak. The guy is a botch machine, and he's already over the hill.

[Brock]

Whatever happened to that old man who Undertaker wrestled in a bloody mess and they later found out he has hepatitis?

[Chief Chief]

Ya forgot to include the following option:

The virtually-defeated contestant (i.e., slumped by the corner post) suddenly having an instant resurgence of strength and energy (i.e., quickly rolling away) just as the other wrestler is in the process of making the final killer maneuver (i.e., doing a full-speed jump into the air aimed at the 'victim' but instead landing directly into the corner post, resulting in dazed confusion).

[Ultra Peanut]

Whatever happened to that old man who Undertaker wrestled in a bloody mess and they later found out he has hepatitis?I dunno, but Alex Shelley has chlamydia.

[Swanman]

Whatever happened to that old man who Undertaker wrestled in a bloody mess and they later found out he has hepatitis?

The old man was Bob Orton, Randy Orton's dad. When WWE found out he had hepatitis, he was fired immediately because he didn't tell anybody about it, thus putting lots of wrestlers at risk.

[Swanman]

I'm imagining the PPV buyrate after a CM Punk title win.....probably about .1

No way does Batista deserve to end the streak. The guy is a botch machine, and he's already over the hill.

Punk will be a huge star as long as WWE doesn't screw it up, which means he won't be a star because WWE doesn't know talent for chit. Even the watered-down version of Punk being shown now is one of the most over talents in all 3 brands, but yet he jobs first in the elimination chamber.

Batista is awful now that he isn't juiced up. His first couple matches back he couldn't even get his opponents up for the demon-bomb. It was embarassing watching him.

[Ultra Peanut]

HEY!

http://imgred.com/http://artfiles.art.com/images/-/Randy-Orton-132---Entrance-Photofile-Photograph-C11815780.jpeg

['Hamas' Jenkins]

HEY!

http://imgred.com/http://artfiles.art.com/images/-/Randy-Orton-132---Entrance-Photofile-Photograph-C11815780.jpeg

The sad thing is they could build a whole brand around Orton if he wasn't such a dumbass.

[Ultra Peanut]

The sad thing is they could build a whole brand around Orton if he wasn't such a dumbass.Hey!
I'm not getting paid!
And I'm never gonna change my ways!

http://xs311.xs.to/xs311/07052/OrtonBook.png (http://xs.to)

[keg in kc]

Cena's the only talent on the roster right now who could legitimately end 'the streak'. He's so over it's insane. Edge really did him a world of good last year; that was the best booking WWE's had for years, putting those two in a program that went for so long. Cena went from mostly booed, to half-and-half to almost universally cheered now. He gets by far the most pop of anyone in the company. It was really obvious last night when he was more over than HBK in the state of Texas.

I have to say I was really, really surprised to see the two of them get the titles, for political reasons. I can't believe HHH would agree to that. Maybe he's finally realized his time's almost over and it's time to put over the next generation.

And the Cena/Jamal err Umaga program last night at the Rumble was terrific. Get Cena the babyface win, but keep Umagamal an unbeatable without special circumstances monster.

I was really, really happy to see taker on Raw last night. I was afraid they were heading for A taker/tista match like everyone else, which would not only be a shit match, but a waste of the streak (which I think should end to put someone over, it would be a great way to cap off a great career - go out as a pro). I told my girlfriend I thought it would be taker/cena though, so maybe I was right...

What I think they ought to do is have Taker beat Batista for the World Title before 'mania, and then have Cena end the streak at 'mania, unifying the belts.

I have a bad feeling they're going to put Michaels over at mania, though.

[Mecca]

Punk will be a huge star as long as WWE doesn't screw it up, which means he won't be a star because WWE doesn't know talent for chit. Even the watered-down version of Punk being shown now is one of the most over talents in all 3 brands, but yet he jobs first in the elimination chamber.

Batista is awful now that he isn't juiced up. His first couple matches back he couldn't even get his opponents up for the demon-bomb. It was embarassing watching him.

Punk will not be a huge star because HHH, HBK and Stephanie hate the guy. When Heyman got dismissed he was totally screwed. Punk has been ****ed since SS when the crowd cheered him over DX, I picture Stephanie and HHH in the booking meeting going "**** this guy".

Guys like Anderson and Finlay are in the back using their clout to get guys like Hardcore Holly pushed ahead of Punk because they know where their bread is buttered with Steph......

Punk's pretty much screwed.

[Reaper16]

WSX is... interesting so far.

[keg in kc]

Punk will not be a huge star because HHH, HBK and Stephanie hate the guy. When Heyman got dismissed he was totally screwed. Punk has been ****ed since SS when the crowd cheered him over DX, I picture Stephanie and HHH in the booking meeting going "**** this guy".

Guys like Anderson and Finlay are in the back using their clout to get guys like Hardcore Holly pushed ahead of Punk because they know where their bread is buttered with Steph......

Punk's pretty much screwed.Punk is apparently screwed because of his attitude:While CM Punk's initial months with WWE were plagued by heat from a few key members of the WWE power bloc, he now has heat with much of the lockerroom, the Wrestling-Observer Newsletter reports.

Management received multiple complaints from wrestlers who claimed that Punk carries a "main-event" attitude backstage despite being relatively new to World Wrestling Entertainment.

Sources say that Punk doesn't say or do anything inherently disrespectful, but his sarcastic attitude is not well-received by a lockerroom that does not believe he's earned the right to possess such an attitude.

The Observer adds that his relationship with Maria does not help his standing in the lockerroom.

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I should add I was extremely disappointed in seeing Punk job to Striker tonight. They clearly are totally burying the guy.

And wtf was with Holly beating van Dam clean. From WWE champ to jobbing to jobber Holly in a year's time.

Vince really is killing ECW.

And now the Undertaker shows up on ECW. What is this crap?

[Reaper16]

lol. I suppose 'Taker has the right to challenge for the ECW belt, too. Of course, this all means that he is going to wrestle Batista @ WM23.

[greg63]

Crap - was supposed to be public and multiple choice. I feel like body-slamming somebody now.


LMAO

[Reaper16]

Heh. Imagine if Undertaker were to challenge for any kind of championship he wanted to:

Joe Buck: Its over! The St. Louis Cardinals have won the World Series!
*lights go out*
*GONG*
[/chokeslams Pujols]


Stern German Professor: Congratulations to all of the 2007 Nobel Prize winners.
*lights go out*
*GONG*

etc.

[keg in kc]

lol. I suppose 'Taker has the right to challenge for the ECW belt, too. Of course, this all means that he is going to wrestle Batista @ WM23.Which could go down as the worst match in the history of mania.

Not to mention, his inability to work in the right right now aside, if Batista won, they'd be allowing a 38-year old wrestler whose body is falling apart to end the streak. I doubt he's still working in 3 years. Ridiculous.

[Reaper16]

Which could go down as the worst match in the history of mania.

Not to mention, his inability to work in the right right now aside, if Batista won, they'd be allowing a 38-year old wrestler whose body is falling apart to end the streak. I doubt he's still working in 3 years. Ridiculous.
Yup, on all points. It's a damn shame.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Punk is apparently screwed because of his attitude:

So, basically, they are all jealous that he gets to bang Maria Kanellis. :shake:

[bushmaster]

i like the herpes.

MINNEAPOLIS -- Minnesota high school wrestling programs were suspended Tuesday because of a widespread herpes outbreak.

The Minnesota State High School League banned competitions and direct contact between wrestlers in practice until Feb. 6 after 24 cases of herpes gladiatorum were reported by 10 teams. The virus is spread by skin-to-skin contact, and symptoms include lesions on the face, head and neck.

The suspension is meant to control the current outbreak, allow time to diagnose new cases and prevent disqualifications at the state tournament, scheduled for Feb. 28-March 3.

The Minnesota Department of Health has been tracking the virus, caused by herpes simplex Type 1, the same strain that causes cold sores. Officials first became aware of the outbreak at a tournament in Rochester in late-December.

Scot Davis, who coaches wrestling at Owatonna High School, has been involved in wrestling in Minnesota for more than 40 years and can't remember the league completely shutting down before.

Davis' wrestlers, who get checkups several times a week, competed at the Rochester tournament where the outbreak was first detected, yet none of his wrestlers has been infected.

"I think it's a bold step," he said. "How else are you going to get this thing cleared up? How do I explain to a mom that her kid has herpes forever?"


Steve Larsen, wrestling coach at Century High School in Rochester, said his team will miss three competitions because of the eight-day suspension.

"It's going to make scheduling interesting," he said. "I hope some of it will get rescheduled."

The Century team has had no skin problems this year, Larsen said. But in the past, when a few of his wrestlers came down with ringworm, his team was suspended from practice and competition as a precaution.

Infected wrestlers have to sit out matches and get cleared by doctors before they can resume wrestling, he said.

Dr. B.J. Anderson, a former wrestler who acts as a health adviser to the high school league, said the greatest concern is an infection of the eye, which can, in rare cases, lead to scarring or blindness. The virus can remain in a body indefinitely, he said.

A similar outbreak occurred in 1999, affecting 63 wrestlers and disqualifying several of them from the state tournament, Anderson said.

Dr. Henry Balfour, a national expert on herpes who works in the department of virology at the University of Minnesota, said wrestlers are at a high risk for this sort of infection because of the nature of the sport.

"Usually you have to have damage to the skin," he said. "If there is a break in the skin ... then the virus could take and cause a skin infection."

Copyright 2007 by The Associated Press

[Mecca]

I should add I was extremely disappointed in seeing Punk job to Striker tonight. They clearly are totally burying the guy.

And wtf was with Holly beating van Dam clean. From WWE champ to jobbing to jobber Holly in a year's time.

Vince really is killing ECW.

And now the Undertaker shows up on ECW. What is this crap?

RVD is jobbing because his contract is up in July and he's made no secret of the fact that he's probably leaving because he isn't happy there.

[Ultra Peanut]

WSX is... interesting so far.Shit, my TiVo didn't catch it. Stupid MTV.

Good thing they show repeats of everything a thousand times a week.

I should add I was extremely disappointed in seeing Punk job to Striker tonight. They clearly are totally burying the guy.I actually didn't mind that too much.

I'd rather have seen some sort of Punk-Burke midcard feud rather than having him curtain jerk every week and feud with someone like Striker, but he had plenty of offense and lost by being screwed, so it doesn't really make him look bad. It was better than having the streak end in a clean loss to Holly, that's for damn sure.

From what I've seen about the Punk situation, HHH actually doesn't seem to hate him as much as some think he does. Not to say he's ready to back a Punk world title run or anything just yet, but most of the anti-Punk stuff in the back seems to be more from the old-school guys who honestly think he's crap and only on the roster because of Heyman, in addition to retards like Lagan.

Vince really is killing ECW.That whole speech might as well have been a shoot, because Mr. McMahon was saying what Vince really thinks.

RVD is jobbing because his contract is up in July and he's made no secret of the fact that he's probably leaving because he isn't happy there.Yeah. At this point, the only thing to do when it comes to RVD and Sabu is to bide your time and wait until they're in TNA.

In closing, here's a picture from the mixed-up files of Mr. CM Punk:

This man is wanted by the FBI

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a354/xcmpunkx/Punkspics026.jpgPlease, Arn, don't put him back on the streets!

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I'd rather have seen some sort of Punk-Burke midcard feud rather than having him curtain jerk every week and feud with someone like Striker, but he had plenty of offense and lost by being screwed, so it doesn't really make him look bad. It was better than having the streak end in a clean loss to Holly, that's for damn sure.I don't get why Striker is even on the air. Feuding with Balls and now Punk, when he's not drawing any heat. He's a joke. How they fired all those other guys and not him is a complete mystery.

Punk jobbing his streak to Jobber Holly was just unfrickingbelievable. It's hurt Punk, he's not getting the same pop he did after his debut. People are starting to not care and that's death in wrestling. But it's the typical WWE "promote a guy big when he arrives and then dump him to the undercard" approach. I'm sure Monty Brown will get the same thing.

And Holly is a joke. I guess they're *finally* putting him out to pasture, mr. career jobber, so they're going to give him some wins in the new developmental ECW as a pat on the back. I wonder if he's training anybody there?That whole speech might as well have been a shoot, because Mr. McMahon was saying what Vince really thinks.Yeah, although I do think (duh) it was all designed to start the old vs new angle.Yeah. At this point, the only thing to do when it comes to RVD and Sabu is to bide your time and wait until they're in TNA.I think RVD stays if they offer him enough money. We'll see. I'm not sure it's as cut-and-dried as everyone says.

I don't know what's up with Sabu.

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Bit of spoilage from the Smackdown taping last night:









(can't remember the number for the background color, so scroll down if'n you want to read, otherwise, you've been warned)












Closing Segment: Batista's music plays as he walks down to the ring in a suit. He received one of the biggest ovations all night. He cuts a promo on how all week, he's been hearing from people, "can you beat the Undertaker? You can't do it." He "welcomes the challenge," and wants to know, man to man, what Undertaker's decision is. John Cena's music plays to the loudest pop of the night. "I'm here for the same reason you are," Cena states, recalling his past 48 hours from the Umaga match to winning the tag belts with Shawn Michaels, to nearly getting superkicked after the match from his own partner, to Undertaker making a surprise Raw appearance seemingly wanting Cena's belt.

Undertaker then comes out to nearly the pop Cena had, and stares down both men. Then, the DX theme song plays as Shawn Michaels emerges. "You two aren't the only ones who want an answer from the Undertaker." He proceeds to challenge Undertaker to a match with the title shot on the line and "give these people what they want to see." The crowd heat for this is very hot, the hottest the crowd would get all night.

Vince McMahon's music hits as he very angrily makes his way to the ring. Vince states that Undertaker does have a decision to make, and that he doesn't care what Michaels or the people wants. He tells the people what they want. He does make a match however: John Cena and Shawn Michaels vs. Batista and The Undertaker as the main event of No Way Out.

[Mecca]

Shit, my TiVo didn't catch it. Stupid MTV.

Good thing they show repeats of everything a thousand times a week.

I actually didn't mind that too much.

I'd rather have seen some sort of Punk-Burke midcard feud rather than having him curtain jerk every week and feud with someone like Striker, but he had plenty of offense and lost by being screwed, so it doesn't really make him look bad. It was better than having the streak end in a clean loss to Holly, that's for damn sure.

From what I've seen about the Punk situation, HHH actually doesn't seem to hate him as much as some think he does. Not to say he's ready to back a Punk world title run or anything just yet, but most of the anti-Punk stuff in the back seems to be more from the old-school guys who honestly think he's crap and only on the roster because of Heyman, in addition to retards like Lagan.

That whole speech might as well have been a shoot, because Mr. McMahon was saying what Vince really thinks.

Yeah. At this point, the only thing to do when it comes to RVD and Sabu is to bide your time and wait until they're in TNA.

In closing, here's a picture from the mixed-up files of Mr. CM Punk:

Please, Arn, don't put him back on the streets!

Tornado has a match on WSXExtra so if you feel the time to pull up MTV's website you can give that a watch.

Sadly Lagana didn't want to do some of the things he's done......he was firmly against giving Holly any kind of push. Finlay and Anderson keep going above his head......

Stephanie McMahon hates Punk, and she hates Heyman too.........the reason the agents and old school guys are saying shit about Punk is they now where their bread is buttered and they're just being yes men to appease her.

[Swanman]

Tornado has a match on WSXExtra so if you feel the time to pull up MTV's website you can give that a watch.

Sadly Lagana didn't want to do some of the things he's done......he was firmly against giving Holly any kind of push. Finlay and Anderson keep going above his head......

Stephanie McMahon hates Punk, and she hates Heyman too.........the reason the agents and old school guys are saying shit about Punk is they now where their bread is buttered and they're just being yes men to appease her.

ECW has been dead to me since the ppv in December. I haven't even bothered to read recaps of the shows online. Vince took every original ECW member and buried them beyond recognition so he could get stiffs like Hardcore Holly, Bobby Lashley, Test, etc. "over". It's pretty telling that during the ECW title match at the Rumble, the fans were booing both Lashley and Test. Then they took the one surefire star in the making in CM Punk and buried him because the old farts are jealous that some young new kid was getting huge pops. Even if he has the worst attitude ever (which I doubt, workers in ROH and TNA all loved working with him), the crowd wants to see him and that's all that matters in the end if you want to draws fans/make money.

Thank goodness the original spirit of ECW (great wrestling, long matches, simple storylines that make sense) is alive and well in Ring of Honor. Even with a decent rate of turnover, they consistently put on great shows because they use their top stars correctly and are always looking to get some new guys to the top of the card.

I watched WSX, and it could do pretty well, especially if the ROH guys get a lot of camera time. I'd also like to see the Dragon Gate tag team get a lot of tv time, they'll wow some people. The announcers were beyond awful, but so are all the other announcers around today except JBL and Joey Styles. Also, they made a great choice picking Evans vs. Sydal as the first match. Those two guys have great chemistry because they've worked together a lot in ROH. I don't like seeing XPac again, but I understand they need some recognizable names to start the show.

[Boris The Great]

Stephanie McMahon hates Punk, and she hates Heyman too.........the reason the agents and old school guys are saying shit about Punk is they now where their bread is buttered and theyre just being yes men to appease her.
If Stephanie McMahon hated CM Punk, he never would have gotten pushed in the first place. Like Heyman had more say than she did? And if HHH and HBK hated him, name one rational explaination for why they would have agreed to team with him at Survivor Series. They could have had him off the show entirely if they wanted to, and instead he ends up working with them in one of the most high profile matches on the card. Yeah, they really have it out for that guy.

That stuff is the worst of the internet wrestling BS, where certain people are always to blame and others can do no wrong. CM Punk is no angel. Guys in ROH definitely did not all love working with him, as more than a few made off-the-record comments to the sheets as far back as when WWE first sent him to OVW about how Punk had a lot of karma waiting to come back on him.

And the claim about someone like Dave Finlay being a spineless yes-man is laughable.

[Mecca]

If Stephanie McMahon hated CM Punk, he never would have gotten pushed in the first place. Like Heyman had more say than she did? And if HHH and HBK hated him, name one rational explaination for why they would have agreed to team with him at Survivor Series. They could have had him off the show entirely if they wanted to, and instead he ends up working with them in one of the most high profile matches on the card. Yeah, they really have it out for that guy.

That stuff is the worst of the internet wrestling BS, where certain people are always to blame and others can do no wrong. CM Punk is no angel. Guys in ROH definitely did not all love working with him, as more than a few made off-the-record comments to the sheets as far back as when WWE first sent him to OVW about how Punk had a lot of karma waiting to come back on him.

And the claim about someone like Dave Finlay being a spineless yes-man is laughable.

Go listen to Matt Hardys shoot from the time he was unemployed he paints Finlay as a total jackass.

Punk was fine on the 3rd brand with Heyman going to bat for him in meetings.....he was ****ed when he GOT OVER on DX at SS. There's a big difference in not caring about another guy on a show than what you do when that guy gets over on you.

Triple H has been burrying people for years.......it's not some huge shocker that he'd be pissed the new guy got a bigger pop than him.

[|Zach|]

Holy shit.

[Adept Havelock]

It's similarity to Kabuki theatre.

[BigRock]

That stuff is the worst of the internet wrestling BS, where certain people are always to blame and others can do no wrong.
Agreed. Every few years it's like a new backstage villain has to be crowned for people to blame when things go wrong. And in some cases it's no doubt deserved, but then EVERYTHING starts to get blamed on them and it becomes a parody of itself.

[Boris The Great]

Go listen to Matt Hardys shoot from the time he was unemployed he paints Finlay as a total jackass.
Well, if Matt Hardy says it, then it must be true. BTW, being a jackass does not make you a spineless yes-man.

Punk was fine on the 3rd brand with Heyman going to bat for him in meetings.....he was ****ed when he GOT OVER on DX at SS.
Just to throw some actual facts into this discussion, Survivor Series was November 26th. The match where Punk had his first loss, followed by all the talk about how he was in the doghouse, was January 9th. Over 6 weeks later. Not exactly a cause and effect.

Triple H has been burrying people for years.......its not some huge shocker that hed be pissed the new guy got a bigger pop than him.
And he was so pissed that he waited 6 weeks to act on it.

The problems with CM Punk have been documented pretty well over the past several weeks. Just off the top of my head, he went around complaining about his involvement in the Elimination Chamber, not a smart move for someone who has only been in WWE for a few months. He threw a fit in the dressing room at a show because the crowd didnt respond to him well. He blew off advice from agents when they tried to talk to him. And a lot of the wrestlers are not especially fond of him. That is a pretty bad mix, and those arent even all the examples.

[Mecca]

The Elimination Chamber booking was awful....not to mention Heyman wanted to give Punk a put over in that match by having him be the one to take out Big Show which Show was fine with but Finlay and Anderson immediatly had an issue and wouldn't allow it to happen.

The WWE locker room has a high school mentality Punk's new so god forbid he say something. They expect to be able to downgrade you, talk shit to you and if you don't just sit there with your head down you're a problem. But it's cool for Randy Orton to shit in peoples bags....

As far as Finlay goes even if you respect the guy and think he's tough. As an agent in the WWE you are a yes man. You know where your bread is buttered with Steph and management. Ted DiBiase wasn't being a yes man and was telling them which pushes he thought were wrong and which guys they like were bad workers......he was fired.

Just for reference on what I think of Finlay's opinions as an agent....he lobbied for Atrain to be pushed ahead of Matt Hardy and Edge...ATRAIN. Then when he got Atrain into the spot that was suppose to be for Matt....he had awful matches with Edge and Finlay turned around and blamed Edge for it.

Yea that Finlay he knows talent...pushing for someone like Holly over Punk is just stupid, you aren't a draw due to senority. If this was 1997 Finlay and Anderson would be telling Vince that Steve Austin guy isn't any good and Henry Godwinn should get a mainevent push.

[Swanman]

The bottom line is that Punk is a great performer (see any of the matches in the Joe v. Punk trilogy if you doubt this) that the fans want to cheer for. In a brand with very few guys that are worth a damn in the ring, he needs to be pushed to the moon. I don't care about any "attitude issues", that has no bearing on his abilities in the ring and the ability to connect with the crowd. Steve Austin beat the shit out of his wife multiple times, and Vince still brings him back time after time, so obviously they look past character issues on a case-by-case basis. Unfortunately, Vince can't see past his own ego at this point so we'll continue to see big roided-up stiffs stalking around the ring putting the fans to sleep.

One other thing I read about Punk was that they wanted him to join Spirit Squad a while ago and he refused. Obviously they were pissed at him for that but I can't disagree with his decision.

[Ultra Peanut]

Agreed. Every few years it's like a new backstage villain has to be crowned for people to blame when things go wrong. And in some cases it's no doubt deservedhttp://imgred.com/http://brent78-b.mirror.waffleimages.com/files/2e/2eb5c5fe069c97d3e4435ab7a20b418282d40e19.jpg

[Ted Theodore Logan]

Who do you guys that like wrestling here think will go into the Hall of Fame this year? I think McMahon needs to put Randy "Macho Man" Savage in!

[Mecca]

Who do you guys that like wrestling here think will go into the Hall of Fame this year? I think McMahon needs to put Randy "Macho Man" Savage in!

The WWE wants nothing to do with Savage at all so that at this point is a Pipe Dream at best....

[Ultra Peanut]

http://www.wwe.com/superstars/raw/maria/lovenotes/020107

I'm sure this has nothing to do with why Punk is getting heat backstage:

I usually wear a black top and sparkly belt with jeans. Now, to hide the fact that you were rushed out of the house by your amazing boyfriend and you didn’t have time to do your hair, put on a fun hat, cocked a little to the side and OW OW! You’re a sex kitten extraordinaire, ready for a late night prowl on the town. Add some red lipstick in the car and he can watch you blow kisses in the mirror. He can think later about you b***ing…. Nevermind!

[Phobia]

PLEASE DIE THREAD!!!!

[Ultra Peanut]

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[Mecca]

HAHA.....that Ahmed stuff is great.

[BigRock]

The WWE wants nothing to do with Savage at all so that at this point is a Pipe Dream at best....
He did get included on that list of HOF candidates that Hulk Hogan gave away on the radio. And they acknowledged in a recent magazine that a Macho Man DVD is the one they get the most requests for, so it's hard to imagine that not happening at some point if they know they'll make lots of money from it.

[Mecca]

He did get included on that list of HOF candidates that Hulk Hogan gave away on the radio. And they acknowledged in a recent magazine that a Macho Man DVD is the one they get the most requests for, so it's hard to imagine that not happening at some point if they know they'll make lots of money from it.

Well......Jakks who does the action figures wanted to sign him to a Legends contract so they could make a figure. They were told by the WWE it wasn't happening and they wanted nothing to do with him at all.

[dirk digler]

So what did Randy Orton do to piss everyone off? I hate the guy so I am curious.

[Mecca]

So what did Randy Orton do to piss everyone off? I hate the guy so I am curious.

Which time?

[dirk digler]

Which time?

Any

[Mecca]

Any

He's gotten in trouble for things like.....smoking weed in the back.......it was reported he took a shit in a girls bag because she didn't know who he was and blew him off backstage. Although that had been denied by both parties and that he "filled her bag with hand lotion ruining all the stuff in it"

[dirk digler]

He's gotten in trouble for things like.....smoking weed in the back.......it was reported he took a shit in a girls bag because she didn't know who he was and blew him off backstage. Although that had been denied by both parties and that he "filled her bag with hand lotion ruining all the stuff in it"

Thanks

[Mecca]

What is the reason you dislike young Randall?

[BigRock]

Well......Jakks who does the action figures wanted to sign him to a Legends contract so they could make a figure. They were told by the WWE it wasn't happening and they wanted nothing to do with him at all.
That sounds strange. Jakks has done a bunch of Ultimate Warrior figures and he and WWE hate each other.

[Reaper16]

Ahmed Johnson? Is that guy dead? He dropped the **** off.

[Mecca]

Ahmed Johnson? Is that guy dead? He dropped the **** off.

He's not dead but he weighs about 450lbs.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Digler,

FWIW, Orton also tested positive for steroids a few months ago, continued to work televised shows and was put over on the next PPV (against Carlito).

[Ultra Peanut]

Digler,

FWIW, Orton also tested positive for steroids a few months ago, continued to work televised shows and was put over on the next PPV (against Carlito).It was apparently weed, if any drug, that landed him in trouble. The main reason for the suspension, during which he worked without pay and was kept out of house shows, seemed to be his attitude and actions backstage. Not that he ever truly shit in a Diva's bag, but he's still acted like a total douche too many times to count.

Through it all, he's still our Randall.

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