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Stinger
01-26-2007, 10:15 AM
Read article here -------------> LINK (http://www.sptimes.com/2007/01/26/Bucs/For_Bucs__it_s_buyer_.shtml)

Cap space for all 32 Teams

Cap money available

1. San Francisco $42.1M
2. Buffalo $39.7M
3. Arizona $36.7M
4. Tennessee $36M
5. Cleveland $33.3M
6. Minnesota $32.4M
7. (tie)Jacksonville $32M
7. St. Louis $32M
9. New England $30.4M
10. Cincinnati $30.2M
11. New Orleans $29.9M
12. Green Bay $29.5M
13. New York Jets $26.1M
14. San Diego $24.6M
15. Tampa Bay $24.2M
16. Detroit $23.8M
17. Chicago $23.4M
18. Seattle $22.5M
19. Dallas $21.5M
20. Miami $17.8M
21. New York Giants $15.7M
22. Oakland $14.1M
23. Houston $13.3M
24. Atlanta $10M
25. Philadelphia $12.4M
26. Denver $7.6M
27. Kansas City $7M
28. Baltimore $5.7M
29. Indianapolis $4.9M
30. Carolina $3.4M
31. Washington $951,000
32. Pittsburgh $150,000

These numbers are fluid and can change based on bonuses, roster moves, contract extensions, etc. Teams with high draft picks, such as the Bucs, will need to reserve considerable cap space for their picks.

Figures are approximate. Sources: media reports, club officials and NFL Players Association
[Last modified January 25, 2007, 23:36:12]

ChiTown
01-26-2007, 10:34 AM
Obviously, we've managed our cap pretty well. It's nice to know that we don't have any holes to fill for 2007, yet if we did, we'd have PLENTY of cash if needed................

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KC Jones
01-26-2007, 10:36 AM
Chargers - talent rich and plenty of cap space.

Chiefs - talent poor and little cap space


Which of these two teams are better managed?

BigRedChief
01-26-2007, 10:42 AM
Chargers - talent rich and plenty of cap space.

Chiefs - talent poor and little cap space


Which of these two teams are better managed?
Damnit Carl! :cuss:

ChiTown
01-26-2007, 10:46 AM
3 time Super Bowl Champ, and recent AFC Championship Game participant New England - $30.4MM under......

WHAT THE **** IS WRONG WITH THIS PICTURE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

thehead
01-26-2007, 10:55 AM
This can not be right :rolleyes: same ol crap. longest tenure GM .HOW

I know full seats= CP :banghead:

Archie Bunker
01-26-2007, 10:57 AM
I stopped caring about cap space a long time ago. It never seems to matter.

BigCatDaddy
01-26-2007, 11:02 AM
I agree. These things never seem to be right. Teams that are supposedly over just keep on signing.

thehead
01-26-2007, 11:03 AM
I stopped caring about cap space a long time ago. It never seems to matter.


True ,still do not like them numbers compared to the on the field product

eazyb81
01-26-2007, 11:03 AM
I wonder if this is before or after the Gonzo signing.

Archie Bunker
01-26-2007, 11:07 AM
True ,still do not like them numbers compared to the on the field product

Me neither. It all comes down to drafting. The Chiefs wouldn't have to throw money at guys like Law, Surtain, Knight, etc if they drafted better.

I think Herm will improve this problem.

htismaqe
01-26-2007, 11:09 AM
These numbers are fluid and can change based on bonuses, roster moves, contract extensions, etc. Teams with high draft picks, such as the Bucs, will need to reserve considerable cap space for their picks.

ROFL

"Here's a list of NFL teams and their current cap situation. The cap numbers shown do not reflect anything that resembles an actual player salary, so keep that in mind."

BigRedChief
01-26-2007, 11:14 AM
heres another one from the Charlotte Observer:
http://blogs.charlotte.com/panthers/2006/12/index.html

Rank/Team/Projected cap room
1/San Francisco/$42.1M
2/Buffalo/$39.7M
3/Arizona/$36.7M
4/Tennessee/$36M
5/Cleveland/$33.3M
6/Minnesota/$32.4M
7 (tie)/Jacksonville/$32M
7/St. Louis/$32M
9/New England/$30.4M
10/Cincinnati/$30.2M
11/New Orleans/$29.9M
12/Green Bay/$29.5M
13/New York Jets/$26.1M
14/San Diego/$24.6M
15/Tampa Bay/$24.2
16/Detroit/$23.8M
17/Chicago/$23.4M
18/Seattle/$22.5M
19/Dallas/$21.5M
20/Miami/$17.8M
21/New York Giants/$15.7M
22/Oakland/$14.1M
23/Houston/$13.3
24/Atlanta/$10M
25/Philadelphia/$12.4M
26/Denver/$7.6M
27/Kansas City/$7M
28/Baltimore/$5.7M
29/Indianapolis/$4.9M
30/Carolina/$3.4M
31/Washington/$951,000
32/Pittsburgh/$150,000

So they are either copying each other or the NFLPA is leaking this info to the press.

Mr. Laz
01-26-2007, 11:28 AM
I stopped caring about cap space a long time ago. It never seems to matter.
then why can't we sign whomever we want?

ChiTown
01-26-2007, 11:30 AM
These numbers are fluid and can change based on bonuses, roster moves, contract extensions, etc. Teams with high draft picks, such as the Bucs, will need to reserve considerable cap space for their picks.

ROFL

"Here's a list of NFL teams and their current cap situation. The cap numbers shown do not reflect anything that resembles an actual player salary, so keep that in mind."

True

I'm sure the Chiefs will be right at the top of the list for money available....when everything shakes out. Now that's ROFL

Over-Head
01-26-2007, 12:04 PM
Wow, we got a better draft pick and more cap room than the Chiefs.
At least we beat you bunch at SOMETHING this season! :p

htismaqe
01-26-2007, 12:24 PM
then why can't we sign whomever we want?

Because the owner refuses to pay out of his own pocket for signing bonuses...

Kerberos
01-26-2007, 12:30 PM
It just seems UNREAL that Daniel Snyder and the Redskins are ALWAYS over the cap before deadline of getting UNDER.... and they let a few player go and sign new ones like there is NO tomorrow.

I know cash above cap is something that they do allot of with defering signing bonuses but DAMN you would think that would catch up sooner or later?

:shake:

I just don't get it!

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Wile_E_Coyote
01-26-2007, 12:45 PM
Even if they had the most cap available the talent isn't

Archie Bunker
01-26-2007, 12:49 PM
Because the owner refuses to pay out of his own pocket for signing bonuses...

Yep and the players actually want to come here.

Chiefs Pantalones
01-26-2007, 01:42 PM
3 time Super Bowl Champ, and recent AFC Championship Game participant New England - $30.4MM under......

WHAT THE **** IS WRONG WITH THIS PICTURE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

What's wrong is Carl doesn't know how to run a football team, football-wise.

acesn8s
01-26-2007, 01:43 PM
Sooooo....is this why we went to the Mexican Football League to find a player?

Because they play for cheaper wages?

JohninGpt
01-26-2007, 01:45 PM
Sooooo....is this why we went to the Mexican Football League to find a player?

Because they play for cheaper wages?
As long as they get him to KC before they finish that big fence in Texas.

BigRedChief
01-26-2007, 01:48 PM
Sooooo....is this why we went to the Mexican Football League to find a player?

Because they play for cheaper wages?
And they will do odd jobs around one arrowhead drive for King Carl.

banyon
01-26-2007, 02:05 PM
Wow, New England just keeps rolling on.

Jacksonville looks poised for a good run too.

Chiefs Pantalones
01-26-2007, 02:15 PM
Wow, New England just keeps rolling on.

Jacksonville looks poised for a good run too.

Those numbers mean nothing.

If you have a good cap guy, you can do a lot with freakin' 3 mil.

The Chiefs don't...or they choose not to.

htismaqe
01-26-2007, 02:19 PM
Those numbers mean nothing.

If you have a good cap guy, you can do a lot with freakin' 3 mil.

The Chiefs don't...or they choose not to.

The Chiefs have an EXCELLENT cap staff. They don't go over and they very rarely have tons of space under.

People are confusing the cap with CASH. The reason the Chiefs don't sign high-profile free agents is because ownership won't use funds from outside of the football operation to invest in football players.

OnTheWarpath15
01-26-2007, 02:24 PM
Notice anything about that list?

Looks to me like a lot of the "younger teams" are near the top, while a lot of "older teams" are near the bottom.

This is a generalization, but I think that is a factor to consider.

Let's use LJ as an example. Still on his first contract. Getting paid peanuts compared to other star RB's. Sooner or later, CP has to pay him what he's worth.

Same goes for guys that maybe were taken in the 2-5 rounds. They've turned into very solid/star players, and they're due to get paid.

Imagine a "young team" with many of these types of players. Sooner or later, they're gonna filter down to the bottom of that list.

Chiefs Pantalones
01-26-2007, 02:31 PM
The Chiefs have an EXCELLENT cap staff. They don't go over and they very rarely have tons of space under.

People are confusing the cap with CASH. The reason the Chiefs don't sign high-profile free agents is because ownership won't use funds from outside of the football operation to invest in football players.

So what you're saying is we're a mediocre, all about the bottom line, losing franchise?

Buck
01-26-2007, 02:32 PM
Wasnt San Fran something like $7 Mil over the cap a few years ago?

htismaqe
01-26-2007, 02:35 PM
So what you're saying is we're a mediocre, all about the bottom line, losing franchise?

Even though I believe all of those things to be true, that wasn't what I was saying at all.

What I'm saying is that when it comes to the business aspect of the NFL, squeezing every last ounce of profit out of a team that hasn't done shit in years, I don't think there's a better franchise in the entire league.

Halfcan
01-26-2007, 02:40 PM
we are fugged!

2112
01-26-2007, 02:40 PM
This one is a little different


1

San Francisco 49ers

$42.1 M

2

Buffalo Bills

$39.7 M

3

Arizona Cardinals

$36.7 M

4

Tennessee Titans

$36 M

5

Cleveland Browns

$33.305 M

6

St. Louis Rams

$31.98 M

7

Minnesota Vikings

$31.5 M

8

Jacksonville Jaguars

$31 M

9

Cincinnati Bengals

$28.8 M

10

NY Jets

$28.455 M

11

Green Bay Packers

$28.36 M

12

New England Patriots

$26.98 M

13

Chicago Bears

$26.9 M

14

New Orleans Saints

$26 M

15

San Diego Chargers

$24.6 M

16

Tampa Bay Buccaneers

$23.985 M

17

Detroit Lions

$23.8 M

18

Seattle Seahawks

$21.9 M

19

Dallas Cowboys

$21.5 M

20

Houston Texans

$19.8 M

21

Miami Dolphins

$17.8 M

22

NY Giants

$15.7 M

23

Oakland Raiders

$14.105 M

24

Philadelphia Eagles

$12.4 M

25

Atlanta Falcons

$11.5 M

26

Denver Broncos

$7.6 M

27

Kansas City Chiefs

$7 M

28

Baltimore Ravens

$5.7 M

29

Indianapolis Colts

$4.9 M

30

Pittsburgh Steelers

$1.44 M

31

Carolina Panthers

$-3.1

32

Washington Redskins

$-2.388 M

From here (http://www.askthecommish.com/salarycap/numbers.asp)

acesn8s
01-26-2007, 03:05 PM
Wasnt San Fran something like $7 Mil over the cap a few years ago?
And they decided to rebuild thier team. King Carl will NEVER rebuild. Hence, a record of 9-7 every year.

BigRock
01-26-2007, 03:22 PM
All these numbers mean is that some teams have a lot of FAs this year, other teams don't. Some teams will rework contracts, others won't. They're just projections, they aren't even close to reality.

BigRedChief
01-26-2007, 03:22 PM
The Chiefs have an EXCELLENT cap staff. They don't go over and they very rarely have tons of space under.

People are confusing the cap with CASH. The reason the Chiefs don't sign high-profile free agents is because ownership won't use funds from outside of the football operation to invest in football players.
The Chiefs know they are going to get say $100 million from the NFL. They know they will sell 70,000 season tickets etc. There is a cap in place. They can't over spend. They will have to pay money up front in signing bonus's sure but they will get it back over the life of the contract. Thats the way the NFL functions correct?
I don't understand. Explain it to me. How are the Chiefs different? They don't want to pay a player $10 million upfront even though they will get it back later?

htismaqe
01-26-2007, 03:30 PM
The Chiefs know they are going to get say $100 million from the NFL. They know they will sell 70,000 season tickets etc. There is a cap in place. They can't over spend. They will have to pay money up front in signing bonus's sure but they will get it back over the life of the contract. Thats the way the NFL functions correct?
I don't understand. Explain it to me. How are the Chiefs different? They don't want to pay a player $10 million upfront even though they will get it back later?

The Chiefs aren't any different than 75% of the other teams out there. They just aren't like the Redskins and Cowboys of the world. It's not about paying $10M up front. It's about paying $15-20M up front when the TEAM doesn't have the cash reserve to do so.

For instance, Irsay had to borrow money from other, NON-FOOTBALL interests to pay Peyton Manning's signing bonus. Daniel Snyder gets around that because he's got 200 luxury suites pouring cash into his pockets.

Coogs
01-26-2007, 03:34 PM
Wasnt San Fran something like $7 Mil over the cap a few years ago?

Something like that. They blew up their roster. Had a couple of "bad" years. Couple of pretty good drafts. Had a year this year that was on the rebound. And now have a decent draft pick number (11th) and a ton of cap space.

Sounds like and damn good plan to me.

2112
01-26-2007, 03:40 PM
This was the Jets cap figures last year at this time.

31 NY Jets $-29 M
Obviously the Jets are really in bad shape here. If the team elects to keep Chad Pennington, they will have to fork over a $3M roster bonus. With a $6 M base salary -- and nearly $4M in this year's bonus proration -- they clearly cannot afford to keep him under the existing contract. However, it will cost them (cap-wise) about $10 M just to cut him. And they can forget about franchising John Abraham again. Expect the cost-cutting to begin soon. No wonder Herm Edwards wants to head to Kansas City!

Now..a year later..after going from 4-12 to 10-6..the Jets are around 27 M under the cap..

Link (http://www.nflfans.com/x/archive/index.php/t-7446.html)

htismaqe
01-26-2007, 03:50 PM
This was the Jets cap figures last year at this time.

Now..a year later..after going from 4-12 to 10-6..the Jets are around 27 M under the cap..

Link (http://www.nflfans.com/x/archive/index.php/t-7446.html)

Pretty much proves that the cap itself is a sham.

BigRedChief
01-26-2007, 03:54 PM
The Chiefs aren't any different than 75% of the other teams out there. They just aren't like the Redskins and Cowboys of the world. It's not about paying $10M up front. It's about paying $15-20M up front when the TEAM doesn't have the cash reserve to do so.

For instance, Irsay had to borrow money from other, NON-FOOTBALL interests to pay Peyton Manning's signing bonus. Daniel Snyder gets around that because he's got 200 luxury suites pouring cash into his pockets.
So your basically saying that the Chiefs have cash flow problems? Why? By even the lowest estimations they are paying out that $100 million+ and making $30-40 Million a year profit. Why would they not have $15-$20 million in cash unless they are pocketing the money and not putting it back.

2112
01-26-2007, 04:01 PM
Pretty much proves that the cap itself is a sham.
Now now Mr. ismaqe..you know the Jets brass had a lot to do with that..


but,on the sham part...I do agree with you..Daniel Snyder makes a joke out of the cap every year.