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kcwild
03-16-2007, 08:26 PM
Chiefs reach deal with another defensive tackle
By ADAM TEICHER
The Kansas City Star
For the second time in two days, the Chiefs agreed to contract terms with a 300-plus-pound defensive tackle.

On Friday, it was unrestricted free agent Alfonso Boone, who played all of his six NFL seasons with the Bears. Boone agreed to a four-year contract that would pay him between $7 million and $8 million and includes guaranteed money of $1.5 million.

The Chiefs a day earlier agreed to similar contract terms with Ron Edwards, who started for them last season. Edwards and Boone are the only two defensive tackles under contract who figure into their plans for next season.

They also have former No. 1 draft pick Ryan Sims, but he is likely to be released sometime before the Chiefs get to training camp.

The 320-pound Boone is a powerful player who could wind up starting. He’s never been a full-time starter in his six seasons, but the Bears considered him a valuable part of their playing rotation.

Boone is the fifth free agent from another team signed by the Chiefs. The others are linebackers Donnie Edwards and Napoleon Harris, offensive tackle Damion McIntosh and long snapper J.P. Darche.

Edwards, Harris and McIntosh will be starters and Boone could win a job. Darche will replace longtime deep snapper Kendall Gammon, an unrestricted free agent.

JBucc
03-16-2007, 08:27 PM
We're saved!

kstater
03-16-2007, 08:28 PM
print em'

El Jefe
03-16-2007, 08:29 PM
I really like this guy.

milkman
03-16-2007, 08:30 PM
Nice signing.

BigRock
03-16-2007, 08:30 PM
I really think he'll be a boon to the defensive line.

milkman
03-16-2007, 08:32 PM
I really think he'll be a boon to the defensive line.

Ughhhh......... :)

Mr. Kotter
03-16-2007, 08:33 PM
If he's better than Ryan Sims, than he'll be worth every penny.

I'll bet, by that standard....he's a keeper. :)

Seriously though, nice signing....he was a backup in Chicago, yes. But he filled in nicely, AND he's got something to proove if he wants a starting job. And the contract is reasonable... :thumb:

unothadeal
03-16-2007, 08:40 PM
If he's better than Ryan Sims, than he'll be worth every penny.

I'll bet, by that standard....he's a keeper. :)

Seriously though, nice signing....he was a backup in Chicago, yes. But he filled in nicely, AND he's got something to proove if he wants a starting job. And the contract is reasonable... :thumb:
I'm better than Ryan Sims...and I suck

El Jefe
03-16-2007, 08:43 PM
This guy is legit and he will be really good for us and he isnt overly expensive, and he is friggin huge.

tomahawk kid
03-16-2007, 08:44 PM
Muther f*ckin hell yeah.

Mr. Kotter
03-16-2007, 08:45 PM
I'm better than Ryan Sims...and I suck

Eh, good point; Carl might sign you too, if you are 6'3" and 320 lbs..... :shrug:

unothadeal
03-16-2007, 08:46 PM
Eh, good point; Carl might sign you too, if you are 6'3" and 320 lbs..... :shrug:
Pretty damn close. If you switch the 3 and the 2

Direckshun
03-16-2007, 08:48 PM
God, are we getting good deals this offseason or what?

We haven't overpaid a single free agent this season. An argument could be made that we got steals on a couple of these folks.

And Boone should be a not-great-but-solid addition to our DL.

What's left for the DL before we close the book? I'd say resign Reed and Wilkerson (if we don't get into a bidding war with the Pack, that is), try and sign McKinley and draft a DT or two.

Things aren't exactly sky-high for the Chiefs, but at least they're looking up.

recxjake
03-16-2007, 08:50 PM
Ian Scott would make this offseason perfect

crazycoffey
03-16-2007, 08:51 PM
wow, good signing! Me Likey! Talented, big, good price tag......

chagrin
03-16-2007, 08:51 PM
So, what exactly are you all excited about? I have yet to see any real reason, other than "we need bodies and we should sign anyone" thoughts posted on this site. How does anyone know he will actually be better than Sims? We don't, I just don't support the belief that "we need bodies" and that's how we go after one of the most, or the most, important needs on the team.

I am not thrilled, I doubt any of you actually saw this guy play, did you? I certainly haven't even heard of him, and I scour NFL news all the time.

Meh, whatever

Direckshun
03-16-2007, 08:54 PM
So, what exactly are you all excited about? I have yet to see any real reason, other than "we need bodies and we should sign anyone" thoughts posted on this site. How does anyone know he will actually be better than Sims? We don't, I just don't support the belief that "we need bodies" and that's how we go after one of the most, or the most, important needs on the team.

I am not thrilled, I doubt any of you actually saw this guy play, did you? I certainly haven't even heard of him, and I scour NFL news all the time.

Meh, whatever
He played behind All Pros DTs in Chicago, bookended by great pass rushing DEs and a solid LBing core. He put up good numbers for a backup DT.

He'll have a chance to start himself now, again bookended by great pass rushing DEs and a solid LBing core. If he earns the starting position, he could put up serious numbers. If he backs up, he'll put up good numbers for a backup DT.

Smed1065
03-16-2007, 08:54 PM
I say good signing.

I have been wrong before.....http://scosoft.com/s/i/460e4ee7.gif

milkman
03-16-2007, 08:55 PM
So, what exactly are you all excited about? I have yet to see any real reason, other than "we need bodies and we should sign anyone" thoughts posted on this site. How does anyone know he will actually be better than Sims? We don't, I just don't support the belief that "we need bodies" and that's how we go after one of the most, or the most, important needs on the team.

I am not thrilled, I doubt any of you actually saw this guy play, did you? I certainly haven't even heard of him, and I scour NFL news all the time.

Meh, whatever

There really isn't anyone out there.

He fills a hole, and when we actually can find a real talent, he can be cut with minimal damge to the cap.

That is what makes it a good signing.

keg in kc
03-16-2007, 08:55 PM
So, what exactly are you all excited about? I have yet to see any real reason, other than "we need bodies and we should sign anyone" thoughts posted on this siteThat's probably reason enough, right now. We didn't have enough bodies to field a starting llineup before this.

Beyond that, he's experienced, he's one of the only players available at DT this offseason and he came cheap. Don't really see the downside.

Direckshun
03-16-2007, 08:56 PM
He was a relatively hot commodity, too. He was one of the top 10 DTs available this offseason.

But to give you perspective on that, so is Reed. So...

chagrin
03-16-2007, 08:57 PM
Okay, just wanted to know what all the hub-bub was.

recxjake
03-16-2007, 08:57 PM
Eric Hicks is still a Chief...

Direckshun
03-16-2007, 08:58 PM
Hicks is as good as gone. No way Herm keeps him around.

Herm doesn't consider Sims a member of this team anymore, and I'm sure he feels the same about Hicks.

Hammock Parties
03-16-2007, 09:02 PM
Guys it is time to panic about the DT situation.

The best thing about this is that we beat out Denver for his services.

Direckshun
03-16-2007, 09:06 PM
Why is it time to panic? Now that we have two okay-good guys, I think we're okay.

We're in the driver's seat for Reed, there's only one other team interested in Wilkerson (although the Packers are loaded) and McKinley remains a prospect, to say nothing of the draft.

I feel a lot better now that we have two bodies. Honestly, until a couple days ago I was worried we'd have to scramble for that.

Hammock Parties
03-16-2007, 09:17 PM
Why is it time to panic?

I was making a joke. Someone posted a thread with that title.

Direckshun
03-16-2007, 09:18 PM
OooooOOOOOooooOOOOOOOoooohhhh...........

Logical
03-16-2007, 09:18 PM
:doh!:

Hammock Parties
03-16-2007, 09:21 PM
:doh!:

Horrible move.

scorpio
03-16-2007, 09:22 PM
The best thing about this is that we beat out Denver for his services.


Pro sports peen envy. I love it.

WilliamTheIrish
03-16-2007, 09:25 PM
Does Boone have a nice posse? A gun collection? Perhaps some bench warrants? Anything to make me feel he'll intimidate?

trndobrd
03-16-2007, 09:26 PM
Maybe this guy is just a 320lb flower waiting to blossom into a solid starting DT.

Money looks right even though it is a thin market for DTs. His stats (26 tackles as a backup) aren't bad. A four man rotation with Edwards, Wilkerson/Reed and a young man-eating rookie picked up in the draft would be nice.

At 31 he doesn't exactly fit in with the youth movement, but he has been relatively injury free (one knee injury in 2004 missed 3 games) and can provide a couple years of stability, as a starter or backup, at the DT position.

crazycoffey
03-16-2007, 09:29 PM
I can't find this article on the kc star site, got a link?

Hammock Parties
03-16-2007, 09:29 PM
I'm starting to feel like we're the Redskins, but in a good way. This offseason is great!

Archie Bunker
03-16-2007, 09:36 PM
Nice. As the offseason went on he was my favorite FA DT option and Carl got it done. I'd still like to see them sign either Wilkerson or Scott for more depth and competition.

The Chiefs are having a very nice offseason and hopefully the draft will be the cherry on top.

dirk digler
03-16-2007, 09:39 PM
Nice signing and this offseason has been a pleasant surprise so far.

Direckshun
03-16-2007, 09:42 PM
I agree. The signings have been uniformly excellent, in that the bigger acquisitions have been good deals, and the smaller acquisitions have been great deals.

Herm promised a lot of shuffling this offseason, and he's warned that there are big, and perhaps unpopular moves to come. He's also said he's going to stockpile draft picks.

So as interesting as things have been, the Chiefs are far from done. Things could get very, very interesting.

beer bacon
03-16-2007, 09:45 PM
I can't find this article on the kc star site, got a link?

http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansascity/16921303.htm

Direckshun
03-16-2007, 09:45 PM
As an interesting sidenote, this is the third player we've signed this offseason that has Super Bowl experience.

Spicy McHaggis
03-16-2007, 09:55 PM
And he immediately becomes the best DT on our roster.

I wouldn't mind bringing Wilkerson back for rotational purposes if he's on the cheap.

Mr. Kotter
03-16-2007, 09:59 PM
As an interesting sidenote, this is the third player we've signed this offseason that has Super Bowl experience.
Darche, Boone, and ??? :hmmm:

And he immediately becomes the best DT on our roster.

I wouldn't mind bringing Wilkerson back for rotational purposes if he's on the cheap.

Yup. I had the same thought. Especially if we can steal a DT in the draft.

kc rush
03-16-2007, 10:00 PM
Darche, Boone, and ??? :hmmm:

Was Harris on the Raider SB team?

crazycoffey
03-16-2007, 10:01 PM
http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansascity/16921303.htm



thank you

Mr. Kotter
03-16-2007, 10:02 PM
Was Harris on the Raider SB team?

Maybe as a rookie? :hmmm:

beer bacon
03-16-2007, 10:02 PM
Was Harris on the Raider SB team?

Yeah.

Direckshun
03-16-2007, 10:03 PM
Was Harris on the Raider SB team?
He was their starting MLB as a rookie.

Mecca
03-16-2007, 10:04 PM
Oddly the only reason I really know and remember this guy is I signed him in my madden franchises a few times, how weird.

Direckshun
03-16-2007, 10:07 PM
Oddly the only reason I really know and remember this guy is I signed him in my madden franchises a few times, how weird.
So what's the scouting report?

Does he respond to a handheld controller well?

Hammock Parties
03-16-2007, 10:10 PM
So what's the scouting report?


Heh. I fired up my copy of Madden. He sucks!

Speed - 54
Strength - 87
Agility - 51
Acceleration - 63
Tackle - 78

Direckshun
03-16-2007, 10:13 PM
So he just kind of rolls around.

Still an improvement.

What're Ryan Sims' numbers?

Mecca
03-16-2007, 10:14 PM
I signed him cause he was cheap and I needed a backup.

boogblaster
03-16-2007, 10:14 PM
Lets spend some of that Silver Baron money...He damn sure didn't take it with him .....

Hammock Parties
03-16-2007, 10:14 PM
Not low enough...

Halfcan
03-16-2007, 10:17 PM
Chiefs already have 5 new starters-what a crazy offseason.

Hopefully a couple of draft picks will be starters also.

At least we are turning over the roster.

Mecca
03-16-2007, 10:24 PM
The Chiefs have draft picks start......are you high?

If we have more than 1 I'd be shocked.....hell even as well as Page played last year he wasn't a full time starter......When's the last time we actually started more than 1 rookie?

HemiEd
03-16-2007, 10:31 PM
Nice signing.

Kind of special he came from the Bears, too.

Direckshun
03-16-2007, 10:39 PM
The Chiefs have draft picks start......are you high?

If we have more than 1 I'd be shocked.....hell even as well as Page played last year he wasn't a full time starter......When's the last time we actually started more than 1 rookie?
I may be overthinking this but I think it's possible Page and Pollard were at a distinct disadvantage because Herm's a cornerback at heart, and he loved the "polish" of the starters over the "raw" rookies.

I'm saying I believe the trend is going to end very soon with Herm.

HemiEd
03-16-2007, 10:39 PM
I was making a joke. Someone posted a thread with that title.

I knew that

crazycoffey
03-16-2007, 10:40 PM
The Chiefs have draft picks start......are you high?

If we have more than 1 I'd be shocked.....hell even as well as Page played last year he wasn't a full time starter......When's the last time we actually started more than 1 rookie?










two years ago, two rookies started, dustin and DJ......



sorry, being a drunk smart ass.

HemiEd
03-16-2007, 10:42 PM
Nice signing and this offseason has been a pleasant surprise so far.

Havn't you heard? Carl is on vacation.

NFL16
03-16-2007, 11:05 PM
Good signing, I think this guy should start.

I still think that the Chiefs should have resigned Reed instead of Edwards. Reed had about double the tackles Edwards had. Also, Boone had more tackles than Edwards did last year as a backup.

StcChief
03-16-2007, 11:07 PM
Excellent move. This really gives draft day oppportunities

milkman
03-16-2007, 11:09 PM
Kind of special he came from the Bears, too.

Because of the quality of their D, or because you have an affinity for the Bears?

crazycoffey
03-16-2007, 11:10 PM
Good signing, I think this guy should start.

I still think that the Chiefs should have resigned Reed instead of Edwards. Reed had about double the tackles Edwards had. Also, Boone had more tackles than Edwards did last year as a backup.


I kinda of agree, seemed that reed had the higher motor and edwards was a big body which both = some positives we needed.....

maybe we will re-sign reed and Reed, Edwards, Boone, and Hali will be our line while Allen is serving his DUI stuff.

Direckshun
03-16-2007, 11:22 PM
I kinda of agree, seemed that reed had the higher motor and edwards was a big body which both = some positives we needed.....

maybe we will re-sign reed and Reed, Edwards, Boone, and Hali will be our line while Allen is serving his DUI stuff.
Nah, we need a speed rusher on the outside to compliment Hali.

Wilkerson would be the answer to a large degree, but I hope we can draft a DE in one of the later rounds and get him four good games of starting experience in Allen's spot.

58-4ever
03-16-2007, 11:25 PM
it seems like Carl feels the pulse of the fans more each year.

Mr. Kotter
03-16-2007, 11:29 PM
it seems like Carl feels the pulse of the fans more each year.

If that were true, he would have signed Robaire Smith too. :(

crazycoffey
03-16-2007, 11:33 PM
Nah, we need a speed rusher on the outside to compliment Hali.

Wilkerson would be the answer to a large degree, but I hope we can draft a DE in one of the later rounds and get him four good games of starting experience in Allen's spot.


we'll see what happens, but I don't know about drafting a DE, not too early anyway, maybe a late round steal.....but with Gun we might see some type of 3-4 while Allen is out.

Plus do we really know "for sure" that Allen will lose a few games next year, was it already decided about how long he will be out?

bdeg
03-16-2007, 11:51 PM
I think the precedent for second DUI's is 4 games.

crazycoffey
03-16-2007, 11:56 PM
Heh. I fired up my copy of Madden. He sucks!

Speed - 54
Strength - 87
Agility - 51
Acceleration - 63
Tackle - 78


Last year's Madden I started Junior and Simms, so I have to think, by my experience, then Boone should win a pro bowl with us......

Bowser
03-17-2007, 12:11 AM
It's settled. Carl reads ChiefsPlanet.

Halfcan
03-17-2007, 12:27 AM
The Chiefs have draft picks start......are you high?

If we have more than 1 I'd be shocked.....hell even as well as Page played last year he wasn't a full time starter......When's the last time we actually started more than 1 rookie?

Page and Pollard will start this year. Plus you have to assume our #1 pick will also start.

Thats 3 right there. Maybe we finally get a good #2 that can step right in-doubtful, but you never know.

bdeg
03-17-2007, 12:31 AM
What makes you think Pollard will start? He barely saw the field besides special teams last year. I hope he starts, solid playmaker, but I wouldn't even say its likely.

Halfcan
03-17-2007, 12:33 AM
He is too big of a hitter to not start-all the guy did was make plays. Same with Page. Their time is now!

Halfcan
03-17-2007, 12:34 AM
Herm wants to get younger- it cuts lots of years from Knight and Gwes to Page and Bonecrusher.

Bonecrusher can't crush bones on the sidelines.

RealSNR
03-17-2007, 12:37 AM
Great. Time for Bears fans from another BB to come on here and tell us how Boone was responsible for all of Chicago's defensive struggles late in the season and how he will end up hurting us, not helping us.

bdeg
03-17-2007, 12:37 AM
I totally agree, but he was a big hitter last year too. And that didn't stop him from riding the bench for the most part.

Hammock Parties
03-17-2007, 12:38 AM
Great. Time for Bears fans from another BB to come on here and tell us how Boone was responsible for all of Chicago's defensive struggles late in the season and how he will end up hurting us, not helping us.

We actually have a Bears fan registered here. I'll ask him to chime in.

Ebolapox
03-17-2007, 12:43 AM
as long as boone has a farm that produces low quality yet cheap wine, we're gold.

Halfcan
03-17-2007, 12:44 AM
We need 3 to 4 more Studs for D and we should be set.

bdeg
03-17-2007, 12:50 AM
I actually think if we draft one solid DT in the draft, and pollard becomes a solid starter, we will have one of the top 5-10 defenses next year.

DE's are set.
LB's are solid.
CB's - a little slow, but its a cover 2.
Safety's - we'll see.
DT's obviously still a weakness until the draft.

Could definitely use better depth though, especially at DE and CB.

Eric
03-17-2007, 12:50 AM
Why Boone over the other Bear freeagent Dtackle?

Halfcan
03-17-2007, 01:09 AM
We need to trade up and get Okoye.

bdeg
03-17-2007, 01:13 AM
If he falls past 15, which he probably will, I definitely agree.

Ebolapox
03-17-2007, 01:14 AM
Why Boone over the other Bear freeagent Dtackle?

cause he's cheaper?

beer bacon
03-17-2007, 01:17 AM
If he falls past 15, which he probably will, I definitely agree.

I bet Okoye goes in the top 10. He could pretty easily get picked ahead of Branch.

Halfcan
03-17-2007, 01:19 AM
I bet Okoye goes in the top 10. He could pretty easily get picked ahead of Branch.

Yep he is a bad ass.

Direckshun
03-17-2007, 01:25 AM
Ian Scott's going to demand a payday. We can't swing him, and for the pricetag he's asking for, he's got bust written all over him.

Chiefs made the right choice on a guy with experience, size, upside, and a smallish paycheck.

bdeg
03-17-2007, 01:29 AM
I dunno, teams may be worried that he is undersized. Didn't he weigh-in in the 280's or something?

Ebolapox
03-17-2007, 01:30 AM
I'm not sure how a guy who's 31 years old has that much upside

Halfcan
03-17-2007, 01:35 AM
You trade Trent, GWes, Simms, Bell, Hicks
and our #1 for their #9 pick.

Then you draft Okoye.

Direckshun
03-17-2007, 01:36 AM
I'm not sure how a guy who's 31 years old has that much upside
Scott?

He's #1 on the only FA board at DT I've seen (among UFAs only). He's really the only guy that commands attention on the market, so he'll do a lot better than what the Chiefs can pay, mark my words.

McKinley's #2 and nobody's really excited about him, though a couple teams are pretty interested in him, including us.

For all intensive purposes, Reed's #5.

Boone's #7.

Edward's #14.

Ebolapox
03-17-2007, 01:36 AM
and when you leave dream world, you realize that teams don't give that high of a pick away for spare parts

Direckshun
03-17-2007, 01:38 AM
I'm not sure how a guy who's 31 years old has that much upside
Lots of experience, including postseason experience, and he's finally getting a chance to start.

Assuming he starts.

If he doesn't start, we know what kind of production he's capable of.

unothadeal
03-17-2007, 01:47 AM
You trade Trent, GWes, Simms, Bell, Hicks
and our #1 for their #9 pick.

Then you draft Okoye.
I don't think it works like that. You can't give a whole bunch of shit players for a good one.

Ebolapox
03-17-2007, 01:48 AM
don't get me wrong... I want him and EVERY chief to produce. But when a guy reaches a certain age (and that's a different age for every position), there's only a certain amount of production that one can reasonably expect--and I'm not too sure how much we can expect out of a guy who is 31 years old playing defensive tackle. Sure, there are guys who are productive late into their careers and long past 30--but the majority are on their last legs by 30

Halfcan
03-17-2007, 01:50 AM
I don't think it works like that. You can't give a whole bunch of shit players for a good one.

Then you trade LJ to the Skins for their #5 pick. Use it to take Branch.

So you get Okoye and Branch for our D.

2nd round go CB.

Ebolapox
03-17-2007, 01:52 AM
Then you trade LJ to the Skins for their #5 pick. Use it to take Branch.

So you get Okoye and Branch for our D.

2nd round go CB.

they already have clinton portis. Why the f*ck would they want another feature running back?

unothadeal
03-17-2007, 01:53 AM
they already have clinton portis. Why the f*ck would they want another feature running back?
Well...for one thing they're the Redskins. But yeah Halfcan, you've got some ****ed up theories.

Halfcan
03-17-2007, 01:54 AM
Portis sucks-way overpaid-they trade him off like they want.

unothadeal
03-17-2007, 01:54 AM
Then you trade LJ to the Skins for their #5 pick. Use it to take Branch.

So you get Okoye and Branch for our D.

2nd round go CB.
I didn't know you could take 2 players with 1 pick. Heh. Learn something new everyday.

Pushead2
03-17-2007, 04:37 AM
It was a solid pickup, they went out and signed a run defensive minded tackle and he should know most of the tampa 2 schemes. I think the Chiefs got a good player for the money.

Bootlegged
03-17-2007, 07:10 AM
Good signing.

Coach
03-17-2007, 07:27 AM
The Chiefs have draft picks start......are you high?

If we have more than 1 I'd be shocked.....hell even as well as Page played last year he wasn't a full time starter......When's the last time we actually started more than 1 rookie?

Last year.

Hali.
Page (when he was given the oppiturnity to start, but he did get alot of playing time.)
Pollard (Special Teams.)

CoMoChief
03-17-2007, 07:42 AM
Well...for one thing they're the Redskins. But yeah Halfcan, you've got some ****ed up theories.

You're the one dreaming up of these potential trades like you're playing Madden in franchise mode.

Iowanian
03-17-2007, 08:40 AM
Not bad at all.

I watched several bears games and he did alright what I noticed....he played behind some pretty damn good starters, and I think would have started here last year for sure.

For those freaking out about the number of DTs on the team right now, remember that neither Reed nor Edwards were brought in until Summer.

There aren't any big splashes out there right now, but there are bodies and I'm sure after the draft, the Chiefs will be able to fill the holes.

So much for small, more agile Dts though eh.....I'd guess Boone and Edwards are rotating-fighting for the same position and the Chiefs will draft and bring in some undertackles.....Reed and whoever they draft.

bdeg
03-17-2007, 08:44 AM
And hopefully Wilkerson too.

Sure-Oz
03-17-2007, 08:55 AM
Good sign, we need guys fighting for starting spots, and this guy has played for a SB team and from a really good defense.

Mr. Laz
03-17-2007, 10:17 AM
isn't 7-8 million per year a lot for a guy who's never started a game?


just a question :shrug:

milkman
03-17-2007, 10:20 AM
isn't 7-8 million per year a lot for a guy who's never started a game?


just a question :shrug:

It's not 7-8 mil a year.
It's a 4 year contract for a total of 7-8 mil, with 1.5 guaranteed.

That's peanuts in this market.

el borracho
03-17-2007, 10:20 AM
isn't 7-8 million per year a lot for a guy who's never started a game?


just a question :shrug:
He gets between 7 and 8 million over 4 years.

RealSNR
03-17-2007, 10:27 AM
I have just 26 words to say:

Greg Wesley, Eric Hicks, Kendrell Bell, Dee Brown, Dante Hall, Samie Parker, Ryan Sims, William Bartee, and Casey Weigman to Oakland for the #1 overall pick.

milkman
03-17-2007, 10:29 AM
I have just 26 words to say:

Greg Wesley, Eric Hicks, Kendrell Bell, Dee Brown, Dante Hall, Samie Parker, Ryan Sims, William Bartee, and Casey Weigman to Oakland for the #1 overall pick.

I have just two words to say:

Won't happen.

Mr. Laz
03-17-2007, 10:29 AM
It's not 7-8 mil a year.
It's a 4 year contract for a total of 7-8 mil, with 1.5 guaranteed.

That's peanuts in this market.He gets between 7 and 8 million over 4 years.

well that makes a HUGE difference LMAO


i guess my brain was so used to seeing all these crazy contracts that my mind wouldn't let me read the article
correctly. :D

Easy 6
03-17-2007, 10:30 AM
Great. Time for Bears fans from another BB to come on here and tell us how Boone was responsible for all of Chicago's defensive struggles late in the season and how he will end up hurting us, not helping us.

HA, good call..."man you guys, sorry to hear that, he's the sole reason we lost the SB!!!". I think this is a good deal & the off-season as a whole has been good to go as well.

milkman
03-17-2007, 10:30 AM
well that makes a HUGE difference LMAO


i guess my brain was so used to seeing all these crazy contracts that my mind wouldn't let me read the article correctly. :D

Or you just simply hate Carl so much that your mind wouldn't allow it.

Mr. Laz
03-17-2007, 10:34 AM
Or you just simply hate Carl so much that your mind wouldn't allow it.
ya, that's it. :rolleyes:

Direckshun
03-17-2007, 11:00 AM
I have just 26 words to say:

Greg Wesley, Eric Hicks, Kendrell Bell, Dee Brown, Dante Hall, Samie Parker, Ryan Sims, William Bartee, and Casey Weigman to Oakland for the #1 overall pick.
You're an idiot and should probably die.

unothadeal
03-17-2007, 11:02 AM
You're the one dreaming up of these potential trades like you're playing Madden in franchise mode.
:hmmm:

milkman
03-17-2007, 11:04 AM
:hmmm:

Your user name and Halfwit's are so similiar that it's easy to confuse them.

unothadeal
03-17-2007, 11:06 AM
Your user name and Halfwit's are so similiar that it's easy to confuse them.
Uncalled for

milkman
03-17-2007, 11:08 AM
Uncalled for

What?

I was being sarcastic in making fun of CMC.

crazycoffey
03-17-2007, 11:10 AM
I have just 26 words to say:

Greg Wesley, Eric Hicks, Kendrell Bell, Dee Brown, Dante Hall, Samie Parker, Ryan Sims, William Bartee, and Casey Weigman to Oakland for the #1 overall pick.


put trent green in there too....

splatbass
03-17-2007, 11:22 AM
I have just 26 words to say:

Greg Wesley, Eric Hicks, Kendrell Bell, Dee Brown, Dante Hall, Samie Parker, Ryan Sims, William Bartee, and Casey Weigman to Oakland for the #1 overall pick.

Al Davis would have to be the stupidest man in football to fall for that one.

He might just do it.... :)

milkman
03-17-2007, 11:30 AM
Al Davis would have to be the stupidest man in football to fall for that one.

He might just do it.... :)

Al might well be the stupidest man in football, though Matt Millon would give him a run for his money, but he woudn't make that deal.

He hates the Chiefs and will not negoiate with them.

crazycoffey
03-17-2007, 11:39 AM
well, then let's offer the same deal to the Lions and Browns, I'd be good with that.....







actually I'm not high on the higher draft picks, seems they bust more often than they pan out, and cost alot of money to find out.

milkman
03-17-2007, 11:56 AM
well, then let's offer the same deal to the Lions and Browns, I'd be good with that.....







actually I'm not high on the higher draft picks, seems they bust more often than they pan out, and cost alot of money to find out.

My dream draft day scenario would be Amobi Okoye sitting there when the Pack are on the clock at #16, trading LJ and our first round (#23) pick to them for the #16 pick and their second rounder (#47).

That seems like a reasonable trade.

Ebolapox
03-17-2007, 11:59 AM
there's no way I'd make that trade

bdeg
03-17-2007, 12:07 PM
You guys really aren't very good at recognizing sarcasm on here.

bdeg
03-17-2007, 12:09 PM
My dream draft day scenario would be Amobi Okoye sitting there when the Pack are on the clock at #16, trading LJ and our first round (#23) pick to them for the #16 pick and their second rounder (#47).

That seems like a reasonable trade.

I think we could trade LJ straight up for their pick.

crazycoffey
03-17-2007, 12:10 PM
You guys really aren't very good at recognizing sarcasm on here.


yeah, it's tough to hear a sarcastic tone on an internet BB.

Try ending your sentence with :p or [/end sarcasim] that will clear it all up.


Dickweed :p


(see)

milkman
03-17-2007, 12:13 PM
I think we could trade LJ straight up for their pick.

Even if true, my trade gives us an extra pick.

bdeg
03-17-2007, 12:14 PM
yeah, it's tough to hear a sarcastic tone on an internet BB.

Try ending your sentence with :p or [/end sarcasim] that will clear it all up.


Dickweed :p


(see)

I didn't mean any of my posts, just other people keep coming up with these ridiculous trade that are obviously jokes (I hope......), and people are taking them seriously.

bdeg
03-17-2007, 12:15 PM
Even if true, my trade gives us an extra pick.

No it doesn't..... It's what I proposed, plus our first rounder for their second.

Ebolapox
03-17-2007, 12:15 PM
you haven't been here long, have you bdeg? most of them are serious--that's the truly sad part

Ebolapox
03-17-2007, 12:16 PM
No it doesn't..... It's what I proposed, plus our first rounder for their second.

technically he's right. we swap firsts and get a second in the process--that's two picks for one

crazycoffey
03-17-2007, 12:20 PM
I didn't mean any of my posts, just other people keep coming up with these ridiculous trade that are obviously jokes (I hope......), and people are taking them seriously.


well, I know I responded to a few weird trade ideas, but I wasn't being serious either. This isn't a job where you give 100% of your best ideas all the time, sometimes you just F off to have fun, play along with a weird idea, and then work it through to a few other possibilities, and just be silly.

Like trading LJ, I really doubt this happens, for what ever number of reasons you want to come up with. But it is fun playing with the ideas, from the more serious likely trades (if CP and LJ were wanting trades) and then the extremes.

bdeg
03-17-2007, 12:21 PM
I was referring more to people refuting the idea of trading all our scraps for a top pick. Pretty sure that last one was a joke with the 15 players going to oakland.

And I never meant to single you or anyone else out crazycoffey.

bdeg
03-17-2007, 12:26 PM
technically he's right. we swap firsts and get a second in the process--that's two picks for one

I'm a little confused on this too. Are you saying I was right or he was?

Both trades would have us gain a pick for LJ.

I just don't think we'd need to send them our first for their second for added value.

crazycoffey
03-17-2007, 12:28 PM
I was referring more to people refuting the idea of trading all our scraps for a top pick. Pretty sure that last one was a joke with the 15 players going to oakland.

And I never meant to single you or anyone else out crazycoffey.



Oh, we are totally cool, I didn't feel singled out. Just felt compelled to converse with you on the topic.

I know with my first couple of thousand posts (two months ago) I had a hard time saying something sarcastic or trying to be funny and it got taken out of context. So now I put :p at the end of anything I say that is supposed to be even slightly funny.

It seemed to work.....

milkman
03-17-2007, 12:31 PM
I'm a little confused on this too. Are you saying I was right or he was?

Both trades would have us gain a pick for LJ.

I just don't think we'd need to send them our first for their second for added value.

Actually, you're right.

My bad.

I wasn't thinking, except that I didn't believe that the Pack would trade their first for LJ straight up.

Ebolapox
03-17-2007, 12:32 PM
I'm a little confused on this too. Are you saying I was right or he was?

Both trades would have us gain a pick for LJ.

I just don't think we'd need to send them our first for their second for added value.

if we're being technical, you're BOTH right

in his scenario (and probably the most realistic, though barely), we send our first and LJ for their first and second round picks.

in your scenario, we trade LJ for their first round pick.

I'd prefer your scenario if we DID trade LJ-- however, since running backs apparently aren't worth sh*t on this market, his would more likely happen.

milkman
03-17-2007, 12:33 PM
if we're being technical, you're BOTH right

in his scenario (and probably the most realistic, though barely), we send our first and LJ for their first and second round picks.

in your scenario, we trade LJ for their first round pick.

I'd prefer your scenario if we DID trade LJ-- however, since running backs apparently aren't worth sh*t on this market, his would more likely happen.

I actually agree with everything you're saying here.

I'm trying to stretch it a little bit.

bdeg
03-17-2007, 12:35 PM
I would rather have LJ that Adrian Peterson. Anyone disagree with me on this?

And I realize that, h5n1, it's just that he said he would get an extra pick in his trade, I was just trying to explain that that was wrong.

Mecca
03-17-2007, 12:41 PM
I would rather have LJ that Adrian Peterson. Anyone disagree with me on this?

And I realize that, h5n1, it's just that he said he would get an extra pick in his trade, I was just trying to explain that that was wrong.

I disagree........Peterson is more naturally talented while not having the age or number of carries. RB is a young mans position.

The Pack would never trade 16 for LJ because if they needed a RB that bad they could just pick a younger cheaper one with more years left with that pick.

bdeg
03-17-2007, 12:44 PM
I disagree........Peterson is more naturally talented while not having the age or number of carries. RB is a young mans position.

The Pack would never trade 16 for LJ because if they needed a RB that bad they could just pick a younger cheaper one with more years left with that pick.

That's fair enough. I'd be a lot more worried about his durability than most teams/mocks seem to be. I could see them making the trade though as they want to give Favre as many weapons for his last couple years as they can. Either way, Peterson will be gone, so if they have RB as a high priority, it may be Marshawn Lynch or LJ.

milkman
03-17-2007, 12:47 PM
That's fair enough. I'd be a lot more worried about his durability than most teams/mocks seem to be. I could see them making the trade though as they want to give Favre as many weapons for his last couple years as they can. Either way, Peterson will be gone, so if they have RB as a high priority, it may be Marshawn Lynch or LJ.

My bet would be Lynch.

I'm just fantasizing.

Mecca
03-17-2007, 12:48 PM
if you trade for LJ you are going to have to give him a huge contract.......did you see what the Ravens gave McGahee. I'd rather draft one than pay one that kinda money.

beer bacon
03-17-2007, 01:22 PM
technically he's right. we swap firsts and get a second in the process--that's two picks for one

If we just traded LJ we would have the 23 instead of the 47. It isn't going to happen anyways, but with both trades we would have the same number of picks. 23 is quite a bit better then 47.

GoHuge
03-17-2007, 01:36 PM
Well if Chicago put him out there in their rotation that says something to me. He played behind some outstanding tackles. Hopefully he'll show up and really get after it knowing he is the starter. I've looked at his stats and it seems the main reason he hasn't gotten more playing time is because of the talent in front of him, which is argueably some of the best tackles in the NFL.

I guess after Sims, Saivii, Freeman, I am so starved of decent tackle play I'm really hoping this guy turns into one of those "I just needed a chance to show what I can do" and just turns into a real ass kicker. He's a big dude, but so was Saivii and suck ass Sims. I guess we'll see, but I like the signing.

Direckshun
03-17-2007, 10:49 PM
I disagree........Peterson is more naturally talented while not having the age or number of carries. RB is a young mans position.

The Pack would never trade 16 for LJ because if they needed a RB that bad they could just pick a younger cheaper one with more years left with that pick.
I disagree. The Pack were going to pursue Tony G with extreme perseverence if the Chiefs had let him get to the market.

They're doing that because they think they can win now. They turned in a solid 8-8 season and they think they're primed to make serious playoff runs in the next couple years. If they'd fork cash for Tony G, they'd fork it for a 27 yr old primier RB.

Rausch
03-17-2007, 11:59 PM
I disagree. The Pack were going to pursue Tony G with extreme perseverence if the Chiefs had let him get to the market.

They're doing that because they think they can win now.

WTF could possibly lead them to believe they could win anytime soon?...

Direckshun
03-18-2007, 12:16 AM
Weak NFC, especially a weak NFC North featuring a Bears team weakened by departing free agents. Young resurgent defense, young talent is finally panning out and old incumbent players are finally getting bounced (except for you know who).

The Pack wants to win now. They felt that Tony G was going to be one of the final pieces of their puzzle for a playoff-bound team. It's possible they could feel the same way about LJ.

HolmeZz
03-18-2007, 12:22 AM
WTF could possibly lead them to believe they could win anytime soon?...

That they play in the NFC.

SPchief
03-18-2007, 12:24 AM
Weak NFC, especially a weak NFC North featuring a Bears team weakened by departing free agents. Young resurgent defense, young talent is finally panning out and old incumbent players are finally getting bounced (except for you know who).

The Pack wants to win now. They felt that Tony G was going to be one of the final pieces of their puzzle for a playoff-bound team. It's possible they could feel the same way about LJ.


If the Packers wanted to win now, Farve wouldn't be on the team.

Bugeater
03-18-2007, 12:33 AM
If the Packers wanted to win now, Farve wouldn't be on the team.
Keep ****ing doubting the ol' gunslinger!









:rolleyes:

TRR
03-18-2007, 12:34 AM
It seems that both Boone and Ian Scott were after-thoughts to the Bears organization. There wasn't even a post on the Bears forum I visited about Boone signing with KC.

Hopefully we can expect a decent season out of Boone, but from what I gather, he won't be any more productive than Ron Edwards or James Reed were last season.

unothadeal
03-18-2007, 12:37 AM
Is there any truth to this or is someone on here talking out there ass?

Easy 6
03-18-2007, 12:51 AM
Keep ****ing doubting the ol' gunslinger!









:rolleyes:

I think your wrong o' cycnical one, he just needs players like all the rest of'em, Favre can still rip your guts out...but even the greatest Generals need an army.

The guy is still deadly...

Direckshun
03-18-2007, 02:30 AM
If the Packers wanted to win now, Farve wouldn't be on the team.
Your opinion. Not the Pack's.

unothadeal
03-18-2007, 02:46 AM
If the Packers wanted to win now, Farve wouldn't be on the team.
Do you honestly think that the Packers just don't want to win? Like they're holding back and will unleash the SB team in 2010.