Raiders| Team joins mix of teams in pursuit of Green

[blackhawk]

Raiders| Team joins mix of teams in pursuit of Green
Wed, 28 Mar 2007 20:57:19 -0700

Edgar Thompson, of the Palm Beach Post, reports the Oakland Raiders have joined the mix of teams in pursuit of Kansas City QB Trent Green.

[Iowanian]

Excellent. Drive the price up.

[blackhawk]

oops my bad!
Browns | Team joins mix of teams in pursuit of Green
Wed, 28 Mar 2007 20:57:19 -0700

Edgar Thompson, of the Palm Beach Post, reports the Cleveland Browns have joined the mix of teams in pursuit of Kansas City QB Trent Green.

[Direckshun]

Eeeeeeeeeeeeexcellent.

4th rounder here we come.

[SLAG]

Eeeeeeeeeeeeexcellent.

4th rounder here we come.


That would bring our 4th Round total to 1

[Mr. Plow]

Must be why Carl was holding off on the trade to Miami. Get some other teams interested, drive the price up a bit.

[HemiEd]

oops my bad!
Browns | Team joins mix of teams in pursuit of Green
Wed, 28 Mar 2007 20:57:19 -0700

Edgar Thompson, of the Palm Beach Post, reports the Cleveland Browns have joined the mix of teams in pursuit of Kansas City QB Trent Green.

Wow, that is like night and day difference.

[Direckshun]

That would bring our 4th Round total to 1
Thanks, Count.

[carlos3652]

LOL, already mentioned in the main Trent thread on the first page and it looks like Carl told the media that the Browns were in, while on Monday (2 days earlier) the GM of the Browns told the media that they would not aquire a QB by trade or Free agency. Only Draft.

[carlos3652]

http://chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?p=3869622#post3869622

[Brock]

That would bring our 4th Round total to 1

that's a lot better than none.

[Kylo Ren]

oops my bad!
Browns | Team joins mix of teams in pursuit of Green
Wed, 28 Mar 2007 20:57:19 -0700

Edgar Thompson, of the Palm Beach Post, reports the Cleveland Browns have joined the mix of teams in pursuit of Kansas City QB Trent Green. ......jackass! :mad:

[percysnow]

am I the only one who wants to keep Trent?

[Bill Lundberg]

oops my bad!
Browns | Team joins mix of teams in pursuit of Green
Wed, 28 Mar 2007 20:57:19 -0700

Edgar Thompson, of the Palm Beach Post, reports the Cleveland Browns have joined the mix of teams in pursuit of Kansas City QB Trent Green.


NUTHOOKS

[keg in kc]

Excellent. Drive the price up.Yep. Every team that enters the mix is good for us.

[el borracho]

am I the only one who wants to keep Trent?
No. In fact these ladies are looking for a fourth for their bridge tournament.

http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:oR-agMyYU3CndM:http://www.chairmanmoo.co.uk/images/news/dying.jpg

Just keep driving that price up!

[BigMeatballDave]

am I the only one who wants to keep Trent?Its not that we want to get rid of him, it is just time to get younger at the position.

[percysnow]

yeah but we dont have a good younger guy now. . u dont get rid of ur junk car until u get that new car. . .and I wouldnt evwen go as far as to call trent junk. .. he got injured bad and had a bad year. . he still is a great QB

[Chief Chief]

Oakland? No, Cleveland...

Next, it'll be England, then Ireland, Scotland, and Finland...

[Redrum_69]

Falcons| Team joins mix of teams in pursuit of Green
Thurs, 29 Mar 2007 9:57:19 -0700

Edgar Thompson, of the Palm Beach Post, reports the Atlanta Falcons have joined the mix of teams in pursuit of Kansas City QB Trent Green.

[HemiEd]

am I the only one who wants to keep Trent?

No, I do. But havn't you learned? If he is a Chief he sucks and is worth nothing. All other players are headed to the HOF.

[Sully]

United| Team joins mix of teams in pursuit of Green
Thurs, 29 Mar 2007 9:57:19 -0700

Edgar Thompson, of the Palm Beach Post, reports the Manchester United have joined the mix of teams in pursuit of Kansas City QB Trent Green.

[Chief Chief]

...to be followed by Iceland, Greenland, Swaziland, Jutland, and Disneyland...

[Coogs]

yeah but we dont have a good younger guy now. . u dont get rid of ur junk car until u get that new car. . .and I wouldnt evwen go as far as to call trent junk. .. he got injured bad and had a bad year. . he still is a great QB

Are you sure? Herm likes what he sees out of Croyle.

[carlos3652]

United| Team joins mix of teams in pursuit of Green
Thurs, 29 Mar 2007 9:57:19 -0700

Edgar Thompson, of the Palm Beach Post, reports the Manchester United have joined the mix of teams in pursuit of Kansas City QB Trent Green.

ROFL

[percysnow]

did u see Croyle play last year. . i know it wasnt a fair shot but to base ur entire team on that. . no thanks. .

[percysnow]

and as for huard. . .i really wasnt impresswed. . IMO he did just enough not to lose. . .

[penguinz]

and as for huard. . .i really wasnt impresswed. . IMO he did just enough not to lose. . .Which is better then Trent managed to do. ;)

[Chief Chief]

and as for huard. . .i really wasnt impresswed. . IMO he did just enough not to lose. . .

Is it not ironic that those last 4 words of yours just so happen to directly and exactly reflect Herm's plan to win?

[Chief Chief]

Oops..make it last 5 words...

[DaneMcCloud]

am I the only one who wants to keep Trent?

Yes.

[Brock]

yeah but we dont have a good younger guy now. .

How do u know that?

[suds79]

did u see Croyle play last year. . i know it wasnt a fair shot but to base ur entire team on that. . no thanks. .

Exactly like you said. It wasn't a fair shot.

Besides, what rookie QB doesn't get rocked? They all have to go through it.

It's pretty much our only option. Huard could win the starting job but this team will never be a consistent playoff contender behind him or the post-concussion Trent Green.

Gotta rebuild the team around some young players. If Croyle is the guy, great! If not, then we have to keep looking.

[percysnow]

How do u know that?

i only go off of what I've witnessed with my eyes, and it hasnt been good. .

[percysnow]

Exactly like you said. It wasn't a fair shot.

Besides, what rookie QB doesn't get rocked? They all have to go through it.

It's pretty much our only option. Huard could win the starting job but this team will never be a consistent playoff contender behind him or the post-concussion Trent Green.

Gotta rebuild the team around some young players. If Croyle is the guy, great! If not, then we have to keep looking.


so ur saying we build this team around Croyle??????holy shit that is a risk. . a stupid risk . . i hope Im wrong

[OnTheWarpath15]

so ur saying we build this team around Croyle??????holy shit that is a risk. . a stupid risk . . i hope Im wrong

And people thought Bill Walsh was a moron for drafting Joe Montana with the last pick of the Third Round back in 1979. And making him the starter in 1980.

Last I checked, it worked out pretty well.

Tom Brady was a R6 (?) pick.

Tim Couch is out of the league, I think.

Draft position is not a determining factor in how good/bad a guy is gonna be.

Neither is attempting 7 passes in mop-up duty.

Give the kid a ****ing chance.

[percysnow]

And people thought Bill Walsh was a moron for drafting Joe Montana with the last pick of the Third Round back in 1979. And making him the starter in 1980.

Last I checked, it worked out pretty well.

Tom Brady was a R6 (?) pick.

Tim Couch is out of the league, I think.

Draft position is not a determining factor in how good/bad a guy is gonna be.

Neither is attempting 7 passes in mop-up duty.

Give the kid a ****ing chance.

wow so in 27 years u have 2 examples. . good odds. . .

[Wile_E_Coyote]

Head-On| Team joins mix of teams in pursuit of Green
Wed, 28 Mar 2007 20:57:19 -0700

Edgar Thompson, of the Palm Beach Post, reports the makers of Head-On have joined the mix of teams in pursuit of Kansas City QB Trent Green.

[OnTheWarpath15]

wow so in 27 years u have 2 examples. . good odds. . .


Are you related to KCChiefsfan88?

[Redrum_69]

N.A.S.A| Team joins mix of teams in pursuit of Green Thurs, 29 Mar 2007 10:57:19 -0700

Edgar Thompson, of the Palm Beach Post, reports that N.A.S.A has joined the mix of teams in pursuit of Kansas City QB Trent Green.

[blackhawk]

green for moss!
git-r-done.

[BigMeatballDave]

Yakult| Team joins mix of teams in pursuit of Green
Thurs, 29 Mar 2007 9:57:19 -0700

Edgar Thompson, of the Palm Beach Post, reports the Yakult Swallows have joined the mix of teams in pursuit of Kansas City QB Trent Green.

[BigMeatballDave]

so ur saying we build this team around Croyle??????holy shit that is a risk. . a stupid risk . . i hope Im wrongYou have no clue. None of us do. I am glad Herm is looking into that this season.

[teedubya]

I think percysnow is the new crazycoffey

[luv]

Don't get me wrong, I love Tent, but why would so many teams want him? He's coming off of a rocky end of a season in which he was injured during most of. Isn't he getting old? How many years do people think he has left? What kind of contract can he look at getting?

[ChiefsCountry]

Why are people concerned about Croyle being the starter? He was a fine QB at Alabama and made that team better. It was a pretty sorry team that he carried. Most scouts had him as a first round talent but due to injuries in his past and his build made him slip to the 3rd.

[percysnow]

http://i11.tinypic.com/49kxm9s.jpg

[percysnow]

lets not forget what Trent has done over the years with sub-par(at best) recievers. . .

[Direckshun]

http://i11.tinypic.com/49kxm9s.jpg
God I bet it hurt King like hell to write that article.

[orange]

lets not forget what Trent has done over the years with sub-par(at best) recievers. . .


His WIDE RECEIVERS were sub-par, but overall the Chiefs had great receivers - Tony Gonzales, Priest Holmes and Tony Richardson were/are deluxe, and they carried Trent Green.

[CoMoChief]

Eeeeeeeeeeeeexcellent.

4th rounder here we come.

Id rather have 2, 3rd round picks. :p

[JohninGpt]

God I bet it hurt King like hell to write that article.
Not at all. You notice the (So Far) underneath. He jinxed it.(Prick)

[Crush]

Definitely nuthooks.

[rad]

Rough Riders| Team joins mix of teams in pursuit of Green
Thurs, 29 Mar 2007 9:57:19 -0700

Edgar Thompson, of the Palm Beach Post, reports the Saskatchewan Rough Riders have joined the mix of teams in pursuit of Kansas City QB Trent Green.

[milkman]

wow so in 27 years u have 2 examples. . good odds. . .

Trent was an 8th rounder.
Favre was a second rounder.
Kurt Warner a grocery bagger.
Matt Hasselbeck a 6th rounder.
Jake Delhomme an undrafted FA.

There's probably more, but these are just off the top of my head.

[Simplex3]

That would bring our 4th Round total to 1

[Direckshun]

Appropriations | Committee joins mix of teams in pursuit of Green
Thurs, 29 Mar 2007 9:57:19 -0700

Edgar Thompson, of the Palm Beach Post, reports the Appropriations Committee of the House of Representatives have joined the mix of teams in pursuit of Kansas City QB Trent Green.

[Sam Hall]

Would it be considered bad protocol if Carl didn't answer the phone when the Raiders call?

[Redrum_69]

PETA| Team joins mix of teams in pursuit of Green
Fri, 30 Mar 2007 7:57:19 -0700

Edgar Thompson, of the Palm Beach Post, reports that PETA has joined the mix of teams in pursuit of Kansas City QB Trent Green.

[percysnow]

Trent was an 8th rounder.
Favre was a second rounder.
Kurt Warner a grocery bagger.
Matt Hasselbeck a 6th rounder.
Jake Delhomme an undrafted FA.

There's probably more, but these are just off the top of my head.

wow so these 5 exzamples in NFL history means we should put our entire season on some unproven bums shoulders. . alot of the above mentioned waited years before they got there start or were forced in by injury. .u dont just build a team around a guy like croyle. . he needs a couple of years to work behind someone. .

[Brock]

.u dont just build a team around a guy like croyle. . he needs a couple of years to work behind someone. .

u mean like what he's been getting for the last year or so....

[ct]

wow so these 5 exzamples in NFL history means we should put our entire season on some unproven bums shoulders. . alot of the above mentioned waited years before they got there start or were forced in by injury. .u dont just build a team around a guy like croyle. . he needs a couple of years to work behind someone. .

Though it would be a fun excercise to review all the current, somewhat projected, starting QBs in the NFL, and where they were originally drafted.

BUF JP Losman, 1st, but shouldn't have been
MIA Culpepper, 1st, traded from original team
NEP Brady, 6th, 3 SB rings
NYJ Pennington, 1st
BAL McNair, 1st, traded from original team
CIN Palmer, 1st overall
CLE Frye, 3rd, or Anderson, UDFA, (potential high QB selection)
PIT Roethlisberger, 1st
HOU Schaub, 3rd, traded from original team
IND P. Manning, 1st overall, 1 SB ring
JAX Leftwich, 1st, might be fighting for this job
TEN Young, 1st
DEN Cutler, 1st
KC Croyle, 3rd
OAK Walters, 3rd, (potential high QB selection)
SD Rivers, 1st, traded on draft day, kind of a technicality tho
DAL Romo, UDFA
NYG E. Manning, 1st overall, traded on draft day, kind of a technicality tho
PHI McNabb, 1st
WAS Campbell, 1st, but shouldn't have been
CHI Grossman, 1st, but shouldn't have been
DET Kitna, UDFA, (potential high QB selection)
MIN Jackson, 2nd, (potential high QB selection)
ATL Vick, 1st overall
CAR Delhomme, UDFA, traded from original team
NO Brees, 2nd, FA signee
TB Garcia, CFL, FA signee
ARI Leinart, 1st
STL Bulger, UDFA
SF Smith, 1st overall
SEA Hassellbeck, 6th, traded from original team

[Mile High Mania]

What if the Raiders were the team with the best offer? Would you take a Raiders 4th as opposed to a 6th by any other team?

[Wile_E_Coyote]

a Raiders' 4th is a pretty darn high pick :hmmm:

[blackhawk]

forget the pick take randy moss even trade for green!
Raiders | Moss not in attendance
Fri, 30 Mar 2007 08:13:26 -0700

MediaNews reports Oakland Raiders WR Randy Moss has not been in attendance for the team's offseason conditioning program.

[milkman]

wow so these 5 exzamples in NFL history means we should put our entire season on some unproven bums shoulders. . alot of the above mentioned waited years before they got there start or were forced in by injury. .u dont just build a team around a guy like croyle. . he needs a couple of years to work behind someone. .

No dumbass.

Those are only 5 examples of current, or very recent, starting QBs that either led their teams to a SB, or been very productive.

Bart Starr was a 17th round pick.
Johnny U was a semi-pro QB.
Len Dawson, although a a first round pick, didn't get his chance until the AFL came calling.
Warren Moon, undrafted.
Dan Fouts, 3rd round.
Ken Stabler, 2nd round.

Again, these are just off the top of my head.

You could do some research and find plenty more.

Only an idiot who doesn't have a ****ing clue thinks that only first round draft picks are the only QBs who succeed in the NFL.

And just so we're clear, dumbass, I'm calling you an idiot without a ****ing clue.

[crazycoffey]

What if the Raiders were the team with the best offer? Would you take a Raiders 4th as opposed to a 6th by any other team?


Yes, a trade of green to the raiders will only hurt us for a year or two at the tops, and we could do well with thier fourth, it's almost as good as a three.

[crazycoffey]

Though it would be a fun excercise to review all the current, somewhat projected, starting QBs in the NFL, and where they were originally drafted.

BUF JP Losman, 1st, but shouldn't have been
MIA Culpepper, 1st, traded from original team
NEP Brady, 6th, 3 SB rings
NYJ Pennington, 1st
BAL McNair, 1st, traded from original team
CIN Palmer, 1st overall
CLE Frye, 3rd, or Anderson, UDFA, (potential high QB selection)
PIT Roethlisberger, 1st
HOU Schaub, 3rd, traded from original team
IND P. Manning, 1st overall, 1 SB ring
JAX Leftwich, 1st, might be fighting for this job
TEN Young, 1st
DEN Cutler, 1st
KC Croyle, 3rd
OAK Walters, 3rd, (potential high QB selection)
SD Rivers, 1st, traded on draft day, kind of a technicality tho
DAL Romo, UDFA
NYG E. Manning, 1st overall, traded on draft day, kind of a technicality tho
PHI McNabb, 1st
WAS Campbell, 1st, but shouldn't have been
CHI Grossman, 1st, but shouldn't have been
DET Kitna, UDFA, (potential high QB selection)
MIN Jackson, 2nd, (potential high QB selection)
ATL Vick, 1st overall
CAR Delhomme, UDFA, traded from original team
NO Brees, 2nd, FA signee
TB Garcia, CFL, FA signee
ARI Leinart, 1st
STL Bulger, UDFA
SF Smith, 1st overall
SEA Hassellbeck, 6th, traded from original team


good information..... Still hard to believe Brady was a six......

[Chief Roundup]

We at least got confirmation from the browns GM now.
Browns | Savage confirms interest in Green
Fri, 30 Mar 2007 09:20:14 -0700

Mary Kay Cabot, of the Cleveland Plain Dealer, reports Cleveland Browns general manager Phil Savage confirmed Thursday, March 29, that he has spoken with the Kansas City Chiefs regarding QB Trent Green. In an e-mail response, Savage said the team's inquiry was "due diligence to check on a player who might be able to help us. Nothing imminent at this time."