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blueballs
04-06-2007, 10:18 PM
may be updated in thread title daily

day #22 1985
http://www.nfl.com/draft/history/years/1985
see post #4 Ethan Horton

day #21 1986
http://www.nfl.com/draft/history/years/1986
pic in post #13

--You will notice there was no #1 pick in 1986
this link shows Bo Jackson going to Tampa Bay
http://en.allexperts.com/e/0/1986_nfl_draft.htm
see post #15

day #20 1987
http://www.nfl.com/draft/history/years/1987
Who says the CHiefs can't draft 2nd rounders?
'86 Dino Hackett-'87 Christian Okoye(pic post #17)

--notables- 4th pick in 4th-14th pick in 4th-
-7th pick in 7th-CP poster 10th in the 10th
see post #17

day #19(mon) 1988
this link breaks it down differently than the previous ones
http://www.profootballhof.com/history/story.jsp?story_id=2022

--second pick in 1st Neil Smith-3rd in 9th Azizuddin Abdur-Ra'Oof WR
but see post #18 for the 2cnd pick in the 6th

day #18 1989
http://www.nfl.com/draft/history/years/1989
And a new era in Chiefs football begins
Peterson, Schottenheimer and the 4th pick in the '89 draft
#1 Troy Aikman
#2 Tony Mandarch-see post #20
#3 Barry Sanders
#4 Derrick Thomas-pic in post #21
#5 Deon Sanders

day #17 1990
http://www.nfl.com/draft/history/years/1990
after selecting a Butkus Award winner the previous year(D.T.). The Chiefs pick another with the overall 13th pick. Percy Snow. Snow had a solid rookie season, but was hurt in training camp the following year. Two stories I came across, he was hurt a) racing golf carts or b) on a moped. Snow was never the same and the Chiefs would not select another Butkus Award winner for 15 years.

--see post #24 for a couple of great picks in 1990

day #16 1991
http://www.nfl.com/draft/history/years/1991
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

day #15 1992
http://www.nfl.com/draft/history/years/1992
with the 20th pick in the draft the Chiefs selection becomes the 1992
NFL defensive rookie of the year

day #14 1993
http://www.nfl.com/draft/history/years/1993
A push for the Super Bowl -see post #27

day #13 1994
http://www.nfl.com/draft/history/years/1994
7 rounds 10 picks and freaking headache for me
post #27

day #12(MON) 1995
http://www.nfl.com/draft/history/years/1995
the downward trend in draft picks sinks lower-sigh
a rotten first pick and the second round? one of the worst trades in team history
post #32

Before moving on to the 1996 draft. Herm Edwards was a scout for 90-91 seasons. DB coach 92-94. Pro Personnel Scout in 1995. He moved on to Tampa for the 1996 season.

day #11 1996
http://www.nfl.com/draft/history/years/1996
[Harry Caray voice] HOLY COW! [/Harry Caray voice]
What a mother****ing draft this was -see post 33

day #10 1997
http://www.nfl.com/draft/history/years/1997
Gonzo see post #34

day #9 1998
http://www.nfl.com/draft/history/years/1998
Schottenheimer's last KC draft
see post 35

day #8 1999
http://www.nfl.com/draft/history/years/1999
Just Shut the **** Up and Sit The **** Down
and check out post 36

day #7 2000
http://www.nfl.com/draft/history/years/2000
In the year 2000 -see post 38

day #6 2001
http://www.nfl.com/draft/history/years/2001
The Dick Vermeil era begins -see post 39

day #5(mon) 2002
http://www.nfl.com/draft/history/years/2002
DTs back to back and some SI yahoos thoughts -see post 40

day #4 2003
http://www.nfl.com/draft/history/years/2003
Julian battle - Jordan Black - Willie Pile -see post 41

day #3 2004
http://www.nfl.com/draft/history/years/2004
4th year of Vermeil drafts-see post 43

day #2 2005
http://www.nfl.com/draft/history/years/2005
Vermeil final draft as a Chief was not bad -see post 44

day #1 2006
http://www.nfl.com/draft/history/years/2006
And the Herm Edwards era begins -see post 49

2007
and the Dwayne Bowe era begins -see post 51

Pitt Gorilla
04-06-2007, 10:21 PM
may be updated in thread title daily

day #22 1985
http://www.nfl.com/draft/history/years/1985We sure dodged a bullet not drafting that Rice guy.

rad
04-06-2007, 10:26 PM
No QB's in the first round that year. I wonder how many times that happened.

blueballs
04-06-2007, 10:30 PM
KC #15

http://www.nflacarolinas.org/bios/EHorton.htm

ETHAN S. HORTON
Ethan Horton is a television broadcast analyst for Fox Sports Net South and the Carolina Panthers. In his role with Fox Sports Net, Horton serves as a color analyst for college football. The Carolina Panthers signed him for the 2003-04 pre-season to provide game analysis and commentary and during the regular season as co-host of the Panthers Post Game Wrap up Show. In addition, Urban Sports and Entertainment will feature Horton as host for its Major Black College Sports Weekly program.

Horton began his career in football as a standout quarterback for A.L. Brown High School In Kannapolis, N.C. From there, Horton went on to the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill where he won accolades as a first-team AII-ACC running back and 1984 ACC Player of the Year, In 1985, Horton was the 15th overall pick in the NFL draft. He was a running back for the NFL's Kansas City Chiefs ('85) and was a highly decorated tight end with the Los Angeles Raiders ('87, '89-'93) and Washington Redskins ('94). Horton's skills as a tight end were recognized by the NFL by naming him to the Pro Bowl in 1992.

Horton's football experience, coupled with collegiate training in Communications, launched his career in radio and television broadcasting. Listeners in the Charlotte-metro area have experienced Horton's quick wit and lively debates on a number of WFNZ Radio's sports programs including. Prime Time, The Players Club, and Weekend Warriors. Prior to joining WFNZ, Horton served as a sports studio analyst for WCGB Fox 18 TV. Horton's broadcasting roster also includes hosting post-game shows for Carolina Panthers games.

Horton is a member of the UNC Board of Visitors, serves on the UNC Educational Foundation Board of Directors and a board member of the Charlotte-Mecklenburg Board of Mental Health, and Alexander Youth Network. As a member of First Baptist Church-West, Horton ensures he balances religious, family, civic and work responsibilities.

Horton and his wife, Lawanda, live in the Charlotte area with their two sons, Jay and Kyle.

The Franchise
04-06-2007, 10:41 PM
85 Minnesota Buster Rhymes WR Oklahoma

I didn't know Busta played football...

CoMoChief
04-07-2007, 12:17 AM
Well no wonder we sucked in the 80's. Drafting 2 TE's with the first 2 picks?!?!?

Some may remember this but I was only 2 at the time.

Halfcan
04-07-2007, 12:45 AM
How many days til Carl crushes our dreams?

Halfcan
04-07-2007, 12:45 AM
REACH

I wanted to be the first to say it.

TinyEvel
04-07-2007, 01:24 AM
Dude, this may be even more pathetic than my "88 days until football season" thread from last year.

Good luck

--TinyE

The Bad Guy
04-07-2007, 01:29 AM
The fact that the Chiefs took TE's in the first and 2nd round is so laughable it's not even funny.

Mel Kiper might go into a seizure if that happened this year.

SPchief
04-07-2007, 01:46 AM
How many days til Carl crushes our dreams?


Our drafts have been terrible the last 4 years.

JohnnyV13
04-07-2007, 05:01 AM
uh...

We drafted Horton as a running back. He was later switched to TE. Horton was actualy the highest rated back in the 85 draft.

blueballs
04-07-2007, 10:04 AM
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Coogs
04-07-2007, 10:10 AM
I know this is a little off topic, but I just saw a piece on
ESPN where the Raiders are maybe leaning towards CJ instead of Russell. Since the rebuilding of that team is going to take more than this one draft anyway, IMO, they should go with CJ, and then take Brohm in the 2008 draft to be thier QB.

blueballs
04-07-2007, 10:31 AM
Jackson was drafted by the Tampa Bay Buccaneers as the first pick of the 1986 NFL Draft, but he opted to play baseball for the Kansas City Royals instead. He spent most of the season with the Memphis Chicks in the minor leagues before being called up for regular duty in 1987, where he had 22 home runs, 53 RBIs and 10 stolen bases as an outfielder for the Royals. He began to show his true potential in 1989, when he was selected for the American League All-Star team, and was named the game's MVP for his play on both offense and defense. His great plays in the game included a monstrous home run off Rick Reuschel of the San Francisco Giants which landed an estimated 448 feet from home plate - in his first All-Star at-bat. He also beat out an infield hit that resulted in the game-winning RBI in the game. And, he had a stolen base, making him the only player in MLB All-Star Game history to hit a home run and steal a base in the same game. Legendary baseball announcer Vin Scully (calling the game for NBC-TV) was moved to comment, "And look at that one! Bo Jackson says hello!" In 1990, he raised his batting average, but the uncertainty of his two sport loyalties may have swayed Royals management to not utilize him as much as he could have been.

On June 5, 1989, Jackson ran down a long line-drive deep to left field on a hit-and-run play against the Seattle Mariners. With speedy Harold Reynolds running from first base on the play, Scott Bradley's hit would have been deep enough to score him against most outfielders. But Jackson, from the warning track, turned flat footed and fired a strike to catcher Bob Boone, who tagged the sliding Reynolds out. Jackson's throw reached Boone on the fly. Interviewed for the "Bo Jackson" episode of ESPN Classic's SportsCentury, Reynolds admitted that he thought there was no way anyone would throw him out on such a deep drive into the gap in left-center, and was shocked to see his teammate telling him to slide as he rounded third base.

On July 11, 1990 against the Baltimore Orioles, Jackson performed his famous "wall run", when he caught a ball approximately 2-3 strides away from the wall. As he caught the ball at full tilt, Jackson looked up and noticed the wall and began to run up the wall, one leg reaching higher as he ascended. He ran along the wall almost parallel to the ground, and came down with the catch, to avoid impact and the risk of injury from the fence.

Before Jackson finished his career in California he spent two years playing for the Chicago White Sox. After a poor at bat he was known to snap the bat over his knee, or with his helmet on, over his head.

In his eight baseball seasons, Jackson had a career batting average of .250, hit 141 home runs and had 415 RBIs, with a slugging average of .474. His best year was 1989, with his effort earning him all-star status. In '89 Bo ranked fourth in the league in both homers and RBI's with 32/105.


[edit] Notable achievements
AL All-Star (1989)
1989 All-Star Game MVP
1993 AL Comeback Player of the Year Award
20-Home Run Seasons: 4 (1987-1990)
30-Home Run Seasons: 1 (1989)
100 RBI Seasons: 1 (1989)

[edit] Football
Bo Jackson
Date of birth November 30, 1962
Place of birth Bessemer, Alabama
Position(s) Running back
College Auburn
NFL Draft 1986 / Round 1/ Pick 1
Pro Bowls 1
Awards 1985 Heisman Trophy
Retired #s Auburn University's #34
Statistics Pro Football Reference
DatabaseFootball

Team(s)
1987-1990 Los Angeles Raiders
College Hall of Fame

Following the 1987 baseball season, Jackson decided to again play football (just as a "hobby", he said) and joined the NFL's Los Angeles Raiders, who drafted Jackson in the 7th round of the 1987 NFL Draft, after his name returned to the draft pool due to Jackson and the Buccaneers never reaching an agreement.[1]
Joining the Raiders midway through the 1987 season, Jackson rushed for 554 yards on 81 carries in just seven games. Over the next three seasons, Bo Jackson would rush for 2,228 more yards and 12 touchdowns: a remarkable achievement, in light of the fact that he was a "second string" player behind Raiders legend Marcus Allen.

Jackson turned in a 221-yard rushing performance on Monday Night Football in 1987 against the Seattle Seahawks. During this game, he literally ran over Seahawks star linebacker Brian Bosworth, who had insulted Jackson and promised to contain him in a media event before the game. He also made a 91-yard run to the outside, untouched down the sideline. He continued sprinting until finally slowing down as he passed through the entrance to the field tunnel to the dressing rooms with teammates soon following.

In his four seasons in the NFL, Jackson rushed for 2,782 yards and 16 touchdowns with an average yards per carry of 5.4. He also caught 40 passes for 352 yards and two touchdowns. Jackson's 221 yards on November 30, 1987, just 29 days after his first NFL carry, is still a Monday Night Football record.

Coach
04-07-2007, 10:41 AM
Damn injury that Bo suffered, unfortunately.

blueballs
04-08-2007, 07:12 AM
4th in the 4th (SD) Mark Vlasic
14th in the 4th (NE) Rich Gannon
7th in the 7th (DET) Dan Salaeumua
and last but not...yes least -CP poster
10th in the 10th (PIT) Merril Hodge

7th pick of 2nd round
35th pick overall

blueballs
04-08-2007, 06:43 PM
played with Okoye
(and Barry Word)
worked with Priest
and now LJ
possibly 3 great Chiefs RBs

Former Chiefs running back James Saxon begins his eighth season as an NFL coach in 2006, his 11th season of coaching overall. After enjoying a four-year playing career with Kansas City from ‘88-91, Saxon embarks on his seventh year of tutoring the club’s running backs. Prior to joining the Chiefs coaching staff in 2001, he spent one season in the same capacity with the Buffalo Bills.

Saxon’s return to the Chiefs has coincided with the emergence of two of the NFL’s elite rushers in three-time Pro Bowler Priest Holmes and two-time Pro Bowl selection Larry Johnson. Under Saxon’s guidance Johnson gained a team single-season record 1,789 rushing yards in 2006, while compiling an NFL single-season record 416 rushing attempts.

Johnson earned his second consecutive Derrick Thomas Award as the Chiefs MVP in 2006 under Saxon’s tutelage. The Penn State product joined L.A. Rams RB Eric Dickerson (’83-84) and Denver RB Terrell Davis (’97-98) as only the third player in NFL history to produce 1,750 or more rushing yards in back-to-back seasons. Since moving into the starting lineup in the seventh game of the 2005 season, Johnson has gained 3,140 rushing yards over that 25-game span.

Under Saxon’s guidance Holmes has established numerous Chiefs career records including rushing yards (5,933), rushing attempts (1,275), rushing TDs (76) and total yards from scrimmage (8,293). Holmes was named the 2002 NFL?Offensive Player of the Year by the Associated Press with 1,615 rushing yards in 2002 after becoming just the second player in team history to lead the league in rushing with 1,555 ground yards in 2001. Ironically, Saxon also had a hand in Christian Okoye’s league-leading rushing effort in ‘89, serving as the lead blocker for Okoye who paced the NFL?with 1,480 ground yards. However, Holmes and Johnson aren’t the only Pro Bowl performers who have worked under Saxon. FB?Tony Richardson earned back-to-back Pro Bowl nods in 2003-04. With Richardson serving as the lead blocker, Holmes proceeded to set an NFL?single-season record with 27 rushing TDs in 2003.

Prior to joining the Chiefs staff, Saxon began his NFL coaching career on a full-time basis with?Buffalo in 2000. He originally joined the Bills in ‘99 as part of the Ralph C. Wilson, Jr. Coaching Fellowship. Saxon served in a similar training camp capacity with the Chiefs in ‘98. As the running backs coach at Rutgers from ‘97-98 Saxon mentored RB Jackie Crooks who finished his career as the fifth-leading rusher in school history (2,434 yards). In ‘99, Saxon served as a volunteer assistant at Menlo College in Atherton, California.

An eight-year NFL playing veteran, Saxon was drafted in the sixth round (139th overall) of the ‘88 draft by the Chiefs. As a rookie with Kansas City, he made an immediate impact and received the club’s prestigious Mack Lee Hill Award, which is awarded to the team’s top rookie or first-year performer. With the Chiefs (’88-91), Saxon played in 54 games (six starts), rushing 127 times for 497 yards with five TDs. He also accumulated 37 catches for 323 yards and had 14 kickoff returns for 193 yards with Kansas City.
Saxon joined Miami as a “Plan B” free agent in ‘92. In three seasons with the Dolphins (’92-94), he played in 48 games (seven starts), registering 17 carries for 36 yards to go with 32 catches for 192 yards. He also amassed 24 tackles on special teams. He returned to the Chiefs for training camp in ‘95, but was acquired by Philadelphia prior to the start of the regular season, playing in nine contests for the Eagles.

During the course of his 111-game NFL career, the versatile Saxon was utilized as a fullback, halfback, receiver, blocker, kickoff returner and special teams coverage man. He concluded his career with 533 rushing yards on 145 carries with five TDs while also hauling in 69 receptions for 515 yards.

A native of Beaufort, South Carolina, Saxon was an honorable mention All-America fullback at San Jose State, where he produced 118 carries for 609 yards and nine TDs, as well as 78 receptions for 732 yards and four scores. He also threw four TD passes and returned 22 kickoffs. Saxon spent two years at American River (CA) Junior College before joining the Spartans. He was a prep standout at Battery Creek High School in Burton, South Carolina.

Personal Bio
Education: San Jose State, California State at Hayward (B.A. 2000). Born: Beaufort, South Carolina. Family: Wife - Shannon; Child - Devin.

Chiefs Pantalones
04-08-2007, 06:51 PM
22 days until trade out of the first round and get another Junior Siavii.

22 days until hell breaks loose...again.

blueballs
04-10-2007, 12:52 AM
Tony Mandarich
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Ante "Tony" Josip Mandarich (born September 23, 1966 in Oakville, Ontario) is a former football offensive lineman of the NFL. He is most remembered as the first round draft pick of the Green Bay Packers in 1989, second overall behind quarterback Troy Aikman.

A decade before the epic failure of Ryan Leaf, Mandarich was largely considered to be the biggest bust of any draft pick in American football history; an ESPN panel named him the third biggest sports flop of the last 25 years. [1] The Packers drafted him early in the draft, even while future superstars like Barry Sanders, Derrick Thomas and Deion Sanders were still available.

Tony had an older brother, John, who was instrumental in his development as an athlete, including sponsoring his younger brother's transfer to a stateside high school before Tony's senior year. John was a gregarious, sweet-natured giant who made his own reputation in professional football, in the Canadian Football League, before his tragically early death from cancer in 1993.

Playing at Michigan State University, Mandarich played in the 1988 Rose Bowl, was named as a first-team All-American, an Outland Award finalist and a two-time Big Ten Lineman of the Year. Upon his entry into the 1989 NFL Draft, both scouts and media (most notably Sports Illustrated, which did a cover story on him) began trumpeting Mandarich as the best offensive line prospect ever. Mandarich was also a colorful character, such as challenging then-Heavyweight Boxing Champion Mike Tyson to a fight, his well-documented love of the band Guns N Roses (he had a dog named Axl and also a tattoo of the cross-design from the cover of Appetite For Destruction on his arm), and referring to Green Bay as "a village".

Drafted as an offensive linesman, Mandarich never lived up to the very high expectations set for him, and spent most of his first year on the Packers on special teams after a lengthy holdout that only got settled the last week before the regular season. He was also known for having attitude issues, and after three seasons of lackluster performance on a four-year contract, Mandarich was cut by the Packers.

The question of steroid use has been discussed as a possible factor in Mandarich's spectacular failure. This accusation is one that Mandarich has consistently denied. He instead blamed himself, in a 2003 Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel article: "I wanted to create as much hype as I could for many different reasons — exposure, negotiation leverage, you name it. And it all worked, except the performance wasn't there when it was time to play football."

Mandarich returned to football for three years between 1996 and 1998 with the Indianapolis Colts. He had a more successful, if not particularly noteworthy, career with the Colts before retiring from football in 1998.

From September 2004 until September 2005, Mandarich served as an NFL analyst for The Score TV sports network in Canada. He was fired in October 2005 and currently resides both in Arizona and in Ontario, where he co-owns a golf course.

He now runs a photography studio.[2]

blueballs
04-10-2007, 12:56 AM
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CoMoChief
04-10-2007, 01:13 AM
That 1985 draft was just terrible. Why would you draft 2 TE's with your first 2 picks in the draft?

blueballs
04-10-2007, 01:17 AM
Neil Smith was not a
Peterson/Schottenheimer pick
maybe why he went Donkey

blueballs
04-11-2007, 12:59 AM
In the second round the Chiefs selected Tim Grunhard, 40th pick overall. 12 seasons as a Chief. If you don't know who Tim Grunhard is, you are not much of a Chief fan. In fact turn in your fan card.

In the 7th round, 180 overall, the Chiefs select:

Dave Szott
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Team(s)
1990-2000 -KC
2001 -Redskins
2002-2003 -Jets

Dave Szott (b. December 12, 1967, Passaic, New Jersey), is a former professional American football offensive lineman.

Scott played 14 years in the NFL for the Kansas City Chiefs, Washington Redskins, and New York Jets, before retiring from football in February 2004. He remained with the Jets as an offensive line coach and in player development. [1]. Szott became the teams' chaplain in 2006.

Szott played college football at Penn State for legendary football coach Joe Paterno.

Szott gew up in Clifton, New Jersey.[1][2] Before his college football career, Szott was a standout player at Clifton High School in New Jersey, as well as a standout high school wrestler in New Jersey placing fourth in the heavyweight division of the 1986 USA Wrestling Junior Freestyle Tournament. Szott was undefeated until the round robin portion where he was pinned by eventual champion John Matyiko of Virginia. Szott then was pinned by Carl Presley of Illinois in the semi-finals and settled for fourth place while losing by fall to Jon Morris of Virginia.


[edit] Personal
Szott and his wife, Andrea, have two children, the youngest whom suffers from cerebral palsy. He is a is a tireless fundraiser for charitable causes related to the disorder.

blueballs
04-12-2007, 12:47 AM
#21 overall Harvey Williams
#50 Joe Valerio*
#77 Tim Barnett
no 4th rounder
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

*During his six-year career with the NFL’s Kansas City Chiefs, Valerio started at every position on the offensive line, including tight end. As an offensive lineman he caught an NFL-record four touchdown passes, three from the legendary Joe Montana.

-He escorted Steve Bono on a 76 yard touchdown run against the sad, sad, sad Cardinals.

10/95

Chiefs 24, Cardinals 3

The two touchdown passes Steve Bono threw Sunday were not a surprise -- even the one to third-string lineman Joe Valerio. However, his 76-yard touchdown run can qualify as a shocker.

After a fake handoff to Marcus Allen fooled the Arizona defense, Bono took off on the longest scoring run by a quarterback in NFL history, a touchdown that started the Kansas City Chiefs on their way to a 24-3 victory.

The slow-footed Bono circled to his right while Allen was being wrestled down and ran, in apparent disbelief, untouched along the sideline while lineman Valerio waved him on.

Later in the second quarter, it was Valerio's turn to score. Bono hit him with a 1-yard TD pass on a tackle-eligible play to give the Chiefs (4-1) a 14-0 lead at halftime.

Bono hit Lake Dawson with a 14-yard scoring pass in the third quarter, and the Chiefs went ahead 24-0 on the kicker that shall go unamed's 28-yard field goal later in the quarter.

blueballs
04-13-2007, 12:45 AM
#20-Dale Carter CB-1992 Defensive Rookie of the year-went to 4 Probowls-Burnt the Donkies as a FA

#40 Matt "Werewolves of" Blundin(Chris Bermanism) QB

the Chiefs did not have a 3rd rounder

blueballs
04-14-2007, 07:39 AM
Pick #18 was traded to to the 49ers for 3 time Super Bowl MVP Joe Montana, safety David Whitmore and a 3rd rounder in 1994.

The second round pick was traded for Super Bowl MVP Marcus Allen of the Oakland Raiders. I have had no luck finding details of the trade. **looks like there was no trade. Allen was a FA. see post 29** Allen was named NFL Comeback Player of the Year for 1993.

In the 3rd round the Chiefs pick future HOFer Will Shields

#103 Jamie Fields OLB
#130 Lindsay Knapp G
#159 Daurius Turner RB

And in the 7th round, WR Danan Hughes who played 5 season for the Chiefs

blueballs
04-15-2007, 10:58 AM
WTF is going on here???

round 1
#25 (RB)Greg "the real deal" Hill -4yrs KC/ 1-STL/ 1-DET

round 2
#58 (FB)Donnell Bennett -7yrs KC/ 2-Redskins

round 3
#92 (WR)Lake Dawson -4yrs KC/ -became a Colt and then ???

#96 (WR)Chris Penn -traded to Bears in '97 for a 5th rounder

round 4
#127 (SS)Bracy Walker Goodnight what the hell happened here?
started the '94 season as a Chief/finnished the season as a Bengal. Looks like he was waived?
-2 1/2yrs CINN
-1yr Miami
-re-signed and became a Chief for 4 seasons
press release:
http://www.kcchiefs.com/news/2000/02/24/s_bracy_walker_signs_fouryear_deal_to_remain_with_chiefs/
"After beginning the ’94 campaign with Kansas City, he moved on to Cincinnati."
-4 yrs DET

round 5
#151 (DB)James Burton
Burton shows up as a Bear for the '94 season, spent 4 season there
WTF happened? I don't care any more my head is splitting after the Walker searches

#156 (DT)Rob Waldrop -N/A

round 6

#185 (RB)Anthony Daigle -N/A

round 7

#199 (QB) Steve Matthews -3yrs KC/ -1 Jacksonville/ 1-Tn Oilers

lastly (TE) Tracy Greene -1yr KC/ -1 PITT

milkman
04-15-2007, 11:27 AM
Pick #18 was traded to to the 49ers for 3 time Super Bowl MVP Joe Montana, safety David Whitmore and a 3rd rounder in 1994.

The second round pick was traded for Super Bowl MVP Marcus Allen of the Oakland Raiders. I have had no luck finding details of the trade. Allen was named NFL Comeback Player of the Year for 1993.

In the 3rd round the Chiefs pick future HOFer Will Shields

#103 Jamie Fields OLB
#130 Lindsay Knapp G
#159 Daurius Turner RB

And in the 7th round, WR Danan Hughes who played 5 season for the Chiefs

My memory is suspect, but I do know that the Chiefs signed Allen as a free agent.

I think they traded their second round pick to Dallas which they used to draft Darrin Smith.

blueballs
04-15-2007, 11:38 AM
My memory is suspect, but I do know that the Chiefs signed Allen as a free agent.

I think they traded their second round pick to Dallas which they used to draft Darrin Smith.


my bad. All I could find was some article saying that the CHiefs traded for Montana and Allen. I went with that. Finding info on the net more than a few years old is hard to come by. I'm finding out. I had to rely on a Nick "The Erroneous One" Athan article that Bracy Walker was waived in 1994. Everything else just came to dead ends.

milkman
04-15-2007, 11:52 AM
my bad. All I could find was some article saying that the CHiefs traded for Montana and Allen. I went with that. Finding info on the net more than a few years old is hard to come by. I'm finding out. I had to rely on a Nick "The Erroneous One" Athan article that Walker was waived. Everything else just came to dead ends.

Yeah, Montana was acquired in a trade.
Allen in free agency.

I'm not sure that second round pick went to Dallas, but if I'm correct, imagine if we hadn't made those trades, and signed Steve Buerlein in free agency, and drafted the players that SF and Dallas used our picks on.

Dana Stubblefield and Darren Smith would have been nice additions to our defense.

blueballs
04-15-2007, 11:24 PM
#31 in first round:

Trezelle Jenkins (born March 13, 1973) was an offensive tackle for the Kansas City Chiefs from 1995 through 1997.


[edit] College Career
Jenkins started 28 games for the University of Michigan from 1992-1994.


[edit] Professional Career
He was taken 31st overall by the Kansas City Chiefs in the 1995 NFL Draft. He played in only 9 games in 3 seasons before being waived after the 1997 season. Jenkins was subsequently signed by the New Orleans Saints and Minnesota Vikings but never appeared in a game for either team.

In 2000, Jenkins was drafted 156th overall by the San Francisco Demons of the XFL but failed to make the team


[edit] Harold's Chicken Shack
In 1999, Jenkins and his wife, Dora, opened a franchise of Chicago's Harold's Chicken Shack in Ferndale, Michigan on Eight Mile Road, made famous by Detroit rapper Eminem.

Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trezelle_Jenkins"

#62 second round: traded to the Eagles for Victor Bailey WR
Victor played in 2 games. Gone. Injury or Peterson got bent over by his old team is an unknown. I along with most will believe the latter.

#81 round 3: Tamarick Vanover WR. As a receiver Vanover produced 564 yards and 3 TDs in 5 seasons as a Chief But redeemed himself as a punt and kick returner. But not for a 3rd round pick.

#97 Troy Dumas also a third rounder: zzzzzz

#13 Steve Stenstrom QB 4th round zzzzzz

5th rounders #155 Mike Pelton DT - #164 Jerrott Willard LB ? who the **** knows?

#202 Bryan Proby DT, 6th round -another N/A

and a little face saving #207 Tom Barndt DT -4 season KC/ 1-Cinn/ 1- Jets

**somewhat interesting sidenote: while trying to find info on these grand picks. Several are listed as rookies in the '96 season. Didn't persue the issue but NFLE might have been a reason why.

blueballs
04-17-2007, 12:52 AM
28th pick 1st round: Jerome Woods FS -10 seasons KC

27th pick of 2nd: Reggie "the" Tongue SS -4 yrs KC/-10 yr NFL career

7th pick of 3rd: John Browning DT -11yrs KC

3rd pick of 4th: Donnie Edwards ILB -'96-'01 KC/ -'02-'06 SD/ -'07KC

3rd pick of 5th: Joe Horn WR -4 yrs KC/ -7yrs NO/-'07 ATL

9th pick of 6th: Dietrich Jells WR - 5 yr NFL career

2nd pick of 7th: Ben Lynch C -5 yr NFL career

32nd pick of 7th: Jeff Smith C - '96-'99 KC

36th pick of 7th: Darrell Williams DB -N/A

*45 picks in the 7th round of the draft in 1996

blueballs
04-18-2007, 01:00 AM
#13 Gonzo: I thought he was a top 10

#47(2nd rnd): Kevin Lockett WR -4 KC/ 8 NFL seasons

----------no 3rd rounder----------------

#110(4th) Pat Barnes QB -1 KC/ 4 NFL seasons

#163(bottom of the 5th) June Henley RB -1KC/ 1 STL

#195(6th) Isaac Byrd WR - 3 TENN/ 3 CAR

#2149 Nathan Parks C -1 KC/ 2 OAK

blueballs
04-19-2007, 01:04 AM
http://www.iis-sports.com/draft/1998/trade.html
not shown, KC trades a conditional pick in '99 for Melvin Johnson S
http://www.kcchiefs.com/news/1998/04/19/chiefs_trade_bucs_for_veteran_safety

#27 Victor Riely

---no 2nd---
KC's second(for what ?) went to SD through TB and Oakland
SD picked Mikheal Ricks who would become a Chief in 2 yrs

#88 (blast from the past )Rashaan Shehee RB

#120 Greg Favors OLB

#128(original to Chicago) Robert Williams CB

#181 Derrick Ransom NT

#216 Eric Warfield -listed here as CB(I thought he was drafted as a S )

#224 (compensatory) Earnest Blackwell RB

ct
04-19-2007, 07:59 AM
football thread bump

9 days

blueballs
04-20-2007, 12:57 AM
#14(1st) John"STFUandSTFD" Tait T
#54(2nd) Mike"get off my" CLoud RB
#75(3rd) Gary "I'm sorry Dante" Stills DE
#84(3rd) Larry"that name sounds familure" Atkins OLB
#108(4th) Larry "I'm not Sammie" Parker WR
---no 5th----
---no 6th----
#220(7th) Eric King G

1999 NFL draft re-visited

Michael David Smith / FootballOutsiders.com

{{-blah, blah The biggest stories of the 2006 draft will most likely revolve around the three big-name quarterbacks, USC's Matt Leinart, Texas's Vince Young and Vanderbilt's Jay Cutler.

That could make 2006 similar to the 1999 draft, and if it is, it will be one of the most thrilling sports Saturdays of the spring.-blah}}

The 1999 draft boasted one of the most exciting first rounds in memory because of all the great debates that went with it. The big question revolved around which of the quarterbacks would be the best: Tim Couch of Kentucky (selected first by the Browns), Donovan McNabb of Syracuse (selected second by the Eagles), Akili Smith of Oregon (selected third by the Bengals), Daunte Culpepper of Central Florida (selected 11th by the Vikings) or Cade McNown of UCLA (selected 12th by the Bears)?

But don't forget the hot dispute about the top running back: Edgerrin James of Miami (selected fourth by the Colts) or Heisman Trophy winner Ricky Williams of Texas (selected fifth by the Saints)? And who was the best defensive player in an offense-heavy draft: Cornerback Champ Bailey of Georgia (selected seventh by the Redskins), linebacker Chris Claiborne of USC (selected ninth by the Lions) or cornerback Chris McAlister of Arizona (selected 10th by the Ravens)?

We'll answer those questions and more as we pass out some awards for the 1999 draft.

Worst picks that looked good at the time: Andy Katzenmoyer of Ohio State was a great athlete but not a very smart football player. In college, everyone seemed willing to overlook his mental lapses and how often he took himself out of position because he showed such great strength and quickness. But in the pros, he never amounted to anything. The Patriots took him 28th overall.

Aaron Gibson, the behemoth offensive lineman from Wisconsin (chosen 27th overall by Detroit), seemed like a natural in Bobby Ross's offense. But injuries constantly hounded him; Ross didn't stay in Detroit long, and Gibson started only 34 games in his career.

Best picks that looked bad at the time: Most observers thought the Colts erred by taking Edgerrin James over Ricky Williams. Even if Williams' career hadn't gone to pot, no one now could dispute that James has been the better player.

Ditto with the Rams taking Torry Holt of North Carolina State over David Boston of Ohio State. Both have talent, but Holt has become a great receiver, while Boston has become a troublemaker.

Not many draft observers had North Dakota tight end Jimmy Kleinsasser going in the high second round, but the Vikings took him at pick No. 44; and he's become the perfect H-back for the Vikings' attack.

Worst picks that everyone knew were bad picks: What was Dennis Green thinking when Minnesota chose Dimitrius Underwood 29th overall? What makes that pick particularly suspect is that the next two players taken, Patrick Kerney to the Falcons and Al Wilson to the Broncos, both would have provided immediate help to the Vikings' defense. Also, why did Mike Holmgren think Lamar King had so much talent that he could go from Saginaw Valley State to the NFL, warranting the 22nd pick overall?

James Johnson was a pretty lousy running back out of Mississippi State and was a bizarre choice at No. 39 for the Dolphins.

Best draft: No team stands out, but the former Buffalo Bills' general manager, the late John Butler, deserves credit. Running the war room in Buffalo, Butler took Antoine Winfield in the first round, Peerless Price in the second, Shawn Bryson in the third, Keith Newman in the fourth, Jay Foreman in the fifth and Bryce Fisher in the seventh. Every single one of those guys was gone by the time his rookie contract expired.

Worst draft: The easy answer would be the Saints, who traded their entire draft to get into position to select Ricky Williams. Or it could be the Chargers, who got nothing of value in large part because they traded away their 1999 first-round pick to move up and draft Ryan Leaf in 1998. But the winner for the worst draft award has to go to the Browns, who, in their first draft as an expansion team, were given the first pick in every round (plus a bunch of extra selections) and got next to nothing. Couch was a major disappointment; second-round pick Kevin Johnson was just OK, and despite all those extra picks, the Browns didn't give their roster any depth.

An incomplete list of second-day picks who have had significantly better careers than Tim Couch:


Fourth-round pick Brandon Stokley has been a good possession receiver for both the Ravens and the Colts.

Guard Edwin Mulitalo has started for the Ravens since his rookie year.

Kelly Gregg didn't do anything for the Bengals, who drafted him, but has been a very good defensive tackle in Baltimore.

Virginia quarterback Aaron Brooks, taken at the end of the fourth round, No. 131 overall by the Packers, turned into a starter in New Orleans and is now No. 1 on the Oakland depth chart.

Roosevelt Colvin of Purdue, a defensive end taken in the middle of the fourth round, No. 111 overall by the Bears, has been a very good pass rusher both in Chicago and in New England.

Olandis Gary of Georgia, taken at the end of the fourth round, No. 127 overall by the Broncos, had a good enough rookie season that he deserves mention here — even though he hasn't done anything since.

The Raiders took both Rod Coleman and Eric Barton in the fifth round, and both have been consistent starters on defense. Coleman is now a Falcon; Barton is now a Jet.

Desmond Clark, a tight end from Wake Forest, was well worth the 179th overall pick that the Broncos spent on him.

Donald Driver of Alcorn State was a nice pick by the Packers at No. 213 overall.

Jermaine Haley, a defensive tackle out of Butte Junior College, taken at No. 232 overall by Jimmy Johnson's Dolphins, is an underrated run-stuffing lineman.

Center Todd McClure of LSU, taken by the Falcons at No. 237 overall, has started every game the last four years.
Remember: Most of the pundits spoke favorably of Cleveland's decision to pick Couch first overall. All of the pundits would have eviscerated Cleveland if the Browns had taken any of these players first overall.

Biggest disappointments: John Tait was a very good pass blocker at BYU and has turned into a good pass blocker in the NFL; but suffice to say he didn't learn enough run blocking at BYU to justify the Chiefs' decision to take him 14th overall. Cecil Collins, taken by Jimmy Johnson's Dolphins with the first pick of the fifth round, had the talent to be a stud but the character to be a bust. Character won out, and even before Collins went to prison, he was nothing better than mediocre.

Best change of position: Jerry Azumah of New Hampshire was a running back who the Bears chose No. 147 overall with the plans to turn him into a defensive back. He wasn't great on defense, but he turned into quite a return man before injuries forced him to retire.

Worst second-day assessment: Many analysts thought California-Davis quarterback Kevin Daft, taken 151st overall by the Titans, was going to be one of the steals of the draft. He was a steal if you define "steal" as "guy who has had some good games in NFL Europe."

Worst trade: Dan Reeves' decision to send a 2000 first-round pick to Baltimore in exchange for a 1999 second-round pick. The player Reeves wanted with that 1999 second-rounder? Reggie Kelly, a tight end from Mississippi State, who after seven years has only 1,046 receiving yards for his career. What makes it especially painful for the Falcons is that Jim Kleinsasser, an infinitely better player, was the next tight end off the board.

Trade that benefited the team you wouldn't expect: The main beneficiary of Mike Ditka's obsession with Ricky Williams was not the Redskins, who made the initial deal with the Saints. It turned out to be the Bears, who in a subsequent deal with the Redskins acquired many of the Saints' picks. For all the picks they got, the Redskins didn't have a great draft. Champ Bailey was a good first pick overall, and Jon Jansen, the second pick, is a solid tackle. But their other four picks were disappointments: Nate Stimson, Derek Smith, Jeff Hall and Tim Alexander.

The Bears, on the other hand, had a lousy draft at the top, using their first choice on McNown and their second pick on defensive tackle Russell Davis. But thanks in part to their former coach, Ditka, the Bears were able to snag a number of good players in the middle rounds who would end up playing important roles on their 13-3 team in 2001, including OT Rex Tucker, WR Marty Booker, LB Warrick Holdman and Rosevelt Colvin, and CB/return ace Jerry Azumah.

The passage of time: Only seven players from the first round of the 1999 draft are still with the teams that drafted them — McNabb, Holt, McAlister, Booger McFarland, Luke Petitgout, Patrick Kerney and Al Wilson.

blueballs
04-21-2007, 08:20 AM
1st round

#21 KC Sylvester Morris WR -5 NFL season, mosty on IR in KC

rest of 1st round-

#22 SEA Chris McIntosh OLB -3 NFL seasons

#23 CAR Rashard Anderson CB -3 NFL season, including 1 year suspension for violating the substance abuse policy

#24 SF Ahmed Plummer CB -still in SF

#25 MN Chris Hovan DT -still playing, last couple in TB

#26 BUF Erik Flowers DE -sign cut, sign cut, rinse repeat

#27 NYJ Anthony Becht TE -5 yrs Jets, last two TB

#28 IND Rob Morris MLB -still in Indy

#29 Jac R. Jay Soward WR -wikipeda

Soward's pure talent was too much for the Jacksonville Jaguars to ignore and they took him with a very questionable first-round selection (29th overall) in the 2000 NFL Draft. Soward didn't take the pressure of being a first-round selection very well. "I think the hardest part for me was dealing with all the pressure after getting drafted," he recalls. "I didn’t play well my first year so people were on me a lot. I wish I would have went to New Orleans in the second round. I wish I hadn’t ever been a first round draft pick. I felt that New Orleans had a better staff to suit me at that time. I think being with those guys would have changed my future in the NFL."[1]

After wearing out his welcome with the Jags in training camp, before playing in his first game under head coach Tom Coughlin (who had gone so far as to send a limousine, at the team's expense, to pick up Soward every day for practice, just to make sure he would come), R. Jay was suspended several times by the NFL, his last one for one year for violating the league's substance abuse policy. He has not filed for re-instatement since. Though many media outlets attributed the suspension to marijuana (which he admits to smoking in college), his suspension came as a result of alcohol abuse. "I can honestly say I was an alcoholic at that time in my life," R. Jay recollects. "That’s why I’m not playing in the NFL, because I was an alcoholic at that time."[2]

After entering the NFL's substance abuse program, Soward was critical about its effectiveness. "It was horrible counseling. I’ve been in every rehab centre known to man," said Soward. "They even had the nerve to put me in rehab in Miami, the drug capital of the world. I don’t really think the rehabilitation process is very good for players down there. I think it is more of a disciplinary kind of rehabilitation which doesn’t teach anybody anything. For me, the more they took away from me the more it made me want to drink, the more it made me want to feel depressed, the more it made me want to feel bad about me."[3]



#30 TEN Keith Bulluck OLB -still with TiT in '06

#31 STL Trung Canidate RB - played 5 NFL seasons, 5 year total yrds -1095

back to KC

#54 William Bartee SS-

#85 Greg Wesley FS -

#115 Frank Moreau RB -

#153 Dante Hall -listed as WR - I thought he was drafted at RB

#162 Pat Dennis CB -2nd of 2 5th rounders

#188 Darrell Alford G -

#208 Desmond Kitchings WR -

blueballs
04-22-2007, 10:07 AM
#12 traded to STL for Trent Green and a 5th rounder
-STL uses pick to select Damoine Lewis DT

The Chiefs' second round pick was awarded to the Rams by the NFL commissioner for tampering.
DAMMIT CARL :cuss: 2nd rounder for Dick Vermeil.
STL uses pick t select Tommy Polley LB

#75(3rd round) Eric Dowing DT -and the faliures at drafting DTs has begun

#77(3rd-from Skins) Marvin "snoop" Minnis WR -Marvin "who" Minnis

#107(4th) Montey Beisel DE -

#108(4th-from Jags) George Layne FB - George "express check out" Layne

#141(5th) Billy Barber TE -

#150(5th from STL) Derrick Blaylock -

#176(6th) Alex Sulfsted OT -

#212(7th) Shaunard Harts S -Chiefs seem to find good 7th rounders

compensatory pick Terdell Sands DT -was playing for the Raiders in '06

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http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/inside_game/don_banks/news/2001/04/22/banks_wrap_apr22/


Winds of change

Kansas City will have a new offensive look in 2001
Click here for more on this story
Posted: Sunday April 22, 2001 7:38 PM



KANSAS CITY, Mo. -- Do not adjust your set if you don't recognize the Kansas City Chiefs' offense this fall. The distortion in regards to the vertical hold is purely intentional.

Through most of the 12-year span that encompassed the Marty Schottenheimer and Gunther Cunningham coaching eras, the Chiefs offensive philosophy consisted of three-yards-and-a-cloud-of-red-dust. Most of the franchise's victories during that span were secured with a combination of stout defense and a conservative offense built around a power running game.

But that was Christian Okoye, and this is now. While there's no truth to the rumor that the Chiefs will petition the league to install a CFL-sized playing surface at Arrowhead this fall, Kansas City's offense does plan on stretching the field in a most untraditional way.

An attacking offense with a spread-the-field mentality? Plenty of three- and four-receiver sets? In Kansas City? What has Dick Vermeil wrought?

"Obviously, hiring Dick, then hiring [offensive coordinator] Al Saunders began this process," Chiefs general manager Carl Peterson said of his team’s offensive make-over. "The key now is that we've been able to acquire some other talented offensive people. I think we're going to be excited about going out and playing. I think our fans are going to be excited about the type of offense they're going to see at Arrowhead Stadium."

In a three-day span this weekend, the Chiefs believe they have put into place the pieces that will allow them to diversify their offense to the degree that Kansas City fans have not seen in many years. The centerpiece of that movement was the acquisition of St. Louis backup quarterback Trent Green, who had a first-hand view of the Rams' offensive explosion of 1999-2000, even if he was the second hand on the QB depth chart.

Former Baltimore running back Priest Holmes and kick return specialist/receiver Tony Horne were added Friday along with Green. And Saturday and Sunday brought draft picks Marvin Minnis, a Florida State wide receiver who came in the third round, and a speedster in Stephen F. Austin running back Derrick Blaylock (fifth round).

"This could be a good football team if I don't screw it up," said Vermeil of the Chiefs, who haven't made the playoffs since 1997. "We had to have the guy who drives the car, and we have that in Trent. ... We will not be limited to what we can do offensively from a talent standpoint.

"We may not do it as well today as we will two years from now, from a talent standpoint. But I feel very good about it."

While no one is bracing for Rams-like point totals in Kansas City, the Chiefs are optimistic that their fresh faces will supplement on offense the skill-player talent that begins with the NFL’s best tight end, Tony Gonzalez, and includes wide receivers Derrick Alexander and second-year man Sylvester Morris.

"Oh, man, it's almost like night and day," said holdover Chiefs running back Tony Richardson this weekend, of the team's influx of offense. "I laughed when people questioned whether we should trade the first-round pick. Now we know what we're getting.

"You know Trent Green is coming in here ready to play. You're not wondering if you're getting some head case who might crack up on you in the middle of the season or something. Obviously, you need rookies on your team, but in light of what we got [Friday], I'd say this trade is incredible."

Under Schottenheimer and Cunningham, two defensive-minded coaches, the Chiefs rarely pressed the issue on offense or tried to dictate the tempo of the game from that side of the ball. But under Vermeil and Saunders, staying in the attack mode will be their first priority on offense.

"The nature of this offense is much more aggressive than conservative," said Saunders, who was Schottenheimer's receivers coach in Kansas City for 10 years, a post some likened to semi-retirement. "I think it'll be fun to watch. I think there will be more versatility and diversification in what we do. We feel very good about having an opportunity to be a little more creative and hopefully more productive in scoring points than we've been here before."

Believe it or not, Vermeil and Co. say Holmes, who was a 1,000-yard rusher with Baltimore as recently as 1998, will be pivotal to the offensive success. Holmes is no Marshall Faulk, but the Chiefs propose that he'll be much more multi-dimensional than past Kansas City runners, and is capable of both running wide and posing a downfield receiving threat.

Sounds like a lofty role for a player who sat virtually uncourted through seven weeks of free agency.

"He fits our profile," Vermeil said. "He can do all the obvious things with a football. He can be more than a lay-off back in terms of the passing game. He can attack down the field as a receiving back. He can pick up the linebackers coming in. He can make them miss in the open field, and he can run over somebody."

Holmes entered Arrowhead talking a good game Saturday, even before he had actually signed a five-year, $8 million contract with Kansas City.

"When you have a quarterback, some receivers and a running back, you can kill them slow or kill them fast," said Holmes, who lost his lead running back job last year to Ravens rookie Jamal Lewis. "With the receivers and quarterback we have here, we can definitely kill them fast and at the same time we are going to kill them slow with Tony Richardson and myself."

The Chiefs talking loud on offense. Almost loud enough for it to be heard in St. Louis. We have left the realm of the familiar.

Something tells us we're not in Kansas any more.

Don Banks covers pro football for CNNSI.com.

inset:
SI's Don Banks
Instant analysis is what covering the NFL Draft is all about. But in an effort to avoid making snap judgments about players whose names we hardly knew six weeks ago, we decided to take an entire day to let the results roll in and the perceptions to harden. So, without further ado, here are the weekend's winners and losers.
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It is a deal that looked dead in the water at many times in the past seven weeks, amid media reports of blood feuds and hurt feelings between these two cross-state rivals. But on Friday night the Kansas City Chiefs and St. Louis Rams consummated their long-winding Trent Green trade talks.
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It was only every day. For the past seven weeks, Trent Green has closed his eyes and tried every day to picture himself in Kansas City red. So much so that it was beginning to color his every thought. Trapped in trade-bait limbo, Green wondered and waited for the call that finally came Friday evening.

blueballs
04-22-2007, 09:44 PM
The Chiefs with the #8 pick
trade it their 3rd(#75) and a 6th in '03 for Dallas' #6

The Chiefs take #6 Ryan Sims -Krispie Cream stores spring up in KC
--Dallas with the #8 take Roy Williams S
--#75 Derek Ross DB

#43(2) Eddie Freeman DE -John Tait will know what hit him

#107(4) Omar Easy FB -

#143(5) Scott Fujita OLB

---no 6th-----------

#221(7) Maurice Rodriguez LB

Dr Z gives his grade:

KANSAS CITY

Whew, they got the trade done in time and snatched DT Ryan Sims away from the Vikings, thereby acquiring a terrific lineman. I like the two other defenders they got as well, DT Eddie Freeman and LB Scott Fujita . Grade ... B (the Z must be for zelch idea of football)

Peter King:

THINGS I LIKE, BUT I MIGHT BE WRONG

16. Kansas City. Just like you can never have too much starting pitching, you can never have too many defensive linemen. Ryan Sims and Eddie Freeman should plug the run and give the Chiefs some upfield pass rush, too. (he did print MIGHT)

blueballs
04-24-2007, 01:01 AM
#16 KC trades it to Pitt for
#27Larry Johnson,
#92[(3rd) Julian Battle CB]
#200(traded to NYJ) Jets take Brooks Bollinger QB

#47(2) Kawika Mitchel MLB -

Battle

#113(4) Brett Williams T -

#150[(5) traded to NYJ] Jets take Matt Walters DT

#153[(5) from NYJ] KC takes I-65

#186[(6) to Dallas -Ryan Sims trade] Cowboys take Zuriel Smith

#189[6) from NYJ] KC takes Jimmy Wilkerson DE

#200[from KC] Jets take Bollinger

#230(7) Montique Sharpe DT

#252[(7) compensatory pick] Willie Pile FS

______________________________

SI's Dr Z grade:


B-) Kansas City -- Picking Larry Johnson in the first round tells me they're worried about Priest Holmes' return from surgery. The Kawika Mitchell (second) pick tells me they want a formidable body backing up the line. He's 253 pounds and he can rush the passer, and just look at these workout numbers ... 4.66 in the 40, 25 reps in the bench press, 37-inch vertical jump. When his school, South Florida, met its archrival, Oklahoma, something got him annoyed because he lit up this gridiron classic with 13 tackles, five behind the line, two sacks and a forced fumble. Wait, I'm not through. His bio says he was thrown from a car moving at 50 mph (I want to meet the guy who threw him) and suffered only a slight shoulder separation. The road suffered a major shoulder separation. Are there corners on Dick Vermeil's draft list, to hold off the mighty Raiders passing attack? Uh, no, but there's now one of the country's top safeties, Julian Battle (third), who runs faster than any of Oakland's receivers do.

another from SI -author unknow


The Kansas City Chiefs added running back insurance for Priest Holmes, taking Penn State's Larry Johnson with the 27th pick.

Johnson was a Heisman finalist last year after finally becoming Penn State's go-to guy. He ran for just 866 yards in his first three seasons before carrying 271 times for 2,087 yards and 20 TDs as a senior. He also caught 41 passes last year for 349 yards and three TDs.

The 6-1, 228-pound Johnson returned kickoffs for the Nittany Lions, averaging nearly 23 yards per return. He also was a valuable special teams player.

Johnson struggled against topflight competition last season. He had a combined 212 yards on 51 carries versus Michigan, Iowa and Ohio State. Johnson also lacks explosiveness and struggles to break low tackles. But his versatility and durability should lead to a long pro career.

C-Mac
04-24-2007, 06:39 AM
The Kansas City Chiefs added running back insurance for Priest Holmes, taking Penn State's Larry Johnson with the 27th pick.

Johnson was a Heisman finalist last year after finally becoming Penn State's go-to guy. He ran for just 866 yards in his first three seasons before carrying 271 times for 2,087 yards and 20 TDs as a senior. He also caught 41 passes last year for 349 yards and three TDs.

The 6-1, 228-pound Johnson returned kickoffs for the Nittany Lions, averaging nearly 23 yards per return. He also was a valuable special teams player.

Johnson struggled against topflight competition last season. He had a combined 212 yards on 51 carries versus Michigan, Iowa and Ohio State. Johnson also lacks explosiveness and struggles to break low tackles. But his versatility and durability should lead to a long pro career.

:hmmm: Perhaps a thank you letter is in order for this unknown writer.

blueballs
04-24-2007, 11:21 PM
The Chiefs at #30 Trade it to the Lions for #36 and #105(4th)
at #30 Lions take Kevin Jones RB
the Chiefs #36 Junior Siavii and #105 Samie Parker

#61(2) Kris Wilson TE

#93(3) Keyaron Fox LB

(4)Samie

#126(4) Jared Allen DE

#162(from KC) Eagles select Thomas Tapen FB*

#195(6) Jaris McIntyre WR

#231(7) Kevin Sampson T

*New York, NY -- Philadelphia traded disgruntled offensive lineman John Welbourn to Kansas City during the second day of the NFL Draft.

In return, the Chiefs gave up a fifth-round pick Sunday and at least a fourth- round selection in next year's draft.
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Don Banks SI: Winners and Losers

Loser-• Kansas City Chiefs -- We thought the Chiefs hungered for a wide receiver, and with great pass-catchers growing on trees, this seemed to be the perfect year for that need. But a funny thing happened on the way to the second round. No. 30 K.C. traded out of the first round, passed on the likes of Oklahoma State receiver Rashuan Woods, and wound up selecting Oregon defensive tackle Junior Siavii and Pitt tight end Kris Wilson in the second round. True, the Chiefs needed help on defense, too. But the pass-catchers were special this year.

[Raushan Woods(SF 04-06) '04 -7 rec -160 yrds -1td/ '05 -0-/(SD) '06 -0-/out of the league]

SI's DR Z: Draft Report Card

D
KANSAS CITY CHIEFS -- I don't like this at all. Dick Vermeil is a terrific guy, and he gave me a nice sampling of his Over The Edge Napa Valley wine and I feel like a real rat, putting up a D grade here, but gee, trading out of the first round and ending up with 344-pound DT Junior Siavii? OK, the run defense was nowhere last year and this guy will plug about three different holes, but let's drop down a little farther in the second round. Is TE Kris Wilson really the answer? I mean you've got Tony Gonzalez for catching, and Jason Dunn for blocking. Do you really need a third one this high up on the board? *Welbourn comes aboard from Philly, at the price of only a No. 5, and that's the best news so far.

blueballs
04-26-2007, 01:03 AM
15(15) Kansas City (7-9) Derrick Johnson OLB TEXAS
The Chiefs wanted Thomas Davis here and actually tried to trade out of this pick when the Panthers took Davis. But they instead ended Johnsons' free-fall. He had been rated the top defensive player on some draft boards, but he's a classic OLB in a 4-3 scheme, and most teams looking defense earlier in the round were looking for a 3-4 edge rusher.

-Chief fans stop what they are doing and do cartwheels and hand sprints

#46(2) traded to the Dolphins for Pat Surtain and a 5th(Boomer Grigsby)
The Fins take Matt Roth DE

#99(3-compensatory pick) Dustin Colquitt P

#116(4) Craphonso Thorpe WR

#138(5 from Miami) Boomer Grigsby

#147(5) Alphonso Hodge CB

#187(6) Will Svitek T

#199(6) Khari Long DE

#229(7) James Kilian QB

#238(7) Jeremy Parquet

Mecca
04-26-2007, 01:07 AM
The drafts between 2004 and 2005 produced 2 players 1 of which is a punter.....no wonder we have holes.

ChiefsCountry
04-26-2007, 01:19 AM
The drafts between 2004 and 2005 produced 2 players 1 of which is a punter.....no wonder we have holes.

I count 3 "Starters" - Allen, DJ, Colquitt
3 backups - Parker, Boomer, Wilson
1 Project - Svitek

luv
04-26-2007, 01:20 AM
The drafts between 2004 and 2005 produced 2 players 1 of which is a punter.....no wonder we have holes.
He's one hell of a punter, though.

Mecca
04-26-2007, 01:23 AM
I count 3 "Starters" - Allen, DJ, Colquitt
3 backups - Parker, Boomer, Wilson
1 Project - Svitek

I read through it very quickly but still.......Picks like Mitchell and Fox are just pathetic. For what he does I consider the Wilson pick awful too.

blueballs
04-27-2007, 07:50 AM
*the stats were hastly thrown together
-limited time

#20(1) Tamba Hali DE
16 - Games / 58 - Tackles / 8 - Sacks / 1 - Int / 5 - Forced Fumbles

#54(2) Benard Pollard SS
16 - G / 10 - T / 1 - Pass Defensed / 2 - Blocked Punts / 1 - FF

#85(3) Brodie Croyle QB
2 - G / 7 - Att / 3 - Comp / 2 - Ints

#117(4) traded to the NYJ for Herm Edwards 9-7
NYJ take Leon Washington RB
16 - G / 151 - Att / 650 - yrds / 4 - TDs / 25 - Rec / 270 - yrds

#154(5) Marcus Maxey CB
-0-

#186(6) Tre' Stallings G
-0-

#190(6) Jeff Webb WR
10 - G / 3 - Rec / 23 - yrds / 2 - 1st Downs
7 - Kick Returns / 169 - yards / 50 - Longest

#228(7) Jarrad Page FS
16 - G / 30 - T / 5 - Asst / 1 - sack / 3 - Ints / 5 - Pass Def

blueballs
04-28-2007, 07:14 AM
blast off

blueballs
04-05-2008, 10:23 AM
#23(1) Dwayne Bowe WR
16 -games(15 starts)
Rec -70/ YDS -995/ AVG -14.2/ TDS -5

#54(2) Turk McBride DE
16 -games(1 start)
14 -tackles/ 1 -sack

#82(3) Tank Tyler DT
15 -games(1 start)
11 -tackles

#123(4) Traded to NO for M Bennett in 2006
NO traded it to Houston who selected Fred Bennett CB

#148(5) Aquired from St Louis (via Buffalo) for Dante Hall
#148(5) Kolby Smith RB
16 -games(6 starts)
112 -CAR/ 407 -YDS/ AVG -3.6/ 2 TDS

#160(5) Justin Medlock PK
cut after 1st regular season game
only 2007 draft pick not still with team as of today 4/5/08

#196(6) Herb Taylor OT
saw action in 2 games in 07

#231(7) Michael Allen TE
no game experience listed