Georgia school has first integrated prom

[tk13]

http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/04/23/turner.prom/index.html?section=cnn_latest

Students attend school's first integrated prom
POSTED: 2:15 p.m. EDT, April 23, 2007

By Kristi Keck
CNN


ASHBURN, Georgia (CNN) -- Students of Turner County High School started what they hope will become a new tradition: Black and white students attended the prom together for the first time on Saturday.

In previous years, parents had organized private, segregated dances for students of the school in rural Ashburn, Georgia, 160 miles south of Atlanta.

"Whites always come to this one and blacks always go to this one," said Lacey Adkinson, a 14-year-old freshman at the school of 455 students -- 55 percent black, 43 percent white.

"It's always been a tradition since my daddy was in school to have the segregated ones, and this year we're finally getting to try something new," she said. (Audio slide show: A town breaks with tradition)

Adkinson's sister, Mindy Bryan, attended a segregated prom in 2001.

"There was not anybody that I can remember that was black," she said. "The white people have theirs, and the black people have theirs. It's nothing racial at all."

Breaking away from traditions

But this year's upperclassmen -- 213 students total --voted to have just one official prom.

"It's been a dream of all of ours," Senior Class President James Hall said.

"We didn't want to put emphasis on integrated blacks and whites coming together. We just wanted to put emphasis on this was our first school prom," Principal Chad Stone said.

The theme of the first official prom: Breakaway.

"It was fitting already because we are breaking away from the past traditions here in Turner County School," Hall said.

Another tradition that ended this year -- having two separate homecoming queens.

"You pick the homecoming queen for their personalities and being a role model," explained Roshunda Pierce, 16, as she waited to get her nails done for prom.

In the past, two queens were chosen -- one white, one black.

But not everyone in the town of 4,400, famous for its peanuts and Fire Ant Festival, was breaking with the past.

The "white prom" still went on last week.

"We did everything like a regular prom just because we had already booked it," said, Cheryl Nichols, 18, who attended the dance.

Nichole Royal, 18, said black students could have gone to the prom, but didn't.

"I guess they feel like they're not welcome," she said.

Nichols said while her parents were in support of the integrated prom, some of her friends weren't allowed to go.

"If they're not coming tonight it's because either they had to work and they couldn't get out of it or because their parents are still having an issue because they grew up in south Georgia," she said.

"I've asked, 'Why can't you come?' and they're like, 'My mommy and daddy -- they don't agree with being with the colored people,' which I think is crazy," she said.

Stone said he doesn't plan to stop the private proms.

"That's going to be up to the parents. That's part of being in America. If they want to do that for the kids, then that's fine," he said.


Looking toward the future

Outside the prom on Saturday, parents and relatives of students talked as the students filed into the Turner Civic Center.

"If they are picking so much for it to be united, why was there a prom last week for the white, when they are supposed to be united for tonight?" asked Lisa Hall.

Valerie McKellar echoed that sentiment as she watched white and black students pose together.

"That is so fake. There is nothing real about that," she said.

"That's just like you're cooking a half-baked cake, putting the icing on it, and when you cut the cake, the cake ain't no good. That's how this prom is," she said.

McKellar said the prom was a good step, but more needs to be done.

"There is a time and season for all things, and right now it's time for Turner County to make a change."

A success in the students' eyes

Inside the auditorium, students put the controversy aside and danced for hours. Stone said he was pleased with the outcome. About 150 students, including some dates from other schools, attended.

Students leaving the prom praised the evening.

"We been separated for a while. I sure appreciate how the school got all of us together, and we had a blast" said John Holmes, 16.

Aneisha Gipson, who was crowned prom queen, said the night could not have been better.

"Amazing. It was absolutely amazing. It was perfect."

Superintendent Ray Jordan said he couldn't be more proud of Stone and his students.

"If I could write this story it would be a story of celebration of students making a difference for themselves and for future students. I believe they wanted to leave their mark, and I certainly believe they've done that."

[RealSNR]

Crazy! :rolleyes:

[4th and Long]

Welcome to 1957.

[chagrin]

Well great, here comes meme and her band of misfits

thanks dude

[chagrin]

However, I thought this was pretty funny, "There was not anybody that I can remember that was black," she said. "The white people have theirs, and the black people have theirs. It's nothing racial at all."

[Jenson71]

Some places in America just aren't like what we perceive of America. I visited south Texas earlier this year. Some neighborhoods are like visiting a 'third world country'.

[Frazod]

Some places in America just aren't like what we perceive of America. I visited south Texas earlier this year. Some neighborhoods are like visiting a 'third world country'.

Try Mississippi for third world charm. There were people in the area around Meridian living in homes constructed of old crates and garbage. Sort of like the Middle Ages, only with electricity.

[Donger]

Some places in America just aren't like what we perceive of America. I visited south Texas earlier this year. Some neighborhoods are like visiting a 'third world country'.

It's like a hole other country.

[Duck Dog]

What's wrong with willingly separating yourself? Every race does it.

[Donger]

Sort of like the Middle Ages, only with electricity.

And a satellite dish.

[Mr. Plow]

Valerie McKellar echoed that sentiment as she watched white and black students pose together.

"That is so fake. There is nothing real about that," she said.


Ya. It's like totally fake man. White people AND black people standing together? Like, what has this world come to man.

[Sully]

Next thing you know, Kevin Bacon will be moving into town and playing chicken on a tractor.

[Frazod]

And a satellite dish.

I was last there in 1984.

And I WON'T be going back.

[Lzen]

Is this a joke? This article, I mean. I had no idea this kind of thing still goes on in America. WTF?

[ChiTown]

Is this a joke? This article, I mean. I had no idea this kind of thing still goes on in America. WTF?

Welcome to the South!

[Frazod]

Next thing you know, Kevin Bacon will be moving into town and playing chicken on a tractor.

He'd just get strung up for his trouble. The yankee bastard.

[PunkinDrublic]

Cue up the dueling banjos.

[the Talking Can]

everyone knows that racism is a thing of the past...

[Chief Faithful]

Welcome to the South!

Neil Young? Is that you?

[CoMoChief]

Georgia has some ****ed up legislation from this to the HS football recruit that got 10 yrs in prison for receiving oral sex from a 15yr old (he was 17) because in GA it's a felony, however having sexual intercourse with her would have only been a misdemeanor.

[UL Washington]

So what do they call each prom to differentiate them? They can't actually call one the "black" prom and one the "white" prom.

[mikey23545]

everyone knows that racism is a thing of the past...

The only reason it is news is it <i>is</i> so relatively rare in the present age.

[Chief Faithful]

Georgia has some ****ed up legislation from this to the HS football recruit that got 10 yrs in prison for receiving oral sex from a 15yr old (he was 17) because in GA it's a felony, however having sexual intercourse with her would have only been a misdemeanor.

It was a felony, but the law has since changed it is a misdemeanor if the consenting are within 4 years of age. Although the new law does not have a provision to force a review of old cases.

The case you are speaking of can be retired if the DA agrees, but they won't agree because they feel the youth in question actually raped the 17 year old girl at the same party. Of course, they won't let us see the tape so the public can judge. :)

[afchiefs]

This has David Duke banging his head on his desk.

"We been separated for a while. I sure appreciate how the school got all of us together, and we had a blast" said John Holmes, 16.

But on a funny note, would you let your daughter go to prom with a kid named John Holmes.

[Lzen]

Georgia - the most backwards state in the union?

[Mile High Mania]

Wow... didn't realize this still was happening. Crazy.

[Iowanian]

I would like to see a photo of the event, of the faces of the black students when the white bread started trying to "drop it like its hot" when Lionel Richie came on.


There has been talk about that event for a few years now....Its an area with more blacks than whites I believe, and I thought a couple of years ago the articles basically said it was a mutual feeling that each had their own event.

I'm glad it went well for those who attended, and it doesn't sound like the Kids were the ones with the problems. I"m just glad someone like the Phelptards or the Klan didn't make an issue of it.

[HolmeZz]

Georgia's a really f*cked up state.

[stlchiefs]

It was a felony, but the law has since changed it is a misdemeanor if the consenting are within 4 years of age. Although the new law does not have a provision to force a review of old cases.

The case you are speaking of can be retired if the DA agrees, but they won't agree because they feel the youth in question actually raped the 17 year old girl at the same party. Of course, they won't let us see the tape so the public can judge. :)

I thought it was because he rejected their plea deal unlike the other guys in the hotel room. From what I've read the Pros. Att. is a dick and said the kid decided to roll the dice, fight the charges and lost. He said if the kid would've just plead he'd be out by now.

The guy didn't want to plead because he would've had to list as a Sexual Predator for life.

[Spott]

It does seem crazy, but it is still like that here in the South.

[ChiTown]

Neil Young? Is that you?

Nah.

I'm more of a Lynyrd Skynyrd fan.......

[vailpass]

Some white kids just signed their social death warrant and closed a few doors within the business sector of their home town.

[TrebMaxx]

This has David Duke banging his head on his desk.

"We been separated for a while. I sure appreciate how the school got all of us together, and we had a blast" said John Holmes, 16.

But on a funny note, would you let your daughter go to prom with a kid named John Holmes.

Ironic you mentioned this because when I first saw the thread title I thought I read "Georgia school has first intergrated porn"
:)

[stlchiefs]

Some white kids just signed their social death warrant and closed a few doors within the business sector of their home town.

Hopefully for them their getting out of the assbackwards place

[Megbert]

Hey my boss is from Georgia. He's a 'good ol boy' and by good ol boy I mean he describes himself as "a step or 2 right of the KKK" Let me tell ya he's fun to work with. I love when he makes some questionable remark and the girls I work with get this look of shock and awe at what he just said.

[LTforMVP]

Hey my boss is from Georgia. He's a 'good ol boy' and by good ol boy I mean he describes himself as "a step or 2 right of the KKK" Let me tell ya he's fun to work with. I love when he makes some questionable remark and the girls I work with get this look of shock and awe at what he just said.

You work with Don Imus?

[Megbert]

You work with Don Imus?
Where Don Imus makes comments just to make them or to be 'shocking' my boss believes what he's saying. His wife is the same way when they tell a story about someone that worked for them in the past they have to point out that they were 'black'. Like "We had this one woman that did our bookkeeping (pause) she was black" Once they called us after they had just left to make sure we locked the front doors (during business hours) because they saw a couple shady black people walking around" Good times.

[Adept Havelock]

Some white kids just signed their social death warrant and closed a few doors within the business sector of their home town.

Yep, all those fantastic business opportunites missed in a town of 4,419 (2000 census). ROFL ROFL ROFL

That'll give them incentive to move out of that little place, which will only help it die as more of their peers see their success and do the same. Just like many other backwards little burgs elsewhere. Granted it's the county seat so there will always be a few extras from Deliverance hanging on. Heck, some of them may even keep fighting to bring back the early 1800's....if they can put down the jug long enough to remember where they left Grandpa Kleagles robes.


Not to mention the likely benefit of leading to even more interracial marriages as the kids get older. It'll be tough to be a bigot (I'm certainly not calling you one, but the town clearly has issues) when everybody is varying shades of brown with slightly slanting eyes in the next few dozen generations. Like Carlin said, keep screwing till we're all the same color! :D

[vailpass]

Yep, all those fantastic business opportunites missed in a town of 4,419 (2000 census). ROFL ROFL ROFL

That'll give them incentive to move out of that little place, which will only help it die as more of their peers see their success and do the same. Just like many other backwards little burgs elsewhere. Granted it's the county seat so there will always be a few extras from Deliverance hanging on. Heck, some of them may even keep fighting to bring back the early 1800's....if they can put down the jug long enough to remember where they left Grandpa Kleagles robes.


Not to mention the likely benefit of leading to even more interracial marriages as the kids get older. It'll be tough to be a bigot (I'm certainly not calling you one, but the town clearly has issues) when everybody is varying shades of brown with slightly slanting eyes in the next few dozen generations. Like Carlin said, keep screwing till we're all the same color! :D

According to your rules, what is the minimum population number required for a kid to want an opportunity in his hometown?
What is the minimum pop.number for a white girl not to want to be called ****** lover?
There are plenty that would disagree with your blanket assumption that interracial breeding is a good thing.

[StcChief]

Welcome to the South!

Just ask them "The South will rise again"

The Civil war never ended it's just a long half time.

[Adept Havelock]

According to your rules, what is the minimum population number required for a kid to want an opportunity in his hometown?

My rules? :hmmm: Not sure what you mean there. Are you asking a hypothetical question as to what my rules would be if I were in charge of that charming little (but now a little less) backwards burg? Easy. I'd turn the job over to the first person that wanted it and get the hell out.

That said, provided your initial assumption is true, I'm sure for every opportunity lost by a kid in that situation, another business owner would offer one. For every business owner prejudiced against skin color, I'm sure there's another prejudiced against racism and stupidity. Call it a wash, IMO.

Like I said, if they can't, it'll encourage them to look beyond the borders of podunkville.


What is the minimum pop.number for a white girl not to want to be called ****** lover?
Having seen my own Sister go through it when it was far more of a public issue in a certain very redneck town, I can safely say it certainly strengthened her and her (eventual) husbands relationship. At least, that's what they have told me. :shrug:

Besides, that's on the idiot that calls them that, not the kid. Any decent parent would help the kid understand that as well, as ours did when we caught flack from fools for playing with kids of a different color or race.


There are plenty that would disagree with your blanket assumption that interracial breeding is a good thing

Plenty?

:spock:

Can't be too many of them, or a town having a segregated prom up until this year wouldn't be unusual at all.

There will always be a few idiots whining about interracial relationships, in any racial grouping. Thankfully, it seems their numbers drop a little more every year. :D

My hope is that when those yammerheads largely die out, they will take the Don Imus and Al Sharptons of the world with them.

BTW- It's not a blanket assumption. It's not always a good thing. For example, stupid people will often make stupid kids, who will grow up to be stupid adults. In some instances, those kids might be so stupid they'll eventually think that mere skin color is a good reason not to date/marry/reproduce with someone.

[vailpass]

Having seen my own Sister go through it when it was far more of a public issue in a certain very redneck town, I can safely say it certainly strengthened her and her (eventual) husbands relationship. At least, that's what they have told me. :shrug:

one.

Your assumption that this town or any other is not worth living in if they don't conform with your racial views is arrogant and exclusive.
I see you have a personal stake in this as your sister is one of those folks so I'll withdraw from conversing with you on this subject.

[Adept Havelock]

Your assumption that this town or any other is not worth living in if they don't conform with your racial views is arrogant and exclusive.Is it any more arrogant and exclusive than the position you seem to be defending (i.e. that mere skin color is an adequate reason to refuse to associate/date/love/marry/breed with another Homo Sapien)? I think not.
I see you have a personal stake in this as your sister is one of those folks so I'll withdraw from conversing with you on this subject."those folks?" :hmmm: If she's one of "those people"....nevermind. :shake:

Psst...I'm "one of those folks too". I'm also quite sure there are far more of "us" (or are closer to our position on the issue) than there are of...well, I'll choose to be optimistic and say "them".

It's a fight that has taken generations, and will take more, but "we" are clearly winning, and it is well worth fighting for. For every Lamb and Lynx Gaede, there are millions of kids who couldn't care less about the skin color of their playmate/boyfriend/girlfriend. And they are not likely to change that attitude, and pass it on to the next generation. With drops of water, even a mountain of racism will be eroded over the years.

I'm sure there will always be a few racists around, and I've certainly enjoyed watching them get increasingly marginalized over the years. I'm sure her kids will do the same.

[vailpass]

Is it any more arrogant and exclusive than the position you seem to be defending (i.e. that mere skin color is an adequate reason to refuse to associate/date/love/marry/breed with another Homo Sapien)? I think not.



"those folks?" :hmmm: If she's one of "those people"....nevermind. :shake:

Psst...I'm "one of those folks too". I'm also quite sure there are far more of "us" (or are closer to our position on the issue) than there are of...well, I'll be nice and say "them".

It's a fight that has taken generations, and will take more, but "we" are clearly winning, and it is well worth fighting for. For every Lamb and Lynx Gaede, there are millions of kids who couldn't care less about the skin color of their playmate/boyfriend/girlfriend. IMNSHO. :D

I'm sure there will always be a few racists around, and I've certainly enjoyed watching them get increasingly marginalized over the years. I'm sure her kids will do the same.

See? This is a perfect example of why you can't discuss this case rationally.

I ask you why the size of a town should matter when it comes to children being stigmatized or denied employment opportunity because they attended a mixed race prom and you turn it into "that mere skin color is an adequate reason to refuse to associate/date/love/marry/breed with another [I]Homo Sapien[/I"
and then go to "there are lots more people who approve of bi-racial dating than not (paraphrase)" then finish with "I"m one of those" (what, you married a black guy?) Uh, ok. Nice off-subject rant.

You are obviously nowhere near to being objective on the issue.

[Adept Havelock]

See? This is a perfect example of why you can't discuss this case rationally.

I ask you why the size of a town should matter when it comes to children being stigmatized or denied employment opportunity because they attended a mixed race prom and you turn it into "that mere skin color is an adequate reason to refuse to associate/date/love/marry/breed with another [I]Homo Sapien[/I"
and then go to "there are lots more people who approve of bi-racial dating than not (paraphrase)" Uh, ok.

You are obviously nowhere near to being objective on the issue.


I don't claim to being objective on the issue, but I think I'm quite rational.

To answer your question, "why should the size of the town matter"? Simple. If kids are constantly confronted with that nonsense in a major metropolis, than racism and segregation is much more of an issue than if it occurs in a podunk town of 4,000 in the deep south.

As I said, it's a long, long fight. Marginalization and insults from racists is part of the price of that fight. Is it fair? No. Is it right? No. Is it worthwhile? IMO, most certainly yes.

Now, here's my question, which I refrained from asking earlier. Why do you refer to my Sister as one of "Those People"? If she (and I ) are "those people", what's your take on the issue? IMO, you are clearly defending those that think skin color is a good reason to refuse to associate/date/etc.. Is that your view as well, or are you just playing Devil's Advocate? Obviously, I would hope for the latter, but if it's the former, well, it's your choice. :shrug:

[RJ]

I thought you said "integrated porn". Never mind.

[listopencil]

Is that your view as well, or are you just playing Devil's Advocate? :shrug:


I'd like to hear the answer to that question.

[vailpass]

I don't claim to being objective on the issue, but I think I'm quite rational.

To answer your question, "why should the size of the town matter"? Simple. If kids are constantly confronted with that nonsense in a major metropolis, than racism and segregation is much more of an issue than if it occurs in a podunk town of 4,000 in the deep south.

As I said, it's a long, long fight. Marginalization and insults from racists is part of the price of that fight. Is it fair? No. Is it right? No. Is it worthwhile, IMO, most certainly yes.

Now, here's my question, which I refrained from asking earlier. Why do you refer to my Sister as one of "Those People"? If she (and I ) are "those people", what's your take on the issue? IMO, you are clearly defending those that think skin color is a good reason to refuse to associate/date/etc.. Is that your view as well, or are you just playing Devil's Advocate? Obviously, I would hope for the latter, but if it's the former, well, it's your choice. :shrug:

Why don't you just say it? You have a hatred towards the people of that town becasue they are the same kind of people who called your sister a mudshark and wouldn't welcome you or her into their circle? In a lot of ways that doesn't make you any better than them.

Again your emotions cloud your judgement. I NEVER referred to your sister as one of "Those People". You started to speak about interracial marriage and the people involved and I said I questioned your objectivity since your sister was one of those folks.

You are cool with mixed race relationships, others aren't. If you expect to be let to live and let live why aren't you willing to give the same?

[Thig Lyfe]

The South really shouldn't count as America.

[Adept Havelock]

Why don't you just say it? You have a hatred towards the people of that town becasue they are the same kind of people who called your sister a mudshark and wouldn't welcome you or her into their circle? In a lot of ways that doesn't make you any better than them.

Again your emotions cloud your judgement. I NEVER referred to your sister as one of "Those People". You started to speak about interracial marriage and the people involved and I said I questioned your objectivity since your sister was one of those folks.

You are cool with mixed race relationships, others aren't. If you expect to be let to live and let live why aren't you willing to give the same?

Thanks for your amateur psychoanalysis, but I know we all have our prejudices. I'm prejudiced against racists, and the willfully ignorant. It's a failing I'll freely admit.

Yes, on this topic my emotions "cloud" my judgement. Partly from seeing what holding and teaching views like that does to people, and partly because I seriously doubt you (or indeed anyone) has a rationale in defense of segregation or opposing mixed-race dating I haven't heard already.

I see you have a personal stake in this as your sister is one of those folks so I'll withdraw from conversing with you on this subject.

Sorry if I misinterpreted your use of "those folks". Mea Cupla.

I can't help noticing you didn't answer my question after I did you the courtesy of answering yours.

That's OK. Live, and let live. ;)

[vailpass]

Thanks for your amateur psychoanalysis, but I know we all have our prejudices. I'm prejudiced against racists, and the willfully ignorant. It's a failing I'll freely admit.

Yes, on this topic my emotions "cloud" my judgement. Partly from seeing what views like that do to people, and partly because I seriously doubt you (or indeed anyone) has a rationale in defense of segregation or opposing mixed-race dating I haven't heard already.


Sorry if I misinterpreted your use of "those folks". Mea Cupla.

I can't help noticing you didn't answer my question after I did you the courtesy of answering yours.

That's OK. Live, and let live. ;)

Sorry for not answering your question. In my experience skin color alone is not a good determinant for choosing people with whom to associate.

[Adept Havelock]

Sorry for not answering your question. In my experience skin color alone is not a good determinant for choosing people with whom to associate.


I'd agree with that. Thanks for the response. Have a good night, man.

[Dallas Chief]

Some places in America just aren't like what we perceive of America. I visited south Texas earlier this year. Some neighborhoods are like visiting a 'third world country'.
Coming from the urban empire that is IA... :LOL:

[PunkinDrublic]

Coming from the urban empire that is IA... :LOL:

As he sits atop his ivory barn.

[Dallas Chief]

As he sits atop his ivory barn.
Do you feel this whole "racial division thing" here in Dallas? I sure don't. We have families in my neighborhood of all races, religions. Not sure if there are any "alternative families" on our block but oh well. It has been that way everywhere I have lived in the south. We all come out for a Halloween block party- except for the Jehovah's Witness family. I never figured that one out.

Now my time in Minnesota- talk about segregation...

[listopencil]

We all come out for a Halloween block party- except for the Jehovah's Witness family. I never figured that one out.




They don't believe in celebrating anything worldly, IIRC.

[Adept Havelock]

They don't believe in celebrating anything worldly, IIRC.


I bet they host lame keggers too.

[listopencil]

I bet they host lame keggers too.


Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy. Or...not...I guess.

[Eric]

Blacks have their own culture.Whites have their own too. These proms are looking more stupid ghetto gangster every day.

[Eric]

My rules? :hmmm: Not sure what you mean there. Are you asking a hypothetical question as to what my rules would be if I were in charge of that charming little (but now a little less) backwards burg? Easy. I'd turn the job over to the first person that wanted it and get the hell out.

That said, provided your initial assumption is true, I'm sure for every opportunity lost by a kid in that situation, another business owner would offer one. For every business owner prejudiced against skin color, I'm sure there's another prejudiced against racism and stupidity. Call it a wash, IMO.

Like I said, if they can't, it'll encourage them to look beyond the borders of podunkville.


Having seen my own Sister go through it when it was far more of a public issue in a certain very redneck town, I can safely say it certainly strengthened her and her (eventual) husbands relationship. At least, that's what they have told me. :shrug:

Besides, that's on the idiot that calls them that, not the kid. Any decent parent would help the kid understand that as well, as ours did when we caught flack from fools for playing with kids of a different color or race.



Plenty?

:spock:

Can't be too many of them, or a town having a segregated prom up until this year wouldn't be unusual at all.

There will always be a few idiots whining about interracial relationships, in any racial grouping. Thankfully, it seems their numbers drop a little more every year. :D



There are alot of people who don't want their family in interracial relations. It has nothing to do with being an idiot or insensitive. People usually want their offspring to be with their own religous groups and cultures & race. It's about history ,keeping the culture,religion & genes.

[vailpass]

Coming from the urban empire that is IA... :LOL:

Iowans are among the best educated, least preudiced people I've ever met.
I also know some people from Beaumont, TX who would be in favor of reinstating slavery. I'm pretty sure you could walk all day through Iowa without getting that same opinion but it woldn't take 5 minutes in Odessa to get a yes vote.
You can paint Texas as many things but never try to pass it off as a state that has any right to point fingers when it comes to redneck racist crackers, the place is full of them even if you claim to not know any personally.

[Chief Faithful]

I thought it was because he rejected their plea deal unlike the other guys in the hotel room. From what I've read the Pros. Att. is a dick and said the kid decided to roll the dice, fight the charges and lost. He said if the kid would've just plead he'd be out by now.

The guy didn't want to plead because he would've had to list as a Sexual Predator for life.

If he would've plead he would be out now, but he would have lost his scholarships and been on the Sexual Predator list.

[Chief Faithful]

The South really shouldn't count as America.

I think the South would generally agree to secession except for all those Northerners that keep coming down here and messin the place up.

[Saulbadguy]

I'm glad it went well for those who attended, and it doesn't sound like the Kids were the ones with the problems. I"m just glad someone like the Phelptards or the Klan didn't make an issue of it.
Kind of ironic, but the Phelps clan are very opposed to racism. They were all set to picket a KKK rally here in Topeka until the KKK backed out.

[Saulbadguy]

Some white kids just signed their social death warrant and closed a few doors within the business sector of their home town.
What a shame. :)

[Dallas Chief]

Iowans are among the best educated, least preudiced people I've ever met.
I also know some people from Beaumont, TX who would be in favor of reinstating slavery. I'm pretty sure you could walk all day through Iowa without getting that same opinion but it woldn't take 5 minutes in Odessa to get a yes vote.
You can paint Texas as many things but never try to pass it off as a state that has any right to point fingers when it comes to redneck racist crackers, the place is full of them even if you claim to not know any personally.
Hey Professor! He said some parts of Texas were like a third world country. I was simply pointing out the fact that Iowa isn't the most urban state in the union. Hey, but they sure are lucky to have you around to defend their intellectual aptitude. But all things the same, you can kiss my arse. How about that??? :moon:

[vailpass]

Hey Professor! He said some parts of Texas were like a third world country. I was simply pointing out the fact that Iowa isn't the most urban state in the union. Hey, but they sure are lucky to have you around to defend their intellectual aptitude. But all things the same, you can kiss my arse. How about that??? :moon:

LMAO Ah wadn't lookin' to offend y'all, sorry if it come out thataway.

[Dallas Chief]

LMAO Ah wadn't lookin' to offend y'all, sorry if it come out thataway.
Sorry I was out shoveling the shee-it outta my back yard. Got the mayor comin over tonite to test a new batch of shiner. I was just makin a good bit of sport out of ya. But remember, Don't Mess with...Texas :p

[vailpass]

Sorry I was out shoveling the shee-it outta my back yard. Got the mayor comin over tonite to test a new batch of shiner. I was just makin a good bit of sport out of ya. But remember, Don't Mess with...Texas :p
LMAO

[Adept Havelock]

There are alot of people who don't want their family in interracial relations. It has nothing to do with being an idiot or insensitive. People usually want their offspring to be with their own religous groups and cultures & race. It's about history ,keeping the culture,religion & genes.

To-may-to, To-Mah-to. IMO and experience, it's usually because it allows them to maintain the illusion that their pigmentation somehow makes them "superior". :shake:


Yes, on this topic my emotions "cloud" my judgement. Partly from seeing what holding and teaching views like that does to people, and partly because I seriously doubt you (or indeed anyone) has a rationale in defense of segregation or opposing mixed-race dating I haven't heard already.


Thanks for reinforcing that point for me.

[Chiefmanwillcatch]

Georgia isn't ****ed up.

Have you seen the ghetto grinding proms of today.

I could understand blacks wanting their own dance music and grindingdancing which is being banned in a lot of proms.

White traditional monitored proms are probably not their thing.

[HolmeZz]

Somebody forgot one.

[HonestChieffan]

Its difficult to have an opinion on any issue and not have someone label you for it.

If you dont care for rural Missouri then stay where you are and we can all do just fine.

[ClevelandBronco]

Georgia's a really f*cked up state.

Of course. They gave us Jimmy Carter after all.

[Chiefmanwillcatch]

To-may-to, To-Mah-to. IMO and experience, it's usually because it allows them to maintain the illusion that their pigmentation somehow makes them "superior". :shake:



Thanks for reinforcing that point for me.

Your opinion is wrong. People of different cultures,religions and races do want to stay within their own kind. There is NOTHING wrong with that.

Are you going to next say that we need a one world religion because we have separate religions?

White Irish citizens marrying other white Irish citizens are doing this because they are racists and hate blacks?

[Adept Havelock]

Your opinion is wrong.
ROFL

That's your opinion. I obviously disagree.


People of different cultures,religions and races do want to stay within their own kind.
Some do, some don't. Give it a few dozen more generations with our ability to travel, and the vast majority of humanity will be various shades of "yellow" and "brown". It's just human nature.

BTW- I was unaware of any other "Kind" than Homo Sapien. Did you bump into a pack of Homo Erectus or Homo Neanderthalensis somewhere? If so, please let the Anthropology department at your local university know. They will be thrilled.

There is NOTHING wrong with that.
The only way I see it's "wrong" is if it's done in the name of some inane idea of "racial purity". I'm not too concerned as I said earlier in this thread, as our society has mostly tossed racism onto the ash-heap of history. :shrug:


Are you going to next say that we need a one world religion because we have separate religions?

I couldn't care less what superstition anyone chooses to follow, as long as you leave me out of it, and don't expect other institutions to change their fundamentals to accommodate it.

White Irish citizens marrying other white Irish citizens are doing this because they are racists and hate blacks?
Nah, sometimes they marry Black Irish. ;)

[Rain Man]

And in the middle of all of this, the school's lone Asian kid stands drinking punch in the middle of an empty gym.

[Adept Havelock]

And in the middle of all of this, the school's lone Asian kid stands drinking punch in the middle of an empty gym.

ROFL