Clayton: Raiders Pick Depends on the Chiefs and Trent Green

[doomy3]

This is interesting :hmmm:

Trent Green-QB-Chiefs Apr. 23 - 11:22 pm et


ESPN's John Clayton reports the Raiders intend to draft Calvin Johnson with the No. 1 pick if the Dolphins acquire Trent Green from Kansas City.

Clayton's theory is that the whole top part of the draft depends on the future of Trent Green. If Green goes to Miami, Daunte Culpepper will be cut and Oakland would then sign him. Clayton says if a Green trade can't be worked out, the Raiders will be forced to draft JaMarcus Russell.

http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.aspx?sport=NFL&id=1350

[the Talking Can]

huh

[BigRock]

If that was true, why in the world would they tell anyone? So don't do the trade until after Oakland picks and screw 'em over. That's pretty easy.

[nychief]

A year ago Damon Huard was a third string qb. Now he has directly effected three NFL teams starting qb situations.

[booger]

Culpepper likely gets cut regardless what happens with Trent.

[Mr. Flopnuts]

If that was true, why in the world would they tell anyone? So don't do the trade until after Oakland picks and screw 'em over. That's pretty easy.


Yeah. What he said. I hope we specifically wait until draft day now.

[Bugeater]

If Green goes to Miami, Daunte Culpepper will be cut and Oakland would then sign him
ROFL Culpepper is a train wreck. Oh God, please let that happen.

[Eleazar]

I don't understand this either, Culpepper is going to be looking for work no matter what happens with Green.

[TinyEvel]

Nah, I think we're going to ignore this and hold out for a DT with an artificial leg and a drug addiction plus restraining order from the baby-momma.

[doomy3]

who would have thought Trent Green would influence the whole draft?

[Silock]

Umm... fine with me. I'd rather them take Calvin Johnson than someone who can get him the ball.

[Gravedigger]

I don't doubt that the creative minds behind the Oakland Raiders would put the future of their franchise on the knees of a brokedown quarterback but honestly if Al Davis takes Calvin Johnson that will be the biggest waste of a career ever.

[Logical]

I think Clayton is sourcing Clayton. This makes very little sense.

[Valiant]

Wow Trent is that powerful, he must be worth a first then...

[el borracho]

The Raiders may have trouble deciding who to draft but I seriously doubt it has anything to do with Trent Green.

[Warrior5]

Three possibilities here:

1. Clayton is on dope.

2. Simple smokescreen / disinformation from Greasy Al.

3. Typical strategy from Greasy Al.

Clayton evidently thinks Trent's situation will have HUGE repercussions throughout the league; I can't even imagine what would be happening right now if the Chiefs hadn't re-signed Scanlon.

[Mecca]

If they did draft Johnson and get Culpepper there is you know this chance he could be good again......

I don't like that it gives Oakland to many pieces and the head and shoulders best player in this draft.

[siberian khatru]

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[Stinger]

Is it just me or is the Media hoping for a Culpepper - Moss Reunion. That is the only thing I can believe that they are getting out this article

[Brock]

I don't think Culpepper will ever be healthy again. Certainly playing behind that offensive line wouldn't be good for him.

[Extra Point]

Clayton wasn't invited to the "Love Boat" in Minnestota, so he wants a second chance if it's moved to the Bay.

At the rate his head grows, he could strap on a head cam, tattoo "ESPN/NFL Network" on his forehead, inhale helium, and become more useful in helping televise games.

[StcChief]

Is it just me or is the Media hoping for a Culpepper - Moss Reunion. That is the only thing I can believe that they are getting out this article
That's how I took it too.... Redo of that 'dynamic duo' now broken down.

Sounds like wishful thinking with future story implications.

[GoHuge]

:lame: Not even the Raiders are this dumb. In a perfect red and gold world we can hope, but seriously.

[doomy3]

:lame: Not even the Raiders are this dumb. In a perfect red and gold world we can hope, but seriously.


I'm not so sure it's dumb at all. Maybe they aren't as sold on either of the QBs as they have appeared to be. Culpepper might actually be better than Russel, and Calvin Johnson is a beast. Plus, then they could easily move Moss/Porter for a pick or so. The Packers would definitely give up something for Moss. Then they can draft a Stanton or someone in the second round.

[Mr. Laz]

OSTED 1:32 p.m. EDT, April 24, 2007

IS JOHN CLAYTON NUTS?

Sorry, John. We know you just got some fancy-shmancy lifetime achievement award from the PFWA, so we probably should play nice.

But you also should be glad that the voters cast their ballots before they got an earful of your theory that Trent Green is somehow the key to the 2007 draft.

We hadn't heard about this specific thought process until the Poobah's cousin Josh called this morning and said, "Is John Clayton on drugs?"

"Not that I know of," was the response. But after Josh explained Clayton's belief that the Raiders will take receiver Calvin Johnson with the No. 1 overall pick if the Chiefs trade Green to the Dolphins, I asked Josh: "Is John Clayton on drugs?"

Clayton's hypothesis is that, if the Chiefs trade Green to the Dolphins before the draft, the Dolphins will eventually cut Daunte Culpepper. With Daunte Culpepper likely to be on the market, Raiders owner Al Davis then will decide that he doesn't need to take quarterback JaMarcus Russell with the No. 1 overall pick in the draft.

But even though many in the media are writing off the ability of Davis to make good decisions in light of his age and health, we think that his mind is as sharp as it ever was. Though we believe that the Raiders should take Johnson, the possible ability to sign a potentially washed-up quarterback with limited mobility will be enough to get the Raiders not to take Russell.

The biggest flaw in Clayton's argument is that he assumes that if Green isn't traded to the Fins by the end of the week, Culpepper won't be cut by the Raiders before the start of the season. But there's no way that the Chiefs will keep Green at his $7.2 million salary, and the Fins won't sign Green and keep Culpepper at $5.5 million. So even if the Fins don't get Green by Saturday, it's a safe bet that they eventually will -- and that Culpepper eventually will be available.

We also think that Clayton's argument presumes that the Chiefs are too stupid to realize that they should delay the trade of Trent Green until after the Raiders exercise the No. 1 overall pick. With the Dolphins selecting at No. 9 and the Chiefs twiddling their thumbs until No. 23, there will be plenty of time on Saturday afternoon to get the deal done, if the Chiefs hope to keep Davis from concluding that he should take Johnson because he's got a chance to get Culpepper.

The bottom line, then, is that the question of whether the Raiders take Johnson over Russell or Russell over Johnson has nothing at all to do with whether Trent Green gets traded to the Dolphins before Saturday at noon.

POSTED 11:46 a.m. EDT; LAST UPDATED 12:05 p.m. EDT, April 24, 2007

TEAMS FINALLY GET THE COMBINE DRUG TEST RESULTS

A league source tells us that the NFL finally has disseminated the list of players who tested positive for drugs or steroids or other banned substances at the February combine.

The source won't say who tested positive (that's okay -- someone will eventually blab), but the source says that "no one important" is on the list of guys whose liquid waste product was determined to have stuff in it that it shouldn't have had. In it.

The number of positive results, we're told, is more than one and less than five. We're also told that no one who would have been drafted on the first day (i.e., in rounds one through three) is on the list.

Anyone who tests positive at the combine either is really stupid or has a substance-abuse/steroid problem. They all know when the combine will occur, and they all know they'll be tested there.

In fact, we've heard rumors in the past of players going on marijuana binges after giving their samples, and then bragging about it to other players at the combine.

So just because a guy didn't test positive doesn't mean that he won't potentially be a problem. All it means is that he is smart enough to know not to show up in Indy with a dirty bladder.