The Chiefs offically changing their name. . .

[percysnow]

to the Cheaps. . .

they better find a way to keep LJ. . .i dont know why everyone on this site seems to think that the chiefs are gonna rebuild with a a couple of lousy draft picks. . if u look back in recent history our only good player to come out of a draft is . . .hmmmm. . . Larry Johnson. . .and now once he's developed into a stud we want to trade him for a couple of never have been, could be's??????? damn this offseason is driving me nutz. . .

and DJ is pretty good, but its too early to tell

[oldandslow]

Derrick Johnson, Paige, Pollard, Colquit...

We are rebuilding, Percy.

Which, imo, is an excellent idea.

[El Jefe]

I dont even think he will last 8 years. Thats too much money, I agree he should get paid but man aliven can we come back down to earth for a little bit Larry. The trade talk is speculation, they said on Espn the Chiefs have no interest in trading him. I like Larry too but thats an awful lot of money.

[Bowser]

I'd take Cheaps over The Kansas City Dumbasses, which is what we will be if we give LJ 34 million in guaranteed money.

[ChiTown]

I'd take Cheaps over The Kansas City Dumbasses, which is what we will be if we give LJ 34 million in guaranteed money.

:LOL:

Totally agree. If he wants to re-sign for something reasonable, fine. Otherwise, he can GTFO, and we'll take the picks.

[percysnow]

Derrick Johnson, Paige, Pollard, Colquit...

^^^^all unproven. . .paige and pollard are far from studs yet... colquit is good but a 3rd round pick on a punter

[StcChief]

LJ doesn't/ hasn't wanted to be here since he got here.

LJ=BS. Go run for somebody else. NJG/Iggles.

No way Chiefs pay him that kinda money. Lamar would roll over in his grave.

[Bowser]

Derrick Johnson, Paige, Pollard, Colquit...

^^^^all unproven. . .paige and pollard are far from studs yet... colquit is good but a 3rd round pick on a punter

It would be nice if we could have a vested vet All-Pro at every position.

[percysnow]

paige and pollard havent even been starters for a full season. . .lets not Crown them yet. . and DJ although solid. . hasnt been a game changing LB

[Micjones]

I'd take Cheaps over The Kansas City Dumbasses, which is what we will be if we give LJ 34 million in guaranteed money.

*Dies*

If we can get a #1 and a #2 for the guy... You move him.

[Mecca]

If he was a QB sure........you don't build winning teams overpaying your 1 dimensional back that just set a carry record, it's a ridiculously bad idea.

[cdcox]

The Chiefs are not contenders during the time LJ is at his peak. By the time we've developed and acquired the players needed to contend, LJ will be used up. It is a simple matter of the timing being wrong to justify such a huge investment. Unfortunate, but that is the NFL.

[el borracho]

Q: How is percysnow's brain like his rep?


A: They are both disabled.

[Bowser]

If he was a QB sure........you don't build winning teams overpaying your 1 dimensional back that just set a carry record, it's a ridiculously bad idea.

Agreed.

I'm a fan of his play, but he still isn't even in Tomlinson's league.

[Mecca]

*Dies*

If we can get a #1 and a #2 for the guy... You move him.

If he tells other teams that's his contract demand his trade value just plummeted like a skydiver with no parachute........

I'd let him walk for nothing before I gave him 80 million dollars.

[percysnow]

that guy carried our team last year running into unblocked d-linemen 30 plus times a game. . breaking records for carries. . and he wants to and deseves to be paid. . they will prob negotiate, but 34 guarenteed is well worth it to me. . .how quickly we forget

[Mecca]

that guy carried our team last year running into unblocked d-linemen 30 plus times a game. . breaking records for carries. . and he wants to and deseves to be paid. . they will prob negotiate, but 34 guarenteed is well worth it to me. . .how quickly we forget

You wanna pull up the history on the longevity of RB's? Especially ones that did what he just did......if anything last year is a huge red flag to not pay him. It may sound like a dick move but it's the smart move.

[BigChiefFan]

$80 million for that playoff performance? Pound sand, LJ.

[Fish]

that guy carried our team last year running into unblocked d-linemen 30 plus times a game. . breaking records for carries. . and he wants to and deseves to be paid. . they will prob negotiate, but 34 guarenteed is well worth it to me. . .how quickly we forget

There are lots of hungry young RBs that would give their all to have the opportunity to run into unblocked d-linemen 30 plus times a game. . breaking records for carries. . and I would bet there are quite a few who could do a comparable job.... and maybe block on pass plays as well....

There were lots of fans that thought Addai would never ever replace Edge.....

[Mecca]

The Colts are a good example of showing the values of positions they had 4 players to resign....Manning is still there, Harrison is still there, Wayne is still there.....James is the one who's not......

They chose Reggie Wayne over Edge James that should tell you about positional value.

[OnTheWarpath15]

If he tells other teams that's his contract demand his trade value just plummeted like a skydiver with no parachute........

I'd let him walk for nothing before I gave him 80 million dollars.

Yep.

Like I said in the other thread, we'll be lucky to get much better than the 3/3/7 deal Buffalo got for McGahee.

At this point, any decent offer may have to be taken, just to keep from getting nothing.....

[cdcox]

The Colts are a good example of showing the values of positions they had 4 players to resign....Manning is still there, Harrison is still there, Wayne is still there.....James is the one who's not......

They chose Reggie Wayne over Edge James that should tell you about positional value.

I think the value of positions depends of the offense. The Colts have invested in Manning, so it is smart for them to pay for good targets. Wayne was also at the peak of his productivity when signed, as opposed to a 7yr RB, who was probably on the down hill side of his career. For a team like the Chiefs, if they were in contention and it came down to signing a good back or a good #2 reciever, I think you'd take the good back as long as he wasn't as old as Edge.

But the Chiefs are not in contention, so $34M guaranteed does not make sense.

[Mecca]

Is that reciever as good as Reggie Wayne? I don't really consider him a 2 he's better than alot of 1's.

[StcChief]

LJ is pricing himself outta KC just like he planned all along.

Waiting for the 'Dissing talk' to begin by LJ about KC once he's on East Coast.

[Warrior5]

Derrick Johnson, Paige, Pollard, Colquit...

^^^^all unproven. . .paige and pollard are far from studs yet... colquit is good but a 3rd round pick on a punter

- DJ has proven himself as a starter for two years now, including starting his rookie season, and he's not even close to his prime yet.

- Colquitt has been pure gold for the Chiefs, and again, he will only get better. I'm very happy the Chiefs spent a 3rd round pick on him.

- Page and Pollard will get the opportunity to shine this season and next...jury is still out on them, but I'm happy with everything I've seen so far.

Back to LJ: he deserves more $. But he doesn't deserve what he's asking. I expect Carl to offer him more, but not anything close to what we've seen published so far. It's all negotiation posturing at this point.

[stlchiefs]

No mention of Hali with all the talk about draft picks? What about Jared Allen (who produces on the field).

[whtgldwldr]

I won't argue that LJ deserves some friggin money. He carried this team, on his back, into 11 man fronts.

However, for a guy with the tendency to just not try whenever he doesn't like the gameplan (watch the indy tape and tell me LJ gave it his all...) we don't need to cripple our cap numbers for the better part of the next decade to keep him around.

I would be almost devestated to see him gone, but i would be more devestated to run him into the ground in two or three years then still have to pay him for another five...making all-pro quarterback money.

We are rebuilding from the ground up this year, and if that means letting go of one of the better players on this team to do so...then so be it. Gimme as much as I can for the guy and get him the hell out.

P.S. It might help if DV came back to tell him to get his diapers off...just a thought.

[Dartgod]

paige and pollard havent even been starters for a full season. . .lets not Crown them yet. . and DJ although solid. . hasnt been a game changing LB
If you wanna crown 'em, then crown their ass!

[dj56dt58]

Is he worth it? I think so. Is he worth it to us? no..we have too many holes to fill to tie up our money in one player

[Mr. Laz]

and this couldn't be included in the other thread dedicated to LJ's contract?

[BigMeatballDave]

Derrick Johnson, Paige, Pollard, Colquit...

^^^^all unproven. . .paige and pollard are far from studs yet... colquit is good but a 3rd round pick on a punterWow. You are unequivocally not smart...

[greg63]

I dont even think he will last 8 years. Thats too much money, I agree he should get paid but man aliven can we come back down to earth for a little bit Larry. The trade talk is speculation, they said on Espn the Chiefs have no interest in trading him. I like Larry too but thats an awful lot of money.

Especially if they continue to play him like they did last season. (400+ carries.)

[Logical]

The Chiefs are not contenders during the time LJ is at his peak. By the time we've developed and acquired the players needed to contend, LJ will be used up. It is a simple matter of the timing being wrong to justify such a huge investment. Unfortunate, but that is the NFL.Well stated Mr. cdcox

[OctoberFart]

I agree that KC needs to give LJ the MAX contract but I disagree on the name change. Should be Kansas SH!tty Queefs.

[J Diddy]

I agree that KC needs to give LJ the MAX contract but I disagree on the name change. Should be Kansas SH!tty Queefs.




You should change your name to Asswind

[Pitt Gorilla]

I heard Jamal Anderson is available.

[milkman]

Q: How is percysnow's brain like his rep?


A: They are both disabled.

LMAO

So true.

[milkman]

that guy carried our team last year running into unblocked d-linemen 30 plus times a game. . breaking records for carries. . and he wants to and deseves to be paid. . they will prob negotiate, but 34 guarenteed is well worth it to me. . .how quickly we forget

Yeah, that guy carried our team to that spectacular 9-7 season.

Thank goodness every other shitty playoff contender shit their pants in the last game of the regular season so that the Chiefs, and LJ in particular, could embarrass themselves against the Colts in the first round.

[Hammock Parties]

RaidersRock was right. We ARE the cheaps.

[milkman]

Is he worth it? I think so. Is he worth it to us? no..we have too many holes to fill to tie up our money in one player

There isn't a RB in the league I'd sign to an 8 year contract.

You can't expect any of them to stay at the top of their game for that length of time.

5 years would be the max, with increments of 3 years after that.

But in LJ's case, 5 years will more than liklely be too long with the number of carries he will likely amass over that time span.

[Hammock Parties]

I doubt LJ will see most of that money. You know how these deals are set up. It's probably in reality a 5-year deal.

[Skip Towne]

I agree that KC needs to give LJ the MAX contract but I disagree on the name change. Should be Kansas SH!tty Queefs.
Why doesn't this toll get banned?

[milkman]

I doubt LJ will see most of that money. You know how these deals are set up. It's probably in reality a 5-year deal.

If he signed an 8 year contract that included 34 mil guaranteed, if he's released after year 5, that's still a fairly substantial cap hit with the acceleration.

If he restructures after 5, that's just shifting money, and you'll still be stuck with a hit somewhere.

[Tribal Warfare]

I'd take Cheaps over The Kansas City Dumbasses,

You mean Chumps :D

[Mecca]

When fans of the other teams want you to sign a deal that should be a sign of how bad it is.......

[greg63]

You mean Chumps :D

...Chimps.

[picasso]

paige and pollard havent even been starters for a full season. . .lets not Crown them yet. . and DJ although solid. . hasnt been a game changing LB

MORON!!
Pollard actually won a game single handed for us last year out of that pathetic mess of geezers we had assembled on both defense and offense.
You don't know what the hell your talking about. STFU

[J Diddy]

Why doesn't this toll get banned?

I think his name should be changed to AssWind

[kcxiv]

Derrick Johnson, Paige, Pollard, Colquit...

^^^^all unproven. . .paige and pollard are far from studs yet... colquit is good but a 3rd round pick on a punter
Colquit is well worth a 3rd rounder. Dude is a bad ass Punter, we dont have to worry about crappy punting for about hell probalby 10 years.

[Rausch]

Why doesn't this toll get banned?

Because no one's crossed him yet?...