How Has ChiefsPlanet Changed Since You Joined?

[Donger]

So, has it? If so, how? Please be specific. Has the "tone" changed? Have certain posters changed? Other?

I ask for a very specific reason, so please be honest.

Thanks.

Oh, and not a slam on noobs, but I would appreciate it if you didn't comment unless you've been a member for at least one year.

[Logical]

The posters were funnier and more caustic, sarcastic. This place used to be a blast, but it has become very blase almost boring a great deal of the time.

The other thing is we all knew each other better and it was a closer knit group.

[L.A. Chieffan]

The posters were funnier and more caustic, sarcastic. This place used to be a blast, but it has become very blase almost boring a great deal of the time.

The other thing is we all knew each other better and it was a closer knit group.
Who are you again?

[Donger]

The posters were funnier and more caustic, sarcastic. This place used to be a blast, but it has become very blase almost boring a great deal of the time.

If possible, can you put a timeframe on when you think that change happened?

The other thing is we all knew each other better and it was a closer knit group.

That's understandable.

[Hammock Parties]

It went from being a very mediocre football site to one of the greatest in the history of existence. Chiefsplanet has me to thank for that. Hold your applause. The best is yet to come.

[DaFace]

It's all my fault. Sorry about that.

[Dr. Johnny Fever]

It went from being a very mediocre football site to one of the greatest in the history of existence. Chiefsplanet has me to thank for that. Hold your applause. The best is yet to come.
When are ever gonna change your name?

[milkman]

The posters were funnier and more caustic, sarcastic. This place used to be a blast, but it has become very blase almost boring a great deal of the time.

The other thing is we all knew each other better and it was a closer knit group.

While debates got heated at times even then, it was more civil.

[Dr. Johnny Fever]

I think the planet is much better since I joined... and posts like this one prove it.

[patteeu]

Everything changed when GoChiefs showed up and made Logical his bitch. :Poke:

Which now that I notice, was only a couple of months after I got here.

[Demonpenz]

well thanks to youtube we now have video's where before we had to imagine the highlights

[CoMoChief]

I dont look at porn at all anymore. i just come here to look at blue balls avatar.

[listopencil]

When will the "diagram a play" option be put back? I liked that and it was lost during a board upgrade.

[suds79]

It has changed for the better IMO.

I used to hate the off-season because the board was always flooded with odds & ins topics.

I'm one of those sick individuals who can basically start talking draft as soon as the season is over.

So that Draft Planet is perfect for me. A nice addition.

As far as how people have changed? I don't know. I probably don't post enough to be able to answer that question.

[Brando]

FAX came and then left and then came back and then left again.

Phil was here then sort of left and then came back again.

Going into the political section makes me feel like I rolled around in a prositutes feces like it always has.

Endelt used to do fat chicks and apparently has been eaten by one or arrested on charges of elder male molestation.

And I haven't been around that long.

[keg in kc]

Used to be more of a community, while it did get confrontational at times, there was more discussion and less bickering. I think it started to change around 2003-2004. That may, however, just be my perception, because that coincides with my divorce, and I've spent a great deal less time here since. It may have seemed more close-knit to me simply because I was here more.

[wutamess]

There was less people to keep up with.
JOhn & GoChiefs had classic arguments.
Phil kept this place in order.
Offseasons are the same every year.

Washington D.C. created or the main forum would be full of only political threads.

However... still the same Planet

[PinkFloyd]

There was less people to keep up with.
JOhn & GoChiefs had classic arguments.
Phil kept this place in order.
Offseasons are the same every year.

Washington D.C. created or the main forum would be full of only political threads.

However... still the same Planet

I miss JOhn on here also... He's the one who told me about this place... I still talk to him from time to time...

[Logical]

If possible, can you put a timeframe on when you think that change happened?



That's understandable.Somewhere around late 2003 to early 2004. It interestingly enough is lost in the great database purge. But it was the the time of the great nightcrew threads. Gaz ruled the day. Day posting was for civility for the most part, night posting was for unbridled insanity.

[Donger]

It went from being a very mediocre football site to one of the greatest in the history of existence. Chiefsplanet has me to thank for that. Hold your applause. The best is yet to come.

Do you have anything worthwhile to add?

[Hammock Parties]

Do you have anything worthwhile to add?

I haven't noticed a great deal of change to be honest with you. Apart from me getting banned every offseason and being a subject of constant controversy. I think that was the '02 offseason.

[NaptownChief]

Used to be more of a community, while it did get confrontational at times, there was more discussion and less bickering. I think it started to change around 2003-2004. That may, however, just be my perception, because that coincides with my divorce, and I've spent a great deal less time here since. It may have seemed more close-knit to me simply because I was here more.


I would agree with this....It seemed to be an older more mature, closer nit crowd. Somewhere around 2005 it seemed to have a big influx of younger fans that don't even remember era's as recent as the Barry Word's of the Chiefs world. In the first couple years I had about 14-15k posts, in the last couple years I probably haven't posted another 500. There use to be more football discussed and seemed like a lot more passion about Chiefs football. I don't know if the demographics of the board caused that to change or the continued struggles of Carl Peterson and the lack of success has caused it...but it has changed and not for the better from my perspective.

[blueballs]

I brought back chivalry and
erased fear of using the c word

[NaptownChief]

I haven't noticed a great deal of change to be honest with you. Apart from me getting banned every offseason and being a subject of constant controversy. I think that was the '02 offseason.


Come to think of it the change came after the first couple years.....about the time you registered.....hmmm, coincidence?

[keg in kc]

There was definitely more football discussion, and I would characterize it as both more interesting and more...knowledgeable, for lack of a better word.

I've said this before, however: I think part of it is burnout. A lot of us have been online for a decade now (or longer). It might just be a cyclical thing.

[Donger]

There was definitely more football discussion, and I would characterize it as both more interesting and more...knowledgeable, for lack of a better word.

I've said this before, however: I think part of it is burnout. A lot of us have been online for a decade now (or longer). It might just be a cyclical thing.

The BB equivalent of an old married couple who already know what the other is going to say on virtually every subject?

[Brando]

It went from being a very mediocre football site to one of the greatest in the history of existence. Chiefsplanet has me to thank for that. Hold your applause. The best is yet to come.

I didn't realize that was applause. I just figured it was you skinning the old meat puppet to an autographed picture of Nick Athan.

[Mecca]

I think alot of the sense of humor has been lost on some people and it's gotten to a point where we have people taking themselves extremely serious and thinking even joke posts are serious and going apeshit about them......

[DaWolf]

I dunno, quite honestly when I joined, what, 7 years ago many of us were making the jump from the Star board to here so there was a common bond and we built our own community here, and there was a closer sense because a lot of us knew a lot more about each other, going back to the Star board and even for me as far back as the Chiefs newsgroup discussions with Kent Pulliam, then the Chiefs writer.

Back then of course I was super active on the board and was posting stuff all the time, right there in the top 6 or so in posts. Then of course as with everything, the community starts growing, and you start growing with it, other things in life start taking priority, my time here becomes much more limited as I have to take care of other things since I graduated way back, and yeah, the people here have changed, a lot of familiar faces have kind of slowed down in showing up, new people come in, and it feels different.

But hey, in reality the more things change the more things stay the same. It was eerie seeing the parallels between the Huard/Green battles last year and the Grbac/Gannon war of 1997-98. While the latter was definitely more intense, it's nice to know that we as a fan base have not lost our passion one bit (although I think there is an overwhelming sense these days of being resigned to King Carl's rule whereas there was a lot more overall passion about getting rid of him back when this board was young)...

[Logical]

I would agree with this....It seemed to be an older more mature, closer nit crowd. Somewhere around 2005 it seemed to have a big influx of younger fans that don't even remember era's as recent as the Barry Word's of the Chiefs world. In the first couple years I had about 14-15k posts, in the last couple years I probably haven't posted another 500. There use to be more football discussed and seemed like a lot more passion about Chiefs football. I don't know if the demographics of the board caused that to change or the continued struggles of Carl Peterson and the lack of success has caused it...but it has changed and not for the better from my perspective.

I do think the long struggle with mediocrity has taken a real toll. The 13-3 playoff disappointment was sort of the final straw as if all hope was let out of the balloon.

[keg in kc]

The BB equivalent of an old married couple who already know what the other is going to say on virtually every subject?That, too, although I was thinking more along the lines of long-time posters not spending as much time here. Life or work interferes, and the place doesn't have the same luster.

[big nasty kcnut]

It still the same fun place as alway. Also got good new members. We need to get our new server soon so we can be the ultimate chiefs site.

[Mecca]

Well we don't get new posters......because much like any net board long time members with high post counts shit on new people pretty quickly so they leave.

[Hammock Parties]

I do think the long struggle with mediocrity has taken a real toll. The 13-3 playoff disappointment was sort of the final straw as if all hope was let out of the balloon.

Yeah but at least we didn't get a huge influx of n00bs from a Super Bowl victory. Phew! Thanks Carl!

[Logical]

That, too, although I was thinking more along the lines of long-time posters not spending as much time here. Life or work interferes, and the place doesn't have the same luster.

Sort of sad that the only thing that brings us all together is the annual ban DEnise thread.

[Logical]

Well we don't get new posters......because much like any net board long time members with high post counts shit on new people pretty quickly so they leave.

Dammit why are you still here again.;)

[Mecca]

Sort of sad that the only thing that brings us all together is the annual ban DEnise thread.

I know nothing of her seeing as I rarely venture into that part of the board........

[Mecca]

Dammit why are you still here again.;)

I'm a stubborn bastard.......

[NaptownChief]

I do think the long struggle with mediocrity has taken a real toll. The 13-3 playoff disappointment was sort of the final straw as if all hope was let out of the balloon.


that was probably the final dagger for most...I think it was for me....then when the coaching change come about and it was the usual Carl Peterson crap of hiring a buddy rather than doing a real coaching search looking for the best person for the job I threw in the towel emotionally.

[keg in kc]

I know nothing of her seeing as I rarely venture into that part of the board........I was about to mention that. Not denise, but I do think splitting the board's had a negative impact.

I'm not sure it hasn't led to folks being more confrontational, and not less.

[NewChief]

Used to be more of a community, while it did get confrontational at times, there was more discussion and less bickering. I think it started to change around 2003-2004. That may, however, just be my perception, because that coincides with my divorce, and I've spent a great deal less time here since. It may have seemed more close-knit to me simply because I was here more.

I'm still here quite a bit, and I agree with your assessment. It may just be because I haven't "bonded" with many of the newer folks, but we seem to have lost some of the shared sense of history and community. Back in the day, it seemed like half the posts were self-referential inside jokes and plays on our own history (like the lexicon). Now it seems like fewer and fewer of the people here really get it or care to indulge in that sort of stuff. That being said, I don't think it's necessarily a change for the worse. I just think the party has gotten much bigger, which makes it harder to keep the same feeling of closeness.
I don't like the Planet less, but it has changed.

[DaWolf]

that was probably the final dagger for most...I think it was for me....then when the coaching change come about and it was the usual Carl Peterson crap of hiring a buddy rather than doing a real coaching search looking for the best person for the job I threw in the towel emotionally.

I lost all my motivation when Eric Downing was let go... :)

[Mecca]

I was about to mention that. Not denise, but I do think splitting the board's had a negative impact.

I'm not sure it hasn't led to folks being more confrontational, and not less.

If you just post in DC I'll honestly have no idea who you are.

[keg in kc]

If you just post in DC I'll honestly have no idea who you are.I occasionally troll through there, but that's about it.

[NaptownChief]

I lost all my motivation when Eric Downing was let go... :)


That was a tough one for the former fanclub president also. It was tough the day I had to call you and let you know that your sideline reporting for Eric "The Road Grader" Downing Fan Club would no longer be needed.

[keg in kc]

Who's starting the Tank Fan Club?

[NewChief]

Who's starting the Tank Fan Club?

Oh sure. Why don't you just nominate him for the cover of Madden while you're at it.

[NaptownChief]

Who's starting the Tank Fan Club?


It wouldn't be fair for me to hog that privledge as I still can't tell Tank and Turk apart. That should be a requirement for the Fan Club President.

[pikesome]

It seems like the current posters are either turd-stirring youngsters or the same few old-timers. The Offseason thread's a good example, it was doing its job well till someone decided to be a jerk-off and it went down hill for a bit. It's also the offseason and that makes it seem worse.

[Mecca]

Don't put anyone in charge that has had bad luck with players before........

[Mecca]

It seems like the current posters are either turd-stirring youngsters or the same few old-timers. The Offseason thread's a good example, it was doing its job well till someone decided to be a jerk-off and it went down hill for a bit. It's also the offseason and that makes it seem worse.

Are you calling me a jerkoff........or a shit stirring youngster......

[dirk digler]

Honestly I can't believe I have been here for almost 4 years. Time flies.
Anyway when I first came here there was alot more football talk and great discussion. The last year or so football talk is not as prevalent but that maybe due to the apathy that has set in.

Also I would add that I think it is frustrating for alot us during important times during the year when we can't log on or post because the database crashes or is extremely slow. If you can't post during those times then maybe some people would like to go else where.

[Skip Towne]

that was probably the final dagger for most...I think it was for me....then when the coaching change come about and it was the usual Carl Peterson crap of hiring a buddy rather than doing a real coaching search looking for the best person for the job I threw in the towel emotionally.
Quitter! I remember back when you thought Indiana had a good basketball team.

[NaptownChief]

It seems like the current posters are either turd-stirring youngsters or the same few old-timers. The Offseason thread's a good example, it was doing its job well till someone decided to be a jerk-off and it went down hill for a bit. It's also the offseason and that makes it seem worse.


I must say one of the more vocal and more active posters seems to have a problem discussing a topic without the person immediately turning it into a name calling and insult slinging fest. That is the kind of change I have noticed. Naming calling and insults have always been tossed around but in the past it usually only came about when a topic got extremely heated....this person seems to go to the insult card at the first sign of someone disagreeing with them.

[milkman]

Are you calling me a jerkoff........or a shit stirring youngster......

You are in your own category.

Shitjerker.

:)

[NaptownChief]

Quitter! I remember back when you thought Indiana had a good basketball team.


Yeah and I remember back when Kansas use to beat Oral Roberts at home. :D

[pikesome]

Are you calling me a jerkoff........or a shit stirring youngster......

Yes? :)

[dirk digler]

I must say one of the more vocal and more active posters seems to have a problem discussing a topic without the person immediately turning it into a name calling and insult slinging fest. That is the kind of change I have noticed. Naming calling and insults have always been tossed around but in the past it usually only came about when a topic got extremely heated....this person seems to go to the insult card at the first sign of someone disagreeing with them.

Asshole........




:p

I totally agree with you Naptown.

[Phobia]

I think alot of the sense of humor has been lost on some people and it's gotten to a point where we have people taking themselves extremely serious and thinking even joke posts are serious and going apeshit about them......

I'm glad you have a pretty good sense of humor. I know I flip you crap about the wrestling, hair, and whatever other stupid crap you do but I'd hang out with you and share a beer any day. It's all fun and silliness for me - nothing personal.

[Phobia]

I don't know what - if anything - has changed. It's still a fun, crazy place to hang. I'll never leave.

[NaptownChief]

Asshole........




:p

I totally agree with you Naptown.


Thanks dickhead.

[Mecca]

LOL, I may have a differing opinion sometimes, or say something intended as a joke that goes over someone.

But I never personally attack people for what they think, I may attack your opinion but I won't personally attack you unless you do it to me first.

[NaptownChief]

I'll never leave.


Unless somebody paid you $500 and a bunch of empty promises. ROFL

[boogblaster]

Been here since 05 nothing has changed much since then..alittle shit-slinging..chest-beating..hell thats male-ego....GO CHIEFS .....GO PLANET ....

[pikesome]

As a side note: I'll be going through a thread and I see a post that I like or makes me think, when I look at the user and post count I see someone who's been here forever and posted tons but doesn't seem to be around as much. Kinda makes me wish they'd post more often.

[Mecca]

I'm glad you have a pretty good sense of humor. I know I flip you crap about the wrestling, hair, and whatever other stupid crap you do but I'd hang out with you and share a beer any day. It's all fun and silliness for me - nothing personal.

None of that stuff even remotely bothers me, it's easy target stuff I know people will screw with me about just for kicks it's no big deal. If it really bugged me I'd do something to change those things.

[Skip Towne]

Yeah and I remember back when Kansas use to beat Oral Roberts at home. :D
I thought we were talking about the Indiana Loosiers. If we play ORU again I'm betting heavily on KU. How about you?

[Phobia]

Unless somebody paid you $500 and a bunch of empty promises. ROFL

Meh, I didn't even really leave then. That was a big source of contention for the guy. He told me to leave and I told him to pound sand.

[dirk digler]

The one thing I have noticed is we don't get as many non-Chief fans as we have had in the past.

Plus most of the Donkey posters are actually good guys and TJ has went soft

[pikesome]

Meh, I didn't even really leave then. That was a big source of contention for the guy.

I don't want to butt in too much on that whole topic but that is mighty petty on his part. High school.

[NaptownChief]

I thought we were talking about the Indiana Loosiers. If we play ORU again I'm betting heavily on KU. How about you?



We will have Mike"The Basketball Genius" Davis' destruction flushed out of our system this coming season. Hoosiers will be a top 10 team.

[RealSNR]

I think I joined in right on the tail-end of Chiefsplanet's golden years. And then I was a n00b and wouldn't appreciate it as much as I would now. But I'll still stick around here for as long as I am a Chiefs fan.

[Skip Towne]

None of that stuff even remotely bothers me, it's easy target stuff I know people will screw with me about just for kicks it's no big deal. If it really bugged me I'd do something to change those things.
So do you have any plans to get a job? Or are you going to continue to emulate Gochiefs?

[Phobia]

I don't want to butt in too much on that whole topic but that is mighty petty on his part. High school.

I understand what he was thinking, but nobody tells me how to spend my free time. If I worked for a restaurant I don't think the owner would expect me to eat there every meal. If I was making $100k a year maybe I would be more likely to comply but .... uh.

[pikesome]

I understand what he was thinking, but nobody tells me how to spend my free time. If I worked for a restaurant I don't think the owner would expect me to eat there every meal. If I was making $100k a year maybe I would be more likely to comply but .... uh.

I thought we were supposed to follow you over there? I really did go look when you made the move but the vibe was too uptight, The Planet had ruined me by then.

[Mosbonian]

I would agree with this....It seemed to be an older more mature, closer nit crowd. Somewhere around 2005 it seemed to have a big influx of younger fans that don't even remember era's as recent as the Barry Word's of the Chiefs world. In the first couple years I had about 14-15k posts, in the last couple years I probably haven't posted another 500. There use to be more football discussed and seemed like a lot more passion about Chiefs football. I don't know if the demographics of the board caused that to change or the continued struggles of Carl Peterson and the lack of success has caused it...but it has changed and not for the better from my perspective.

I agree with Naptown and keginkc....

I post here less because of the lack of civility.....and quite frankly because many of the topics on the main board don't appeal to me anymore. That's OK, I don't necessarily think things should stay the same because they seem to wither and die when change isn't occasionally introduced.

But to be honest, it really has become a more confrontational place....less a place where good spirited discussions can take place. It's probably me, but there seems to be more of a "F.U., no F.U." type of debate.

I don't want to be labeled an old geezer, but I come back more for my "old friends" from the Star Board/Early Chiefs Planet group. It's fun to see a Frazod rant, and Iowanian thread, a great analysis of the upcoming draft by hawaiianboy (too bad he's gone), a defense diatribe by Gaz, or Phil's off-the-wall and deprecating sense of humor. I enjoy 4th and Long's artwork, Bwana's story's of life in Montana, Baby Lee's very well thought out rebuttals, Logical's battles with Denise, and KCTitus's "research and destroy" skills. I still enjoy Bob Dole's 3rd person sense of humor, htismaqe's even handed sense of fairplay as a Mod, (even with his recent "retirement"), Big Daddy's health tips, Joe SeaHawk, Ugly Duck and Mile High Mania's "look from the outside in" and morphius' constantly changing avatars.

I miss KC Wolfman, Clint and Red, Cannibal, Luzap, MrBlond, and a few others too numerous to mention.

To my old friends.....here's to all of us: :toast:

mmaddog
*******

[Jenson71]

I've been here since 2001 or 2002. I used to post on those famous nite crew threads, and they were a good time. I'd stay up til 2am in the summer just posting. We all liked it because it was essentially a chatroom.

We don't have the nite crew threads really so much anymore, but I don't mind. There's still the drama and controversies and community there seemed to be before.

When I started posting as Jenson71, I was about 15 years old, and naturally, everyone thought I was annoying and brushed me off for being young and talking about political or current events. I remember getting into a debate with Bwana about if Hitler was evil or insane.

dawson, or noswad, was basically memyselfi's little sister, and everyone jumped on her back. And then I think she got cancer, and may have died.

And back a few years ago, I was really interested in film, and Miles, who had another part to his name, like MilesDavis but not that, and FloridaChief would talk some good film with me.

[Logical]

I agree with Naptown and keginkc....

I post here less because of the lack of civility.....and quite frankly because many of the topics on the main board don't appeal to me anymore. That's OK, I don't necessarily think things should stay the same because they seem to wither and die when change isn't occasionally introduced.

But to be honest, it really has become a more confrontational place....less a place where good spirited discussions can take place. It's probably me, but there seems to be more of a "F.U., no F.U." type of debate.

I don't want to be labeled an old geezer, but I come back more for my "old friends" from the Star Board/Early Chiefs Planet group. It's fun to see a Frazod rant, and Iowanian thread, a great analysis of the upcoming draft by hawaiianboy (too bad he's gone), a defense diatribe by Gaz, or Phil's off-the-wall and deprecating sense of humor. I enjoy 4th and Long's artwork, Bwana's story's of life in Montana, Baby Lee's very well thought out rebuttals, Logical's battles with Denise, and KCTitus's "research and destroy" skills. I still enjoy Bob Dole's 3rd person sense of humor, htismaqe's even handed sense of fairplay as a Mod, (even with his recent "retirement"), Big Daddy's health tips, Joe SeaHawk, Ugly Duck and Mile High Mania's "look from the outside in" and morphius' constantly changing avatars.

I miss KC Wolfman, Clint and Red, Cannibal, Luzap, MrBlond, and a few others too numerous to mention.

To my old friends.....here's to all of us: :toast:

mmaddog
*******:toast: So well said, you covered almost everything.

[morphius]

Well, it got to the point they were left to make me an admin, is there any more that needs to be said?

[Phobia]

dawson, or noswad, was basically memyselfi's little sister, and everyone jumped on her back. And then I think she got cancer, and may have died.

She's not dead. She lives in Texarkana, fwiw. Her brother is also a regular here.

[el borracho]

There used to be more people who knew football and there used to be a core group of peeps who each wasted at least one hundred hours a month on here.

[Mosbonian]

Well, it got to the point they were left to make me an admin, is there any more that needs to be said?

That was probably one of their better decisions...

mmaddog
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[Jenson71]

She's not dead. She lives in Texarkana, fwiw. Her brother is also a regular here.

Thanks for that update. I remember there was a lot of speculation after she left and never came back. I must have missed the update if there was one. That's good to hear she survived.

[Sam Hall]

I'm just now starting to figure out who I like and who I don't like. People show their true colors when a controverisal topic arises.

[VonneMarie]

That was probably one of their better decisions...

mmaddog
*******
Suck up...

[Mecca]

I'm just now starting to figure out who I like and who I don't like. People show their true colors when a controverisal topic arises.

I'm obviously on the negative side.

[Mosbonian]

Suck up...

:) :) :)

That's me...

mmaddog
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[Phobia]

I'm just now starting to figure out who I like and who I don't like. People show their true colors when a controverisal topic arises.

SHUT UP MORON!!!!

[keg in kc]

I don't know what - if anything - has changed. It's still a fun, crazy place to hang. I'll never leave.Am I the only one that envisioned you posting that with your eye twitching?

[Phobia]

Am I the only one that envisioned you posting that with your eye twitching?
Well, my brown eye is twitching but I've been fighting off a steamer for the better part of an hour.

[Sam Hall]

I'm obviously on the negative side.

Not really. I don't have a problem with USC just because they're better than Nebraska.

[Mosbonian]

Well, my brown eye is twitching but I've been fighting off a steamer for the better part of an hour.

ROFL ROFL ROFL

mmaddog
*******

[keg in kc]

I haven't eaten since 2. Very weird for me. I'm considering a run to Wendy's.

Random thought of the month.

[VonneMarie]

I haven't eaten since 2. Very weird for me. I'm considering a run to Wendy's.

Random thought of the month.
I'll take a spicy chicken sandwich, small fries and a medium chocolate frosty. Keep the change, thanks.

[keg in kc]

I'll take a spicy chicken sandwich, small fries and a medium chocolate frosty. Keep the change, thanks.Coming right up.

Although if I'm not there by midnight, I wouldn't wait up.

[Sam Hall]

I'll take a spicy chicken sandwich, small fries and a medium chocolate frosty. Keep the change, thanks.

54th Street has an amazing spicy chicken sandwich.

[Skip Towne]

We will have Mike"The Basketball Genius" Davis' destruction flushed out of our system this coming season. Hoosiers will be a top 10 team.
That place needs flushed to get the Bobby Knight stink out of it. :p:

[VonneMarie]

Coming right up.

Although if I'm not there by midnight, I wouldn't wait up.
You need to get on it then. :)

[VonneMarie]

54th Street has an amazing spicy chicken sandwich.
Not better then Wendy's. In fact, I hate 54 Street Bar & Grill... but they do have this great dish called Fry Me to the Moon. :drool:

[Hammock Parties]

I'm going to have some Singapore Noodles!

[Mr. Flopnuts]

Chicken Phad Thai baybee.

[007]

I'm just now starting to figure out who I like and who I don't like. People show their true colors when a controverisal topic arises.
Controversy? On the planet? Would never happen.

[Mr. Flopnuts]

Controversy? On the planet? Would never happen.


Good to see you buddy. Hope everything is going alright. At least as alright as possible.

[ChiefJustice]

Things changed after Rainman started his ruthless
bomber campaign.

Seriously,I agree that the DC forum might have given
some people a reason for not even bothering about football threads altogether.

I personally have been away for two years and i have
noticed that alot of regulars i used to see aren't posting anymore.

[007]

Good to see you buddy. Hope everything is going alright. At least as alright as possible.
Thanks. It was a rough week but we are getting through. My 10 yo is having the roughest time right now. Hated having to leave him for work tonight.

[Hammock Parties]

What would be fun is if we flushed Chiefsplanet to the core....got rid of everything, all the old posts, everyone's account...let everyone register anew with new usernames and see if anyone can figure out who is who.

[keg in kc]

Well, f*ck me. I wish Wendy's delivered. Oh well. Guess I better drag myself out of here.

[Mr. Flopnuts]

Well, f*ck me. I wish Wendy's delivered. Oh well. Guess I better drag myself out of here.


Back to the lecture at hand. Wendy's.

[Logical]

What would be fun is if we flushed Chiefsplanet to the core....got rid of everything, all the old posts, everyone's account...let everyone register anew with new usernames and see if anyone can figure out who is who.Fun:shake:

[ChiefJustice]

What would be fun is if we flushed Chiefsplanet to the core....got rid of everything, all the old posts, everyone's account...let everyone register anew with new usernames and see if anyone can figure out who is who.


We'll always know you buddy!

And,there is no way i would evar let the classic thread section be deleted!
:harumph:

[Logical]

Controversy? On the planet? Would never happen.Hope everyone is holding up.

[VonneMarie]

Well, f*ck me. I wish Wendy's delivered. Oh well. Guess I better drag myself out of here.
Go to Taco Bell

[keg in kc]

Go to Taco BellAs I was waiting for a translation from the mexican guy manning the window at Wendy's, I actually thought to myself "I should've just gone to Taco Bell".

[PastorMikH]

When I first showed up, this place was a lot more in your face and nOOBs got "initiated" into the fold by the regulars. Those that couldn't take the abuse didn't stay around. The crowd also seemed more "mature" in age of posters than it does now. The Nite Crew could be depended upon for lots of laughs and lots of posts that say nothing. The football content also seemed to be more in depth.


Now the Planet seems younger, easier to get offended, less inteligent on football subjects, and generally posters aren't as close as they used to be. The Mods also don't do anywhere near the pranks they used to.

[PastorMikH]

I wish Wendy's delivered. Oh well. Guess I better drag myself out of here.


Back in the late 80s the Wendys I worked at in Columbia experimented with delivery. It didn't work anywhere nearly as well as Pizza does.

[TinyEvel]

I've only been on the board for 1.5 years, so I cannot say it has changed much. I can't reminisce to the old days of the closely knit community of the Star board or the chiefs radio discussion forum, or the HAMM radio discussion group nor the tickertape morse code telegraph community of pre AFL days.
BUT...this place has given me a fun, informative, 24-hour place to learn and talk about Chiefs, something I can do to practically nobody out here in Los Angeles.
So, for that, I'm thankful.
Plus, all the other Yahoos like me on here keep it interesting. You guys are my computer friends. My watercooler at my desk.

My wife cannot understand why I am on here all the time. I say, "This is my entertainment and news. It's like "Best Week Ever" or "The Soup"...people report current news, and other people say sh!t about it, some funny, some not so funny.

[Rain Man]

What would be fun is if we flushed Chiefsplanet to the core....got rid of everything, all the old posts, everyone's account...let everyone register anew with new usernames and see if anyone can figure out who is who.

Can I keep my avatar?

Back when I started posting, posters tended to be subsistence farmers and fishermen. A few made ropes from vines. Now most of them assemble shoes for Nike and grow coca leaves in the jungle.

[Rausch]

Can I keep my avatar?

Back when I started posting, posters tended to be subsistence farmers and fishermen. A few made ropes from vines. Now most of them assemble shoes for Nike and grow coca leaves in the jungle.

I would have said it differently but that pretty much ties it in a pretty bow....

[el borracho]

One other difference: a few years ago we had a number of teens on here which made for good fun. Slayer, GoChiefs and royr17 all made good punching bags.

[luv]

It's really changed, for me, within the past few months. I've gotten thicker skin, know more about football, and I've met people in person. It's awesome!

[ChiefJustice]

Can I keep my avatar?

Back when I started posting, posters tended to be subsistence farmers and fishermen. A few made ropes from vines. Now most of them assemble shoes for Nike and grow coca leaves in the jungle.

I blame El Nino,Martha Stewart,and someone's recent trip.

[Rausch]

One other difference: a few years ago we had a number of teens on here which made for good fun. Slayer, GoChiefs and royr17 all made good punching bags.

There are plenty of targets.

"Swing away Merrill. Merrill... swing away..."

[Knob]

Chiefsplanet really took a turn for the worse when the "REPOST" reply became an everyday thing.

[Logical]

Chiefsplanet really took a turn for the worse when the "REPOST" reply became an everyday thing.LOL that would be before you became a poster here.ROFL

[keg in kc]

LOL that would be before you became a poster here.ROFLI think that was before I became a poster here.

[jspchief]

I think the biggest thing that's changed is the quality of the humor.

There used to be a lot of smart, witty posters. A lot of those people have moved on, and been replaced with people who think they are funny but aren't.

It's like SNL.

[keg in kc]

I think the biggest thing that's changed is the quality of the humor.

There used to be a lot of smart, witty posters. A lot of those people have moved on, and been replaced with people who think they are funny but aren't.

It's like SNL.There do appear to be a few people who think they're sarcastically funny, when in fact they're just sarcastic.

[Knob]

There do appear to be a few people who think they're sarcastically funny, when in fact they're just sarcastic.

Truth is how do you really know what to think about people on here? Unless you know them by the Barb-Q's or get togethers. If you aint going to those, you really are guessing on pesonalities.

[SPchief]

I think the biggest thing that's changed is the quality of the humor.

There used to be a lot of smart, witty posters. A lot of those people have moved on, and been replaced with people who think they are funny but aren't.

It's like SNL.


That Fax guy is unfunny

[luv]

Truth is how do you really know what to think about people on here? Unless you know them by the Barb-Q's or get togethers. If you aint going to those, you really are guessing on pesonalities.
I agree. I was amazed at some of the differences in personality once I met people. It makes it a little easier to tell when they're joking, which is about 99.5% of the time.

[Phobia]

There do appear to be a few people who think they're sarcastically funny, when in fact they're just sarcastic.

That's just hurtful. Thanks a lot.

[SPchief]

That's just hurtful. Thanks a lot.


Pussy

[Phobia]

Oh yeah, FloridaChief disappeared. Were you asking about improvements or just changes in general?

[|Zach|]

I'm just a listening man.

Doin what I can.

[SPchief]

This place has gone to hell since Phobia came back.

[007]

This place has gone to hell since Phobia came back.
Yeah but that is nothing compared to how you brought the place down. :)

[keg in kc]

Truth is how do you really know what to think about people on here? Unless you know them by the Barb-Q's or get togethers. If you aint going to those, you really are guessing on pesonalities.Oh, I don't know about that. I didn't meet most of the people I have met in person for a good 2 years after I met them here. I found that, once we'd met in person, I already knew them pretty well. There is (or was) a core group of people here that, whatever else you could say about them, seemed fairly genuine. That didn't mean you'd like all of them, or even any of them, but you knew who they were, as people.

[ChiefFan31]

I feel for some of you veterans. Looks like you had a really cool thing going years back. I think what has happened is just change. Things change, its just the way of things. Folks get older, get more into family, or start a family...etc. etc.

I'm just glad there isn't a bunch of threads whining about the good old days. I am not talking about this one at all, there was a spat of them a few months back. I saw it on another board before...folks started bitching about the good ol days, and that was the beginning of the end of that board. At least being big. Well lame drama had a part too.

The veterans are out there lurking, that is for sure. That stuff drives them off, IMO.


For me, I had found ChiefsHuddle through using warpath. Someone linked a thread to this place, and wow. Wild and funny as hell. Very active forum too. Seems there is more drama and not as much fun as two years ago, but I still find it entertaining and there is a whole lot of real knowledgeable posters about the Chiefs. There is a number of people on here who's football opinion I would trust over any talking head.

[mcan]

I joined the Star board a few months before this one was created and joined in here as soon as I found out about it.


When the board first started, it was pretty wild. The Star board was a censorship machine and everybody on here was anxious and willing to lay into people and say whatever they wanted. All things were discussed from football to politics to music to women. There were no subforums and each topic got a TON of participation. So, in turn, you would get to know everybody really quickly. You'ld spend HOURS on here at a time because there were always at least three or four threads that you were glued to. If you had to leave the computer, you'ld come back and check it every hour or so to see how it was going...

Basically, everybody participated in all discussions because the board topics weren't segregated. It annoyed people that threads like "The Chiefs are Racist" would get started by trolls and then stay on the main page for weeks. But, the board policed itself, and those discussions were fun for almost everybody involved, so the complainers were in the minority.


THEN: The heated Bush/Kerry election.


That was it. There were times where 90% or more of the main page was covered with the same old garbage over and over. At first, they threatened to ban the 6 or so people that were doing it. Warnings... Then, there were NO football threads to speak of. Just Bush/Kerry threads, and threads complaining about how there weren't any football threads. So, while everybody was good and pissed off, there was a vote: Create subforums...

The new forums definately solved that problem. But created a whole slew of new problems, not to mention a sea change in the overall attitude of the board. Suddenly it wasn't a place to go and talk about anything with a bunch of people. It became: talk about football with a bunch of people, or talk about something else with a small group of extremists who aren't any fun to talk to and sit around flaming each other.

Now, the board seems to only still be good for the occaisional laugh and as a repository for any and all Chiefs news and rumors. Which makes it still a pretty cool site, but certainly not a community like it once was.

[stumppy]

THEN: The heated Bush/Kerry election.


That was it. There were times where 90% or more of the main page was covered with the same old garbage over and over. At first, they threatened to ban the 6 or so people that were doing it. Warnings... Then, there were NO football threads to speak of. Just Bush/Kerry threads, and threads complaining about how there weren't any football threads. So, while everybody was good and pissed off, there was a vote: Create subforums...

The new forums definately solved that problem. But created a whole slew of new problems, not to mention a sea change in the overall attitude of the board. Suddenly it wasn't a place to go and talk about anything with a bunch of people. It became: talk about football with a bunch of people, or talk about something else with a small group of extremists who aren't any fun to talk to and sit around flaming each other.

Now, the board seems to only still be good for the occaisional laugh and as a repository for any and all Chiefs news and rumors. Which makes it still a pretty cool site, but certainly not a community like it once was.


I agree, this place changed significantly after D.C. was created. Anything you wanted to talk about was right here on the front page. When you signed on it was like going to your neighborhood bar. Any number of people talking about everything under the sun.
Unfortunately, when it came to politics too many people couldn't just agree to disagree. The end result being segregation. It hasn't been the same since.

[Mile High Mania]

I think the biggest thing that's changed is the quality of the humor.

There used to be a lot of smart, witty posters. A lot of those people have moved on, and been replaced with people who think they are funny but aren't.

It's like SNL.

That's a pretty good way to put it. I've been around here way too long... since the KC Star daze. There's a lot of posters that no longer post and that sucks. There's a lot of posters that still don't understand the Internet.

However, overall the place has evolved into a solid community. I agree that the addition of the DC Forums changed things, but I don't think it's negative. There would be days when this place was an absolute ass whip with all the non-sports drama. Hell, had the forums not been split... I likely would have bailed a while ago... you guys missed your chance. :p

The big positive is that people have learned to not be so friggin sensitive to posts from others. It's still bad at times, but for the most part I have noticed that people are more easy going.

[Saulbadguy]

Not nearly as entertaining since TomCash left.

[tiptap]

What do people expect. The tone of discussions is expectantly male. Lot's of blustering and over the top rhetoric. And the nexus of early contributors were more homogeneous. To continue that approach requires to have an edge without cutting to deep. That is a high wire act and you are bound to get casualities when new and different actors show up over time. I would like more football entries but it is hard to discuss nuance if the course is full out blow. Just settle in, try and find the pace and build until that rhythm develops and holds. It still shows up at times.

[HemiEd]

I joined at a very bad time, for a homer. The 2004 season had just flopped to an end. This place was very confusing to me, I thought it would be a bunch of "rah rah, go Chiefs!"
My dumbassery was pointed out in short order, wow. I have actually learned some things about football, and look at the team totally different. I would have never said anything negative about anything to do with the team, prior to joining this place.

Old dogs can learn new tricks! Oh, and in everyday life I have kind of turned into a smart ass.

[Bob Dole]

It went to shit when Christian Okoye broke all our hearts by failing to deliver the promised signed photos.

[BigRedChief]

Some of you guys sound pathetic. The old days were so good. I miss them. Boo-Hoo.:deevee: I miss Mr. Blond also but thats their decision to move on. We make our own decisions to hang or not hang here. Things change. You can't stop it.
IMHO you guys are letting the few reall witty posters that have left get you down. This place is still the least moderated board on the net. Free will and free speech run rampant here. Thats a good thing.

[Bugeater]

I find it odd that so many people say it's more uncivilized now, it seems to me that it has mellowed out a lot in the past year. I'm also grateful that the DC forum exists, there's no way in hell I'd want all those pissing matches in the Lounge.

[ChiTown]

When I first showed up, this place was a lot more in your face and nOOBs got "initiated" into the fold by the regulars. Those that couldn't take the abuse didn't stay around. The crowd also seemed more "mature" in age of posters than it does now. The Nite Crew could be depended upon for lots of laughs and lots of posts that say nothing. The football content also seemed to be more in depth.


Now the Planet seems younger, easier to get offended, less intelligent on football subjects, and generally posters aren't as close as they used to be. The Mods also don't do anywhere near the pranks they used to.

I couldn't have said it any better. Nice job.

I might also add, I'm not nearly as tolerant to the general stupidity that runs rampant on here at times. I've slowed way the hell down on posting - primary out of lack of interest on topics. But also, I just don't have the same bond with certain posters that I had a number of years ago. Shit happens, but I still enjoy being here - more as a lurker vs. a poster these days.

[Donger]

Thanks for the input, everyone. It is appreciated.

[stumppy]

One other difference: a few years ago we had a number of teens on here which made for good fun. Slayer, GoChiefs and royr17 all made good punching bags.


It's been too long since we had a thread anywhere near as funny as when Slayer was learning how to drive. Or when roys' girlfriend signed on.

[Frazod]

There are several members who for whatever reason quit posting (or drastically limited their time here) that I miss. The vacuum caused by their absence has been filled, but generally not a good way.

It used to be that the core group of this place were people who were friends not only here but in real life. That has certainly changed. Again, not a good shift. :shake:

[ChiTown]

It's been too long since we had a thread anywhere near as funny as when Slayer was learning how to drive. Or when roys' girlfriend signed on.

We need another American Hero to reappear...............that was a helluva good time ROFL

[htismaqe]

For people that don't understand the catalyst behind the creation of DC in 2004, here's something to chew on:

Chiefsplanet came into being in August of 2000.

[Donger]

For people that don't understand the catalyst behind the creation of DC in 2004, here's something to chew on:

Chiefsplanet came into being in August of 2000.

Holy sh*t. Al Gore created ChiefsPlanet?

[Bwana]

Yes, yes it has...............

[Frazod]

So do you have any plans to get a job? Or are you going to continue to emulate Gochiefs?And, of course, what thread would be complete without our resident Nobel laureate cable guy taking yet another hypocritical swipe at another member's purported life failings. :rolleyes:

If you're looking for a mascot for the Planet's decline, I give you this sniping anonymous hateful loser f#ck.

AND I'M STILL WAITING FOR THAT PICTURE, SKIP.

[stevieray]

Dense showed up after her pledge to never come here was thwarted by the demise of pigskin park.

that pretty much sums it up.

[Iowanian]

The personality has changed, that is for sure.

In the era of free agency Chiefsplanet lost the football insight of Hawaiianboy for the drooling skunkweed mumblings of overhead and autumnwind....Traded the factual statistics and regular historical archive smack of the Titus Brothers for Mecca and Hootie.......a plethora of humorous posters who were actually clever no longer or very rarely post here any longer, and were replaced by an influx of the Icy Hot stuntaz.

There have been very solid additions in new posters that have kept this place alive, and thats a good thing.

The days of The H-back conversation, before it was talked about on NFLN, Skinsbras of lore and common villains are gone.

Maybe its just apathy from those that have been at this for so many years....and you can only talk about things so many times, or life and maturity take over.

I think alot of it is just specific personalities that are gone.

As for the lack of civility....I accept my portion of responsibility and really don't enjoy that aspect. Its not fun for anyone. That said, the planet used to be a RUTHLESS place.....Brock is a teddy bear compared to 5 years ago....Cannibal, otter and CiW among others were brutal.

Mcan always whines about the DC forum, but rarely participates here......the people who post there with 80% of their posts+ are doing the entire board a favor by not being in the main forum.

You can't talk about politics or religion in a bar either without trouble.

It is losing its burst. I'm not sure if its the board that has changed....or my perspective with 7 more years of age.

[Dinny Bossa Nova]

IMO, it hasn't been the same since KCGannonstalker got sued out of business and then skinbra died.

Dinny

[ROYC75]

The posters were funnier and more caustic, sarcastic. This place used to be a blast, but it has become very blase almost boring a great deal of the time.

The other thing is we all knew each other better and it was a closer knit group.

Bingo ..... so many of us came over from the Star BB and we knew each other pretty well.

Seriously, as we get older,more things come in to our lives, we usually post less, new members join and you wake up one day and say, "Who are you ? " to a new member .

Like everything in life, it changes.....( except the Chiefs )

[Phobia]

There are several members who for whatever reason quit posting (or drastically limited their time here) that I miss. The vacuum caused by their absence has been filled, but generally not a good way.

It used to be that the core group of this place were people who were friends not only here but in real life. That has certainly changed. Again, not a good shift. :shake:
It's just different. Different people, different friends. I had never met roughly 75% of the Planet people who showed up to my BBQ last month. I enjoyed that but it's certainly different.

I don't think it's different, bad. It's just not the same. Nothing ever is. I don't have a problem with that. The NFL isn't the same as it was 7 years ago either and I whine about it a lot but I keep watching every game.

[pikesome]

The Chiefs are also responsible for the change around here. DV brought us one of the most dynamic offenses ever, Trent was putting up elite numbers, Holmes broke the TD record, our OL was HOF worthy (remember that Falcons game). But nothing lasting was accomplished. Like the Marty years. Or the Gun years. Herm isn't the kind of HC that breeds excitement, look at the anti-Herm campaign. We might be on the cusp of a new era of KC greatness but, based on the past, we're probably just going to get 4 years of almost good enough. That's rough on even the most die hard fan. There's only so many ways we can have the "Herm sucks. No he doesn't." discussion.

[chagrin]

If you guys don't mind me throwing in my opininon, you can throw it out, heh.

Regardless of how many people like me or not, in my opinion the new n00bs have become more annoying than I ever was. There are about 5-10 mults posting here daily, the gochiefs 10 threads a day, then the blatant unethical journalistic threads he posts to garner attention himself; I had though for most of my time here he was contributing alot but now it seems ot be about himself, just to display his "news items", so I don't like that - I detest grandstanding.

The hypocrisy of one mod in particular, and the people who basically follow his line of thinking; on one hand they bash away on traditions that many here hold dear, posting blatantly offensive comments then hide behind freedom of speech then when someone fights back they cry racist, misongynist, etc.

I have seen more censorship specifically because of him, against a specific group of people, in favor of another.

The garbage threads posted by folks like percysnow, and crazy coffey when he first joined up, autumn wind here, it's not entertaining at all some days. Yesterday I think was the worst display of threads at any given time since that one day htismaqe allowed political postings on the loung a few months back for a day (I know he was trying to prove a point).

Hopefully the buffalo bills girl will come back and get railed on, I miss red-n-feisty and Clint In Wichita.

Og The Caveman hasn't been around in a while, heh - I miss that guy.

People keep mentioning the fact that it's not a tight communtiy anymore, all I know is that everyone seemed to know each other and that some newer people here don't show up at parties and that might make it not such a tight knit group too. My own opinion is that if you have 3 hours to play flag football, and you live in the area, you should attend a bash, a tailgate or something. Too many folks here simply don't participate in the bonding that can go on at a party, etc.

Anyway, some thoughts there.

[MichaelH]

I've noticed much more sarcasm and intolerance in the last few years. Lately, this place is like listening to a bunch of lawyers arguing about which ambulance they're going to chase.

[Phobia]

FWIW, Coughy is 10x better than he was. In fact, I even dropped him from iggy.

[chagrin]

FWIW, Coughy is 10x better than he was. In fact, I even dropped him from iggy.


Oh yeah, I didn't mean he was still a goof, I should have clarified that. Sorry Coffey :)

[plbrdude]

guess i don't pay much attention. never really thought of the planet as a tight group of friends. rather a large group of people who are friendly with each other and liked talkin football and other assorted stuff. as with in person relationships, people come and go. some you'll remember in a positive way, others you want to forget. some you'll bond with and remain in touch with for a lifetime.
i've alwaysed enjoyed checkin out whats going on here. don't post a whole lot, and never been given a lot of grief. i reckon i've changed more over the past couple years than the planet has.

[htismaqe]

The Planet has gotten infinitely more enjoyable in the past couple of weeks since I decided to stop being a mod.

[Phobia]

The Planet has gotten infinitely more enjoyable in the past couple of weeks since I decided to stop being a mod.

How did I miss that?

[jidar]

I joined and it immediately got more hetero and manly

[ROYC75]

How did I miss that?

He got thrown under the bus..........Being a Bus Bump hurts.

[Pushead2]

I like this place.

[Wrasse]

I miss Gaz's movie reviews...

...I also wish I'd change my avatar but it requires an amount of effort that I am unwilling to muster at this time.

[Frazod]

IMO, 2003 was the heyday of place. Things that have happened since that have contributed to the decline:

The slow but steady decline of the Chiefs themselves.

The absence/diminished presence of certain key interesting members, like Brian and Russ.

The end of 37 Forever.

The DC forum. Not the forum itself, which is necessary, but the fact that certain people MADE ITS CREATION necessary.

The Athan fiasco, including the rift between Kyle and Phil and the rift between pro and anti-Phil factions.

OVERCROWDING. Like a sprawling suburb that was once a nice quiet place, the BB has vastly outgrown its infrastructure. There are simply way too many people here now, and quantity does not equal quality. (How many "server busy" messages did you get during the draft?)

The metamorphasis of one certain poster from an amusing, cantankerous old fart into the egomaniacal self-proclaimed lord of the n00bs (this may be more of a personal thing for me, but I can't be the only one).

It just isn't fun like it used to be. And that's sad.

[Logical]

:( I miss Gaz, KCWolfman, Mr Blond, JOhn, Endo and a bunch of others. There are many new quality posters don't get me wrong, but somehow they don't engender the passion of discussions we had before. I think the lowering of the postings of Rausch, Frazod, and some other has also diminished this place. Nothing like seeing the 10:00pm thread up there every night though.

[keg in kc]

Behold! The power of cheese.

I thought that needed to be said.

[vailpass]

Then: Gaz, Endelt, Hawaiian Boy
Now: GoCheifs, UltraPeanut

[chagrin]

guess i don't pay much attention. never really thought of the planet as a tight group of friends. rather a large group of people who are friendly with each other and liked talkin football and other assorted stuff. as with in person relationships, people come and go. some you'll remember in a positive way, others you want to forget. some you'll bond with and remain in touch with for a lifetime.
i've alwaysed enjoyed checkin out whats going on here. don't post a whole lot, and never been given a lot of grief. i reckon i've changed more over the past couple years than the planet has.

I always believed in the community aspect of it, after all it was reading something about the 37 forever foundation that motivated me here, since I am from Louisiana and knew his story, went to the same college. I enjoyed meeting the people and hopefully can meet many more, I have always enjoyed people, so I guess that's what I got out of this.

[keg in kc]

UltraPeanut was around Then, too, vail. We just called, ah, her by another name.

[Hammock Parties]

Did I mention chagrin is a grade A drama queen?

[Lzen]

I'll never leave.

Damn it!!
:banghead:

[Sam Hall]

Some of you should stop crying and do something about the things you don't like.

[vailpass]

UltraPeanut was around Then, too, vail. We just called, ah, her by another name.

Yeah, I know Psy has been around for a good long time. I guess my point was that now those people are some of the most active posters here as opposed to the active posters of the past.
Whether that is good or bad is up to individual taste but there is no denying the place has changed.

GoChiefs and a few other newer posters remind me of that loudmouthed poker player in "Tombstone' played by Billy Bob Thornton whose obnoxious behavior drove away all of the regular clientele. That is until Wyatt Earp walked in, bitch slapped him, and threw him out by his ear. It was only a matter of time before the real-world losers found this place and glommed on, making their virtual lives here.

[mcan]

Mcan always whines about the DC forum, but rarely participates here......the people who post there with 80% of their posts+ are doing the entire board a favor by not being in the main forum.



You might be surprised, but I completely agree. I don't like the subforums; that's true. But your post seems to imply that I'm one of those guys that only talks politics. I don't think you meant it to, but I'm certainly not one of those "DC Forum" people. I think I've posted on there once or twice since it's been created. I don't want to talk to the people over there any more than you do! I would, however, love to talk about politics with sane, rational, and fun loving people... But those people don't ever venture away from the main board.

Maybe I'm wrong about the reasons why this place isn't as cool as it used to be, but I'll give some specific examples of what I'm talking about.

In 2000 I started a thread about "How to beat the Rams" a week before the game. Nobody gave us a chance at that game, and it was my theory that we needed to "fight fire with fire..." I said, "If the Rams want to play video game football and run up the score, we're not going to beat them with three yards and clowd of dust football. We need to try and beat them at their game." The thread garnered a lot of attention and debate through the week. There were also a bunch of NFT threads on the board, but when a good football thread came around, it got a lot of good attention.

Two years ago I started a thread where I attempted to go back and breakdown the film of every play of a Chiefs/Jets game. It was a massive undertaking that I had a lot of fun doing: at first. But it was meant to stir up some actual football conversation. Instead, it just got a bunch of posts from people saying "I wonder if you'll actually finish this." A few people responded saying that they were reading, but after getting through every play of the first quarter, the only people replying to the thread were REDICULING it... "I wonder what's going to happen next?" "I'll bet THIS happens :rolleyes: " etc... It kinda pissed me off. All people do is bitch about the lack of good football threads, so much so that we segregate the board: but it became REALLY clear to me that most people here don't WANT to talk about football. They want to talk about getting drunk, and rip on people. So, I don't post very much anymore.

[Phobia]

The Athan fiasco, including the rift between Kyle and Phil and the rift between pro and anti-Phil factions.


I guess I'm not aware of any Kyle/Phil rift. We're good. He calls when he's in KC and I think we've even hung out since the split. Yeah, I don't like the way he makes promises he can't keep and he knows that - I'm not shy about saying what I don't like about people especially when we're business partners. Clearly, we both had different ideas about the future of the Planet and it turns out he was a lot smarter than I am in hindsight.

I was also not aware of any significant pro/anti-Phil factions. It might be interesting hearing more about that. Or maybe not.

I definitely agree in some regards about the overcrowding comment from your post. Though, I think it's an underperformance issue more than an overcrowding. There are thriving communities on the web with tens of thousands of members which dwarf this site. There's no reason we can't have a large site that provides a lot of entertainment value.

[JazzzLovr]

I have to agree with Logical (did I really say that?? ;) ), keg and Frazod on the points that they have already made. I think you may see a difference between "veteran" posters who describe the Planet a few years ago as a tightly-knit community and those who saw it as a larger community for football analysis. I think for the most part, the football analysis perspective comes from day posters and the tightly-knit community is the perspective of the old "Nite Crew." As Logical posted earlier, daytime was more serious, and nighttime was when a serious thread would get hijacked and become the place for the Nite Crew to talk about everything and nothing and just basically give each other hell. :D

There were fewer members online at that hour, so everyone who posted regularly after midnight got to know each other fairly well. I think during that time, I probably met about 90% of those people in person and considered at least 50% of them to be close friends of mine.

I think the best time I ever had at a CP event was when a group of us met at Gator's on the Friday night of 37 Forever weekend (I think that was 2003). Until that night, I think I had only met two of the people there in person before, but I had talked to so many of them online for so long, that I never felt like I was among strangers. And most of those people were part of the Nite Crew. Off the top of my head, I can remember Frazod, Rausch, Boozer, ENDelt, KCMizzou, raiderhader, Zach, KCWolfman, stevieray, and LVNHack that all showed up at some point that night. (To this day, I can't hear the song "Fat-Bottomed Girls" without thinking of ENDelt and stevieray singing it onstage together :D )

This past year, in the weeks leading up to the fundraiser, I remember talking with Frazod about all the people who were going to be missing. When you hear former Nite Crew folks reminiscing or wishing for the "good ol' days" as someone else called it, it's not so much complaining about what the Planet has become--although its collective personality has definitely changed--as it is missing some posters that we considered friends. To use the bar analogy, we're not complaining that the menu has changed or that the place has been redecorated, we're just trying to figure out why Norm only drops by every once in a while and Cliff hasn't been heard from in months.

That's my take on it, anyway.

Tammie

[greg63]

Night crew has lost it's burst. :p

[Lzen]

I joined the Star board a few months before this one was created and joined in here as soon as I found out about it.


When the board first started, it was pretty wild. The Star board was a censorship machine and everybody on here was anxious and willing to lay into people and say whatever they wanted. All things were discussed from football to politics to music to women. There were no subforums and each topic got a TON of participation. So, in turn, you would get to know everybody really quickly. You'ld spend HOURS on here at a time because there were always at least three or four threads that you were glued to. If you had to leave the computer, you'ld come back and check it every hour or so to see how it was going...

Basically, everybody participated in all discussions because the board topics weren't segregated. It annoyed people that threads like "The Chiefs are Racist" would get started by trolls and then stay on the main page for weeks. But, the board policed itself, and those discussions were fun for almost everybody involved, so the complainers were in the minority.


THEN: The heated Bush/Kerry election.


That was it. There were times where 90% or more of the main page was covered with the same old garbage over and over. At first, they threatened to ban the 6 or so people that were doing it. Warnings... Then, there were NO football threads to speak of. Just Bush/Kerry threads, and threads complaining about how there weren't any football threads. So, while everybody was good and pissed off, there was a vote: Create subforums...

The new forums definately solved that problem. But created a whole slew of new problems, not to mention a sea change in the overall attitude of the board. Suddenly it wasn't a place to go and talk about anything with a bunch of people. It became: talk about football with a bunch of people, or talk about something else with a small group of extremists who aren't any fun to talk to and sit around flaming each other.

Now, the board seems to only still be good for the occaisional laugh and as a repository for any and all Chiefs news and rumors. Which makes it still a pretty cool site, but certainly not a community like it once was.

This is an interesting take. And I think I would agree with most of it. I would not be opposed to getting rid of the sub forums. All except the political one. I hardly ever go in there any more. I feel dirty when I come out of there. :shake:

[keg in kc]

Damn libbies blaming everything on God. I mean Bush.

[Frazod]

I guess I'm not aware of any Kyle/Phil rift. We're good. He calls when he's in KC and I think we've even hung out since the split. Yeah, I don't like the way he makes promises he can't keep and he knows that - I'm not shy about saying what I don't like about people especially when we're business partners. Clearly, we both had different ideas about the future of the Planet and it turns out he was a lot smarter than I am in hindsight.

I was also not aware of any significant pro/anti-Phil factions. It might be interesting hearing more about that. Or maybe not.

I'm glad that you and Kyle get along. The rift I referred to was when you left. I'm glad it wasn't personal.

As for the "factions," when you left for WPI, there were those who thought it sucked that you were leaving, and those who... well, didn't. :D FWIW, I thought this place ran much better when you primarily ran it. (I hope saying that doesn't cause your head to swell another hat size.)

[Phobia]

There is no other hat size, Tim.

There was a time it was personal for me with Kyle. I was frustrated with him but he handled it well and I learned something from him.

Heh, I know I didn't keep everybody happy here but I thought I did as well as anybody possibly could - maybe. However, I'm much happier just being a regular member than I ever was running the place. It would take a lot of incentive for me to take such a role in the future.

[JazzzLovr]

Heh, I know I didn't keep everybody happy here but I thought I did as well as anybody possibly could - maybe. However, I'm much happier just being a regular member than I ever was running the place. It would take a lot of incentive for me to take such a role in the future.

I'm sure if we took up a collection we could come up with about $500 or so.

[Frazod]

I cannot ever remember having more fun in a weekend than I did during the banquet weekend of 2003. From the people at both gatherings to the game itself, the weekend was pretty much perfect. I cannot remember anything happening that wasn't great fun or extremely amusing (except for cleaning Brad's puke off my car, but the mileage I've got out of the story has more than made up for it over the years :D ).

That's the kind of camaraderie that I miss. I don't think we'll be getting it back any time soon, either. :(

[Frazod]

There is no other hat size, Tim.

Yeah, same here. Of course, in my case, the rest of me somewhat masks it. :D

[Lzen]

Damn libbies blaming everything on God. I mean Bush.

It's not just that. It's just so polarized.

[Phobia]

I'm sure if we took up a collection we could come up with about $500 or so.

Heh. It's not just financial for me. I'm also a bit of a control freak, which is why I probably experienced some moderate success steering this ship.

I can't see myself ever managing the Planet again but if I were to take on a similar project it would be for something in which I had plenty of pull and long-term potential to be something bigger than just a football site.

[JazzzLovr]

Heh. It's not just financial for me.

Yeah, I know. But you had to know somebody was going to say it. ;)

I can't see myself ever managing the Planet again...

Sorry to hear that.

[Knob]

Some of you guys are too wrapped up in to this sh*t. Sounds like some are in deep depression missing the old tight-knit communities. Get over it and go fishing or something geesh. :rolleyes:

[Phobia]

Some of you guys are too wrapped up in to this sh*t. Sounds like some are in deep depression missing the old tight-knit communities. Get over it and go fishing or something geesh. :rolleyes:
Naturally, it's more important to some than others. The only guy who took it too seriously no longer comes around. It sounds like you take your fishing too seriously. ;)

[Chief Faithful]

Sort of sad that the only thing that brings us all together is the annual ban DEnise thread.

Meme used to have such a crush on Gannon that she would talk football. Now that she turned her love of Gannon into a negative Bush derangement we have to keep her locked up in DC.

I think the board being a more close knit group was part of its charm. Also, the orginal members where all former KCStar posters looking for a place to share their love of the Chiefs so there were a lot more serious football discussions.

I still enjoy the BB, but I am very selective in what threads I post and I'm more reserved in my opinion. Otherwise this is still my favorite BB.

[NaptownChief]

Get over it and go fishing or something geesh. :rolleyes:


Given the vast majority of the old timers post a ton less I think it is fair to say they have moved on to fishing or golf or whatever.

Will you please grant us permission to discuss the topic however oh mighty one....:rolleyes:

[htismaqe]

I was also not aware of any significant pro/anti-Phil factions. It might be interesting hearing more about that. Or maybe not.

I'm a faction, in and of myself.

And I'm STRONGLY anti-Phil.

[htismaqe]

However, I'm much happier just being a regular member than I ever was running the place.

Me too.

[Phobia]

I'm a faction, in and of myself.

And I'm STRONGLY anti-Phil.

I always knew it.

[crazycoffey]

Nothing like seeing the 10:00pm thread up there every night though.


I just found my new sig line......



:)

[FishingRod]

Well apparently Gochiefs is still saving up his nickels so someday he can rent some nookie.


It guess it hasn't changed at all.

[chiefs4me]

I must say one of the more vocal and more active posters seems to have a problem discussing a topic without the person immediately turning it into a name calling and insult slinging fest. That is the kind of change I have noticed. Naming calling and insults have always been tossed around but in the past it usually only came about when a topic got extremely heated....this person seems to go to the insult card at the first sign of someone disagreeing with them.







there is more then one...

[Donger]

there is more then one...

I should have been more specific...

[Donger]

I should have been more specific...

So, what say you, chiefs4me? What do you think has changed?

[grandllama]

Somewhere around late 2003 to early 2004. It interestingly enough is lost in the great database purge. But it was the the time of the great nightcrew threads. Gaz ruled the day. Day posting was for civility for the most part, night posting was for unbridled insanity.

Yep, that sounds Logical (those lost threads hold all the gold)

[Mosbonian]

Some of you guys sound pathetic. The old days were so good. I miss them. Boo-Hoo.:deevee: I miss Mr. Blond also but thats their decision to move on. We make our own decisions to hang or not hang here. Things change. You can't stop it.
IMHO you guys are letting the few reall witty posters that have left get you down. This place is still the least moderated board on the net. Free will and free speech run rampant here. Thats a good thing.

Feel left out? Sorry if all this makes you puke....

I'm sorry you weren't a part of the original crew....and I don't mean those who joined in the first couple of years. I mean those who were not only here but at the Star Board.

I didn't say this board was doomed...just not the same, and for me I find it less enjoyable. Cynical posts like yours are an example of what I dislike about this place.

mmaddog
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[RJ]

Having been around here since the beginning, lurking more than posting, I'd say this board has changed and mostly for the better. I like the fact that there is more diversity now. The Planet was very midwestern and very conservative in the early days, NTTAWWT, and most of those folks are still around. But as new members have come along and the population has grown a greater variety of opinions, both football and otherwise, have come with them. Naturally, that sometimes leads to problems. It's no surprise that the more types of people you gather together the more likely there will be disagreements.

As to football threads, I don't there are any less today, just less as a % of posts. And I would attribute that more to the team than the members. Let's face it, the Chiefs haven't given us much to get excited about over the past few years, neither on nor off the field.

It's human nature for people to long for things past, to miss "the good old days" so to speak, but this is still a great board, just one that's evolved.

[Easy 6]

I think i first started lurking here in 04 & there is no question in my mind that it was a more rough & tumble place, some of the pile-ons i've witnessed probably inflicted atleast some type of physical pain, despite being in cyberspace.

I actually joined at the tail end of the good n00b hazing, its not nearly as intense as it was & thats not always for the better...

I can understand the old timers & more to the point locals, feelings of things not being as tight knit as before, but the simple fact is that not all CHIEF fans live in metro KC or nearby in Mo. Try to have a heart for your longer distance breathren...

There is still plenty of thoughtful football analysis here IMO, as well as any & everything related to pop-culture & world events...this place can be HIGHLY informative.

The Planet still has its burst.

At some point i hope to meet many of you folks, but until that day, you will be the Falcon & i will remain...The Falconer...

[Iowanian]

I'm sorry I killed Chiefplanet nap...it wasn't my goal

I'll try harder to make your future visits more pleasant.

I must say one of the more vocal and more active posters seems to have a problem discussing a topic without the person immediately turning it into a name calling and insult slinging fest. That is the kind of change I have noticed. Naming calling and insults have always been tossed around but in the past it usually only came about when a topic got extremely heated....this person seems to go to the insult card at the first sign of someone disagreeing with them.

[Smed1065]

It's just different. Different people, different friends. I had never met roughly 75% of the Planet people who showed up to my BBQ last month. I enjoyed that but it's certainly different.

I don't think it's different, bad. It's just not the same. Nothing ever is. I don't have a problem with that. The NFL isn't the same as it was 7 years ago either and I whine about it a lot but I keep watching every game.
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Thanks for the warning at least!

[Smed1065]

I'm sure if we took up a collection we could come up with about $500 or so.

Checks in the mail.

We will pay you at the end of the season, for accounting reasons!

[Mosbonian]

I can understand the old timers & more to the point locals, feelings of things not being as tight knit as before, but the simple fact is that not all CHIEF fans live in metro KC or nearby in Mo. Try to have a heart for your longer distance breathren......

Interestingly, I actually drifted away from the Planet when I moved closer to KC. I was actually on the board more when I lived in NC/SC than when I moved to Columbia, MO.

mmaddog
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[Frazod]

Interestingly, I actually drifted away from the Planet when I moved closer to KC. I was actually on the board more when I lived in NC/SC than when I moved to Columbia, MO.

mmaddog
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I think the farther away from Kansas City you are the more you need the Planet. It's not like I get any Chiefs news/discussion up here in Bears hell.

[Frazod]

I'm sorry I killed Chiefplanet nap...it wasn't my goal

I'll try harder to make your future visits more pleasant.

He could be talking about me. Although my insult slinging is fairly concentrated in one direction.

[Iowanian]

Truthfully, I have always respected nap...and I'd be pretty disappointed if it were my posts he viewed that way.

I'd like to think the smack is just something I do....not "who I am" here and that its not used just because. If it is...I need to re-evaluate what I'm doing here.

[stevieray]

well, maybe it's not the planet has changed, but the posters...

Maybe some have lost their burst.
Maybe some don't care about "community".
Maybe some don't care about meeting others, therefore remaining veiled in their identity.

I know that the nzoner thread didn't garner much of a response(even from the oldtimers), whereas it might have in the past.

"changes aren't permanent, but change is"

[KCTitus]

Im pretty sure it's changed since The Man started to block my ways -- even ANALOG -- from getting to the planet.

It's not because of what the team has or hasnt done or more to the point what Carl has or hasnt done, but I will say that playoff performance proved to me we're reliving another Schottenheimer era. Regardless who is the coach or who is the GM, I'll still be a fan, it's just that my company has blocked every way to get to the board. I cant even use my own wireless device to access the site while at work.

Without my witty reparte to lighten your-alls day, Im sure it's been less exciting.

It's affected my keeping up with the team, and I miss some of you guys.


No, not in that way.

[htismaqe]

He could be talking about me. Although my insult slinging is fairly concentrated in one direction.

He's talking about me.

[|Zach|]

There are about 5-10 mults posting here daily,
5-10? No way. We have worked quite hard on killing multiples.

[|Zach|]

He's talking about me.
ROFL

[Skip Towne]

And, of course, what thread would be complete without our resident Nobel laureate cable guy taking yet another hypocritical swipe at another member's purported life failings. :rolleyes:

If you're looking for a mascot for the Planet's decline, I give you this sniping anonymous hateful loser f#ck.

AND I'M STILL WAITING FOR THAT PICTURE, SKIP.
Note to the rest of the board: This fat, ignorant piece of shit continues to attack me unprovoked. You are now seeing my response. Hey fatass, what pic do you want? I want a pic of your wife so I can determine what kind of woman would marry a fat, bald, uneducated person such as yourself. Something tells me she didn't have a lot of other offers. C'mon fat boy, pony up. Hahahahahahahaha,

[Skip Towne]

IMO, 2003 was the heyday of place. Things that have happened since that have contributed to the decline:

The slow but steady decline of the Chiefs themselves.

The absence/diminished presence of certain key interesting members, like Brian and Russ.

The end of 37 Forever.

The DC forum. Not the forum itself, which is necessary, but the fact that certain people MADE ITS CREATION necessary.

The Athan fiasco, including the rift between Kyle and Phil and the rift between pro and anti-Phil factions.

OVERCROWDING. Like a sprawling suburb that was once a nice quiet place, the BB has vastly outgrown its infrastructure. There are simply way too many people here now, and quantity does not equal quality. (How many "server busy" messages did you get during the draft?)

The metamorphasis of one certain poster from an amusing, cantankerous old fart into the egomaniacal self-proclaimed lord of the n00bs (this may be more of a personal thing for me, but I can't be the only one).

It just isn't fun like it used to be. And that's sad.
Why do you try to use words you cannot spell? I hope you aren't trying to type briefs for anyone. You're one stupid sonofabitch. Thanks for providing me the opportunity to point this out.

[Donger]

Why do you try to use words you cannot spell? I hope you aren't trying to type briefs for anyone. You're one stupid sonofabitch. Thanks for providing me the oppotunity to point this out.

Opportunity.

What's your take, Skippy? How has CP changed?

[Brando]

Note to the rest of the board: This fat, ignorant piece of shit continues to attack me unprovoked. You are now seeing my response. Hey fatass, what pic do you want? I want a pic of your wife so I can determine what kind of woman would marry a fat, bald, uneducated person such as yourself. Something tells me she didn't have a lot of other offers. C'mon fat boy, pony up. Hahahahahahahaha,

As I recall there was a picture of his wife at Joe's the first year he held the fundraiser up there.

[Skip Towne]

As I recall there was a picture of his wife at Joe's the first year he held the fundraiser up there.
Post it, I can't wait.

[|Zach|]

He already posted a picture of him and his wife.

[Donger]

Post it, I can't wait.

So much anger. That really isn't healthy. Don't you think you'd be happier without ChiefsPlanet?

[ChiTown]

Post it, I can't wait.

I know you can't help yourself at times, but try to stop being such an overwhelming prick. Seriously.

[stevieray]

Opportunity.



It never fails.

[Donger]

It never fails.

ROFL

He neg repped me too.

ROFL

[Donger]

Skip, if you've something to say to me, do it on the board. Don't hide behind PMs.

[Frazod]

Note to the rest of the board: This fat, ignorant piece of shit contines to attack me unprovoked. You are now seeing my response. Hey fatass, what pic do you want? I want a pic of your wife so I can determine what kind of woman would marry a fat, bald, uneducated person such as yourself. Something tells me she didn't have a lot of other offers. C'mon fat boy, pony up. Hahahahahahahaha,

I already posted it and you goddamn well know it, you lying piece of dogshit. I know you saw it because you ran away like the f#cking PUSSYthat you are. I'll post it again so you can go run and hide again.

As for unprovoked attacks, DOPEY, expect one everytime you display the brazen gaul to dare to criticize ANYONE, EVER about anything they've done in their life. I'll tell you one thing about every you rip on here - they all have FUTURES, which is something you don't have. Hopefully they won't piss all over theirs with poor life choices like you did. You are King Dipshit of the Losers, Mr. Ass-Crack-In-Front-Of-My-Entertainment-Center, and have no right, ZERO, to ever rip on anybody. The average homeless bum on Lower Wacker didn't come from money and piss away a free ride through college. How many other people with psychology degrees install cable at age 62? Did your daddy the doctor cry when he realized his son was a drugged out f#cking failure and disgrace? God, what an embarassment you must have been.

So here's the picture of me and my wife, AGAIN, for the benefit of anyone who buys into your bullshit. And, once again, DOPEY, where's the picture of YOUR wife, or YOUR girlfriend? Or at last the last hooker or goat you nailed? No picture, or can you not hook up a scanner to Web TV, you jerkoff. Apparently we can add COMPUTER to the list of things you can't afford, along with the DirecTV you install for other people. Yeah, you're a real million dollar success story, aren't you?

[Brando]

Not in an attempt to change the current mood but that is a very nice picture of the two of you. Very pleasant. Now carry on!!

[Skip Towne]

Skip, if you've something to say to me, do it on the board. Don't hide behind PMs.
OK, I think you are a really weak male. You like to pick on women. I think you are a douche who knows nothing about football. And you are from Denver. Why are you on this board? How's that?

[Frazod]

Opportunity.

What's your take, Skippy? How has CP changed?

ROFL

The King of KU must have taken one toke too many and forgot to spellcheck his post.

[Frazod]

OK, I think you are a really weak male. You like to pick on women. I think you are a douche who knows nothing about football. And you are from Denver. Why are you on this board? How's that?

Well, he picks on you, which is sort of like picking on a woman.

[Donger]

OK, I think you are a really weak male. You like to pick on women. I think you are a douche who knows nothing about football. And you are from Denver. Why are you on this board? How's that?

Well, I suppose it depends on how one defines "weak male." Somehow, I think you and I differ on that definition.

I like to pick on women? How did you reach that conclusion?

I live in the Denver area, yes, since the middle 1990s. I was raised in KC. What's the point?

I like this board for multiple reasons. It has taught me a lot about football, for one.

You're a little dog, with a little bite, Skip. Nothing more.

[luv]

OK, I think you are a really weak male. You like to pick on women. I think you are a douche who knows nothing about football. And you are from Denver. Why are you on this board? How's that?
Donger picks on women?

[noa]

Let's turn this into a BBQ thread...kind of funny how a 'remember the old times' thread turned into this...

[ChiTown]

Let's turn this into a BBQ thread...kind of funny how a 'remember the old times' thread turned into this...

Actually, this is just like old times...........

[Frazod]

Donger picks on women?

c4me. Of course, I've seen pictures. She looks like she could hold her own. :D

[Brando]

Let's turn this into a BBQ thread...kind of funny how a 'remember the old times' thread turned into this...

McGonigles...oustadning...get over there for the $11 ribs this weekend.

[Skip Towne]

Well, he picks on you, which is sort of like picking on a woman.
Yeah, this coming from a total failure in life. You get out of life about what you puti n it. You put in nothing and reaped nothing. I have a degree and I own my own company. You are a drone who does what he is told.

[luv]

c4me. Of course, I've seen pictures. She looks like she could hold her own. :D
I almost added "I thought he just picked on c4m." at the end of that, but I decided not to. Would have sounded mean, and wasn't my intention.

[Mr. Flopnuts]

Frazod vs. Skip Towne round 5. This is awesome. I'm so grabbing the popcorn.