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Arrowhead Pride
05-22-2007, 11:04 AM
Just saw on another board that apparently Trent Green is going to have a press conference today at 1:30 pm Central time. The board got it from 810 Sports apparently.

OnTheWarpath15
05-22-2007, 11:08 AM
Well, players don't typically have PC's to announce they've been traded......

Has he decided to retire?

Stick around and compete?

the Talking Can
05-22-2007, 11:10 AM
it will be a Q&A with Whitlock

"so, Trent, how big an ass is Carl?
"so, Trent, how unfair is it that Carl isn't giving you away for nothing?"
"so, Trent, zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz............"

Frazod
05-22-2007, 11:11 AM
I hope he retires.

the Talking Can
05-22-2007, 11:15 AM
I hope his wife does porn.

Sure-Oz
05-22-2007, 11:15 AM
weird

ct
05-22-2007, 11:17 AM
my guess is another opportunity to say the same thing

NewChief
05-22-2007, 11:18 AM
my guess is another opportunity to say the same thing

Probably so. Might come out with a few other gripes and beefs with the organization, but I'd imagine it will be more of the same as his last interview. Just enough to get everyone pissed at him again.

the Talking Can
05-22-2007, 11:19 AM
maybe he'll re-enact the scene when DV announced Robinson's firing...

Arrowhead Pride
05-22-2007, 11:19 AM
my guess is another opportunity to say the same thing
Or to voice his "increasing frustration".

the Talking Can
05-22-2007, 11:21 AM
Probably so. Might come out with a few other gripes and beefs with the organization, but I'd imagine it will be more of the same as his last interview. Just enough to get everyone pissed at him again.

you'd think he was smart enough to realize that he has no leverage...he can only tarnish his rep at this point, fair or not...

most fans are looking at this as a business transaction right now, we want value for a player...

siberian khatru
05-22-2007, 11:27 AM
"This place just hasn't been any fun since Dick left ..."

siberian khatru
05-22-2007, 11:28 AM
"I'm proud of what half this team accomplished ..."

siberian khatru
05-22-2007, 11:30 AM
"One of my fondest memories was that 45-41 loss to San Diego when ..."

nychief
05-22-2007, 11:38 AM
I hope his wife does porn.
ROFL ROFL ROFL

Hog's Gone Fishin
05-22-2007, 11:40 AM
I'll go ahead and let you guys in on the scoop. After many hours of negotiations with Trent he has decided to retire so that he may pursue his long term dream as a boar semen collector. He said in a statement this morning that it's what he's really wanted to do his whole life and that he has a natural talent for his new career. "Why would I want to be throwing a football around and running for my life when there's so many boars that need to be collected". said Trent. Carl knew that Trent had been secretly collecting boar semen during his off season but never confronted him with it. But now the cats out of the bag and it's time to move on. Trent said "I've been waited to blow a wad up a sows vaginer my whole life and now I can do it and feel good about it"

Coogs
05-22-2007, 11:41 AM
Maybe it is to announce this...

Eric Hicks signs with Jets
By RANDY COVITZ The Kansas City Star
Former Chiefs defensive end Eric Hicks signed as a free agent with the New York Jets today.

Hicks, who will be 31 in June, spent nine seasons with the Chiefs before he was released on May 1. Hicks was a seven-year starter for the Chiefs and ranks fifth on their all-time sack list with 44.5, and a career-best 14.0 in 2000.

Hicks originally signed with the Chiefs in 1998 as a rookie free agent out of Maryland. He appeared in 128 games for the Chiefs, making 104 starts.

Chiefnj
05-22-2007, 11:42 AM
What? No more joint press releases that everything is amicable?? Say it ain't so.

Eleazar
05-22-2007, 11:46 AM
I'd secretly love for him to retire and just stick it to Carl. Come on, all we were ever going to get was a 7th round pick, a scrub/NFLE/practice squad player that wouldn't pan out anyway.

Seeing Trent get the last laugh and Carl get shown up both by him and the Dolphins would be awesome.

StcChief
05-22-2007, 11:47 AM
I'll go ahead and let you guys in on the scoop. After many hours of negotiations with Trent he has decided to retire so that he may pursue his long term dream as a boar semen collector. He said in a statement this morning that it's what he's really wanted to do his whole life and that he has a natural talent for his new career. "Why would I want to be throwing a football around and running for my life when there's so many boars that need to be collected". said Trent. Carl knew that Trent had been secretly collecting boar semen during his off season but never confronted him with it. But now the cats out of the bag and it's time to move on. Trent said "I've been waited to blow a wad up a sows vaginer my whole life and now I can do it and feel good about it"
ROFL
so his strong arm can be used for something in retirement
:thumb: good job inking him Hog Farmer

Frankie
05-22-2007, 11:48 AM
I'd secretly love for him to retire and just stick it to Carl. Come on, all we were ever going to get was a 7th round pick, a scrub/NFLE/practice squad player that wouldn't pan out anyway.
yeah, like Page.

88TG88
05-22-2007, 11:49 AM
I'd secretly love for him to retire and just stick it to Carl. Come on, all we were ever going to get was a 7th round pick, a scrub/NFLE/practice squad player that wouldn't pan out anyway.

Seeing Trent get the last laugh and Carl get shown up both by him and the Dolphins would be awesome.
http://www.kcchiefs.com/media/players/jarrad_page.jpg

ChiefsfaninPA
05-22-2007, 11:50 AM
yeah, like Page.

Stop giving the enemy ammo. They are going to use this exact pick to show Carl how valuable their offer is. You know the Phins GM is a troll.

Coogs
05-22-2007, 11:50 AM
Just curious on the retirement thing. How was Seau able to retire from the Dolphins, and then a week or so later join the Patriots? Did the Dolphins still hold his rights at that point and have to release him? Is this something Green could do as well?

Frankie
05-22-2007, 11:54 AM
Stop giving the enemy ammo. They are going to use this exact pick to show Carl how valuable their offer is. You know the Phins GM is a troll.
I do not think a 7th for Green is fair. A 4 is the most fair price. Or a combination of picks and/or conditions with at least a 5th in there. iImerely was pointing out that 7th is not an automatic failure.

Redrum_69
05-22-2007, 11:54 AM
My how things can change in a year.

Last year everyone was confident in Greens ability...then he get a cheap shot on him and suffers a bad concussion.

Now everyone who was on Greens side is against him.

Bunch of band-wagoneers

Eleazar
05-22-2007, 11:56 AM
yeah, like Page.

Got any other examples?

Eleazar
05-22-2007, 11:58 AM
I do not think a 7th for Green is fair. A 4 is the most fair price. Or a combination of picks and/or conditions with at least a 5th in there. iImerely was pointing out that 7th is not an automatic failure.

The Patriots got Randy Moss for a 4th.

You think we can get a 4th for a 36-year-old QB who didn't play well last year coming off a serious injury? You're nuts.

Frankie
05-22-2007, 12:03 PM
Got any other examples?
New Orleans WR. I forgot his name.

Frankie
05-22-2007, 12:03 PM
Got any other examples?
Trent Green.

Frankie
05-22-2007, 12:04 PM
The Patriots got Randy Moss for a 4th.

You think we can get a 4th for a 36-year-old QB who didn't play well last year coming off a serious injury? You're nuts.
Moss is a head case and a risk. That devalues him big time.

InChiefsHell
05-22-2007, 12:09 PM
Trent Green.

Boom.

noa
05-22-2007, 12:12 PM
New Orleans WR. I forgot his name.


Marques Colston. I think TJ Houshmandzadeh was also a 7th rounder.

DaKCMan AP
05-22-2007, 12:17 PM
I think TJ Houshmandzadeh was also a 7th rounder.

correct.

Micjones
05-22-2007, 12:18 PM
The Chiefs have made good on several late round picks in recent years.

bigbucks24
05-22-2007, 12:19 PM
Just curious on the retirement thing. How was Seau able to retire from the Dolphins, and then a week or so later join the Patriots? Did the Dolphins still hold his rights at that point and have to release him? Is this something Green could do as well?
The Dolphns released Seau on March 6, 2006 making him a free agent. He talked about retirement and then signed with the Pats.

BIG_DADDY
05-22-2007, 12:22 PM
I hope his wife does porn.

:thumb:

bigbucks24
05-22-2007, 12:24 PM
I'd secretly love for him to retire and just stick it to Carl. Come on, all we were ever going to get was a 7th round pick, a scrub/NFLE/practice squad player that wouldn't pan out anyway.

Seeing Trent get the last laugh and Carl get shown up both by him and the Dolphins would be awesome.
Wasn't the latest offer a 6th round pick? And recent articles have mentioned that they are willing to budge off that pick? Not saying a 6th rounder is gold, but I don't think it's trash either. Would you be disappointed if the Chief's cut their 6th round pick this year without even looking at him? And stated that "6th round picks never work out so we decided not to waste our time"? Hell, I see people being excited about the potential of your 7th rounders and UDFA. A 6th isn't a 4th, but it's better than nothing.

Coogs
05-22-2007, 12:25 PM
The Dolphns released Seau on March 6, 2006 making him a free agent. He talked about retirement and then signed with the Pats.

OK, that makes more sense. I must have missed the released part of that deal.

OnTheWarpath15
05-22-2007, 12:28 PM
PC is already on....what has happened so far?

Wile_E_Coyote
05-22-2007, 12:28 PM
The Dolphins' plane dropped off Trent's pads at KCI yesterday

Hammock Parties
05-22-2007, 12:30 PM
Green is just blabbing about how much he loves Miami.

No real news to report.

OnTheWarpath15
05-22-2007, 12:31 PM
Green is just blabbing about how much he loves Miami.

No real news to report.

So he called a PC to rehash old news?

Hammock Parties
05-22-2007, 12:33 PM
Pretty much.

Wile_E_Coyote
05-22-2007, 12:33 PM
Miami has some kick ass Creme Brulee

Hammock Parties
05-22-2007, 12:34 PM
"They never asked my opinion on that."

Shut up, bitch. You got tossed out of the head coach's inner circle and now you want to whine about?

phisherman
05-22-2007, 12:35 PM
he's whining because he says it's "not fair" here, but in miami, where he knows the offense better than any of the young QB's, it's going to be a "fair competition"....what bull, it sounds like he's just cherry picking where he wants to go the most...

sounding very whiney....boo hoo, poor trent....i really don't like the fact that he's badmouthing the chiefs because they won't deal him to the only team where he can start

OnTheWarpath15
05-22-2007, 12:35 PM
The "journalists" in KC suck.

They've had weeks since his rant with KK to prepare questions, and in the time I've been listening no one has asked a different or difficult question.

Same old, same old.

Hammock Parties
05-22-2007, 12:36 PM
"When Terry Shea was fired, and I wasn't even aware that it was coming, that was kind of a blindside..."

WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!

kcxiv
05-22-2007, 12:36 PM
I bet this PC doesnt go up on the kcchiefs.com website. lol

OnTheWarpath15
05-22-2007, 12:37 PM
Why does TG feel it necessary to be to including in the hiring/firing of coaches? Businesses don't ask employees for the OK to hire and fire personnel.

What a bunch of crap.

All he's doing is tarnishing his rep at this point.

Wile_E_Coyote
05-22-2007, 12:39 PM
It is sad to see someone you admired, is just another spoiled brat

Iowanian
05-22-2007, 12:40 PM
Green just needs Rhonda Moss to come out of the crowd, give him a big ole bear hug and get that cry out of the way.

Green doesn't appear to like CP any longer.

He "just wants to go to Miami".

He sounds alot of kids who "just want a cookie" before dinner.

Reerun_KC
05-22-2007, 12:40 PM
This is so funny.....

Trent has/was the best QB to grace a Chiefs uniform since Montana or Lenny.. And to watch you guys defend him one year then totally whine like little bitches the next is so commical.... Good thing DT still wasnt playing or leaving, you guys would be bashing him as well...

Carl has f*cked over the fans and the city of KC more than any player and you guys give him the benefit of the doubt more than not...

Trent is smart, He doesnt want to play for a loser coach, he wants to finish his career on a high note and he sees that KC is not the answer anymore... More power to Trent...

But his preformance in KC is by far better than any other QB in the history of the Chiefs... (except Lenny).

Reerun_KC
05-22-2007, 12:41 PM
Green just needs Rhonda Moss to come out of the crowd, give him a big ole bear hug and get that cry out of the way.

Green doesn't appear to like CP any longer.

He "just wants to go to Miami".

He sounds alot of kids who "just want a cookie" before dinner.


Can you blame him? Do you like Carl?

I sure the hell dont....

OnTheWarpath15
05-22-2007, 12:41 PM
Now he's dodging the fair compensation question.

Blamed the Chiefs for showing their cards too quickly.

Hey Trent:

They did that out of respect for you, as wrong as it is now.......

tomahawk kid
05-22-2007, 12:42 PM
Can you blame him? Do you like Carl?

I sure the hell dont....

So - are you a Chiefs fan?

Seriously, I'm just asking.

Mr. Laz
05-22-2007, 12:42 PM
nothing worth anything



petro even sound whiney at the ending of the thing

the Talking Can
05-22-2007, 12:42 PM
"This place just hasn't been any fun since Dick left ..."

rep for posts 12 and 13

noa
05-22-2007, 12:42 PM
This is so funny.....

Trent has/was the best QB to grace a Chiefs uniform since Montana or Lenny.. And to watch you guys defend him one year then totally whine like little bitches the next is so commical.... Good thing DT still wasnt playing or leaving, you guys would be bashing him as well...

Carl has f*cked over the fans and the city of KC more than any player and you guys give him the benefit of the doubt more than not...

Trent is smart, He doesnt want to play for a loser coach, he wants to finish his career on a high note and he sees that KC is not the answer anymore... More power to Trent...

But his preformance in KC is by far better than any other QB in the history of the Chiefs... (except Lenny).

You suck

Iowanian
05-22-2007, 12:42 PM
I sure think he's being a whining bitch, considering his worst option is to not play, and recieve $7 million dollars this year.

rerun, is carl your father? You sound like AJ Soprano's emo phase regarding anything CP.


I find it funny to hear Millionaire players whining about what management does and doesn't tell them. In the real world, much much worse happens to employees every day.

I've found out on the front page of the paper my office was moving, or I had a new task and the like before. I've had owners of a company call the day of a bid letting and withdrawl my contract winning proposal an hour before it was finalized, without mentioning it, and found out from teh clients "wtf" call.

I am not a CP fan.....but business is business, and I feel Green hampered this trade by excluding any team but Miami.

kcxiv
05-22-2007, 12:42 PM
DT is and never will be close to the player DT was in his day. You can fall out of favor with someone really fast when all you do is whine about wanting to go to a team that doesnt really want you.

Reerun_KC
05-22-2007, 12:43 PM
So - are you a Chiefs fan?

Seriously, I'm just asking.

I enjoy the chiefs and root for them as much and as hard as you do...

But I still dont like CARL...

InChiefsHell
05-22-2007, 12:43 PM
THat was IT? Nothing to report...why the hell bother with a press conference?

Reerun_KC
05-22-2007, 12:44 PM
I sure think he's being a whining bitch, considering his worst option is to not play, and recieve $7 million dollars this year.

rerun, is carl your father? You sound like AJ Soprano's emo phase regarding anything CP.


ROFL... Carl my father?

18 years is enough of Carl.

Reerun_KC
05-22-2007, 12:45 PM
You suck
Thanks....

InChiefsHell
05-22-2007, 12:45 PM
DT is and never will be close to the player DT was in his day. You can fall out of favor with someone really fast when all you do is whine about wanting to go to a team that doesnt really want you.

Who is and never will be what?

Mr. Laz
05-22-2007, 12:45 PM
THat was IT? Nothing to report...why the hell bother with a press conference?

i don't think Green actually called a PC ... he just talked after practice.


probably because all the media wanted him to

GoHuge
05-22-2007, 12:45 PM
Well I glad we got that all cleared up? WTF

Soren did have that whoop-tee-doo sound to his voice. He was the first one to say "I'm not going to beat this Trent Green thing anymore"......Then Keitzman opens with it and makes an entire show out of it.

Coogs
05-22-2007, 12:46 PM
THat was IT? Nothing to report...why the hell bother with a press conference?

No doubt! That was pitiful. Only thing worth while was each QB got 3 snaps (Croyle, Huard, Printers, Green) and that will continue the next 2 days.

I say screw that. If Croyle is the man, give him 6 or so, and 2 apiece for the rest of them.

siberian khatru
05-22-2007, 12:47 PM
"When Terry Shea was fired, and I wasn't even aware that it was coming, that was kind of a blindside..."

WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!

"Trent, I've, uh, ... I've got some bad news for you. Sit down."
"Is it my wife? My kids?"
"No, no, no. We're, uh ... look, I'll just come out and say it: We're letting Terry Shea go."
"What?"
"Yeah, we're just going in a different direction."
"I ... I ..."
"Um, you OK? You look pale. Do you need a glass of water?"
"No, I ... I'll be all right. I think. I just ... I just can't believe this."
"I know you and Terry were close."
"He was like my stepbrother ... or maybe a second cousin once removed. You know, the kind who lived in the same town, who you would see all the time. Or at least at summer family picnics. I mean, he was my COACH, y'know? We had a bond. We sipped pinot noir together at Dick and Carol's vacation chateau. We mocked the defense together. He did the best Eric Hicks impression, it was so funny ... and now he's so gone."
"We understand. This must be tough on you."
"Yeah, it is. Well, thanks for telling me. I appreciate that."
"No problem. We felt we owed it to you."

Reerun_KC
05-22-2007, 12:47 PM
No doubt! That was pitiful. Only thing worth while was each QB got 3 snaps (Croyle, Huard, Printers, Green) and that will continue the next 2 days.

I say screw that. If Croyle is the man, give him 6 or so, and 2 apiece for the rest of them.


That would be a wise move... Now is the time to get younger and see if we have anything in Croyle....

Huard and Green arent going to get it done.

InChiefsHell
05-22-2007, 12:47 PM
I think Croyle needs a PC now...just to add fuel to the fire...heheheheh...

OnTheWarpath15
05-22-2007, 12:47 PM
This is so funny.....

Trent has/was the best QB to grace a Chiefs uniform since Montana or Lenny.. And to watch you guys defend him one year then totally whine like little bitches the next is so commical.... Good thing DT still wasnt playing or leaving, you guys would be bashing him as well...

Carl has f*cked over the fans and the city of KC more than any player and you guys give him the benefit of the doubt more than not...

Trent is smart, He doesnt want to play for a loser coach, he wants to finish his career on a high note and he sees that KC is not the answer anymore... More power to Trent...

But his preformance in KC is by far better than any other QB in the history of the Chiefs... (except Lenny).

Big difference between defending his ability on the field and defending his attitude towards this whole situation. I still think he has the talent to be the starter on this team. He's trashed any opportunity he had to win the starting job by whining about this apparent "weighted" competition. The rookies and backups ALWAYS get more reps than the starters.

What if Brodie gets hurt in camp? Trent would have won the starting role by default if he was playing well. Brodie could have played like shit in camp, and Trent could have started. Trent could have just flat beat Brodie out. But he'd rather whine about having to compete.

And if he really wanted to finish his career on a high note, he'd stay here. Miami is going nowhere fast.....

the Talking Can
05-22-2007, 12:49 PM
Trent should threaten to speak Spanglish until he is traded.






Why? Because it would be funny. Whining isn't funny.

Reerun_KC
05-22-2007, 12:49 PM
Big difference between defending his ability on the field and defending his attitude towards this whole situation. I still think he has the talent to be the starter on this team. He's trashed any opportunity he had to win the starting job by whining about this apparent "weighted" competition. The rookies and backups ALWAYS get more reps than the starters.

What if Brodie gets hurt in camp? Trent would have won the starting role by default if he was playing well. Brodie could have played like shit in camp, and Trent could have started. Trent could have just flat beat Brodie out. But he'd rather whine about having to compete.

And if he really wanted to finish his career on a high note, he'd stay here. Miami is going nowhere fast.....


Good Point.

crazycoffey
05-22-2007, 12:50 PM
"Trent, I've, uh, ... I've got some bad news for you. Sit down."......"He was like my stepbrother ... or maybe a second cousin once removed. You know, the kind who lived in the same town, who you would see all the time. Or at least at summer family picnics. I mean, he was my COACH, y'know? We had a bond. We sipped pinot noir together at Dick and Carol's vacation chateau. We mocked the defense together. He did the best Eric Hicks impression, it was so funny ....



funny stuff.

InChiefsHell
05-22-2007, 12:51 PM
I dunno though, we saw a flash of Trent in 06 when we drafted Croyle. He was doing the draft coverage for ESPN or whatever, and actually said something along the lines of "I don't know why we drafted a quarterback..."

...I think he felt the beginning of the end before even last season started...

Baby Lee
05-22-2007, 12:51 PM
This is so funny.....

Trent has/was the best QB to grace a Chiefs uniform since Montana or Lenny.. And to watch you guys defend him one year then totally whine like little bitches the next is so commical.... Good thing DT still wasnt playing or leaving, you guys would be bashing him as well...

Carl has f*cked over the fans and the city of KC more than any player and you guys give him the benefit of the doubt more than not...

Trent is smart, He doesnt want to play for a loser coach, he wants to finish his career on a high note and he sees that KC is not the answer anymore... More power to Trent...

But his preformance in KC is by far better than any other QB in the history of the Chiefs... (except Lenny).
I KNOW!!
It's like OJ, a hero for years, then you go and kill one ex-wife. . .

ROFL ROFL

Reerun_KC
05-22-2007, 12:52 PM
I KNOW!!
It's like OJ, a hero for years, then you go and kill one ex-wife. . .

ROFL ROFL


Holy CRAP! That was ROFL!!!!!!

OnTheWarpath15
05-22-2007, 12:54 PM
I dunno though, we saw a flash of Trent in 06 when we drafted Croyle. He was doing the draft coverage for ESPN or whatever, and actually said something along the lines of "I don't know why we drafted a quarterback..."

...I think he felt the beginning of the end before even last season started...

Good call, I remember that now.

But at 36 years old he had to think the end was coming in the next couple of years.....

Hammock Parties
05-22-2007, 12:55 PM
Trent appears to be in denial.

ChiefaRoo
05-22-2007, 12:55 PM
yeah, like Page.


Frankie, I swear I will drink your blood and those of your children if you post another cynical infidel sentence. You have offended all the true believers in the Chiefs and if I were to see you face to face I would strike you down. God willing.

InChiefsHell
05-22-2007, 12:59 PM
Good call, I remember that now.

But at 36 years old he had to think the end was coming in the next couple of years.....

One would think...

...but I believe he got a bit of a slap in the face there...then they fire Shea...

...he was used to being in the know, and having his opinion valued...that's the Vermeil effect. Reality bites... :shrug:

OnTheWarpath15
05-22-2007, 01:00 PM
One would think...

...but I believe he got a bit of a slap in the face there...then they fire Shea...

...he was used to being in the know, and having his opinion valued...that's the Vermeil effect. Reality bites... :shrug:

Bingo.

Simply Red
05-22-2007, 01:02 PM
Frankie, I swear I will drink your blood and those of your children if you post another cynical infidel sentence. You have offended all the true believers in the Chiefs and if I were to see you face to face I would strike you down. God willing.

:shake:

Iowanian
05-22-2007, 01:03 PM
Are there ANY "vermiel guys" who didn't turn into substandard performing-whining bidges after DV left?

InChiefsHell
05-22-2007, 01:03 PM
Are there ANY "vermiel guys" who didn't turn into substandard performing-whining bidges after DV left?

Gonzo? Eddie? Maybe that's about it...

ChiefaRoo
05-22-2007, 01:09 PM
:shake:

What? I just want to speak to him in a language he understands.

Frankie
05-22-2007, 01:11 PM
Frankie, I swear I will drink your blood and those of your children if you post another cynical infidel sentence. You have offended all the true believers in the Chiefs and if I were to see you face to face I would strike you down. God willing.
You and what Army?
:p

Direckshun
05-22-2007, 01:17 PM
I'm sure they'll care about his opinion on everything in Miami.

ChiefaRoo
05-22-2007, 01:17 PM
Actually me and the FBI. We've been watching you for months. :)

Reerun_KC
05-22-2007, 01:20 PM
Actually me and the FBI. We've been watching you for months. :)

STALKER!

morphius
05-22-2007, 01:24 PM
Now he's dodging the fair compensation question.

Blamed the Chiefs for showing their cards too quickly.

Hey Trent:

They did that out of respect for you, as wrong as it is now.......
I would have loved to hear that answer, especially if someone would have stepped up and asked him he felt that a starting QB was worth more or less then Dante Hall? Since we were able to get a 5th for him...

Plus I guess I would ask if he was insulted when they only offered a 6 for him.

ChiefaRoo
05-22-2007, 01:26 PM
STALKER!


Someone has to keep the Jiz and the rest of the bed wetters safe.

nychief
05-22-2007, 01:32 PM
I find it silly that he had a PC. That shows HOW desperate he is... ****'em its business. We never won shit with him - so ****'em. Sit back and make your money - and shut the **** up.

BY THE WAY - anyone see that Johnnie Morton is fighting MMA?

|Zach|
05-22-2007, 01:33 PM
I enjoy the chiefs and root for them as much and as hard as you do...

But I still dont like CARL...
He "enjoys" Chiefs football as much as Hammas "enjoys" Cards baseball.

brent102fire
05-22-2007, 01:33 PM
This is so funny.....

Trent has/was the best QB to grace a Chiefs uniform since Montana or Lenny.. And to watch you guys defend him one year then totally whine like little bitches the next is so commical.... Good thing DT still wasnt playing or leaving, you guys would be bashing him as well...

Carl has f*cked over the fans and the city of KC more than any player and you guys give him the benefit of the doubt more than not...

Trent is smart, He doesnt want to play for a loser coach, he wants to finish his career on a high note and he sees that KC is not the answer anymore... More power to Trent...

But his preformance in KC is by far better than any other QB in the history of the Chiefs... (except Lenny).

:clap: Well said! I personally would like to see Trent as the starter in KC this coming season. I think he still has what it takes to win a lot of football games. Even with the concussion he suffered last year. I think if he goes through all the camps/ota's he will be back in form on opening day. I would hate to see Trent in Miami or any other uniform!!!!

NewChief
05-22-2007, 01:35 PM
So what happened in the presser? He complained about the way Terry got fired?

The reason he's complaining is that Terry was the scapegoat for the shitty offensive performance this year. Next year, Solari better watch his ass. Dick Curl is the man when it comes to the offense these days.

chagrin
05-22-2007, 01:59 PM
So what happened in the presser? He complained about the way Terry got fired?

I don't know man, with all the rambling hogwash going on, I have no idea which way is up right about now.


The reason he's complaining is that Terry was the scapegoat for the shitty offensive performance this year. Next year, Solari better watch his ass. Dick Curl is the man when it comes to the offense these days.

All I know is we had an OC with absolutely no experience calling plays in the NFL, that's a very easy problem to recognize. My own opinion is that Trent came back too soon and I also think the play calling was shaky at the very least.

HemiEd
05-22-2007, 02:01 PM
My how things can change in a year.

Last year everyone was confident in Greens ability...then he get a cheap shot on him and suffers a bad concussion.

Now everyone who was on Greens side is against him.

Bunch of band-wagoneers

Yep, jumped on the CHIEFS bandwagon about 38 years ago. Trent deserves all the criticism he gets, **** him. He is the one that undermined every thing he accomplished with the Chiefs, by being a whiny bitch on that interview. **** him and **** the Dolphins.

dirk digler
05-22-2007, 02:05 PM
Shit I was gone for a couple of hours and all hell breaks loose.

So what did Trent actually say?

The Bad Guy
05-22-2007, 02:05 PM
This is so funny.....

Trent has/was the best QB to grace a Chiefs uniform since Montana or Lenny.. And to watch you guys defend him one year then totally whine like little bitches the next is so commical.... Good thing DT still wasnt playing or leaving, you guys would be bashing him as well...

Carl has f*cked over the fans and the city of KC more than any player and you guys give him the benefit of the doubt more than not...

Trent is smart, He doesnt want to play for a loser coach, he wants to finish his career on a high note and he sees that KC is not the answer anymore... More power to Trent...

But his preformance in KC is by far better than any other QB in the history of the Chiefs... (except Lenny).

How many Chiefs' QBs had the line that the Chiefs did?

Trent is a system QB. He's smart because he's made millions of dollars being a system guy. He's Alvin Harper next to Irvin, he's Brett Perriman next to Herman Moore. Take Trent Green out of the Martz system and you see what type of QB he is.

I'm really, really shocked that you would take the fact that the Chiefs want to get rid of a 37-year old QB, who has a scrambled brain, as a slam on Herm. Who would have thought that the broken record would do so?

I respect what Trent did for the time he was here, but I have a big problem with him trying to dictate where he wants to play when he made all of his money because of the Chiefs - not because he's some genius QB. He was the QB he was because of the line he had.

If Brodie Croyle had Willie Roaf, Waters, Shields all performing at an optimal level, he would easily throw for 3,500 yards and 20 TDs.

I hope when Trent leaves town, you decide to leave this board.

The Bad Guy
05-22-2007, 02:07 PM
He "enjoys" Chiefs football as much as Hammas "enjoys" Cards baseball.

He said he wanted the Chiefs to be horrible just so Herm could be gone.

He's a ****ing liar.

Reerun_KC
05-22-2007, 02:11 PM
I hope when Trent leaves town, you decide to leave this board.


Nope, I am here and staying here....

Why would I leave when you are providing such quality entertainment?


By the way, solid post.

Hootie
05-22-2007, 02:12 PM
told you guys!!!

Reerun_KC
05-22-2007, 02:20 PM
told you guys!!!


Hootie, you are the man!

Now predict how many TD's and Yards Huard will throw for this year in the SuperBowl.

Chiefnj
05-22-2007, 02:21 PM
If Brodie Croyle had Willie Roaf, Waters, Shields all performing at an optimal level, he would easily throw for 3,500 yards and 20 TDs.
.

It's up to Herm to build a line like that.

NewChief
05-22-2007, 02:34 PM
Heh.

I just found out the deal on the "press conference." He got there, and the media asked him if he'd answer some questions, so he did. He didn't even know they were going to interview him when he went in today. What a "press conference."

Eleazar
05-22-2007, 02:36 PM
I'm gonna jump on the Reerun_KC on ignore bandwagon...

Hammock Parties
05-22-2007, 02:50 PM
So what happened in the presser? He complained about the way Terry got fired?

The reason he's complaining is that Terry was the scapegoat for the shitty offensive performance this year. Next year, Solari better watch his ass. Dick Curl is the man when it comes to the offense these days.

Scapegoat...gimme a break.

Reerun_KC
05-22-2007, 02:57 PM
I'm gonna jump on the Reerun_KC on ignore bandwagon...


That sucks dude. You post some pretty good stuff..

Well Cheers!

ChiefaRoo
05-22-2007, 02:59 PM
That sucks dude. You post some pretty good stuff..

Well Cheers!

Don't take it personal Reerun Cochise is having his monthly and he's got real bad cramps.

Reerun_KC
05-22-2007, 03:01 PM
Don't take it personal Reerun Cochise is having his monthly and he's got real bad cramps.


I dont, I get ignored and un-ignored all the time...

Hell I have people on my ignore list...

No biggie... The Bad Guy found his way back on my list agian....

Iowanian
05-22-2007, 03:04 PM
Good. If Solari's play calling is as unimaginative and predictable this year as it was last year, his ass should be packing.

So what happened in the presser? He complained about the way Terry got fired?

The reason he's complaining is that Terry was the scapegoat for the shitty offensive performance this year. Next year, Solari better watch his ass. Dick Curl is the man when it comes to the offense these days.

Iowanian
05-22-2007, 03:05 PM
Rerun is the most football-butthurt on the board.

Its like watching jaz if jaz if CP were republican or Recxjake if Carl owned Honda.

Reerun_KC
05-22-2007, 03:07 PM
Rerun is the most football-butthurt on the board.. That was funny


Its like watching jaz if jaz if CP were republican or Recxjake if Carl owned Honda.
WTF did you just say?

Iowanian
05-22-2007, 03:09 PM
You bitch....ALOT.

HemiEd
05-22-2007, 03:09 PM
That was funny



WTF did you just say?

He said Jaz is a liberal and Rex don't like Hondas. Pretty simple really.

Reerun_KC
05-22-2007, 03:10 PM
You bitch....ALOT.


Ah okay.. Yeah nothing better to do right now then waste time at work and jump on here to stir up the pot...

Its all good...

Reerun_KC
05-22-2007, 03:10 PM
He said Jaz is a liberal and Rex don't like Hondas. Pretty simple really.


Thanks HemiEd....

morphius
05-22-2007, 03:12 PM
Heh.

I just found out the deal on the "press conference." He got there, and the media asked him if he'd answer some questions, so he did. He didn't even know they were going to interview him when he went in today. What a "press conference."
I guess the question is was he actually the scapegoat or was it an issue that he didn't agree with the way the O was heading, and was let go because Herm wanted more 3 yard runs?

NY CHIEF
05-22-2007, 03:25 PM
Trent should have a pc in miami telling them to pony up a 4th or 5th round pick ROFL

NewChief
05-22-2007, 04:15 PM
I guess the question is was he actually the scapegoat or was it an issue that he didn't agree with the way the O was heading, and was let go because Herm wanted more 3 yard runs?

That's a good point. Maybe scapegoat isn't the right word. Maybe it's just that he was the last vestige of the old offense. I know that he's the only one that knew WTF was going on when it came to the passing game. Doesn't matter, though, the offense will be entirely revamped this year. Totally new terminology and an extremely "simple" offense that "anyone" can understand. My understanding was that there was no support or desire to really learn or install the actual offense from the years before.

Hammock Parties
05-22-2007, 05:44 PM
I doubt it will be completely new terminology.

Chief Roundup
05-22-2007, 06:45 PM
Plus I guess I would ask if he was insulted when they only offered a 6 for him.
In Greens first PC it was brought up and he said that he thought it was more than fair since Randy Moss, Darrell Jackson both went for 4th round picks and they were a lot younger than he is.

booger
05-22-2007, 06:58 PM
Green says he's done with the Chiefs
5/22/2007, 7:38 p.m. EDT
By DOUG TUCKER
The Associated Press

KANSAS CITY, Mo. (AP) Angry and frustrated because his deal with Miami has been held up, Trent Green practiced with Kansas City on Tuesday while insisting he has no plans to ever play for the Chiefs again.

It's a situation the two-time Pro Bowl quarterback finds very uncomfortable.

"It's not only awkward for me and my family, but it's awkward for the guys in the weight room, in the locker room, on the practice field," he said. "I'm here every day. People ask, 'What's going on?' Guys don't know how to react to me, how to treat me."

Green, who turns 37 in July, was one of the NFL's most productive quarterbacks from 2001-05, but sustained a severe concussion in the opener last season and did not play well when he returned for the second half of the year. He had three turnovers in a lopsided playoff loss to Indianapolis.

When he was asked in February by Chiefs president Carl Peterson to restructure his contract and take a reduced role, he asked for permission to find another team.

Miami worked out a contract with Green, but the Chiefs and Dolphins have been at odds over compensation, with Miami offering a sixth-round draft choice and Peterson insisting on a fourth-round pick.

The standoff has escalated with Green's agent saying Green would not play for the Chiefs again. Peterson fired right back, saying he was prepared to keep the veteran as a backup and pay his guaranteed $7.2 million this year.

Head coach Herm Edwards has said several times that he would give second-year man Brodie Croyle every chance to seize the job. He also said as recently as Monday that the competition between Green, Croyle and Damon Huard would be fair, that everybody would be given the same opportunity to win the job.

"He's always very careful to put a disclaimer at the end and say, 'But everybody's going to be equal, everybody's going to have the same number of reps,'" Green said. "He's the head coach. He can do what he wants.

"But I've been in the league long enough and when you see those comments over the course of several months and you see the way the reps are going to work out, and you see what Brodie's making, what Damon was re-signed for and what I'm making, it's not a fair competition. It's a weighted competition."


If a deal is not worked out, would he retire before staying with the Chiefs, especially as a backup?

"I really haven't had that discussion with my wife or my family and I haven't had that discussion with my agent because I'm still banking on the fact that the deal that was made back in February or March, that they would get the trade done," he said. "I guess when that time comes, then I'll have to cross that bridge."

At Miami, Green would probably serve as a caretaker while the Dolphins groom John Beck of Brigham Young, who was selected in the second round of last month's draft.

There has been speculation Miami will trade or release Daunte Culpepper, who is still hobbled by a 2005 knee injury. Culpepper played only four games last season and has yet to receive medical clearance to participate in minicamp next month.

Miami head coach Cam Cameron was Green's quarterback coach at Washington, and Terry Shea, Green's longtime quarterback coach in Kansas City who was fired at the end of the season, has also wound up with the Dolphins.

Green said the Dolphins had not promised he would start.

"They haven't said, 'You're the guy, come right in,'" he said. "They haven't told me one way or another. I just know I would have a much more fair chance, for my mind. Because here, it's obviously weighted."

The Chiefs have two more practices this week and then three next week before a mandatory three-day minicamp June 1-3. Green said if he's not in Miami, he will take part.

"Players and coaches alike have come up to me and said, 'We support you. What's going on is wrong,'" he said. "I've had to step back because I don't even know my role. There's an awkwardness there."


Saw this on chiefscoalition.
http://www.mlive.com/sportsflash/topstories/index.ssf?/base/sports-17/1179878369118790.xml&storylist=&thispage=1

The Bad Guy
05-22-2007, 07:06 PM
So when the Dolphins make him a backup next year, is he going to whine like a bitch then too?

el borracho
05-22-2007, 07:10 PM
WTF is Trent's problem? Is he really that upset that he hasn't been guaranteed the starting job in KC? That for the first time in 6 years he has to earn the job? What a pussy. Why doesn't he just step up to the competition and win the damn job? Is he really afraid he can't compete with Croyle and/ or Huard? What an embarrassment.

el borracho
05-22-2007, 07:11 PM
So when the Dolphins make him a backup next year, is he going to whine like a bitch then too?
I would love to see that!

noa
05-22-2007, 07:14 PM
I feel so bad for Trent that his workplace is awkward. That must be really tough. And can you imagine the stress of having to wait until the last minute to buy your mansion in Miami? How does his family cope with all of these difficulties?

Hammock Parties
05-22-2007, 07:27 PM
WTF is Trent's problem? Is he really that upset that he hasn't been guaranteed the starting job in KC? That for the first time in 6 years he has to earn the job? What a pussy. Why doesn't he just step up to the competition and win the damn job? Is he really afraid he can't compete with Croyle and/ or Huard? What an embarrassment.

But it's weighted! :deevee:

morphius
05-22-2007, 07:56 PM
That's a good point. Maybe scapegoat isn't the right word. Maybe it's just that he was the last vestige of the old offense. I know that he's the only one that knew WTF was going on when it came to the passing game. Doesn't matter, though, the offense will be entirely revamped this year. Totally new terminology and an extremely "simple" offense that "anyone" can understand. My understanding was that there was no support or desire to really learn or install the actual offense from the years before.

I get the general feeling that nobody on the O side of the ball is very happy. Waters doesn't sound please, Wiegmann seems to hate the fact that they are moving away from a wide open offense. Heck, even Will Shields made a comment about it after he retired.

So far Herm has yet to prove that he knows anything about running an offense. Hell, I honestly felt better about the offense with Gun in charge, at least he tried to look at what kind of Offenses gave him the most problems, and tried to build his offense that way. But heck, we are talking about Herm, the man who hired Hackett even after the all conservative Marty couldn't take it any longer.

We still may come out of it okay, and maybe we will make some trips to the playoff's. We may, but this could be very painful to watch.

Hammock Parties
05-22-2007, 08:08 PM
Herm is just doing what he can with what he has. We don't have the players to run that offense anymore. Larry isn't versatile enough. We don't have the receivers. Our coordinator isn't experienced enough in it.

Our talent matches the profile of a smashmouth offense. Think the 1986 Giants or 2000 Ravens.

Skip Towne
05-22-2007, 08:18 PM
Herm is just doing what he can with what he has. We don't have the players to run that offense anymore. Larry isn't versatile enough. We don't have the receivers. Our coordinator isn't experienced enough in it.

Our talent matches the profile of a smashmouth offense. Think the 1986 Giants or 2000 Ravens.
You were what...4 years old when the '86 Giants played? What an amazing memory you have. Or are you just regurgitating what you read again?

NewChief
05-22-2007, 09:05 PM
WTF is Trent's problem? Is he really that upset that he hasn't been guaranteed the starting job in KC? That for the first time in 6 years he has to earn the job? What a pussy. Why doesn't he just step up to the competition and win the damn job? Is he really afraid he can't compete with Croyle and/ or Huard? What an embarrassment.

As I've tried to explain to you repeatedly, it has nothing to do with not being guaranteed a starting job. It has to do with the unspoken truth (no matter what BS Carl blows up the media's ass) that he won't be on the Chiefs roster at the start of the season. He knows this. Carl knows this. Miami knows this. Herm knows this. It was made crystal clear earlier in the offseason, even if the official line was that they just wanted him to restructure. Even if the new official line is that they may want to pay him his full contract. The only people that are misguided enough to think that he'll actually be on the Chiefs roster are the fans that hold on to some hope that he'll be there for whatever reason. As such, them holding onto him is, yes, screwing the Dolphins and making the Chiefs look like hardasses that don't screw around when it comes to negotiating. But it's also screwing Trent in that he knows come regular season, he's going to be looking for a new team. As such, he's pissed and doing what he can to land himself in a good situation for the upcoming season. I'm sorry that he doesn't live up to your high minded ideas of what an NFL player should do or be, but he's looking out for himself and his family, because he doesn't want to be looking for a new team come August.

Iowanian
05-22-2007, 09:11 PM
Trent Green has been a model citizen and a good Chief, who lead some exciting offenses in the past. I think his whining hurts his image and its unfortunate that things are shaking out this way.

Reerun_KC
05-22-2007, 09:14 PM
Trent Green has been a model citizen and a good Chief, who lead some exciting offenses in the past. I think his whining hurts his image and its unfortunate that things are shaking out this way.

Very true... Honestly living out of market, I dont see it, hear it and only read what is posted on the planet...

Sucks to see such a stellar legacy in KC be tarnished by this crap Trent and Carl are pulling.... We should be so lucky that anyone is offering any type of pick for a QB that is 37 and scrabbled...

Carl just needs to get this done. He, like Trent, is looking like a douche as well...

Mecca
05-22-2007, 09:16 PM
WTF is Trent's problem? Is he really that upset that he hasn't been guaranteed the starting job in KC? That for the first time in 6 years he has to earn the job? What a pussy. Why doesn't he just step up to the competition and win the damn job? Is he really afraid he can't compete with Croyle and/ or Huard? What an embarrassment.

His problem is he was told told they were going away from him....then told he'd be traded by draft day and wasn't.........

If you were in his spot you'd be pissed off too........

It just blows my mind that some people really think he should just sit there and act like "golly gee I guess I shouldn't say or do anything" he's doing what anyone in his spot would do.......actually some guys would do alot worse.

Reerun_KC
05-22-2007, 09:19 PM
His problem is he was told told they were going away from him....then told he'd be traded by draft day and wasn't.........

If you were in his spot you'd be pissed off too........

It just blows my mind that some people really think he should just sit there and act like "golly gee I guess I shouldn't say or do anything" he's doing what anyone in his spot would do.......actually some guys would do alot worse.

Well I could think of 7 million reasons to be happy...

If the Chiefs cut him, we will be hosed with the cap space, plus I am sure someone will pick him up.. He only has 2 years left anyway...

the Talking Can
05-22-2007, 09:23 PM
His problem is he was told told they were going away from him....then told he'd be traded by draft day and wasn't.........

If you were in his spot you'd be pissed off too........

It just blows my mind that some people really think he should just sit there and act like "golly gee I guess I shouldn't say or do anything" he's doing what anyone in his spot would do.......actually some guys would do alot worse.

then why isn't he mad at Miami? they refused to trade for him....sorry, but you give away players in the NFL....I don't care about his feelings...he gets paid millions for his feelings....


this is Miami's problem....until the offer something, Green is a chief...

Mecca
05-22-2007, 09:25 PM
then why isn't he mad at Miami? they refused to trade for him....sorry, but you give away players in the NFL....I don't care about his feelings...he gets paid millions for his feelings....


this is Miami's problem....until the offer something, Green is a chief...

Maybe he isn't thrilled with them but it makes little sense to say much when that team doesn't have the power to move you......

All of the moves he can realistically make to force hands are between him and the Chiefs.

the Talking Can
05-22-2007, 09:28 PM
Maybe he isn't thrilled with them but it makes little sense to say much when that team doesn't have the power to move you......

All of the moves he can realistically make to force hands are between him and the Chiefs.

he has no leverage with the Chiefs...

Chiefs will hold him till the last day possible - as they should - unless Miami decides to actually offer something fair and reasonable, as they should...

Trent's opinion on any of it is irrelevant...and no one on the team is losing any sleep over it....

Mecca
05-22-2007, 09:30 PM
Well.......I don't think Trent's worth as much as Randy Moss is.......

I think some people are a little overzealous about what his worth really is......

MadMax
05-22-2007, 09:37 PM
Good. If Solari's play calling is as unimaginative and predictable this year as it was last year, his ass should be packing.


Yikes! I forgot we still have nolearny as OC this year... CHIT! At least he can't call that wr screen 3 yards in the backfield to Hall 10 times a game.. :shake: Damn, now i'm depressed, Solari absolutely sucked.

htismaqe
05-22-2007, 09:39 PM
A 6th-rounder and a swap of 3rds would have been VERY reasonable. Too bad Miami refused.

Skip Towne
05-22-2007, 09:41 PM
Well.......I don't think Trent's worth as much as Randy Moss is.......

I think some people are a little overzealous about what his worth really is......
Randy Moss is an entirely different deal. He has a lot of baggage that Trent doesn't have.

morphius
05-22-2007, 09:42 PM
Well.......I don't think Trent's worth as much as Randy Moss is.......

I think some people are a little overzealous about what his worth really is......
Do you think he is worth more then Sims, Dante, or Tynes?

007
05-22-2007, 09:52 PM
Do you think he is worth more then Sims, Dante, or Tynes?
Is that a trick question?

The Bad Guy
05-22-2007, 09:53 PM
Well I could think of 7 million reasons to be happy...

If the Chiefs cut him, we will be hosed with the cap space, plus I am sure someone will pick him up.. He only has 2 years left anyway...

If the Chiefs cut him or trade him, the same cap penalty applies.

The Bad Guy
05-22-2007, 09:56 PM
His problem is he was told told they were going away from him....then told he'd be traded by draft day and wasn't.........

If you were in his spot you'd be pissed off too........

It just blows my mind that some people really think he should just sit there and act like "golly gee I guess I shouldn't say or do anything" he's doing what anyone in his spot would do.......actually some guys would do alot worse.

And that's the problem with athletes.

If I'm told that I have to either relocate somewhere like Cleveland or I'd lose my job, I'd relocate to Cleveland.

But Trent wants to hold all the cards.

He makes 7.2 freaking million dollars this year. He's made more money than his grandkids, grandkid's kids will ever need and he wants to act like a bitch.

I don't know what dilluted world you live in, but the Chiefs shouldn't just ****ing give this guy away.

OnTheWarpath15
05-22-2007, 09:59 PM
And that's the problem with athletes.

If I'm told that I have to either relocate somewhere like Cleveland or I'd lose my job, I'd relocate to Cleveland.

But Trent wants to hold all the cards.

He makes 7.2 freaking million dollars this year. He's made more money than his grandkids, grandkid's kids will ever need and he wants to act like a bitch.

I don't know what dilluted world you live in, but the Chiefs shouldn't just ****ing give this guy away.

The one where he's always right and EVERYONE else is always wrong.

Haven't you been paying attention around here?

CoMoChief
05-22-2007, 10:07 PM
then why isn't he mad at Miami? they refused to trade for him....sorry, but you give away players in the NFL....I don't care about his feelings...he gets paid millions for his feelings....


this is Miami's problem....until the offer something, Green is a chief...


Because Carl is the arrogant one here. He told Green to go out and find a team that you could play for and then Carl would take care of the rest. In all honesty Green isn't worth more than a 6th round pick. He's 37yrs old, mobility is waay out of the question, he plays scared, he is a system QB that played well behind one of the greatest Olines this league has ever seen with a great running game and arguably the best TE in NFL history. Without that Green isn't anything more than an avg NFL QB. Coming off a bad concussion injury let alone his age completely lowers his value.

Hammock Parties
05-22-2007, 10:09 PM
There's no precedent for giving someone a starting QB for a 6th-round pick. None whatsoever.

Joe Montana was coming off a major injury and hadn't done shit since, I dunno, 1991? 1990? We gave up a friggin FIRST-ROUNDER for him.

OnTheWarpath15
05-22-2007, 10:12 PM
There's no precedent for giving someone a starting QB for a 6th-round pick. None whatsoever.

Joe Montana was coming off a major injury and hadn't done shit since, I dunno, 1991? 1990? We gave up a friggin FIRST-ROUNDER for him.

But he wasn't 37 years old.....


:rolleyes:

OnTheWarpath15
05-22-2007, 10:16 PM
Dammit.

No one took the bait.......

:banghead:

Mecca
05-22-2007, 10:25 PM
The one where he's always right and EVERYONE else is always wrong.

Haven't you been paying attention around here?

.......I'm sure I'm the only one who posts like that..........

el borracho
05-22-2007, 10:38 PM
NewChief,
The Chiefs asked Trent to restructure his contract and Trent declined. Trent then asked to be traded because he wants to be a starter in a system he knows. Until it can be proven otherwise I will maintain that Trent could have restructured and remained in KC and been in nearly the same scenario he will be in Miami- a chance to start this year but not next. What is the difference? Certainly not a chance to win the SuperBowl. A chance to start? I think he would have had that here although I know that point is debatable. Well, guess what- the starter's position is not guaranteed in Miami, either, or they would have offered more than a throw-away pick to acquire Trent. Familiarity with the system and the OC? Sorry, but at this stage in Trent's career he is in no position to be choosy. If Trent is in fact worth only a late round pick (Trent himself said that is his value) then he should also realize that 6th round picks don't get to choose where they go. He should additionaly realize the difficulty normal people have sympathizing with a millionaire who doesn't get exactly what he wants, when he wants it.

KCBOSS1
05-22-2007, 10:39 PM
Where was all of this trashing when Trent was throwing for 4000 yards, being a stellar leader waiting for the defense that never showed up. There was no complaining, no calling him a "whiney bitch" and all of this BS that goes on around here. Even if you don't agree with his stance in this situation, He and the Chiefs front office are in a chess match. When it's all said and done, I'll still be all chief, wearing my jersey on Sundays and I'll also be a Trent Green fan. The planet will always be the planet filled with some good comments but primarily easy chair general managers and head coaches who really don't know their butt from a hole in the ground as far as football business. These guys all know what they're doing, we've got no choice but to ride it out. I wish him totally the best. If the Chiefs don't make the SB, I would seriously love for Trent to make it. Neither will probably happen, but oh well.

KCBOSS1
05-22-2007, 10:45 PM
If I knew that I was in the last few years of my contract, I would hold the cards. He wants to start, more power to him, he deserves it. He wants to spend his last few years in Miami in a coaching system where he doesn't have to go back to the drawing board, can't blame him for that. If I was sitting in his position where I could hold some of the cards, I would. So would you. Trent, do your thing. Carl, you're obviously going to do yours. Me, I have to begin thinking about more important things like my fantasy league next year and winning the "Bumlardy" trophy.

The Bad Guy
05-23-2007, 05:31 AM
Where was all of this trashing when Trent was throwing for 4000 yards, being a stellar leader waiting for the defense that never showed up. There was no complaining, no calling him a "whiney bitch" and all of this BS that goes on around here. Even if you don't agree with his stance in this situation, He and the Chiefs front office are in a chess match. When it's all said and done, I'll still be all chief, wearing my jersey on Sundays and I'll also be a Trent Green fan. The planet will always be the planet filled with some good comments but primarily easy chair general managers and head coaches who really don't know their butt from a hole in the ground as far as football business. These guys all know what they're doing, we've got no choice but to ride it out. I wish him totally the best. If the Chiefs don't make the SB, I would seriously love for Trent to make it. Neither will probably happen, but oh well.

And the planet will also be filled with jerkoff newbees that think that you have to lick the ass of every Chief to be a real fan and know what you're talking about.

Where were the people complaining when he threw for 4k? They weren't.

If you didn't know that already, you're a bigger retard than I imagined.

penguinz
05-23-2007, 06:03 AM
Where was all of this trashing when Trent was throwing for 4000 yards, being a stellar leader waiting for the defense that never showed up. There was no complaining, no calling him a "whiney bitch" and all of this BS that goes on around here. Even if you don't agree with his stance in this situation, He and the Chiefs front office are in a chess match. When it's all said and done, I'll still be all chief, wearing my jersey on Sundays and I'll also be a Trent Green fan. The planet will always be the planet filled with some good comments but primarily easy chair general managers and head coaches who really don't know their butt from a hole in the ground as far as football business. These guys all know what they're doing, we've got no choice but to ride it out. I wish him totally the best. If the Chiefs don't make the SB, I would seriously love for Trent to make it. Neither will probably happen, but oh well.None of this has anything o do with him being a whiny bitch right now.

NewChief
05-23-2007, 06:55 AM
A chance to start? I think he would have had that here although I know that point is debatable. Well, guess what- the starter's position is not guaranteed in Miami, either, or they would have offered more than a throw-away pick to acquire Trent.

Okay. Then your entire argument that he's complaining because he's scared to compete for a starting position goes out the window. He wants out, because he wants out. It has nothing to do with fear of competition.

InChiefsHell
05-23-2007, 07:27 AM
Where was all of this trashing when Trent was throwing for 4000 yards, being a stellar leader waiting for the defense that never showed up. There was no complaining, no calling him a "whiney bitch" and all of this BS that goes on around here. Even if you don't agree with his stance in this situation, He and the Chiefs front office are in a chess match. When it's all said and done, I'll still be all chief, wearing my jersey on Sundays and I'll also be a Trent Green fan. The planet will always be the planet filled with some good comments but primarily easy chair general managers and head coaches who really don't know their butt from a hole in the ground as far as football business. These guys all know what they're doing, we've got no choice but to ride it out. I wish him totally the best. If the Chiefs don't make the SB, I would seriously love for Trent to make it. Neither will probably happen, but oh well.

This is a dumb-ass post. Where was all the trashing of Trent when he was throwing for 4000 yards, blah blah blah...well, there was no reason to trash him then was there? You're comparing apples and oranges. Nobody bitches about anything until they are given a reason to. Up until this debacle, we have had no reason to bitch about Trent.

I personally love the guy and I want to see this shit end, before he just completely implodes and becomes hated. He needs to STFU and STFD. This "Press Conference" was pointless and un-needed...all it did was stir more shit. Trent, I love ya, now shut up. Carl, I know you want what's best for the team, and right now getting rid of Trent at any price is best. Let him go and let us all move on...

nychief
05-23-2007, 07:38 AM
Trent has never ever won anything ever.

htismaqe
05-23-2007, 08:17 AM
Okay. Then your entire argument that he's complaining because he's scared to compete for a starting position goes out the window. He wants out, because he wants out. It has nothing to do with fear of competition.

Trent said flat out yesterday that the competition in KC was weighted, yet the Miami situation is "fair" because he's a veteran that already knows 80% of the playbook.

Seems to me Trent has NO PROBLEM competing in a WEIGHTED competition, as long as the competition is weighted towards him.

Futhermore, Trent isn't being honest. He said that the starting job in Miami isn't guaranteed out of one side of his mouth, while saying out of the other side that he specifically sought out the Miami Dolphins because he was looking for a team that would ask him to be "the guy" and a "leader".

keg in kc
05-23-2007, 08:24 AM
I thought the funniest part of the whole interview was Green trying to promote the idea that he was mislead because the trade didn't happen and that it's the Chiefs' fault.

I understand not throwing your new team under the bus, but christ he came off sounding like a moron. Shit, dude, it's business, and sometimes things take a little longer. Quitcherbitchin.

Of course Kietzman took the ball and ran with it. That was some of the most hilarious radio I've heard in a while.

htismaqe
05-23-2007, 08:29 AM
I thought the funniest part of the whole interview was Green trying to promote the idea that he was mislead because the trade didn't happen and that it's the Chiefs' fault.

I understand not throwing your new team under the bus, but christ he came off sounding like a moron. Shit, dude, it's business, and sometimes things take a little longer. Quitcherbitchin.

Of course Kietzman took the ball and ran with it. That was some of the most hilarious radio I've heard in a while.

"I dont' wanna get all philosophical here, but I have friends. And we don't sit around a compare paychecks. Carl is a shallow man. He has no true friends."

ROFL ROFL ROFL

Brock
05-23-2007, 08:33 AM
It's sad to see him embarrassing himself this way. He definitely isn't the guy I always thought he was.

Reerun_KC
05-23-2007, 08:38 AM
Trent has never ever won anything ever.

He has more superbowl rings than most of the current roster, coach and GM....

Just food for thought....

el borracho
05-23-2007, 08:38 AM
Okay. Then your entire argument that he's complaining because he's scared to compete for a starting position goes out the window. He wants out, because he wants out. It has nothing to do with fear of competition.
I actually think Trent is offended that the Chiefs didn't guarantee he would start here.

From one of the other 600 Trent threads:
Trent got his feelings hurt because he is no longer in the cabal at Arrowhead and he is no longer guaranteed the job. Big deal. If Trent wants to start he should show up to camp and preseason and be so damn good that the Chiefs have to start him- just like all the other players. Trent is reminiscient of an A-list actor who is used to smoking cigars and sipping brandy with the director and is now offended at the idea of auditioning for a part. Sorry, Trent, you're getting older and your last feature as a leading man was a box office bomb. I'm going to need you to read for the part.

Brock
05-23-2007, 08:40 AM
He has more superbowl rings than most of the current roster, coach and GM....

Just food for thought....

Yeah, that's really relevant.

el borracho
05-23-2007, 08:42 AM
He has more superbowl rings than most of the current roster, coach and GM....

Just food for thought....
I forget... what were his stats that year and what were his stats in that SuperBowl?

Reerun_KC
05-23-2007, 08:42 AM
I actually think Trent is offended that the Chiefs didn't guarantee he would start here.


He needs to get over it and prove he can start! There is always someone younger and better trying to take your place. Welcome to professional sports Trent....

You are guaranted nothing in the NFL, unless your are a Manning or McNabb. Then the league will suck you off at a moments notice...

Reerun_KC
05-23-2007, 08:44 AM
I forget... what were his stats that year and what were his stats in that SuperBowl?


Ask Rodney Harrison?

Bash him all you want on that, but he has at least attented a superbowl and obtained some hardware....

Wasnt Carl part of the Eagles staff when DV took them to the superbowl?

htismaqe
05-23-2007, 08:45 AM
He needs to get over it and prove he can start! There is always someone younger and better trying to take your place. Welcome to professional sports Trent....

You are guaranted nothing in the NFL, unless your are a Manning or McNabb. Then the league will suck you off at a moments notice...

Even McNabb isn't safe. The drama surrounding Green has been so intense, most people in KC aren't aware of the QB drama brewing in Philly...

Reerun_KC
05-23-2007, 08:50 AM
Even McNabb isn't safe. The drama surrounding Green has been so intense, most people in KC aren't aware of the QB drama brewing in Philly...

McNabb? How dare you speak agianst the media darling of the NFL?

True, McNabb is on his way out, his injuries are to common and he is to unrealible to continue to build a franchise around....

el borracho
05-23-2007, 08:53 AM
Ask Rodney Harrison?

Bash him all you want on that, but he has at least attented a superbowl and obtained some hardware....

Wasnt Carl part of the Eagles staff when DV took them to the superbowl?
I'm not bashing Green for getting hurt but I refuse to credit him with the Rams SuperBowl since he played no part in it. It is no accomplishment at all to simply be on a SuperBowl team if you aren't a contributing factor in that team's success.

Reerun_KC
05-23-2007, 09:10 AM
I'm not bashing Green for getting hurt but I refuse to credit him with the Rams SuperBowl since he played no part in it. It is no accomplishment at all to simply be on a SuperBowl team if you aren't a contributing factor in that team's success.

Thats cool we have different views on it.... We dont know how much Green contributed behind the scenes and off the field.. We dont know the meetings, practices, film sessions, etc.. That he might or might not of attended..

But watching him last year help "The Great One" go 5-3 and so far what we read and hear about mentoring Brodie at times. I wouldnt be surprised if he didnt have some sort of contributing factor in the Rams Superbowl...

Just my thoughts...

Lzen
05-23-2007, 10:24 AM
So, it is assumed that Carl told Trent that the trade would go down by the draft? Ok, if that's the case, didn't the Dolphins and Chiefs have it narrowed down to a 4th round draft pick? At least, that was what the reports were saying around that time. Or am I not remembering right? If the Dolphins were going to give up their 4th and then went back on that, it's with them that Trent (and Trent supporters) should be pissed.

Reerun_KC
05-23-2007, 10:34 AM
So, it is assumed that Carl told Trent that the trade would go down by the draft? Ok, if that's the case, didn't the Dolphins and Chiefs have it narrowed down to a 4th round draft pick? At least, that was what the reports were saying around that time. Or am I not remembering right? If the Dolphins were going to give up their 4th and then went back on that, it's with them that Trent (and Trent supporters) should be pissed.


Not pissed, just waiting unpatiently for rock fever fest....