The Bataan Death March, Day 5: Kansas City Royals @ Boston Red Sox (7/17)

[alnorth]

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<td>Final</td> <td> 1 </td> <td> 2 </td><td> 3 </td><td> 4 </td><td> 5 </td><td> 6 </td><td> 7 </td><td> 8 </td><td> 9 </td><td> R </td><td> H </td><td> E </td></tr>
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<tr> <td>BOS (56-37)</td> <td> 0 </td> <td> 0 </td><td> 0 </td><td> 0 </td><td> 1 </td><td> 0 </td><td> 0 </td><td> 2 </td><td> 0 </td><td> 3 </td><td> 12 </td><td> 0 </td></tr>
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Leo Nunez 4IP 1R 1ER 1BB 3K
First career MLB start
Win, (4-1) Jimmy Gobble 0.2IP 0R 0ER 0BB 1K
Hold, (7) Zack Greinke 1.2IP 0R 0ER 2BB 0K
Joel Peralta 1.1IP 2R 2ER 0BB 1K
Joakim Soria 1.1IP 0R 0ER 0BB 3K

VS.

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Loss, (10-9) Tim Wakefield 6.1IP 6R 6ER 0BB 1K
Javier Lopez 0.2IP 2R 2ER 2BB 0K
Joel Pineiro 1IP 1R 1ER 0BB 1K
Kyle Snyder 1IP 0R 0ER 0BB 0K

KC

1. David DeJesus, CF
2. Mark Grudzielanek, 2B
3. Mark Teahen, RF
4. Billy Butler, DH
5. Ross Gload, 1B
6. Reggie Sanders, LF
6. Emil Brown, LF
7. Alex Gordon, 3B
8. John Buck, C
9. Tony Pena Jr, SS
9. Jason Smith, SS

BOS

1. J. D. Drew, RF
1. Eric Hinske, LF
2. Dustin, Pedroia, 2B
3. David Ortiz, DH
4. Manny Ramirez, LF
4. Wily Mo Pena, LF/RF
5. Kevin Youkilis, 1B
6. Mike Lowell, 3B
7. Coco Crisp, CF
8. Doug Mirabelli, C
9. Julio Lugo, SS

[Priest4Prez]

I want to see wakefield throw a no hitter

[VonneMarie]

Here comes the massacre...

[Bowser]

Good to see Reggie Sanders back. Let's hope he hasn't lost it. Or at the very least, let's hope he can make routine fly ball outs in left. :banghead:


Got a question - what's our win/loss when John Buck is the starting catcher as opposed to Jason LaRue?

[Dr. Johnny Fever]

Nunez is gonna own tonight.

[alnorth]

Top 1st

DeJesus flies out to center
Grudzielanek flies out to center
Teahen strikes out (looking)

0 runs, 0 hits

Bottom 1st

Drew walks
Pedroia grounds into a 6-4-3 double play, Drew out at second
Ortiz singles to right
Ramirez flies out to right

0 runs, 1 hit

[alnorth]

Top 2nd

Butler grounds out to second
Gload grounds out to second
Sanders pops out to shortstop

0 runs, 0 hits

Bottom 2nd

Youkilis flies out to right
Lowell doubles to left
Crisp flies into a 9-5 double play, Lowell thrown out at third

0 runs, 1 hit

[alnorth]

Top 3rd

Gordon grounds out to second
Buck grounds out to second
Pena Jr singles to left
Pena Jr caught stealing 2-6, out at second

0 runs, 1 hit

Bottom 3rd

Mirabelli strikes out (looking)
Lugo reaches on an Error by SS
Drew flies out to right
Pedroia singles to right, Lugo to second
Ortiz grounds out to second

0 runs, 1 hit, 1 error

[Sure-Oz]

Hope reggie puts up some #'s so he can be traded for tickets to transformers

[RedDread]

Good to see Reggie Sanders back. Let's hope he hasn't lost it. Or at the very least, let's hope he can make routine fly ball outs in left. :banghead:


Got a question - what's our win/loss when John Buck is the starting catcher as opposed to Jason LaRue?

I'd like to see sanders in right, teahan at third and gordon playing first

That way we could have brown playing left, and even though he's been struggling I think he's a better bat than gload or shealy

[alnorth]

Top 4th

DeJesus flies out left
Grudzielanek hits an infield single to shortstop
Teahen singles to right, Grudzielanek to third
Butler doubles to left, Teahen and Grudzielanek scores
Gload grounds out to first, Butler to third
Sanders grounds out to pitcher

2 runs, 3 hits

Bottom 4th

Ramirez singles to right
Youkilis singles to left, Ramirez to second
Lowell flies out to left
Crisp strikes out (swinging)
Mirabelli strikes out (swinging)

0 runs, 2 hits

[Bowser]

Teahan has been a turd at the plate lately.

[SPchief]

Teahan has been a turd at the plate lately.


But he's been pretty damn good in RF

[SPchief]

Teahan with the base hit

[alnorth]

But he's been pretty damn good in LF

Especially after running all the way out to right field, and doubling up Lowell in the 2nd

[KcMizzou]

The Royals have been turds at the plate lately.

I'm generally not a "FYP" kind of guy. I find it annoying, but...

[SPchief]

Especially after running all the way out to right field, and doubling up Lowell in the 2nd


Heh, I realized what I typed a few minutes later.

[Mr. Laz]

sanders!!

[Bowser]

I'm generally not a "FYP" kind of guy. I find it annoying, but...

If ever there was a "FYP" post, that was it.

[KcMizzou]

If ever there was a "FYP" post, that was it.Yeah, that was my thinking.

Nice to see we have the early lead.

[alnorth]

Top 5th

Gordon singles to right
Gordon steals second
Gordon to third on a Wild Pitch
Buck grounds out to shortstop
Pena Jr doubles to left, Gordon scores
DeJesus flies out to left
Grudzielanek pops out to second

1 run, 2 hits

Bottom 5th

Lugo doubles to left

Jimmy Gobble relieves Nunez

Drew flies out to right, Lugo to third
Pedroia reaches on an Error by 2B, Lugo scores
Ortiz strikes out (swinging)

Zack Greinke relieves Gobble

Ramirez walks, Pedroia to second
Youkilis flies out to left

1 run, 1 hit, 1 error

[SPchief]

I'm impressed with Nunez so far.

[shakesthecat]

Nice job Nunez!

And for cryin out loud, would it kill one of the cameramen on NESN to get a close up of the blonde in the red tank top behind home plate. :cuss:

[Mr. Laz]

Nice job Nunez!

And for cryin out loud, would it kill one of the cameramen on NESN to get a close up of the blonde in the red tank top behind home plate. :cuss:
i was hoping for the same ROFL


she must of went to get something to eat ... i noticed her coming down the stairs.

[Mr. Laz]

gordon doing his willie wilson impersonation

[SPchief]

Back to Back steals by Gordon.

[SPchief]

Err, they ruled the second one a wild pitch.

[Mr. Laz]

pena!!

[Mr. Laz]

Back to Back steals by Gordon.
you moving out by me in the boonies?

[SPchief]

you moving out by me in the boonies?


Yep, but I won't be until tommorow night. I have to wait for the settlers to get back from your place. And they won't reach your place until 2 this morning.

[Mr. Laz]

Yep, but I won't be until tommorow night. I have to wait for the settlers to get back from your place. And they won't reach your place until 2 this morning.
cool ..... i got 3 new settlers ready to go tomorrow myself.

heh ... gonna have 5/6 settlers sitting around tonight. :D

[SPchief]

cool ..... i got 3 new settlers ready to go tomorrow myself.

heh ... gonna have 5/6 settlers sitting around tonight. :D


You're building up quite the village out there.

[Sure-Oz]

Nunez already out after 4.1 innings

[Mr. Laz]

You're building up quite the village out there.
trying :)

[Mr. Laz]

Nunez already out after 4.1 innings
his first time out ..... giving him a break.


besides, there is nothing that Bell likes better than to switch pitchers.


makes him feel important

[KcMizzou]

his first time out ..... giving him a break.


besides, there is nothing that Bell likes better than to switch pitchers.


makes him feel importantYeah plus the pen is suddenly a strength.

[alnorth]

Top 6th

Teahen flies out to center
Butler fouls out to catcher
Gload lines out to shortstop

0 runs, 0 hits

Bottom 6th

Lowell singles to right
Crisp grounds into a 4-6-3 double play, Lowell out at second
Mirabelli flies out to left

0 runs, 1 hit

[Coach]

Yeah plus the pen is suddenly a strength.

Kinda a refreshing moment from last year where it would go "Aw shit, here we go again" for the most part of the time.

[alnorth]

Top 7th

Sanders doubles to left
Gordon singles to right, Sanders to third
Buck doubles to left, Gordon and Sanders scores
Pena Jr grounds out to first, Buck to third

Javier Lopez relieves Wakefield

DeJesus walks
DeJesus to second, Buck scores on a Passed Ball
Grudzielanek singles to center, DeJesus scores, Grudzielanek to second on the throw home
Teahen pops out to third
Butler intentionally walked
Gload singles to left, Butler to second, Grudzielanek scores, Butler thrown out at third 7-5

5 runs, 5 hits

Bottom 7th

Emil Brown replaces Sanders at LF

Lugo singles to center
Drew flies out to center
Pedroia walks, Lugo to second

Joel Peralta relieves Greinke

Ortiz flies into a 7-6-3 double play, Pedroia out at first

0 runs, 1 hit

[Mr. Laz]

Ramirez sure put alot of effort into running down that ball. ROFL

[Coach]

Come on Buckie! Own that Green Monster!

[shakesthecat]

Hell yeah!

[Mr. Laz]

bye-bye wakefield ...... you big puzzy.

[VonneMarie]

Wo0t! W0ot!

[Mr. Laz]

c'mon Dotel ....... big 1-2-3 inning


we want your trade value waaaaaaay up. :fire:

[VonneMarie]

Wild pitch, runner scores. ROFL

[SPchief]

Nice catch by Brown there.

[alnorth]

Top 8th

Joel Pineiro relieves Lopez

Wily Mo Pena replaces Ramirez at LF

Brown grounds out to shortstop
Gordon doubles to left
Buck strikes out (swinging)
Pena Jr doubles to left, Gordon scores
DeJesus grounds out to second

1 run, 2 hits

Bottom 8th

Jason Smith replaces Pena Jr at SS

Pena strikes out (swinging)
Youkilis flies out to center
Lowell singles to left
Crisp triples to center, Lowell scores
Mirabelli singles to right, Crisp scores
Lugo doubles to left, Mirabelli to third

Joakim Soria relieves Peralta

Drew strikes out (swinging)

2 runs, 4 hits

[2112]

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I am a Royal fan today! smash the dead sox! :cuss:

[KcMizzou]

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I am a Royal fan today! smash the dead sox! :cuss:Glad to have ya. :)

[2112]

Top 7th

Sanders doubles to left
Gordon singles to right, Sanders to third
Buck doubles to left, Gordon and Sanders scores
Pena Jr grounds out to first, Buck to third

Javier Lopez relieves Wakefield

DeJesus walks
DeJesus to second, Buck scores on a Passed Ball
Grudzielanek singles to center, DeJesus scores, Grudzielanek to second on the throw home
Teahen pops out to third
Butler intentionally walked
Gload singles to left, Butler to second, Grudzielanek scores, Butler thrown out at third 7-5

5 runs, 5 hits

Bottom 7th

Emil Brown replaces Sanders at LF

Lugo singles to center
Drew flies out to center
Pedroia walks, Lugo to second

Joel Peralta relieves Greinke

Ortiz flies into a 7-6-3 double play, Pedroia out at first

0 runs, 1 hit
Dude, you do a kickass job with this thread. rep to you. I've never seen anything like it. :thumb:

[shakesthecat]

AND TWINS!!

[KcMizzou]

Damn, I'm not watching tonight... but it looks like the bats woke up.

[Coach]

Damn, I'm not watching tonight... but it looks like the bats woke up.

Well, let's hope they know that there is a game to be played tomorrow as well.

[VonneMarie]

C'mon you ****ing idiots.

[KcMizzou]

Well, let's hope they know that there is a game to be played tomorrow as well.Indeed.

[Coach]

C'mon you ****ing idiots.

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[Coach]

Indeed.

Would be nice to see if the Boys in Blue can get out of this road strech at .500 or better. I think that would be solid.

[KcMizzou]

Would be nice to see if the Boys in Blue can get out of this road strech at .500 or better. I think that would be solid.That'd be fantastic.

[alnorth]

As bad as this may look, the on-deck man cant tie the game, so its not even a save situation

[Coach]

As bad as this may look, the on-deck man cant tie the game, so its not even a save situation

Let's just hope it doesn't have to come to that.

I hate that. Gets 2 outs, and all of a sudden, can't finish the deal.

[alnorth]

Top 9th

Eric Hinske replaces Drew, and comes in at LF

Pena moves to RF

Kyle Snyder relieves Pineiro

Grudzielanek grounds out to shortstop
Teahen grounds out to third
Butler grounds out to shortstop

0 runs, 0 hits

Bottom 9th

Pedroia strikes out (looking)
Ortiz flies out to left
Pena strikes out (swinging)

0 runs, 0 hits

Royals win, 9-3

[VonneMarie]

I ****ing hate that shitty ass Snyder.

[Coach]

Well I'll be damned. It's Kyle Snyder.

[Hammock Parties]

every single ****ing close play has gone to boston... Jesus christ this east coast bias really pisses me off!!!!

[VonneMarie]

These ****ing losers better close this out.

[shakesthecat]

These ****ing losers better close this out.


Or what?

Lighten the fug up

[VonneMarie]

Or what?

Lighten the fug up
S T F U and bite me. :rolleyes:

[Coach]

Or what?

Lighten the fug up

Naw, she's fun when she's feisty.

[Coach]

S T F U and bite me. :rolleyes:

See what I mean? :D

[VonneMarie]

One more out...

[KcMizzou]

Or what?

Lighten the fug upHeh...

Vonne does get a little umm... negative... but she's a big time Royals fan. In every game thread, following every pitch.

[SPchief]

Game

[Hammock Parties]

Soria is ****ing on fire!!! I love how he has kept up every aspect of his kick assedness this entire season!! Hes looking more and more like the real deal

[VonneMarie]

We win.

[Mr. Laz]

Royals win, Royals win PBJ PBJ



soria's breaking ball was freakin' nasty tonight :clap:

[shakesthecat]

S T F U and bite me. :rolleyes:

Go bake me a pie

[KcMizzou]

Soria is ****ing on fire!!! I love how he has kept up every aspect of his kick assedness this entire season!! Hes looking more and more like the real dealYeah Soria's a badass.

How did we luck into him?

[VonneMarie]

Go bake me a pie
Come eat my pie.

[shakesthecat]

Come eat my pie.

Ah....now we're getting somewhere :p

[Pitt Gorilla]

Pena looks good again. When are the Royals Corner guys going to cut him some slack?

[VonneMarie]

Ah....now we're getting somewhere :p
You wish. rochambeau

[chiefqueen]

Royals won their 40th game. Last year they did not win #40 until Aug. 9th.

[Mr. Laz]

Come eat my pie.
:p












:redface:

[Valiant]

Maybe a person with more baseball knowledge can tell me the reason for 5ip to get the win??? You can lose it in the first 5 innings but cannot get the win...

[Coach]

Maybe a person with more baseball knowledge can tell me the reason for 5ip to get the win??? You can lose it in the first 5 innings but cannot get the win...

The person starting a game has to go 5 innings to get the win. So if Meche left after 1st inning and left with a 1-0 lead and the game ended 1-0 he would not get the win either because a starter has to go 5 innings to qualify for a win.

[KcMizzou]

The person starting a game has to go 5 innings to get the win. So if Meche left after 1st inning and left with a 1-0 lead and the game ended 1-0 he would not get the win either because a starter has to go 5 innings to qualify for a win.That's why we call ya "Coach".

[Dr. Johnny Fever]

Nunez is gonna own tonight.
Yea... someone predicted that... for 4 innings at least. Heh.

[Valiant]

The person starting a game has to go 5 innings to get the win. So if Meche left after 1st inning and left with a 1-0 lead and the game ended 1-0 he would not get the win either because a starter has to go 5 innings to qualify for a win.


Thanks but I was wondering more along the lines on why they decided to do it that way.. Any knowledge on the basis(history) of the rule on why it came to be...

[bkkcoh]

Maybe a person with more baseball knowledge can tell me the reason for 5ip to get the win??? You can lose it in the first 5 innings but cannot get the win...


Because the baseball powers think that starting pitching should pitch atleast half of the game in order to get the win.

[Coach]

Thanks but I was wondering more along the lines on why they decided to do it that way.. Any knowledge on the basis(history) of the rule on why it came to be...

10.17 Winning And Losing Pitcher
(a) The official scorer shall credit as the winning pitcher that pitcher whose team assumes a lead while such pitcher is in the game, or during the inning on offense in which such pitcher is removed from the game, and does not relinquish such lead, unless
(1) such pitcher is a starting pitcher and Rule 10.17(b) applies; or
(2) Rule 10.17(c) applies.
Rule 10.17(a) Comment: Whenever the score is tied, the game becomes a new contest insofar as the winning pitcher is concerned. Once the opposing team assumes the lead, all pitchers who have pitched up to that point and have been replaced are excluded from being credited with the victory. If the pitcher against whose pitching the opposing team gained the lead continues to pitch until his team regains the lead, which it holds to the finish of the game, that pitcher shall be the winning pitcher.
(b) If the pitcher whose team assumes a lead while such pitcher is in the game, or during the inning on offense in which such pitcher is removed from the game, and does not relinquish such lead, is a starting pitcher who has not completed
(1) five innings of a game that lasts six or more innings on defense, or
(2) four innings of a game that lasts five innings on defense, then the official scorer shall credit as the winning pitcher the relief pitcher, if there is only one relief pitcher, or the relief pitcher who, in the official scorer’s judgment was the most effective, if there is more than one relief pitcher.
Rule 10.17(b) Comment: It is the intent of Rule 10.17(b) that a relief pitcher pitch at least one complete inning or pitch when a crucial out is made, within the context of the game (including the score), in order to be credited as the winning pitcher. If the first relief pitcher pitches effectively, the official scorer should not presumptively credit that pitcher with the win, because the rule requires that the win be credited to the pitcher who was the most effective, and a subsequent relief pitcher may have been most effective. The official scorer, in determining which relief pitcher was the most effective, should consider the number of runs, earned runs and base runners given up by each relief pitcher and the context of the game at the time of each relief pitcher’s appearance. If two or more relief pitchers were similarly effective, the official scorer should give the presumption to the earlier pitcher as the winning pitcher.
(c) The official scorer shall not credit as the winning pitcher a relief pitcher who is ineffective in a brief appearance, when at least one succeeding relief pitcher pitches effectively in helping his team maintain its lead. In such a case, the official scorer shall credit as the winning pitcher the succeeding relief pitcher who was most effective, in the judgment of the official scorer.
Rule 10.17(c) Comment: The official scorer generally should, but is not required to, consider the appearance of a relief pitcher to be ineffective and brief if such relief pitcher pitches less than one inning and allows two or more earned runs to score (even if such runs are charged to a previous pitcher). Rule 10.17(b) Comment provides guidance on choosing the winning pitcher from among several succeeding relief pitchers.
(d) A losing pitcher is a pitcher who is responsible for the run that gives the winning team a lead that the winning team does not relinquish.
Rule 10.17(d) Comment: Whenever the score is tied, the game becomes a new contest insofar as the losing pitcher is concerned.
(e) A league may designate a non-championship game (for example, the Major League All-Star Game) for which Rules 10.17(a)(1) and 10.17(b) do not apply. In such games, the official scorer shall credit as the winning pitcher that pitcher whose team assumes a lead while such pitcher is in the game, or during the inning on offense in which such pitcher is removed from the game, and does not relinquish such lead, unless such pitcher is knocked out after the winning team has attained a commanding lead and the official scorer concludes that a subsequent pitcher is entitled to credit as the winning pitcher.

http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/official_info/official_rules/official_scorer_10.jsp

[Coach]

And the White Sox/Indians is in the 10th inning, all tied up 5.

[alnorth]

My internet died, totals are updated.

Learned something new, I always thought if the starting pitcher with a lead fails to go 5, then the pitcher who is in the game when it becomes "official" (team with the lead finishes 5) becomes the pitcher of record. Apparently thats not the case, and a reliever who came in during inning 5, pitches a couple outs, and leaves without finishing the 5th inning could win.

[Coach]

And Cleveland wins in the 11th aganist the White Sox.

6-5 your final score.

[KcMizzou]

And Cleveland wins in the 11th aganist the White Sox.

6-5 your final score.Woot!

[SPchief]

Eric is gonna be pissed

[Coach]

Eric is gonna be pissed

I think this Eric stuff is getting a little bit old, thankyouverymuch.

[SPchief]

I think this Eric stuff is getting a little bit old, thankyouverymuch.


Did Eric tell you this?

[Hammock Parties]

Yeah Soria's a badass.

How did we luck into him?

the story on soria is that he was pitching in the san diego system in single A and we had a scout at one of his games that saw something in the kid and called moore right away. Another one of our scouts was watching him in the dominican winter ball league and saw him pitch a perfect game 2 days before we took him in the rule 5 draft.

Thats shows you exactly how important it is to have the best people in the scouting department, cause gems like soria, can and will happen. San Diego didnt realize what they had with the kid, for what reason, i dont know, but im thankful as a mother ****er they didnt know his true talents.

[KcMizzou]

the story on soria is that he was pitching in the san diego system in single A and we had a scout at one of his games that saw something in the kid and called moore right away. Another one of our scouts was watching him in the dominican winter ball league and saw him pitch a perfect game 2 days before we took him in the rule 5 draft.

Thats shows you exactly how important it is to have the best people in the scouting department, cause gems like soria, can and will happen. San Diego didnt realize what they had with the kid, for what reason, i dont know, but im thankful as a mother ****er they didnt know his true talents.That's pretty sweet.

[Coach]

If ESPN.com is correct, the Royals are 1.5 behind the White Sox for 4th.

[Hammock Parties]

If ESPN.com is correct, the Royals are 1.5 behind the White Sox for 4th.

yah, they have 1 more win than us and 2 less losses so the 1 more win is equal to 1 ahead and the 2 losses is equal to .5 cause they've played a game more than us i think.

[alnorth]

yah, they have 1 more win than us and 2 less losses so the 1 more win is equal to 1 ahead and the 2 losses is equal to .5 cause they've played a game more than us i think.

Nah its simpler than that.

Games ahead of X = ((# of wins more than X) + (# of losses less than X)) / 2