Barry breaks the record!

[VonneMarie]

And I saw it live!

[Demonpenz]

congrats barry

[wutamess]

And I saw it live!

I'm tivoing live history.

[VonneMarie]

Go Barry! PBJ PBJ PBJ

[pr_capone]

756*

[Demonpenz]

man I would keep that helmet on i was worried about a sniper!

[VonneMarie]

That guy is gonna be so rich...

[Demonpenz]

Not dry eye in the house

[Braincase]

756*

Nah, the asterisk belongs to Maris. I'd give Barry a different symbol off my keyboard...

756?

[Ebolapox]

Feh. let's go A-rod!

[SPchief]

Isn't there a baseball game supposed to be going on?

[Ultra Peanut]

Wow, Hammerin' Hank is good at coming up with spontaneous speeches!

[Demonpenz]

oh wow aaron gave a message to barry class by all!

[pr_capone]

man I would keep that helmet on i was worried about a sniper!

I bet they PAID Hank Aaron to appear on this vid.

[88TG88]

*

[Ebolapox]

Nah, the asterisk belongs to Maris. I'd give Barry a different symbol off my keyboard...

756?

that's rep.

[VonneMarie]

Screw the game... LOL!

[SPchief]

I bet they PAID Hank Aaron to appear on this vid.


That's the safe bet.

[pr_capone]

Nah, the asterisk belongs to Maris. I'd give Barry a different symbol off my keyboard...

756?

LMFAO

[Sam Hall]

don't stop the game for this

[Ultra Peanut]

When did ESPN buy the rights to the Oscars?

[OnTheWarpath15]

Hank Aaron showed more class in the video than Barry showed in his entire career.

Enjoy it scumbag. You'll have it for about 6-7 more years at best.

[Ultra Peanut]

YOU LIKE ME! YOU REALLY LIKE ME!

[alnorth]

*

[VonneMarie]

Show some class, Barry.

[88TG88]

hahah the dogpile for the ball

[tk13]

Haha, those people were diving on top of the pile to get that ball, that had to hurt.

[Ultra Peanut]

This just in: Barry Bonds has been designated for assignment to the Fresno Grizzlies (AAA).

[Pierce]

Classy pitcher.

[007]

ugh DAMNIT

[SPchief]

Shouldn't the pitcher have gotten time to warm up after all of that?

[Pierce]

Well now I have no reason to watch this game.

[Ultra Peanut]

Classy pitcher.Please tell me he beaned the next hitter.

[pr_capone]

Thank goodness that this is finally over. The Barry ball gobbling can end until he retires now.

Now hopefully the Nationals win the game and Barry never again even sniffs the playoffs... much less the WS.

[VonneMarie]

That fan got pummeled. :eek:

[SPchief]

That fan got pummeled. :eek:


I don't think he cares with all of the money he is gonna get.

[Jenson71]

Should have been a bigger ceremony. Where was George Bush?

[the Talking Can]

what a shame

[pr_capone]

Jeez.... get the camera people off the friggin field so the game can continue!

[SPchief]

Was Selig there?

[Buns]

I just missed it live. Did some dude try to rush the field? I caught some white dude in a blue hat being held up by security.

[BWillie]

So how much do you think that ball is gonna be worth? I say about 6 mil give or take a mil.

[SPchief]

I just missed it live. Did some dude try to rush the field? I caught some white dude in a blue hat being held up by security.


No that was the guy who got the ball

[BWillie]

I just missed it live. Did some dude try to rush the field? I caught some white dude in a blue hat being held up by security.

No I think that was the guy that caught the ball. I think the cops escorted him out. I wouldn't want to be by a bunch of people with millions of dollars in my hands.

[VonneMarie]

I don't think he cares with all of the money he is gonna get.
I wouldn't give a shit neither.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Was Selig there?

Nope.


:D

[Dr. Johnny Fever]

And I saw it live!
Damn I missed it. Very cool for you. Were you there?

[tk13]

I just missed it live. Did some dude try to rush the field? I caught some white dude in a blue hat being held up by security.
That was the guy who caught the ball.

[Jenson71]

I just missed it live. Did some dude try to rush the field? I caught some white dude in a blue hat being held up by security.

He caught the ball. He gets to watch the rest of the game in a press box and will be driven home in a limo afterwards.

[Buns]

I wouldn't be surprised if that dude has a concussion after that dogpile

[kcxiv]

Damn I missed it. Very cool for you. Were you there?
I seen it live too, i was warming up a tortilla and i came in the room and bam he hit it. lol It was just meant for me to watch it. lol

[VonneMarie]

Damn I missed it. Very cool for you. Were you there?
I wish, just on ESPN... I missed 755 tho.

[SPchief]

LMAO he was wearing a Mets shirt.

[Dunit35]

Steriods, be proud Barry be proud.

Now the courts need to get it done and get him for perjury

[TEX]

And I saw it live!

BFD. Berry breaks the *record...

I'm going to avoid watching any sports for a few days so I won't have to see it.

[Demonpenz]

I missed mcgwire i turned to watch something else for a split second and i missed it. I was there in hd with the speakers up for that one

[Ultra Peanut]

I love the now-rich guy's reaction to the whole situation. He's being carried off by security and high-fiving everyone within reach.

[Frazod]

LMAO he was wearing a Mets shirt.

I hope he auctions the f#cking thing off on ebay.

[RJ]

BFD. Berry breaks the *record...

I'm going to avoid watching any sports for a few days so I won't have to see it.


Same here. I don't watch much TV anyway, I can live without for a few days.

[kcxiv]

I missed mcgwire i turned to watch something else for a split second and i missed it. I was there in hd with the speakers up for that one
:( It was blocked out of HD where i live. I had to watch it on Fox sports Bay Area.

[Pierce]

http://sports.yahoo.com

:) HAHA

[the Talking Can]

he hugged him mom like she was a stranger...and the patted her on the shoulder...weird

[HolmeZz]

LMAO he was wearing a Mets shirt.

Damn ****ing straight.

[VonneMarie]

Awww, Barry crying...

[kcxiv]

I love the now-rich guy's reaction to the whole situation. He's being carried off by security and high-fiving everyone within reach.
He just hit the lottery. Except his chances were much much better. There is what 6k out in the bleachers there?

[BWillie]

I love the now-rich guy's reaction to the whole situation. He's being carried off by security and high-fiving everyone within reach.

Yeah that guy was crying with joy he was so happy. The guy is filthy rich now. I bet he can make 500K just for interviews and the publicity around it for the next few months.

[SPchief]

http://sports.yahoo.com

:) HAHA


LMAO

[VonneMarie]

http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/sp/tools/med/2007/07/ipt/1185581881.jpg

LMAO

[Adept Havelock]

Hank Aaron showed more class in the video than Barry showed in his entire career.

Exactly.

Congrats, Hank. You earned it the hard way, in an era without the benefit of steroids, juiced baseballs, and diluted talent. Even when your family had to go into hiding because of death threats, you never stooped to playing the race or victim card.

How utterly refreshing.

Thank you, Mr. Henry Aaron.

.

[DJJasonp]

You know....it's poetic they pulled him from the game. The ultimate "me first" non-team player gets pulled from the game after he breaks the record.

Would George Brett or Tony Gwynn agree to be pulled from a 5-4 game? I seriously doubt it. Those guys were true competitors who's #1 goal was to win games....not stats.

Since your ultimate selfish goals are now over...just retire so we dont have to hear anymore about you.

If I recall...Bruce Smith pulled the same shit the last 2 seasons of his career.....and yet DT is still not in the HOF.

Sad

Sorry folks...the booze brought out the Dennis Miller-like rant in me tonight.... :)

[HolmeZz]

You know....it's poetic they pulled him from the game. The ultimate "me first" non-team player gets pulled from the game after he breaks the record.

Would George Brett or Tony Gwynn agree to be pulled from a 5-4 game? I seriously doubt it. Those guys were true competitors who's #1 goal was to win games....

Bochy pulled him. You can get on Barry for a lot, but not for that. It's not like the Giants are playing for a playoff spot.

[kcxiv]

You know....it's poetic they pulled him from the game. The ultimate "me first" non-team player gets pulled from the game after he breaks the record.

Would George Brett or Tony Gwynn agree to be pulled from a 5-4 game? I seriously doubt it. Those guys were true competitors who's #1 goal was to win games....not stats.

Since your ultimate selfish goals are now over...just retire so we dont have to hear anymore about you.

If I recall...Bruce Smith pulled the same shit the last 2 seasons of his career.....and yet DT is still not in the HOF.

Sad

Sorry folks...the booze brought out the Dennis Miller-like rant in me tonight.... :)Bruce had a way better career then DT did. DT's was cut short. Bruce also went to 4 superbowls. He's not a me me me me guy.

Brett and Gwynn might have if they were playing at 42 years old.


I dont know why people say Barry is a douche, or why they even hate him. Just becuase he hates the media? Please dont say its the steriods deal, he was hated before that was even around.

[DJJasonp]

Bochy pulled him. You can get on Barry for a lot, but not for that.

C'mon...you know Bochy had to ask him....you dont make that move without finding out how Barry thought about it.

[VonneMarie]

Fix your station, ESPN!

[DJJasonp]

Bruce had a way better career then DT did. DT's was cut short. Bruce also went to 4 superbowls. He's not a me me me me guy.

Brett and Gwynn might have if they were playing at 42 years old.

If you look at the stats - Sacks per game...forced turnovers, etc...DT has better stats.

Bruce played a ton more games than DT so the numbers are skewed.

[Reerun_KC]

Just imagine how many Homers Barry would of had if there wasnt so many chickenshit managers in the Majors..

Seriously the guy has been walked 2500+ times and 679 were intentional....

Good Gawd! that is pathetic....

[Frazod]

C'mon...you know Bochy had to ask him....you dont make that move without finding out how Barry thought about it.

He probably just wanted the useless turd out of the line-up now that all the hoopla's over.

[Demonpenz]

You know....it's poetic they pulled him from the game. The ultimate "me first" non-team player gets pulled from the game after he breaks the record.

Would George Brett or Tony Gwynn agree to be pulled from a 5-4 game? I seriously doubt it. Those guys were true competitors who's #1 goal was to win games....not stats.

Since your ultimate selfish goals are now over...just retire so we dont have to hear anymore about you.

If I recall...Bruce Smith pulled the same shit the last 2 seasons of his career.....and yet DT is still not in the HOF.

Sad

Sorry folks...the booze brought out the Dennis Miller-like rant in me tonight.... :)


Brett's final at bat the catcher and pitcher told brett they were going to throw all fastballs.

[HolmeZz]

C'mon...you know Bochy had to ask him....you dont make that move without finding out how Barry thought about it.

They showed Bochy going up to Barry and telling him he was coming out. Barry didn't look like he wanted to.

[kcxiv]

If you look at the stats - Sacks per game...forced turnovers, etc...DT has better stats.

Bruce played a ton more games than DT so the numbers are skewed.


He still had a better overall career. He had season stats, He had post season success. He may not have won it all, but he played alot deep in the play offs. What about DT? 1 and done?

I am a Chiefs fan, but i am not a homer.

[ClevelandBronco]

And I saw it live!

I'm sure you think so, but you didn't.

[DJJasonp]

Brett's final at bat the catcher and pitcher told brett they were going to throw all fastballs.

That's respect for a HOF'er :)

You notice...not a whole lot of Nationals were going out of their way to congratulate Barry.

[kcxiv]

Just imagine how many Homers Barry would of had if there wasnt so many chickenshit managers in the Majors..

Seriously the guy has been walked 2500+ times and 679 were intentional....

Good Gawd! that is pathetic....
Easily 50 more.

[kcxiv]

That's respect for a HOF'er :)

You notice...not a whole lot of Nationals were going out of their way to congratulate Barry.
I dont know why they would. I didnt see alot when Hank broke it. I seen a fan, then his team mates.

[leviw]

Stupid. Stupid. Stupid.

Why would anyone pay a dime for that ball. 756 is not going to be the record more than a night or two.

[Pierce]

http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/8387/dnasped7.jpg

[DJJasonp]

I dont know why they would. I didnt see alot when Hank broke it. I seen a fan, then his team mates.


I guess I'm comparing it to when McGwire broke the season record.

[Demonpenz]

I guess I'm comparing it to when McGwire broke the season record.


I remember some of his teamates squeezing his steriod acne

[VonneMarie]

http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/8387/dnasped7.jpg
LMAO - That's pretty good work.

[Frazod]

Stupid. Stupid. Stupid.

Why would anyone pay a dime for that ball. 756 is not going to be the record more than a night or two.

The one that broke the record will be the big one, dude. Tonight's ball will fetch more than whatever the last one is.

Of course, perhaps this is the last one. I wouldn't put it past him to quit now. And that wouldn't bother me one goddamn bit, either.

[DJJasonp]

I remember some of his teamates squeezing his steriod acne

nice one! :clap:

[Hootie]

I shed a tear...what a nice celebration, nice of Hank...about lost it when Barry thanked his Dad...

That was awesome. I enjoy the fact I can tell my grandkids I saw one of the greatest players of all time during his prime, and saw him break Hammerin' Hanks homerun record live.

[leviw]

Oh, and this makes it even better.

Remember when McGwire hit 62, and as he rounded the bases, every Cubs infielder shook his hand. Everyone of them.

How many Nationals shook Barry's?

[Hootie]

Oh, and this makes it even better.

Remember when McGwire hit 62, and as he rounded the bases, every Cubs infielder shook his hand. Everyone of them.

How many Nationals shook Barry's?
McGwire was a cheater...too

[Demonpenz]

I shed a tear...what a nice celebration, nice of Hank...about lost it when Barry thanked his Dad...

That was awesome. I enjoy the fact I can tell my grandkids I saw one of the greatest players of all time during his prime, and saw him break Hammerin' Hanks homerun record live.


My phone hasn't stopped ringing. Congrats #1

[leviw]

McGwire was a cheater...too

At the time, the his peers respected him.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Oh, and this makes it even better.

Remember when McGwire hit 62, and as he rounded the bases, every Cubs infielder shook his hand. Everyone of them.

How many Nationals shook Barry's?

None.

Hell, Barry ignored his own ****ing son. The kid is just begging to be hugged, and Barry turns to his teammates.......

[leviw]

I shed a tear...what a nice celebration, nice of Hank...about lost it when Barry thanked his Dad...

That was awesome. I enjoy the fact I can tell my grandkids I saw one of the greatest players of all time during his prime, and saw him break Hammerin' Hanks homerun record live.

"I rooted for a cheater!"

[Jenson71]

I shed a tear...what a nice celebration, nice of Hank...about lost it when Barry thanked his Dad...

That was awesome. I enjoy the fact I can tell my grandkids I saw one of the greatest players of all time during his prime, and saw him break Hammerin' Hanks homerun record live.

"Granddad, how come you admire a man who used steriods to help his career?"

"Well kids, because integrity, dignity, and respect for the game weren't as cool to me as stats and highlights."

"Oh. I think I like my other grandpa better."

[pr_capone]

"Granddad, how come you admire a man who used steriods to help his career?"

"Well kids, because integrity, dignity, and respect for the game weren't as cool to me as stats and highlights."

"Oh. I think I like my other grandpa better."
:eek:

LMFAO

That is HARSH

[VonneMarie]

None.

Hell, Barry ignored his own ****ing son. The kid is just begging to be hugged, and Barry turns to his teammates.......
I saw that and thought it was a pretty crappy thing to do. Did you see the way he hugged his own mother? It was as if he didn't want to do it.

[TEX]

I shed a tear...what a nice celebration, nice of Hank...about lost it when Barry thanked his Dad...

That was awesome. I enjoy the fact I can tell my grandkids I saw one of the greatest players of all time during his prime, and saw him break Hammerin' Hanks homerun record live.

That's beautiful. Now go rub some "cream" on Barry's a$$ so he can grow big and strong and hit more...

[Demonpenz]

Emitt smith wasn't always loved for breaking the rushing record but i think now he is loved by all

[OnTheWarpath15]

I saw that and thought it was a pretty crappy thing to do. Did you see the way he hugged his own mother? It was as if he didn't want to do it.

Yeah, I saw it.

He treated her like a stranger.....

What a jerkoff....

[alnorth]

When A-Rod smashes Barry's record in about 7 years or so, I'll recognize him as the true home run king of all time, Yankee or not. Assuming of course he isnt revealed to be every bit the cheating fraud as Bonds by then.

[Hootie]

Haters.

Doesn't affect me...

Barry is a GREAT baseball player, perhaps the best ever.

I appreciate it.

[OnTheWarpath15]

"Granddad, how come you admire a man who used steriods to help his career?"

"Well kids, because integrity, dignity, and respect for the game weren't as cool to me as stats and highlights."

"Oh. I think I like my other grandpa better."



:clap: :clap: :clap:

[leviw]

Emitt smith wasn't always loved for breaking the rushing record but i think now he is loved by all

Still today, apples do not compare to oranges.

[Mojo Rising]

Bochy pulled him. You can get on Barry for a lot, but not for that. It's not like the Giants are playing for a playoff spot.

I am sure Bochy also kicks him out of the dug out and sends him to the club house during every game that Barry is pulled by Bochy in the 7th and 8th inning.

Too bad for Barry because he is such a team player that I am sure he cares how the game ends up. If it were up to him he'd be on the rail watching every pitch.

[VonneMarie]

Yeah, I saw it.

He treated her like a stranger.....

What a jerkoff....
I definently didn't like that but I still like Barry.

[leviw]

Haters.

Doesn't affect me...

Barry is a GREAT baseball player, perhaps the best ever.

I appreciate it.

He was GREAT before jealously overtook him and he filled himself with needles, creams and clears, too.

[leviw]

"Bonds said if he caught the ball, he would sell it." - Erin Andrews

Further evidence that he has no respect for the game.

[OnTheWarpath15]

I definently didn't like that but I still like Barry.

Read the book "Love Me, Hate Me: Barry Bonds and the making of an anti-hero"

Then tell me after reading over 500 accounts of his actions from "friends" teammates, family, etc if you still feel the same way......

[VonneMarie]

That freaking fan that caught the ball bought last minute tickets. He and his friend were on their way to Austraila.

[Eleazar]

What if Barry Bonds was completely clean, with no connection to steroids, a la Ken Griffey Jr.? Would Bonds still get booed wherever he went outside of San Francisco? Would fans bring signs that showed their anger, even their hatred, to every game? Would his 756th home run be celebrated on several levels above what is happening now?

It probably would. The booing, fury, and contempt seem to be more about Bonds' link to steroids than about race, the breaking of the game's most cherished record, or (at times) his insolent personality. It is, it seems, mostly about cheating to get ahead, or in his case, cheating to get to the top of the highest list in baseball history.

It is true that if Bonds were clean, but still a disagreeable or disrespectful guy, a lot of people still would have preferred that he hadn't broken Aaron's record. Rickey Henderson wasn't exactly embraced when he broke Lou Brock's record for career stolen bases, then held the third base bag above his head and exclaimed, "Today, I am the greatest."

It is true that there are, and always will be, racists. It is true that baseball records mean more than in other sports, and baseball protects its records more than any sport. When Aaron broke Babe Ruth's record, it wasn't just the racists who objected. Some purists also felt Aaron didn't deserve it because he reached 715 home runs in nearly 3,000 more at-bats than Ruth.

But this is mostly about steroids. Look at what happened to Mark McGwire. He was the king of the world in 1998 when he hit 70 home runs. Then he was tied to steroids -- even without solid evidence, such as flunking a drug test -- and then he testified before Congress. Where is he now? Granted, he was the prime candidate to walk away from baseball and never come back even if he were completely clean, but his connection to steroids, and his pitiful performance before Congress, has made him a pariah.

McGwire received 23 percent of the vote in his first year eligible for the Hall of Fame. And please, don't tell us that he didn't have the numbers. No one who makes 12 All-Star teams and has a slugging percentage nearly 100 points higher than Reggie Jackson gets only 23 percent of the vote unless the voters decided he had achieved his 583 homers unfairly, and cheated the game.

Look at what has happened to Rafael Palmeiro. The minute it was announced he had tested positive, he went directly into baseball exile, never to return. He is one of four players in history with 500 home runs and 3,000 hits, but he never played another game after testing positive. Granted, he was 40 at the time, and no longer a productive hitter, but he became an outcast because he lied. He pointed his finger at the TV cameras that day before Congress, and said he had never done steroids. And then he tested positive. In his first year eligible for the Hall of Fame, he'll be lucky to get 23 percent of the vote.

Look at what has happened to Sammy Sosa. He is having a remarkable comeback season. He took a year away from the world's hardest game, came back at age 38, and had 63 RBIs at the All-Star break. But he has gone unnoticed in many places.

He hit his 600th home run to less adulation and attention than any 600th home run in history. Why? Is it because he was suspended for corking his bat several years ago? Is it because he was exposed at the end of his career with the Cubs for perhaps not being a great teammate? Maybe. But mostly, the lack of interest in Sosa is his link to steroids -- even without solid proof.

If Bonds were completely clean, commissioner Bud Selig would have followed his every move enthusiastically instead of keeping him somewhat at arm's length. If Bonds were clean, people wouldn't bring hateful signs to Giants road games, or boo his every at-bat. If Bonds were clean, maybe he would feel more loved and respected, and therefore would show a little more warmth.

If Bonds were clean, this record -- the greatest in all of sports -- would have been more fun for baseball, for him, for everyone.

Tim Kurkjian is a senior writer for ESPN The Magazine.

[RealSNR]

Is there going to be a thread like this everytime he cracks another one?

[Hootie]

"Bonds said if he caught the ball, he would sell it." - Erin Andrews

Further evidence that he has no respect for the game.
????

Now you're just trying to nitpick...

What, is he supposed to turn down 7 million dollars because "the hall of fame deserves the ball"?

Haha. Christ.

[Mojo Rising]

:( It was blocked out of HD where i live. I had to watch it on Fox sports Bay Area.

Out here in Tracy on Directv it was on HD on channell 96. It seems like on 96-98 many games are also shown in HD on Directv that FoxsportsBA, Channell 36 (A's) and the Sharks when they were playing.

I was looking for the HOF game on these channels because of the way NFLN was bregging about the game being in HD but it was not. So even though they said 30 some of 50 some games would be in HD. I don't thing they will be on Directv.

[Logical]

None.

Hell, Barry ignored his own ****ing son. The kid is just begging to be hugged, and Barry turns to his teammates.......Look, you don't like Barry we get it. I still celebrate with him as the most talented power hitter of our time. Arod will eventually break his record so I will let history take care of itself.

[leviw]

If Bonds were clean, this record -- the greatest in all of sports -- would have been more fun for baseball, for him, for everyone.

Amen, Mr. Kurkjian

[VonneMarie]

????

Now you're just trying to nitpick...

What, is he supposed to turn down 7 million dollars because "the hall of fame deserves the ball"?

Haha. Christ.
Well if you already have 100 trillion dollars, why not?

[kcxiv]

"Bonds said if he caught the ball, he would sell it." - Erin Andrews

Further evidence that he has no respect for the game.Why wouldnt he? thats like winning the lottery. Bonds is only saying what any human would do.

[BWillie]

"Bonds said if he caught the ball, he would sell it." - Erin Andrews

Further evidence that he has no respect for the game.

Oh come on, you honestly would not sell that ball if you caught it? That is like having a 7 million dollar check and sayin' naw...I'm just gonna sit here and look at it. Keep slaving away at my job 50 hours a week, my that is a good looking check, but I sure won't cash it.

[Hootie]

Well if you already have 100 trillion dollars, why not?
why is barry going to do baseball any favors?!

The friggin' commish wasn't even on hand for the game today...

It's ridiculous.

[kcxiv]

Well if you already have 100 trillion dollars, why not?
I am sure BOnds was talking as if he was a fan, not a player thats made millions.

[leviw]

????

Now you're just trying to nitpick...

What, is he supposed to turn down 7 million dollars because "the hall of fame deserves the ball"?

Haha. Christ.

Barry Bonds?

Hell yes. He should pay whoever caught it $X million just to get it back and send it right to Cooperstown.

He owes the game so much more than the game owes him.

[HolmeZz]

Yahoo took the asterisk down.

[Hootie]

Barry Bonds?

Hell yes. He should pay whoever caught it $X million just to get it back and send it right to Cooperstown.

He owes the game so much more than the game owes him.
:LOL: :LOL: :LOL: :LOL: LMAO LMAO LMAO LMAO LMAO

[VonneMarie]

I am sure BOnds was talking as if he was a fan, not a player thats made millions.
Yeah, I miss read it...

[leviw]

Oh come on, you honestly would not sell that ball if you caught it? That is like having a 7 million dollar check and sayin' naw...I'm just gonna sit here and look at it. Keep slaving away at my job 50 hours a week, my that is a good looking check, but I sure won't cash it.

Get over yourself.

Barry Bonds, who is set for several lifes over, said it. Not me.

[kcxiv]

Yeah, I miss read it...
I know i would. Hell, just for catching a baseball, i do not have to worry about anything financially for the rest of my life. Well, if i didnt just blow it. lol

[Mojo Rising]

Read the book "Love Me, Hate Me: Barry Bonds and the making of an anti-hero"

Then tell me after reading over 500 accounts of his actions from "friends" teammates, family, etc if you still feel the same way......

I didn't read the book but listened to the hour long interview he did with Rome. That is a must read for all people who have no idea what a jerk he is. I consistently meet people in SF who have been dissed by or even cussed at by Bonds.

And why race is being brought into the subject. BB is the biggest racist there is.

[ClevelandBronco]

...The friggin' commish wasn't even on hand for the game today...

Good on him. I don't even know why people bought tickets.

[kcxiv]

Get over yourself.

Barry Bonds, who is set for several lifes over, said it. Not me.
Again, he said it as if he was a fan not a multimillionaire.

[alnorth]

The friggin' commish wasn't even on hand for the game today...

Some would say that is one of the few good decisions he has made lately. Though, I liked the "all-star game deciding homefield advantage" thing, but thats just me.

[kcxiv]

Good on him. I don't even know why people bought tickets.
Because they are Giant fans. I betting that the guy that caught the ball is damn glad he bought that ticket. lol

[leviw]

Again, he said it as if he was a fan not a multimillionaire.

How do you know how he said it?

[VonneMarie]

I know i would. Hell, just for catching a baseball, i do not have to worry about anything financially for the rest of my life. Well, if i didnt just blow it. lol
I'd definently sell it too. That's like winning the lottery...

[Mojo Rising]

Some would say that is one of the few good decisions he has made lately. Though, I liked the "all-star game deciding homefield advantage" thing, but thats just me.

Do you work for Fox? As far as I know they are the only ones who likes that rule.

[alnorth]

How do you know how he said it?

Given the physics involved in catching one's own home run ball, I think its pretty obvious.

There's plenty of perfectly good reasons to not like Barry, but this isnt one of them, I'd sell the ball too.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Look, you don't like Barry we get it. I still celebrate with him as the most talented power hitter of our time. Arod will eventually break his record so I will let history take care of itself.

The funny thing is:

He was my FAVORITE player as a kid.

But as I grew older, and heard the way he treated teammates, fans, etc.....I started to distance myself from rooting for him.

When he went to SF, outgrew his hats and put on 35 pounds in one offseason, I quit completely.

Guys like him, McGwire, Caminiti, Canseco have ruined the game for me.

It could have been something special. Instead, it's tainted and an embarrassment to the game. The man who holds the record now has zero integrity. And to basically steal the record from arguably the absolute classiest man to ever step foot on a MLB diamond.......

[kcxiv]

How do you know how he said it?
Because i can interpret how someone says it. Thats how it came off to me. If you chose the negative one then by all means do it. I already see your a bonds hater anyways.

[alnorth]

Do you work for Fox? As far as I know they are the only ones who likes that rule.

Without that rule, I honestly dont give a s*** about the all-star game. I dont watch the pro bowl, and probably wouldnt watch the nba or nhl all-star game if I followed those leagues, but the mlb midsummer classic is pretty compelling now. Those who whine loudly about this rule every year (as if alternating each year somehow made more sense) probably didnt like the all-star game to begin with.

[OnTheWarpath15]

I didn't read the book but listened to the hour long interview he did with Rome. That is a must read for all people who have no idea what a jerk he is. I consistently meet people in SF who have been dissed by or even cussed at by Bonds.

And why race is being brought into the subject. BB is the biggest racist there is.

The apple didn't fall far from the tree.....

[Saulbadguy]

Congratulations, Barry.

[leviw]

Because i can interpret how someone says it. Thats how it came off to me. If you chose the negative one then by all means do it. I already see your a bonds hater anyways.

You didn't hear him say it. Erin Andrews quoted him.

I'm saying Barry has no way of knowing what it would be like to catch a ball with so much worth, knowing that it would change his life forever.

Instead of saying what he would do as a fan, he should say what he would do as a player if he had the opportunity to get the ball back: "I'd give it back. The game I've grown up around; that has let me live a wonderful life; that gave praise and fame to my father and god-father; and that, most importantly, has let me continue to play despite my sins deserves it more than I do."

[Mojo Rising]

Why not the team with the best record? Otherwise you have a bunch of players who have no skin in the game deciding who goes to the WS.

It was bad enough that Bonds received 1/3 of his votes on the last day. He was playing in the game that determined who gets homefield advantage. The team he is on has no chance for the WS. How much does he care who wins?

Soriano proved to be the more deserving player by his performance and the Cubs are in it again. He cared.

It is just a marketing ploy by Fox. The team with the better record should get home field advantage.

[Demonpenz]

congrats

[kcxiv]

You didn't hear him say it. Erin Andrews quoted him.

I'm saying Barry has no way of knowing what it would be like to catch a ball with so much worth, knowing that it would change his life forever.

Instead of saying what he would do as a fan, he should say what he would do as a player if he had the opportunity to get the ball back: "I'd give it back. The game I've grown up around; that has let me live a wonderful life; that gave praise and fame to my father and god-father; and that, most importantly, has let me continue to play despite my sins deserves it more than I do."
I mean, seriously, its only obvious man. FIrst off, what would he be doing in the bleachers? he's a millionaire. he's going to get better seats. Again, its easy to put 2 and 2 together. I dont actually think he would sell it. He said he is going to be there when A-Rod breaks his record. I am willing to bet if he did catch it, he would give the ball to A-Rod.

[Eleazar]

I never used to miss the all-star game when I was little. I sat there and waited until the Royal got put in the game, or hoped that Bo Jackson would hit a home run for the AL or something.

I think it speaks to the attitude of a lot of the players today. The all-star game used to mean something just in and of itself. Guys wanted to win the game just because it was the all-star game. You didn't need to make it 'count'. It already counted.

Now you sit there and watch it played like any other baseball game, where some players don't even get in. I mean, when was the last time our guy even got into the game? They invited Gil Meche this year but didn't even put him in. They invited Redman last year but he didn't get to pitch either.

With the guys who don't get into the game now, you automatically alienate a bunch of fans right off the bat. If I wanted to see a bunch of Yankees and Red Sox playing baseball I could just turn on ESPN 7 days a week. Plus you had the debacle a few years ago where they didn't even finish the game.

It's just not as cool as it used to be.

[leviw]

I mean, seriously, its only obvious man. FIrst off, what would he be doing in the bleachers? he's a millionaire. he's going to get better seats. Again, its easy to put 2 and 2 together. I dont actually think he would sell it. He said he is going to be there when A-Rod breaks his record. I am willing to bet if he did catch it, he would give the ball to A-Rod.

It is obvious and implied. I'm just saying you can't take a cheater at his word, and he shouldn't have said anything about something he wouldn't possibly know anything about.

[Demonpenz]

It still is wierd to think bo played baseball and football at high levels No way someone seriously makes run at now. No one wants to get hurt.

[Eleazar]

It still is wierd to think bo played baseball and football at high levels No way someone seriously makes run at now. No one wants to get hurt.

Yeah, if I could play both at an all-star level I would still probably just be playing baseball. Smarter career move.

[OnTheWarpath15]

I never used to miss the all-star game when I was little. I sat there and waited until the Royal got put in the game, or hoped that Bo Jackson would hit a home run for the AL or something.

I think it speaks to the attitude of a lot of the players today. The all-star game used to mean something just in and of itself. Guys wanted to win the game just because it was the all-star game. You didn't need to make it 'count'. It already counted.

Now you sit there and watch it played like any other baseball game, where some players don't even get in. I mean, when was the last time our guy even got into the game? They invited Gil Meche this year but didn't even put him in. They invited Redman last year but he didn't get to pitch either.

With the guys who don't get into the game now, you automatically alienate a bunch of fans right off the bat. If I wanted to see a bunch of Yankees and Red Sox playing baseball I could just turn on ESPN 7 days a week. Plus you had the debacle a few years ago where they didn't even finish the game.

It's just not as cool as it used to be.

Exactly.

Pete Rose plowing over Ray Fosse? Think he wasn't playing to win?

Guys could give a shit now.

[alnorth]

I never used to miss the all-star game when I was little. I sat there and waited until the Royal got put in the game, or hoped that Bo Jackson would hit a home run for the AL or something.

I think it speaks to the attitude of a lot of the players today. The all-star game used to mean something just in and of itself. Guys wanted to win the game just because it was the all-star game. You didn't need to make it 'count'. It already counted.

Now you sit there and watch it played like any other baseball game, where some players don't even get in. I mean, when was the last time our guy even got into the game? They invited Gil Meche this year but didn't even put him in. They invited Redman last year but he didn't get to pitch either.

With the guys who don't get into the game now, you automatically alienate a bunch of fans right off the bat. If I wanted to see a bunch of Yankees and Red Sox playing baseball I could just turn on ESPN 7 days a week. Plus you had the debacle a few years ago where they didn't even finish the game.

It's just not as cool as it used to be.

"Back in the day" when players played to win, not every guy got in the game. If that makes some people upset, then tough. Thats as it should be, this isnt little league where everyone must share and be given an at-bat. If we are going to play the game, then lets really play the game, and recognize that some of the players arent good enough to be guaranteed to play.

As for that debacle, that came about exactly because they tried to play everyone. If we do it your way, we'll get another extra-innings tie. By holding a few pitchers back, your pretty close to guaranteed that the game will finish.

[Demonpenz]

could you imagine if Dennis matthews was doing the game?

Dennis: And that was the 4th time I got lost in north dakota.

Swing fly ball to center field... Farily deep *crownd going crazy*... Gone barry bonds.......*Crowd going crazy* Long pause.
"A no doubter for 756" ......

"Well it turned out I was in south dakota!"

Ryan L: Yeah they will do that go MINNISOTA!

[leviw]

could you imagine if Dennis matthews was doing the game?

Dennis: And that was the 4th time I got lost in north dakota.

Swing fly ball to center field... Farily deep *crownd going crazy*... Gone barry bonds.......*Crowd going crazy* Long pause.
"A no doubter for 756" ......

"Well it turned out I was in south dakota!"

Ryan L: Yeah they will do that go MINNISOTA!

Dennis?

[alnorth]

It is obvious and implied. I'm just saying you can't take a cheater at his word, and he shouldn't have said anything about something he wouldn't possibly know anything about.

You are taking this way too seriously. You cant reasonably misunderstand what he meant, and I pretty much agree with what he said on this point. There's plenty of other good reasons to not like Barry.

[Logical]

C'mon...you know Bochy had to ask him....you dont make that move without finding out how Barry thought about it.

Yes it is not like Barry would not have been a major distraction if he had been on the field.:eek:

[leviw]

You are taking this way too seriously. You cant reasonably misunderstand what he meant, and I pretty much agree with what he said on this point. There's plenty of other good reasons to not like Barry.

It's obvious. I said that.

He shouldn't have said it.

[Demonpenz]

Dennis?


royals broadcaster?

[leviw]

royals broadcaster?

Denny?

[alnorth]

royals broadcaster?

Denny got fired?

[Demonpenz]

Denny?

Same guy denny obvouisly the nickname for dennis

[leviw]

Same guy denny obvouisly the nickname for dennis

Probably, except Denny is his real name.

[Demonpenz]

Probably, except Denny is his real name.


When I was growing up he went by dennis.

Radio: KMBZ-AM 980 and KMBR-FM 99.7 (Buddy Blattner and Dennis Matthews)

[leviw]

When I was growing up he went by dennis.

Radio: KMBZ-AM 980 and KMBR-FM 99.7 (Buddy Blattner and Dennis Matthews)

I stand corrected then. Wonder why he's never been referred by that since the then?

[Eleazar]

"Back in the day" when players played to win, not every guy got in the game...

If that wasn't a rule, doesn't it seem as though they usually did?

They let Ken Harvey in to get embarrassed by Randy Johnson just a couple of years ago.

[Mojo Rising]

"Bonds said if he caught the ball, he would sell it." - Erin Andrews

Further evidence that he has no respect for the game.

If it was the interview from last week he said if he was a fan and caught it he would sell it. The question was based around his expectations of what a fan who caught the ball should do.

I don't think the ball will fetch more than a million. 7 m seems like an unreasonably high number.

[alnorth]

If that wasn't a rule, doesn't it seem as though they usually did?

They let Ken Harvey in to get embarrassed by Randy Johnson just a couple of years ago.

That wasnt "back in the day". I'm talking about when people constantly talk about Pete Rose all the time. Back then, a lot fewer players played than even today.

[leviw]

If you watched the the tribute for him I think Ryan, frank white, and fred white called him dennis.

Nope.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=0M9gLuL2zgE

[Eleazar]

That wasnt "back in the day". I'm talking about when people constantly talk about Pete Rose all the time. Back then, a lot fewer players played than even today.

There were fewer teams back then, too. I bet it was a much more rare occurence for a city's only representative to not get into the game.

I'm just saying, I love baseball, I would bet 90% of the games during a particular season I'm either watching or listening to at least part of the broadcast. But the all star game interests me zero anymore, because it seems basically like a clique affair that my guys aren't invited to.

[Demonpenz]

haha he will always be dennis for me

[leviw]

haha he will always be dennis for me

That's fine. Just had never, ever heard that before.

[alnorth]

I'm pretty sure his real legal name is Denny. I dont see him referred to as Dennis, never heard him use that name himself or heard him referred to as that name by anyone else. Browsing around, only place I saw was a passing reference in some other message board post I googled up written by a guy who probably didnt know any better. The hall of fame generally uses real legal names, and puts nicknames in "quotes", but he's just Denny Matthews there too.

[Demonpenz]

I'm pretty sure his real legal name is Denny. I dont see him referred to as Dennis, never heard him use that name himself or heard him referred to as that name by anyone else. Browsing around, only place I saw was a passing reference in some other message board post I googled up written by a guy who probably didnt know any better.


I am pretty sure it is too. I heard it on the radio the other day and I think maybe in the early days it was a typo. I know I heard it somewhere the other day, maybe the voice from the hawkee's called him dennis.

[alnorth]

There were fewer teams back then, too. I bet it was a much more rare occurence for a city's only representative to not get into the game.

Fair enough, let me restate that. Even with the higher number of players today, there were more players excluded back then than today. Starting position players played deep into the game, often all 9 innings. Pitchers also didnt throw one inning at a time, and the starters really started.\

This whole "lets play everyone" agenda a few years ago was a fairly new thing, and a sign that they didnt take the game as seriously. It was just a show rather than a real game.

[leviw]

I am pretty sure it is too. I heard it on the radio the other day and I think maybe in the early days it was a typo. I know I heard it somewhere the other day, maybe the voice from the hawkee's called him dennis.

I think you're right. Someone on one of those "congrats" messages on the radio calls him that.

[Mojo Rising]

BTW, The Giants lost tonight, just like they did at 755....the last place Giants.

[Mr. Flopnuts]

Exactly.

Congrats, Hank. You earned it the hard way, in an era without the benefit of steroids, juiced baseballs, and diluted talent. Even when your family had to go into hiding because of death threats, you never stooped to playing the race or victim card.

How utterly refreshing.

Thank you, Mr. Henry Aaron.

.



You know this how?

[Logical]

The funny thing is:

He was my FAVORITE player as a kid.

But as I grew older, and heard the way he treated teammates, fans, etc.....I started to distance myself from rooting for him.

When he went to SF, outgrew his hats and put on 35 pounds in one offseason, I quit completely.

Guys like him, McGwire, Caminiti, Canseco have ruined the game for me.

It could have been something special. Instead, it's tainted and an embarrassment to the game. The man who holds the record now has zero integrity. And to basically steal the record from arguably the absolute classiest man to ever step foot on a MLB diamond.......1st of all Aaron will never be forgotten, was Ruth forgotten because Maris and Aaron eclipsed his records? Aaron will not be forgotten because Barry surpassed his record.

[ChiefsCountry]

I know the guy is a jerk but I always liked him as player growing up. Bonds was freaking amazing. I saw one of the greatest records in sports broke, pretty cool moment. Congratulations for right now, if you are proven guilty then it would be tarnsihed if not its his. A-Rod will probally break it but for right now its a pretty cool moment in sports.

[Mr. Flopnuts]

I know the guy is a jerk but I always liked him as player growing up. Bonds was freaking amazing. I saw one of the greatest records in sports broke, pretty cool moment. Congratulations for right now, if you are proven guilty then it would be tarnsihed if not its his. A-Rod will probally break it but for right now its a pretty cool moment in sports.


He's always been my favorite player, and I feel the exact same way. Does it seem obvious? Of course. Prove it now. I'll be the first to say F*ck Barry Bonds. Right after I say F*ck baseball for not fixing this problem long before it became what it is.

[SPchief]

Anybody watching the press confrence?

[Jenson71]

Anybody watching the press confrence?

Yeah I watched what ESPN showed. More questions about steriods and Greg Anderson, and the asterisk should have been asked.

[SPchief]

Yeah I watched what ESPN showed. More questions about steriods and Greg Anderson, and the asterisk should have been asked.


He didn't answer any of them, so more questions wouldn't have done anygood.

[Mojo Rising]

It is too bad that Barry didn't give Greg Anderson props for making the record possible. If he didn't sit in the Fed Pen for the past year plus BB would have not have been in the ball park tonight.

That was a good question.

Do you think the Giants will bring him back next year to go for 3,000 hits?

Barry was funny the way he referred of his quest to winning a ring, and getting back to winning games. Is that why he plays 7-8 innings a game and then leaves the park?

Bochy was also pretty funny in describing tonight, and the chase, as successful. They lost. They are in last place.

BB did thank his teammates for putting up with the distraction. He confirmed his dedication to the team. That was until he decided he wanted to leave before the game ended.

It's a tied game and I love you guys. I hope we win a ring. But it's the 8th inning and I'm out of here. Good luck! (And, don't me catch you sitting in my barca lounger watching my plasma in my triple wide locker.)

[Al Bundy]

One thing I noticed was that none of the players on the opposing team congratulated him, whereas when Aaron broke Ruth's record all of the infielders from the other team shook his hand as he ran by.

[Mecca]

Eddie Kennison just said people who say Bonds is a cheat and write all that crap "can go to hell as far as he's concerned"

[BIG_DADDY]

It is too bad that Barry didn't give Greg Anderson props for making the record possible. If he didn't sit in the Fed Pen for the past year plus BB would have not have been in the ball park tonight.

That was a good question.

Do you think the Giants will bring him back next year to go for 3,000 hits?

Barry was funny the way he referred of his quest to winning a ring, and getting back to winning games. Is that why he plays 7-8 innings a game and then leaves the park?

Bochy was also pretty funny in describing tonight, and the chase, as successful. They lost. They are in last place.

BB did thank his teammates for putting up with the distraction. He confirmed his dedication to the team. That was until he decided he wanted to leave before the game ended.

It's a tied game and I love you guys. I hope we win a ring. But it's the 8th inning and I'm out of here. Good luck! (And, don't me catch you sitting in my barca lounger watching my plasma in my triple wide locker.)

If he was a Dodger you would be pimping him like a MO. STFU Dodger fan.

[BIG_DADDY]

Hope Barry goes for 800

[Mecca]

Hope Barry goes for 800

He's pretty close to 3000 hits also...

[leviw]

Hope Barry goes for 800

A-Rod will still crush it.

[BIG_DADDY]

He's pretty close to 3000 hits also...

If he played 2 more years he would probably have 2,700 walks as well.

Only player to have 400 homers and stolen bases

Only player to have 500 homers and 500 stolen bases

8 consecutive years with an above .600 slugging percentage. Amazing.

[BIG_DADDY]

A-Rod will still crush it.

Probably. He still has to do it though.

[Demonpenz]

Arod is much better person than barry.

[BIG_DADDY]

Arod is much better person than barry.

I know the strippers definately think that's the case. LMAO

[Carlota69]

One thing I noticed was that none of the players on the opposing team congratulated him, whereas when Aaron broke Ruth's record all of the infielders from the other team shook his hand as he ran by.
Actually the players on the Nationals were applauding and the pitcher that gave it up, tipped his hat to him and then congratulated him.

[BIG_DADDY]

Actually the players on the Nationals were applauding and the pitcher that gave it up, tipped his hat to him and then congratulated him.

They see what they want to see. Actually if you ever see Barry on base players always walk up to him to shoot the shit.

[Hydrae]

I heard this on the radio this morning and my first reaction was, "Good, now maybe we can move on to something interesting like the NFL or the playoff races."

[kcxiv]

I know the guy is a jerk but I always liked him as player growing up. Bonds was freaking amazing. I saw one of the greatest records in sports broke, pretty cool moment. Congratulations for right now, if you are proven guilty then it would be tarnsihed if not its his. A-Rod will probally break it but for right now its a pretty cool moment in sports.
I am the number 1 Giants hater, but i did go out of my way to watch him break the record. I wanted to watch it.

I like how Barry is with the media. He does NOT let the media run him like everyone else does. The media hates him, and good for Barry. He has always been cool when he has done 1 on 1 interviews.

[Jenson71]

He didn't answer any of them, so more questions wouldn't have done anygood.

He still addressed them. "Why...why bring that up? That's just negative."

Don't rain on Barry's parade.

[BIG_DADDY]

He still addressed them. "Why...why bring that up? That's just negative."

Don't rain on Barry's parade.

Time and a place for everything.

[Jenson71]

Mike Lupica
Hollow record for bloated slugger
It's a tainted celebration as Bonds hits homer No. 756

Wednesday, August 8th 2007, 4:49 AM

Barry Bonds hit No. 756 last night, hit it against a former Met named Mike Bacsik, hit it in the one place in this world, San Francisco, where he is cheered more than booed and loved more than hated.

He hit No. 756 over a Bank of America sign in AT&T Park, the official capital of Barry Bonds, where all who cheer him seem to believe he passed Henry Aaron and became the all-time home run king of baseball without the help of enough performance-enhancing drugs to keep a battleship afloat.

Bonds finally passed Aaron at the age of 43, did it looking like some bloated version of the sleek and splendid talent he was when he was young. It does not change who he is or how he got here.

There has never been a sports moment quite like this, never a record broken under circumstances such as these, never a more polarizing star than this in all of sports history. The commissioner of baseball, Bud Selig, was under no obligation to cheer Bonds when he tied Aaron last weekend, and you are under no obligation to cheer him now and neither am I.

This is No. 756 but with a bullet, from a ballplayer who hit 292 home runs over the first 10 years of his major-league career and now has hit 464 since.

Bonds finally stops chasing Aaron now, all this time after Aaron stopped chasing Babe Ruth in old Fulton County Stadium in Atlanta in April of 1974. Bigots were after Aaron in those days. The United States government is after Bonds. Why? Because the government clearly thinks Bonds lied in front of a grand jury once when he said he never knowingly used steroids.

A ball hit off the 29-year-old lefthander Bacsik - he goes into history with Bonds the way an old Yankee went in with Aaron the night Aaron hit No.715 - does not change the fact that Bonds' former personal trainer, Greg Anderson, sits in a jail cell because he refuses to answer questions from the feds about the new home-run king of baseball.

Bonds passes Aaron in San Francisco last night at a time when you can go into a bookstore and read about the laundry list of performanceenhancing drugs from the authors of "Game of Shadows," Mark Fainaru-Wada and Lance Williams.

Ask yourself a question now that he has the record: If Fainaru-Wada and Williams made it all up, if they have told all these terrible and slanderous lies about Barry Bonds, why hasn't he sued them all the way into that famous McCovey Cove out beyond the ballpark he practically built for the Giants himself in San Francisco?

Ask yourself why his trainer would spend month after month in a jail cell if he has nothing to hide.

If you don't think they made it up in that book, and it sure would be a lot to make up, then you think what Bonds did is all right because a lot of other guys were doing it along with him.

"I ain't public enemy No. 1," Bonds said to me once, a long time ago, just the two of us sitting in the visitors' clubhouse at Shea Stadium for a magazine interview.

Nobody is saying he is public enemy No. 1 now. Or that he is the only one whose body grew along with his home-run totals over the last decade in baseball. He is just the best one. He was the best all-around player in the game, a Hall of Fame combination of speed and power. It wasn't enough for him.

He needed to be bigger, in all ways. He has made his history now. How he is judged by it is another matter altogether.

You don't have to believe he took everything from female fertility drugs to human growth hormones as his body grew the way it did, got him to 73 home runs in a season at the age of 37, on his way to 756 last night. I do.

Bonds was always going to hit a lot of home runs, for a long time, because he is one of the great talents to come along in 50 years in baseball. He was never going to pass Aaron without help. Two-hundred-ninety-two home runs in his first 10 years, 756 now. Go figure.

"I'll tell you something," Bonds said to me that day in Shea, at a time in his career when he had done nothing to indicate he would hit more home runs someday than his godfather, Willie Mays, or Ruth, or Aaron. "At this stage in my life, in my career, I'm more comfortable with myself than I've ever been. I'm a very happy person, except when I'm in a slump. I know the truth about myself."

He knew the truth about himself then. And he knows the truth about himself now. He knows how he got bigger, and stronger, and showed even more bat speed than he had when he was young. Bonds says that steroids don't hit a baseball for you. Maybe he can explain why he looks the way he does now and his numbers look the way they do after the first 10 years he had in baseball.

"The only thing I ever used was chewing gum," Aaron said once to a friend of mine.

The most Aaron ever hit in a season was 47 home runs. He did what he did at 6 feet and 180 pounds. Look at him. Look at Bonds. You cheer Bonds if you want to. Maybe the real reason Aaron wasn't there last night to stand next to Bonds was this: Somebody as big as Aaron should never look small.

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/col/lupica/

[Mecca]

I find it pretty funny that sports writers who likely never played a sport and surely have no experience with steroids think they are versed enough to comment about this.....

i also find it highly funny that baseball took a problem they essentially created and turned a blind eye too and shifted it all on Bonds. Sad thing is everyone has gone right along with that.

[Jenson71]

I find it pretty funny that sports writers who likely never played a sport and surely have no experience with steroids think they are versed enough to comment about this.....

That is a ridiculous statement.

[Mecca]

That is a ridiculous statement.

Really, what do you personally know about steroids? This common perception the media plays about them isn't exactly 100% truthful.

[Jenson71]

Really, what do you personally know about steroids? This common perception the media plays about them isn't exactly 100% truthful.

I know that they are illegal, even if MLB did not start testing til just a few years ago.

[Mecca]

I know that they are illegal, even if MLB did not start testing til just a few years ago.

Well guess what, if you don't test for them then you can't bitch about it. That would be like saying if I go to work and half my coworkers are drugged up, that's the companies fault for not drug testing..

If you don't test for things you ASK for it.

[OnTheWarpath15]

I know that they are illegal, even if MLB did not start testing til just a few years ago.

Yep.

Illegal in MLB since June of 1991.

[Mecca]

Boy they were really enforcing it weren't they....."hey you know to work here we have a no smoking weed policy but we won't test you for it"

[Jenson71]

Well guess what, if you don't test for them then you can't bitch about it. That would be like saying if I go to work and half my coworkers are drugged up, that's the companies fault for not drug testing..

If you don't test for things you ASK for it.

I also know a little about and believe in personal responsibility and respect for the game. I don't live my life doing anything I can to get ahead just because I might not get caught.

[Mecca]

Athletes do, saying something illegal then not testing for it is an invitation.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Thanks Captain Integrity.......

So it's OK to break the law, as well as the rules of MLB......

Just because the law is unenforced?

Illegal = Illegal.

Wrong = Wrong.

No one put a gun to Barry's head and made him shoot up.

There are plenty of guys who choose to play the game straight up.

Because they have integrity and respect the game.

Barry has/does neither.

[Mecca]

You don't think guys take shortcuts all the time? Where you been....

[BIG_DADDY]

I also know a little about and believe in personal responsibility and respect for the game. I don't live my life doing anything I can to get ahead just because I might not get caught.

You're not a professional baseball player making that a moot point.

[Mecca]

When guys are driven to be the absolute best and there are things that aren't being tested for that will make them that much better......guys do it, it's the nature of sports.

[OnTheWarpath15]

When guys are driven to be the absolute best and there are things that aren't being tested for that will make them that much better......guys do it, it's the nature of sports.

SOME guys do it.

Not all.

Let's not get this thing twisted.......

And I'm sorry, you either have integrity or you don't.

It doesn't matter if you're a ballplayer, a stockbroker or a general contractor.

As a college student, I'm driven to be the best and get all the scholarship money I can. But I don't, and won't cheat to do it.

I work my ass off and EARN the grades and scholorships I receive.

[Jenson71]

When guys are driven to be the absolute best and there are things that aren't being tested for that will make them that much better......guys do it, it's the nature of sports.

Uh huh.
http://msnbcmedia2.msn.com/j/msnbc/Components/Photos/040405/040405_aaron_vmed3p.widec.jpg

[Mecca]

How many years ago was that? Steroids were developed in the 60's I believe.......There' honestly no proof to what guys back then were doing either.

The general information out there about steroids is wrong, it's huge propaganda style thing about how evil steroids are and it promotes misinformation.

[OnTheWarpath15]

How many years ago was that? Steroids were developed in the 60's I believe.......There' honestly no proof to what guys back then were doing either.

The general information out there about steroids is wrong, it's huge propaganda style thing about how evil steroids are and it promotes misinformation.

Propaganda or not, they are ILLEGAL.

Period.

[Mecca]

Propaganda or not, they are ILLEGAL.

Period.

By the government? Yea because we have the only government that feels it must make everything illegal, even when they don't really know. Feeling they have to protect idiots from themselves and stupid shit like that no other countries do that.....

We're one of the very few countries where steroids are illegal.

[BIG_DADDY]

Uh huh.
http://msnbcmedia2.msn.com/j/msnbc/Components/Photos/040405/040405_aaron_vmed3p.widec.jpg


Like anyone knew what anyone else was doing back then.

[Adept Havelock]

Propaganda or not, they are ILLEGAL.

Period.

Mecca sounds very much like one of those idiots that spouts about how something is only illegal if you get caught.

I had a neighbor like that, taught his kid the same thing. Surprise, surprise, the kids now doing 10-15 near Jefferson City.

Forget integrity, a fans mouth hug for Barry is clearly more important. :rolleyes:

[BIG_DADDY]

Apparently, to Barry Bonds supporters, it wouldn't matter. They could be doing anything, because hey, no one checked them!

But let's be honest. We know Hank Aaron used "nothing but chewing gum."

The Bonds supporters, at least on this thread, seem to live in some dark, shadowy world where everyone has their own secret alley and dealer. Where a great athlete isn't developed through hard work, perseverance, dedication and God-given natural ability, but pills, creams, shots, and whatever else they can get their hands on in order to rise above the rest to see their name next to some number they think defines their game and career.

Well I'm going to reject this world, even if it means I have to reject this whole generation of baseball or sports altogether. Even if it means I'm forced to find my heroes not on espn highlights or tomorrow's newspaper, but on something so simple as a run down football field in a small town on Friday night or half a ball diamond with a weed filled batters box. Because there would be the true idea of sports - man's greatest achievements through those qualities I've already mentioned above.

Sports is not about science's greatest achievements. Not about the newest technology. It has nothing to do with that. And baseball is too much of a beautiful staple of our culture to be watered down with false idols and factory produced headliners. Go ahead and cheer for someone who needed it to survive, to reach the pinnacle of the sport. But while you're doing so, I would ask that you take some time to read just two books: 1. To Kill a Mockingbird, which is about a man's integrity not being swayed by popular notions and 2. When Pride Still Mattered, which besides it's great title to ponder on, you can read about a man who said this:

"I firmly believe that any man's finest hour, the greatest fulfillment of all that he holds dear, is that moment when he has worked his heart out in a good cause and lies exhausted on the field of battle - victorious."

If you think that Barry Bonds wasn't developed through hard work, perseverance, dedication and God-given natural ability you're :bong: You can take all the roids you want and won't make the majors. I know you like sporting yourself as a Jedi Master and frankly admire you for choosing that path. What you posted though sounds a lot like someone who just resents someone elses success and in reality comes up WAY short. Needed to survive? LMAO come on. Even now at 43 under the microscope he is still the most feard hitter in the league.

Fact is you know what you posted is misleading but any means to an end right? Now your messing with the dark side of the force Master Yoda, better be careful.

[alnorth]

If you think that Barry Bonds developed only through hard work, perseverance, dedication and God-given natural ability you're :bong:

FYP

Barry Bonds is a fraud, and deserves no respect, admiration, or recognition for his hollow "achievement".

[Demonpenz]

Like he cares about what respect he gets. the only respect that matters is when that catcher puts that mitt 10 feet outside and 4 pitches go wide of the strike zone. that's 2,191 worth fo respect

[Sam Hall]

Bonds, the current record holder for most home runs*, is congratulated by Bush, who won the 2000 election*

[Demonpenz]

The interview is on now 56 if anyone cares

[alnorth]

Like he cares about what respect he gets. the only respect that matters is when that catcher puts that mitt 10 feet outside and 4 pitches go wide of the strike zone. that's 2,191 worth fo respect

Cool. That has absolutely nothing to do with my post whatsoever, though.

Barry Bonds is an utter disgrace to the game, and should be greeted with boos or silence rather than cheers wherever he goes.

When he retires, he should be shut out from the hall of fame alongside the other frauds such as McGwire and Palmeiro.

[VonneMarie]

Bonds, the current record holder for most home runs*, is congratulated by Bush, who won the 2000 election*
Now that's funny.

[Jenson71]

A day later, the taint remains and the questions begin about Bonds' place in history
By TIM DAHLBERG, AP Sports Columnist
August 9, 2007

SAN FRANCISCO (AP) -- The all-time hit king remains banned from the game he loves and makes his living signing autographs in Las Vegas. The new home run king owns a record, but not many hearts outside San Francisco.

Baseball was once a game that glorified the likes of Lou Gehrig and Joe DiMaggio. But Joltin' Joe has left and gone away.

Nearly a decade ago, Mark McGwire and Sammy Sosa were the game's conquering heroes, big men who could swat the ball out of the park with seeming impunity. Now they are discredited, one already initially denied entrance to the Hall of Fame and the other facing some big questions when his turn comes on the ballot.

Pete Rose was the best singles hitter ever but never will be in Cooperstown because he liked to bet on games involving his team. And the steroid cloud that hovers over Bonds everywhere he goes could cost him his place in baseball's most hallowed shrine.

The day after one of the greatest records in sports was broken, a nation was left wondering where all its sports heroes had gone.

A city celebrated Tuesday night when Bonds hit home run No. 756 to break Aaron's mark, and Aaron himself was gracious enough to pass along the crown, albeit via a salute taped weeks earlier. But commissioner Bud Selig stayed away, and baseball was deliberately wary about a slugger who may spend time in a federal prison before he spends time in Cooperstown.

"I don't know what they would do if they found out he did steroids. What could they do?" Rose told The Associated Press on Wednesday. "If (steroids investigator) George Mitchell comes back with concrete evidence, what could he do? It's just a strange situation. I believe anybody in baseball who breaks any rules, anybody, not just Barry Bonds, they have to penalize. I broke the rules, and I've been suspended 18 years."

Even President Bush kept his distance on the historic night, waiting until Wednesday to call Bonds to offer his congratulations.

Republican presidential candidate John McCain, one of the lawmakers active in hearings examining the use of steroids in baseball, was asked Thursday on NBC's "Today" whether he would put an asterisk next to Bonds' record.

"As a baseball fan, yes," the Arizona senator said. "It's sort of inappropriate for me, but in my personal opinion as a lifelong baseball fan: asterisk."

It didn't have to be this way. Bonds already was a great player and a sure pick to join his godfather, Willie Mays, in the Hall before he defied the trend of virtually every player who has ever set foot on a field and became a lot better as he got a lot older.

And that, says Hall of Fame pitcher Dennis Eckersley, might be the cruelest irony of all.

"This guy is probably one of the greatest players to ever play, and he got greedy," Eckersley said. "It wasn't good enough to be great. How great do you have to be?"

The numbers prove how great Bonds is, just as numbers define most every player who has ever played the game. But in Bonds' case they also raise questions. He never hit 50 home runs a year before he became associated with the infamous BALCO lab and suddenly set a new season record by hitting 73 out of the park in 2001.

From the age of 35 on, a time when almost every athlete begins losing his timing and power, Bonds hit 311 of his 756 home runs.

He reportedly told a federal grand jury that he used the "clear" and "cream," thinking it was flaxseed oil and arthritis balm. And his former trainer sits in prison while prosecutors try to convince a federal grand jury that Bonds lied when he said he didn't know he was taking steroids.

Richard Lapchick, who directs the University of Central Florida's Institute for Diversity and Ethics in Sports, said Bonds will end up as the poster child for steroid use because of the record he broke.

There's little doubt many players were users -- including Clay Hensley, who gave up the tying 755th home run in San Diego -- but Lapchick said there is also little doubt that Bonds did something to make himself grow stronger at an age where muscles begin to deteriorate.

"I don't see how it's possible there will be some events that come out that he had not used. I know sports fans and media people and people in baseball don't think that will ever happen," Lapchick said. "I think he will be viewed with this cloud in his lifetime and forever."

Bonds insists his record is legitimate.

"This record is not tainted at all. At all. Period," Bonds said on a night where seemingly everyone in San Francisco was celebrating the new home run king.

Unfortunately for Bonds, that's not his call.

Baseball writers ultimately will decide his place in history and his place in the Hall of Fame. And if their thumbs-down vote on Mark McGwire last year is any indication, there's a chance he could join Rose and McGwire on the outside looking in.

Gambling cost Rose his spot in Cooperstown, which was seemingly assured when he broke Ty Cobb's record and went on to set a mark of 4,256 hits that may never be challenged. While Bonds' supporters argue that he has never tested positive for steroids, as far as we know, Rose was kept out of the Hall and out of the game even before he admitted he bet on baseball while managing the Cincinnati Reds in the 1980s.

Bonds may never be tried in a court of law, but the court of public opinion has already spoken. While there was jubilation in San Francisco when he broke the record and some cheers in San Diego when he tied it, the boos lately have come heavy and often in every ballpark Bonds has traveled to.

Eckersley said many Hall of Famers quietly discussed the subject of steroids at Cooperstown last month for the induction of Cal Ripken Jr. and Tony Gwynn.

The former pitcher says he is among those who expect Bonds to be indicted and that he has his suspicions about how legitimate the new record is.

"He didn't get caught," Eckersley said, "but if I had to vote right now, I'd vote he did it."

Tim Dahlberg is a national sports columnist for The Associated Press. Write to him at tdahlberg@ap.org

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=ap-taintedrecords&prov=ap&type=lgns

[BIG_DADDY]

Cool. That has absolutely nothing to do with my post whatsoever, though.

Barry Bonds is an utter disgrace to the game, and should be greeted with boos or silence rather than cheers wherever he goes.

When he retires, he should be shut out from the hall of fame alongside the other frauds such as McGwire and Palmeiro.

OK LMAO

[BIG_DADDY]

A day later, the taint remains and the questions begin about Bonds' place in history
By TIM DAHLBERG, AP Sports Columnist
August 9, 2007

SAN FRANCISCO (AP) -- The all-time hit king remains banned from the game he loves and makes his living signing autographs in Las Vegas. The new home run king owns a record, but not many hearts outside San Francisco.

Baseball was once a game that glorified the likes of Lou Gehrig and Joe DiMaggio. But Joltin' Joe has left and gone away.

Nearly a decade ago, Mark McGwire and Sammy Sosa were the game's conquering heroes, big men who could swat the ball out of the park with seeming impunity. Now they are discredited, one already initially denied entrance to the Hall of Fame and the other facing some big questions when his turn comes on the ballot.

Pete Rose was the best singles hitter ever but never will be in Cooperstown because he liked to bet on games involving his team. And the steroid cloud that hovers over Bonds everywhere he goes could cost him his place in baseball's most hallowed shrine.

The day after one of the greatest records in sports was broken, a nation was left wondering where all its sports heroes had gone.

A city celebrated Tuesday night when Bonds hit home run No. 756 to break Aaron's mark, and Aaron himself was gracious enough to pass along the crown, albeit via a salute taped weeks earlier. But commissioner Bud Selig stayed away, and baseball was deliberately wary about a slugger who may spend time in a federal prison before he spends time in Cooperstown.

"I don't know what they would do if they found out he did steroids. What could they do?" Rose told The Associated Press on Wednesday. "If (steroids investigator) George Mitchell comes back with concrete evidence, what could he do? It's just a strange situation. I believe anybody in baseball who breaks any rules, anybody, not just Barry Bonds, they have to penalize. I broke the rules, and I've been suspended 18 years."

Even President Bush kept his distance on the historic night, waiting until Wednesday to call Bonds to offer his congratulations.

Republican presidential candidate John McCain, one of the lawmakers active in hearings examining the use of steroids in baseball, was asked Thursday on NBC's "Today" whether he would put an asterisk next to Bonds' record.

"As a baseball fan, yes," the Arizona senator said. "It's sort of inappropriate for me, but in my personal opinion as a lifelong baseball fan: asterisk."

It didn't have to be this way. Bonds already was a great player and a sure pick to join his godfather, Willie Mays, in the Hall before he defied the trend of virtually every player who has ever set foot on a field and became a lot better as he got a lot older.

And that, says Hall of Fame pitcher Dennis Eckersley, might be the cruelest irony of all.

"This guy is probably one of the greatest players to ever play, and he got greedy," Eckersley said. "It wasn't good enough to be great. How great do you have to be?"

The numbers prove how great Bonds is, just as numbers define most every player who has ever played the game. But in Bonds' case they also raise questions. He never hit 50 home runs a year before he became associated with the infamous BALCO lab and suddenly set a new season record by hitting 73 out of the park in 2001.

From the age of 35 on, a time when almost every athlete begins losing his timing and power, Bonds hit 311 of his 756 home runs.

He reportedly told a federal grand jury that he used the "clear" and "cream," thinking it was flaxseed oil and arthritis balm. And his former trainer sits in prison while prosecutors try to convince a federal grand jury that Bonds lied when he said he didn't know he was taking steroids.

Richard Lapchick, who directs the University of Central Florida's Institute for Diversity and Ethics in Sports, said Bonds will end up as the poster child for steroid use because of the record he broke.

There's little doubt many players were users -- including Clay Hensley, who gave up the tying 755th home run in San Diego -- but Lapchick said there is also little doubt that Bonds did something to make himself grow stronger at an age where muscles begin to deteriorate.

"I don't see how it's possible there will be some events that come out that he had not used. I know sports fans and media people and people in baseball don't think that will ever happen," Lapchick said. "I think he will be viewed with this cloud in his lifetime and forever."

Bonds insists his record is legitimate.

"This record is not tainted at all. At all. Period," Bonds said on a night where seemingly everyone in San Francisco was celebrating the new home run king.

Unfortunately for Bonds, that's not his call.

Baseball writers ultimately will decide his place in history and his place in the Hall of Fame. And if their thumbs-down vote on Mark McGwire last year is any indication, there's a chance he could join Rose and McGwire on the outside looking in.

Gambling cost Rose his spot in Cooperstown, which was seemingly assured when he broke Ty Cobb's record and went on to set a mark of 4,256 hits that may never be challenged. While Bonds' supporters argue that he has never tested positive for steroids, as far as we know, Rose was kept out of the Hall and out of the game even before he admitted he bet on baseball while managing the Cincinnati Reds in the 1980s.

Bonds may never be tried in a court of law, but the court of public opinion has already spoken. While there was jubilation in San Francisco when he broke the record and some cheers in San Diego when he tied it, the boos lately have come heavy and often in every ballpark Bonds has traveled to.

Eckersley said many Hall of Famers quietly discussed the subject of steroids at Cooperstown last month for the induction of Cal Ripken Jr. and Tony Gwynn.

The former pitcher says he is among those who expect Bonds to be indicted and that he has his suspicions about how legitimate the new record is.

"He didn't get caught," Eckersley said, "but if I had to vote right now, I'd vote he did it."

Tim Dahlberg is a national sports columnist for The Associated Press. Write to him at tdahlberg@ap.org

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=ap-taintedrecords&prov=ap&type=lgns

Bonds will make the HOF, you can bet on it.

[bkkcoh]

http://www.strangesports.com/images/content/128829.jpg

Thanks Barry

[BIG_DADDY]

http://www.strangesports.com/images/content/128829.jpg

Thanks Barry


Watching Barry over the last few years has been more exciting than watching the entire Royals franchise so I understand you anguish.

[bkkcoh]

Watching Barry over the years has been more exciting than watching the entire Royals franchise so I understand you anguish.


Whatever! :banghead: I would rather watch George Brett leg out a double that the outfielder was able to cutoff instead of watching Bonds crush a home run.

[BIG_DADDY]

Whatever! :banghead: I would rather watch George Brett leg out a double that the outfielder was able to cutoff instead of watching Bonds crush a home run.
Yea ya would LMAO

[bkkcoh]

Yea ya would LMAO


Barry has a world series ring, right?

[BIG_DADDY]

Barry has a world series ring, right?


Where did I say that?

Barry has been more exciting to watch than the Royals for a long time now. If you're going to write off anyone without a ring get ready to shit on Dick Butkis, Dan Marino, Barry Sanders, Ted Williams and Charles Barkley just to name a few.

[Logical]

Bonds will make the HOF, you can bet on it.

I think so as well, and he deserves the honor, regardless of the Home Run records.

[Calcountry]

Watching Barry over the last few years has been more exciting than watching the entire Royals franchise so I understand you anguish.The The San Francisco Barry Bonds have been real fun to watch. Set your Tivo, then FF to the 4 or 5 AB's he has, then hit delete. Saves loads of time.

Sure is a pity for all the rest of them poor suckers on that Bench to have to all sit on one side of the club house just to accommodate Barry's roid enhanced skull. One good thing about that though, is that his cranium is finally large enough to house his ego.

[bkkcoh]

Where did I say that?

Barry has been more exciting to watch than the Royals for a long time now. If you're going to write off anyone without a ring get ready to shit on Dick Butkis, Dan Marino, Barry Sanders, Ted Williams and Charles Barkley just to name a few.

BD,

you didn't. I think it is more exciting for a team to win the world series after going 162 games, fighting through the adversity and winning in October.

I am not saying that Bonds isn't a good player, you just have to add an '*' to his name.

There have been a lot of great players that haven't won thier sports championship. That is a very dubious distinction to have 'the best player never to have won a championship' said about you.