Talk about the sky is falling [Archive]

DaneMcCloud

09-04-2007, 01:03 AM

Times have changed.

We're not even mediocre anymore...we completely suck now. We had it coming.

Typical Chiefs fan.

I went back to KC in January of 1996 to visit my family. The Chiefs had just come off a 13-3 season and hadn't yet lost to the Colts.

All I heard while I was visiting is how the Chiefs "sucked" and how they were gonna lose to the Colts. From family members to Westport to friends to radio programs.

My, how things have changed. :shake:

Smed1065

09-04-2007, 01:05 AM

I like being the underdog. Means we will do better than expected but we do suk on the road.

007

09-04-2007, 01:05 AM

Typical Chiefs fan.

I went back to KC in January of 1996 to visit my family. The Chiefs had just come off a 13-3 season and hadn't yet lost to the Colts.

All I heard while I was visiting is how the Chiefs "sucked" and how they were gonna lose to the Colts. From family members to Westport to friends to radio programs.

My, how things have changed. :shake:
Well, in their defense..... They were right. :banghead:

elvomito

09-04-2007, 01:18 AM

I think we'll win, and this place will have a meltdown because of it

DaneMcCloud

09-04-2007, 01:20 AM

Well, in their defense..... They were right. :banghead:

The Chiefs SUCKED in 1995? :rolleyes:

Uh, I don't think so. They won 13 games. They may not have won in the playoffs, but they hardly "sucked".

The Jets were 3-13, Jags 4-12 and the Cards 4-12. Those teams "sucked".

I guarantee that ANY of those teams and their fans would have gladly traded placed with the Chiefs.

As would have 12 other NFL cities and their fans.

keg in kc

09-04-2007, 01:20 AM

That means the game's a push, and the home team's getting 3 points for...playing at home...

In other words, Vegas has no idea what's going to happen.

007

09-04-2007, 01:22 AM

The Chiefs SUCKED in 1995? :rolleyes:

Uh, I don't think so. They won 13 games. They may not have won in the playoffs, but they hardly "sucked".

The Jets were 3-13, Jags 4-12 and the Cards 4-12. Those teams "sucked".

I guarantee that ANY of those teams and their fans would have gladly traded placed with the Chiefs.

As would have 12 other NFL cities and their fans.
Let me rephrase, there were right about losing to the colts. I did not say we sucked.

Smed1065

09-04-2007, 01:36 AM

Home field advantage adds 7 points, IIRC.

SPchief

09-04-2007, 01:37 AM

Home field advantage adds 7 points, IIRC.

Homefield is 3 points, not 7.

KCwolf

09-04-2007, 01:52 AM

007

09-04-2007, 01:53 AM

OK...........my point is that Houston is basically the doormat of the NFL...and yet are a 3 pt. favorite....granted @ home....but JJJJJEEEESUUUSSS......this is not a good sign for things to come. Vegas does this shit for a living.
I am not overly surprised by this. I cannot say with even 70% certainty that we will win this game.

KCwolf

09-04-2007, 01:57 AM

In the past 10 years if we open with Houston - How many times do we win?

KCwolf

09-04-2007, 01:59 AM

10?

KurtCobain

09-04-2007, 02:01 AM

Homefield is 3 points, not 7.

Against the Chiefs, it should be 20. :shake:

007

09-04-2007, 02:04 AM

In the past 10 years if we open with Houston - How many times do we win?
4-1

They haven't been in the league 10 years yet.

SPchief

09-04-2007, 02:24 AM

Against the Chiefs, it should be 20. :shake:

You want to put some money on that?

KurtCobain

09-04-2007, 02:25 AM

4-1

They haven't been in the league 10 years yet.

I think what he means is, in the past ten years, if we opened against this particular Texans team in Houston, how many times would we started 1-0?

I think nine years out of ten.

KurtCobain

09-04-2007, 02:27 AM

You want to put some money on that?

I'm just saying we suck on the road.

However, I'm putting money, and my nice stereo, on the Chiefs winning at Houston Sunday.

007

09-04-2007, 02:27 AM

I think what he means is, in the past ten years, if we opened against this particular Texans team in Houston, how many times would we started 1-0?

I think nine years out of ten.
Yeah, I knew what he meant. I just felt like being a smartass. :)

SPchief

09-04-2007, 02:28 AM

I'm just saying we suck on the road.

However, I'm putting money, and my nice stereo, on the Chiefs winning at Houston Sunday.

I was just pointing out the 20 spread that you stated.

orange

09-04-2007, 02:58 AM

I think what he means is, in the past ten years, if we opened against this particular Texans team in Houston, how many times would we started 1-0?

I think nine years out of ten.

TEXANS LASSO CHIEFS, 24-21
Sep 26, 2004, 10:00:00 AM

Chiefs-Texans Postgame Notes
Chiefs-Texans Postgame Quotes
Chiefs-Texans Gamebook & Stats

By Patrick Herb

For the first time since the start of the 1980 season, the Chiefs are still looking for their first win after Week Three. Kansas City (0-3) may have lost its first two games in difficult fashion, but Sunday’s 24-21 loss to the Houston Texans (1-2) is by far the toughest pill to shallow.

“We had an opportunity to win a football game here and we couldn’t take advantage of it,” head coach Dick Vermeil said after the game. “A lot of different things contributed to it, but in the final say, we just didn’t get it done. We allowed [Houston] to hang around long enough for them to make a play and win a football game.”

http://www.kcchiefs.com/news/2004/09/26/game_summary/

Smed1065

09-04-2007, 03:15 AM

Homefield is 3 points, not 7.

I was hoping.

My bad.

Bob Dole

09-04-2007, 05:57 AM

Bob Dole doesn't think the Texans are going to be quite as bad as people seem to think.

old_geezer

09-04-2007, 06:11 AM

The Chiefs have yet to show any signs of an offense this year. I mean NONE. I don't think any team looked worse (or could have looked worse) than we did this pre-season, so I'm not a bit surprised at us being underdogs on the road. Whoever gets the big turnover in this one will probably win it IMO.

crazycoffey

09-04-2007, 06:15 AM

Mile High Mania

09-04-2007, 06:18 AM

Bob Dole doesn't think the Texans are going to be quite as bad as people seem to think.

Agreed. I'm not sure how long it will take for them to gel, but Schaub looks good... Green back with Sherman as OC adds an interesting element. Jacoby Jones looks very promising, then you always have Andre Johnson and an improving defense.

I have no idea what to expect from them, but they're not a bad team.

NUMBER7

09-04-2007, 06:27 AM

We better win because this 1 of the 5 games I have us winning on the way to our 5 and 11 season.

Go Chiefs!

GoHuge

09-04-2007, 07:21 AM

We will win this game, however - I'm not sure we beat the spread.....

I'm going to make a bet on the money line.
oh, and you didn't even list what the over/under was, but you said to take the under. You are right, but it's 35 or 38.5 or something like that.I think whatever the under is would be a good play. Houston's O-line has always been terrible(unless they made some changes), and they have a first year QB. Houston is going to have an insanely stout D-line with Okoye and the guy from last year (Williams I think). The only bright side is LJ in years past has gone off down in Houston. Hope he is in good enough shape to run it 25 times. I know it was just preseason, but this defense bent way too much for my liking. Hopefully that was just the vanilla, not show anything, base only look that caused that. We shall see, but the under would be my play. Should be a pretty sloppy offensive game from what I've seen. Hopefully we just ran base on offense and the O-line was playing the rope-a-dope and will come out swinging.

The Red Sea

09-04-2007, 07:28 AM

I thought all Chief fans have known for the past 15 yrs to Never ever listen to the talking heads.

In yrs that we played fairly well like the 13-3 season we barely made 30 seconds on sportscenter.
They talk about for that 30 seconds how were Not as good as our record shows.
In yrs we were 9-7 were on for 2 mniutes & they point out all our faults.

We hit the media only Slightly more than teams like Detroit or Arizona cause we Have played better than some But we havent been to the AFC champ game in too long & lets not talk about how many feel about how long since we've been in the Super Bowl.

The Chiefs will not get a fair shake in the media till we get back to the AFC champ game or the bowl.

That said going in without Even a QB for the talking heads to talk about... Trent Greens been an underrated QB..etc..
Then the only thing they have to talk about is LJ toss in a sprinkle of TGs getting old & thats it.

Talking heads cant find a thing to say.

A tad more than Arizona a Ton less than the colts.

Its our fate till the day PRINT'EM comes true.

SOooo that said IF the Chiefs when the first couple of games.
We MIGHT get that 1 minute Blip on Sportscenter how were proving suprising thus far.

Personally I feel if Huard can not turn the ball over & we hand it off to LJ we Might win this damn game.

crazycoffey

09-04-2007, 07:30 AM

I think whatever the under is would be a good play. .. I know it was just preseason, but this defense bent way too much for my liking. Hopefully that was just the vanilla, not show anything, base only look that caused that. We shall see...

Herm sure does have many of the players believing that it was base/vanilla only. That has to be a good sign even if it's a false statement (I don't believe it to be).

I was only busting your balls on the under statement. Being that it is in the thirties, under seems to be a good bet, but you just never know in this league....

Bwana

09-04-2007, 07:33 AM

I really don't know what to think about this first game either. I agree with the posters above regarding the team that gets "the big break," or turnover wins the game, because I think it will be close. May it be us!

The only way we get spanked IMHO, is if the OL looks as bad as it did in pre-season and Huard doesn't get any time to unload the ball. At that point, we could have Joe Montana in his prime back there and it wouldn't have a happy ending.

Chiefnj2

09-04-2007, 07:37 AM

How bad must the Texans be, not to be a 10+ point home favorite?

Skip Towne

09-04-2007, 07:42 AM

We will win this game, however - I'm not sure we beat the spread.....

Huh?

crazycoffey

09-04-2007, 07:48 AM

Huh?

Nice catch, that was a retarded thing to say, I hadn't had my coffee this morning yet....

We are the underdogs, if we win, the spread doesn't apply. D'uh, I'm so screwed in the football gambling thread.

StcChief

09-04-2007, 07:53 AM

-3 on the road to open a season. Not a real surprise.

crazycoffey

09-04-2007, 08:00 AM

+3 on the road to open a season. Not a real surprise.

FYP (don't worry, I made myself look like a tool only a few moments ago.)

HemiEd

09-04-2007, 08:04 AM

We will win this game, however - I'm not sure we beat the spread.....

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ROFL Quite the gambler heh!?

HemiEd

09-04-2007, 08:10 AM

Nice catch, that was a retarded thing to say, I hadn't had my coffee this morning yet....

We are the underdogs, if we win, the spread doesn't apply. D'uh, I'm so screwed in the football gambling thread.
hey

crazycoffey

09-04-2007, 08:13 AM

hey

I know, I'm kinda a kill joy, huh.

tiptap

09-04-2007, 08:14 AM

The tendencies of the Houston and Kansas City teams are mirrors. Both teams will try to run up the middle and both defenses have been pretty good stopping runs up the middle. The difference in play is that Houston hasn't done well in defending the pass. The RB and TE have done well against Houston not that the WR have done poorly. For KC's defense they have had trouble with the 3rd WR and the TE. This year the KC defense is looking to put Surtain as the Nickel Back. I think this a bold move to try and address the big problem with 3rd down situations and the completion rate to that third WR for 1st downs. Donnie Edwards should give us better coverage of TE. So I am looking for better play. We didn't see the good defensive line play at the point of attack like last year during pre season. I am hoping that a good rotation along the d-line and better skills in the two gap method (important in defending the Denver/Atlanta/Houston zone blocking offense) is ready for this game. A. Green is a better back for this type of running game and if not discipline he could make KC pay. On KC side the running game should improve with LJ getting time in the backfield. What I suspect is that he will be in less during the first part of the game and will be seen more in the 2nd half.

The kicking game has me very worried. It is why I am anxious about this game. Houston will have good returns and their FG situation is in much better zone of comfort. This is the achilles heel in this game.

Nzoner

09-04-2007, 08:26 AM

this is not a good sign for things to come. Vegas does this shit for a living.

which is exactly why the Chargers -6 over the Bears has me scratching my head.Last year's NFC SB represenative going to Diego with a heaalcious defense to face a 14-2 team from last year who now has a new HC,OC,DC.

I'm REALLY looking forward to seeing this one.

HemiEd

09-04-2007, 08:34 AM

which is exactly why the Chargers -6 over the Bears has me scratching my head.Last year's NFC SB represenative going to Diego with a heaalcious defense to face a 14-2 team from last year who now has a new HC,OC,DC.

I'm REALLY looking forward to seeing this one.

I usually wait until week 5 or 6 to do anything for real. Like someone said earlier, Vegas has no ****ing idea what is going to happen. They put the lines out there to coax bets both ways, they win the juice.

I actually think SD will cover this spread. :D

FAX

09-04-2007, 08:37 AM

Have no fear. Herm is going to shock the league.

We have so many new and unknown players, it will be utterly impossible to prepare for us.

FAX

KC-TBB

09-04-2007, 08:38 AM

What is all the fuss about Underdog?

Frazod

09-04-2007, 08:47 AM

Is McIntosh going to start? Without him, we're f#cked, IMO. And probably f#cked anyway.

I'm also looking for Stonehands Parker to drop a couple of touchdown passes that Sippio would have caught. :#

Nzoner

09-04-2007, 08:55 AM

I usually wait until week 5 or 6 to do anything for real. Like someone said earlier, Vegas has no ****ing idea what is going to happen. They put the lines out there to coax bets both ways, they win the juice.

I actually think SD will cover this spread. :D

But by waiting(and I definitely see your point)you're not $100 actually. :D

HemiEd

09-04-2007, 09:19 AM

But by waiting(and I definitely see your point)you're not $100 actually. :D

Joe, I am confused, please explain? Is this some reference to the Yahoo deal? :hmmm:

Nzoner

09-04-2007, 09:40 AM

Joe, I am confused, please explain? Is this some reference to the Yahoo deal? :hmmm:

Nah,you said you like to wait 5-6 weeks in before doing anything for real and then followed it with you like Diego actually to cover so I said just not $100 actually.

D-O-E-S T-H-A-T M-A-K-E S-E-N-S-E :)

HemiEd

09-04-2007, 09:43 AM

Nah,you said you like to wait 5-6 weeks in before doing anything for real and then followed it with you like Diego actually to cover so I said just not $100 actually.

D-O-E-S T-H-A-T M-A-K-E S-E-N-S-E :)

ROFL Little dense this morning, rough weekend!

keg in kc

09-04-2007, 09:47 AM

Is McIntosh going to start? Without him, we're f#cked, IMO. And probably f#cked anyway.Here's something to brighten your day, Tim:

Jordan Black is starting.

And not for us!

Frazod

09-04-2007, 10:07 AM

Here's something to brighten your day, Tim:

Jordan Black is starting.

And not for us!

Thanks, I needed that. :thumb:

JBucc

09-04-2007, 10:17 AM

Here's something to brighten your day, Tim:

Jordan Black is starting.

And not for us!
So Jimmy Wilkerson will lead the NFL in sacks after week one.

Logical

09-04-2007, 10:21 AM

Only by three, I think I need to get some of that action, Houston is a lock.

beach tribe

09-04-2007, 10:22 AM

Here's something to brighten your day, Tim:

Jordan Black is starting.

And not for us!
Yes!!! Now that, is god news.

DenverChief

09-04-2007, 10:23 AM

So Jimmy Wilkerson will lead the NFL in sacks after week one.

Eggzactly

LMAO

beach tribe

09-04-2007, 10:25 AM

Only by three, I think I need to get some of that action, Houston is a lock.
That sounds about right.

Don't forget to wear your good luck A.Green jersey.

OnTheWarpath15

09-04-2007, 10:28 AM

Here's something to brighten your day, Tim:

Jordan Black is starting.

And not for us!

Holy Jesus!

Really?

Did Ephraim Salaam die or something? Black had been buried at #3 on the depth chart all PS.

Great news for us if it's true.....

Mr. Laz

09-04-2007, 10:32 AM

because we've played like crap ..... we've looked terrible .... we showed very little improvement during preseason.

wins and losses don't matter ...... playing like crap does.

Nzoner

09-04-2007, 10:39 AM

wins and loses don't matter ...... playing like crap does.

That exact thing was covered on NFL Network yesterday about KC,0-4 doesn't mean anything,looking bad in all 4 games means everything.

Phobia

09-04-2007, 11:07 AM

Agreed. I'm not sure how long it will take for them to gel, but Schaub looks good...
Wait a minute. Schaub is a 3rd round pick. You don't start 3rd round picks at QB. He can't look good. They really need to go with a veteran.

Mr. Laz

09-04-2007, 11:15 AM

Wait a minute. Schaub is a 3rd round pick. You don't start 3rd round picks at QB. He can't look good. They really need to go with a veteran.
ROFL

htismaqe

09-04-2007, 11:34 AM

Wait a minute. Schaub is a 3rd round pick. You don't start 3rd round picks at QB. He can't look good. They really need to go with a veteran.

:clap:

HemiEd

09-04-2007, 11:53 AM

:clap:

What do you think of this Thigpen (sp) guy? Just maybe they consider him as their target QBOTF, and have already decided Brodie Croyle doesn't have it?

BigChiefFan

09-04-2007, 11:55 AM

If we lose to the Texans, I'm going to be very disappointed. It's gut check time for the team-no more ****ing excuses.

htismaqe

09-04-2007, 11:59 AM

What do you think of this Thigpen (sp) guy? Just maybe they consider him as their target QBOTF, and have already decided Brodie Croyle doesn't have it?

It's the Chiefs. There's no such thing as a QBotF.

htismaqe

09-04-2007, 12:00 PM

If we lose to the Texans, I'm going to be very disappointed. It's gut check time for the team-no more ****ing excuses.

Supposedly the New Orleans preseason game was a "wake up call".

Of course, we've had about two dozen or so "wake up call" games in the past 10 or so seasons, and yet we still sleepwalk through the preseason every year.

This team is nothing BUT excuses.

HemiEd

09-04-2007, 12:01 PM

It's the Chiefs. There's no such thing as a QBotF.

Hey, after only two decades, you can't give up so easily! :)

BigChiefFan

09-04-2007, 12:10 PM

Supposedly the New Orleans preseason game was a "wake up call".

Of course, we've had about two dozen or so "wake up call" games in the past 10 or so seasons, and yet we still sleepwalk through the preseason every year.

This team is nothing BUT excuses.Nothing ever seems to get done properly. We never have a balanced team. I mean NEVER. I'm sick of being perenial losers.

Mr. Laz

09-04-2007, 12:16 PM

If we lose to the Texans, I'm going to be very disappointed. It's gut check time for the team-no more ****ing excuses.
Chiefs fans have been saying this constantly for 20 years.

BigChiefFan

09-04-2007, 12:22 PM

Chiefs fans have been saying this constantly for 20 years.That's why I'm seriously considering making this my final year as a season ticket holder. I'm really tired of the half-assed approach every year. The only way we will win a Super Bowl is by dumb luck. Carl has shown he doesn't have what it takes to get the team over the hump and ownership is happy as long as the money rolls in. That's not condusive to winning it all. Until ownership shows some unbridaled enthusiaSM for WINNING THE sUPER bOWL, MY ENTHUSIASM WILL WANE.(GD caps lock, I'm Too lazy to re-do it)