How bad is Wiegmann??

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Seriously?? Talk about just getting your ass completely handed to you. This guy has gotten a weekly shit-kicking for the last two years now. Thanks for the memories, dude, but you are freaking terrible right now.

Watching him try and take on the Williams boys today was like watching Duran get beaten into retardation by Thomas Hearns.

[L.A. Chieffan]

He's been good for a long time. Sucks to see him get burned left and right

[ChiefaRoo]

Seriously?? Talk about just getting your ass completely handed to you. This guy has gotten a weekly shit-kicking for the last two years now. Thanks for the memories, dude, but you are freaking terrible right now.

Watching him try and take on the Williams boys today was like watching Duran get beaten into retardation by Thomas Hearns.

I agree. Next years draft will be interesting. KC needs three positions on the O-line. C, RG and RT. Welbourn looked poor at times as well.

[RustShack]

We almost need to go all out on the oline next year in the draft. I for one am for us dedicating the draft to entirely offense, with the exception of a early CB.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

For reference, the 1:44 mark in this vid:

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[ChiefaRoo]

We almost need to go all out on the oline next year in the draft. I for one am for us dedicating the draft to entirely offense, with the exception of a early CB.

KC really needs another impact WR. Maybe they can get one in Free agency.

[Wreckloose]

To be fair, the Williams boys are no easy assignment. But I agree.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

I agree. Next years draft will be interesting. KC needs three positions on the O-line. C, RG and RT. Welbourn looked poor at times as well.

Everyone to the right of Waters needs to the get the f*ck out of Dodge.



The thing that kills me is that we had Ryan Kalil for the taking in the second round. Turk seems like a nice kid, but I don't see him having the impact that Kalil would have for us.

[L.A. Chieffan]

Hearns was a badass

[macdawg]

'I for one am for us dedicating the draft to entirely offense, with the exception of a early CB.'

Agreed.

[ChiefaRoo]

Everyone to the right of Waters needs to the get the f*ck out of Dodge.



The thing that kills me is that we had Ryan Kalil for the taking in the second round. Turk seems like a nice kid, but I don't see him having the impact that Kalil would have for us.

I was thinking the same thing.

[boogblaster]

The Williams boys are about as tough D-line as your going to face..that said, yes Casey is getting long-in-the-tooth ....

[ChiefsCountry]

Everyone to the right of Waters needs to the get the f*ck out of Dodge.

The thing that kills me is that we had Ryan Kalil for the taking in the second round. Turk seems like a nice kid, but I don't see him having the impact that Kalil would have for us.

I wanted Marshal Yanda out of Iowa as either right guard or right tackle. Kahil would have been good as well.

[Tribal Warfare]

I agree. Next years draft will be interesting. KC needs three positions on the O-line. C, RG and RT. Welbourn looked poor at times as well.


LT should be added too

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Chiefs fans better really hope that Herb Taylor or Niswanger can step it up next year.

[RustShack]

KC really needs another impact WR. Maybe they can get one in Free agency.

If we have a really bad year and a high pick, I would love to see DeSean Jackson line up opposite of Dwayne Bowe.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

LT should be added too

Then it would be LT, RG, C, as McIntosh would move to the right side.

[ChiefaRoo]

If we have a really bad year and a high pick, I would love to see DeSean Jackson line up opposite of Dwayne Bowe.

If Brodie turns out to be a good QB then I think the priorities are something like this.

1) OT
2) RG
3) C
4) WR
5) DB

I don't think they'd draft this way though. Free agency would be good for an OT and Will Shields was drafted at OG in the 3rd. I think KC goes 6-10 or 7-9 and gets a good pick slot.

My dream scenario would be

1) OT - Free agent RT
2) RG - Free agent
3) WR - 1st round
4) C - 2nd round
5) DB - 3rd round

Depth and quality back ups in later rounds for MLB, Safety and FB (I love Boomer but yikes he's not even suiting up).

I'd trade Chris Wilson as I don't see him as the heir apparent to Tony G.

[RustShack]

I still don't think Welborn is all that bad, having a better C and RT would help him a little too. What sucks is all of these positions we get(if we draft them) most likely wont be first round talents.

[chuxtrux]

I blame this on Danni Boatwright.

[ChiefaRoo]

I still don't think Welborn is all that bad, having a better C and RT would help him a little too. What sucks is all of these positions we get(if we draft them) most likely wont be first round talents.

I don't know about Welbourn. He doesn't move all that well anymore and his strength is ok but not dominant since he's off the juice. He's getting old as well.

[ChiefsCountry]

Then it would be LT, RG, C, as McIntosh would move to the right side.

Thats what I was thinking, draft the stud LT and move McIntosh to right. I liked what I saw in Taylor in the preseason. I think he could be a pretty good guard.

[RustShack]

I don't know about Welbourn. He doesn't move all that well anymore and his strength is ok but not dominant since he's off the juice. He's getting old as well.

I'm all for a new line (besides Waters and McIntosh), it will probably take a couple years though, and we will have to live with some of the people we have and want replaced at least for another year or two.

[ChiefaRoo]

I think you can get a damn good center at the top of the 2nd round or the very bottom of the first. If KC tanks this year and only wins 5 games we'll have good placement. I don't know who the best Centers are though. I still like the idea of making the first round pick a skill position guy on Offense or a shutdown corner.

[RustShack]

Who knows what Herm will do, another WR would be bad ass though.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

The Top 14 Centers, as of now, per NFL Draft Countdown:

1. John Sullivan Notre Dame 6-4 290 4.95
2. Cody Wallace Texas A&M 6-4 294 5.25
3. Steve Justice Wake Forest 6-4 284 5.20
4. Kory Lichtensteiger Bowling Green 6-3 300 5.15
5. Mike Pollak Arizona St. 6-4 292 5.00
6. Doug Legursky Marshall 6-3 311 5.00
7. Eric Scott Kentucky 6-5 275 4.95
8. John Masters Michigan St. 6-4 288 5.25
9. Adam Spieker Missouri 6-3 305 5.15
10. Drew Miller Florida 6-5 304 5.25
11. Tony Brinkhaus Minnesota 6-3 295 5.25
12. Trevor Rees Northwestern 6-2 280 5.05
13. Jeff Cavender Boise St. 6-2 287 5.10
14. Robbie Krutilla Western Michigan 6-3 314 5.25


Given Herm's predilection for buttsex, we better get a center who is at least 290+ and strong as an ox.

[the Talking Can]

we'll have to sign a vet OL next year, don't think we can fix all our OL problems in the draft

[KC Jones]

Wiegmann is in his 14th year, yes I said 14th. Our O-line is ancient:

Turley - 9th season
Waters - 8th season (didn't start in 1st year and only started half the season in year 2)
Welbourn - 9th season
McIntosh - 8th season
Wiegmann - 14th season :eek: (although he didn't start the 1st 4 years)

That's some pretty high mileage.

[StcChief]

Wiegmann needs to give way to Rudy

[Easy 6]

I don't know about Welbourn. He doesn't move all that well anymore and his strength is ok but not dominant since he's off the juice. He's getting old as well.

I couldnt agree more.

All of the offseason talk about "he'll be an upgrade over the aging Shields" was a lot of hopelessly wishful thinking.

He cant shine Wills shoes & really, the whole line has gone soft...only able to do a decent job of pass-blocking. Since when has KC not been able to run???

OMG.

[Valiant]

Casey is just not made for Herm style of blocking.. Casey would still be a star in the Donk system.. We need fat/really strong guys for Herms system...

[petegz28]

Weigmann is too undersized for a power rushing team. He was great for all the pulling DV did though.

[bsp4444]

I agree that O-line should be addressed early and often, but if we don't get a high-end cornerback fairly early, we can look forward to Ty Law getting corkscrewed in the dirt, like he was yesterday on AP's TD run, all of next year. He is just too old to hang with the kids. He would make a wonderful safety for a team needing a cerebral type player.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

I agree that O-line should be addressed early and often, but if we don't get a high-end cornerback fairly early, we can look forward to Ty Law getting corkscrewed in the dirt, like he was yesterday on AP's TD run, all of next year. He is just too old to hang with the kids. He would make a wonderful safety for a team needing a cerebral type player.

Spending a high draft pick on a cornerback when you run a Cover 2 is about the dumbest thing you could possibly do.

Unless the value is just out of this world, I'd have a hard time parting with anything higher than a mid-late 2nd round pick on a CB.

[Mr. Laz]

wiegmann should of been replace ....... he doesn't belong in this style of offense. He is smallish and does great when you are asking him to pull and get out into space like when vermeil/saunders were here.

when you use a power running game ..... he's dog meat.


this was a huge mistake by the coaching staff and personal dept.