Rasslin is CHA CHA LA..LA,LA,LA,LA,LA

[Ultra Peanut]

Backlund, whoa. I just saw TNA put him over Alex Shelley AND Chris Sabin six months ago.

[kstater]

This is like a who's who of rejects.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Did anyone ever read that story about how Blackman kicked the shit out of someone else on the roster with a crescent kick at an airport?

[Mecca]

This is like a who's who of rejects.

That's the point......this has been a fun show though.

[Mecca]

Did anyone ever read that story about how Blackman kicked the shit out of someone else on the roster with a crescent kick at an airport?

HAHA that happened in KC, he got in a fight with JBL at the baggage claim and kicked the shit out of him.

[Ultra Peanut]

I wish they'd brought out Isaac Yankem!

This is like a who's who of rejects.Al Snow is not a reject you dirty son of a bitch!

['Hamas' Jenkins]

HAHA that happened in KC, he got in a fight with JBL at the baggage claim and kicked the shit out of him.
ROFL If anyone deserved it, it's JBL.

[HolmeZz]

:o Gangrel

[Ultra Peanut]

GANGREL HOLY ****!!!!!!!!!!!!!

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Gangrel straight from the director's chair of his latest porno.

[Ultra Peanut]

Oh my god, Scorpio!

SCOTTY IS BACK!!!!!!!!!

ANVIL!!!!

[Mecca]

Jim obviously got this gig by talking to his daughter.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

F*ck yes.

[Mecca]

I also like have several of the guys in this match have agent/trainer jobs with the WWE.....IRS, Skinner, Slaughter..

HAHA Gillberg.

[HolmeZz]

GILLLLLLLLLLLLLLBERG

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Randy Orton has fifteen chances to get himself over right now.

LOL @ Gillberg.

[Ultra Peanut]

Oh my.

Oh my.

[Mecca]

Apparently they are saving Sid for something good......he's backstage and hasn't been used yet.

[Ultra Peanut]

Backlund, nooooooo!

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Apparently they are saving Sid for something good......he's backstage and hasn't been used yet.

Hopefully he is reliving his turnbuckle spot from WCW Sin

[Chest Rockwell]

Apparently they are saving Sid for something good......he's backstage and hasn't been used yet.

Wonder how many people have told him "break a leg."

Wait...that Sid, I'm not paying much attention?

[Ultra Peanut]

Ha, the Goon needed help getting over.

[Mecca]

Hopefully he is reliving his turnbuckle spot from WCW Sin

That's harsh........they've had some talks of actually bringing him back to be a member of the roster. For everything about Sid the guy sure got over.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

This is Wrestlecrap heaven.

[Ultra Peanut]

Wonder how many people have told him "break a leg."

Wait...that Sid, I'm not paying much attention?That's the one.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

That's harsh........they've had some talks of actually bringing him back to be a member of the roster. For everything about Sid the guy sure got over.

All in good fun. I don't mind the guy at all. But when you've got a chance to poke fun a catastrophic injury, you do it.

[Ultra Peanut]

One more Worm.

This crowd is a breath of fresh air.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Ron Paul is PISSED. IRS Wins.

[Ultra Peanut]

I.R.

YEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSS

[Mecca]

Here comes the million dollar man.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

HAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHHAHAHAHAHAH

[Mecca]

All in good fun. I don't mind the guy at all. But when you've got a chance to poke fun a catastrophic injury, you do it.

He's been doing Indy stuff, I guess he moves around pretty good again.

[Ultra Peanut]

That was awesome!
*clap clap clapclapclap*

[HolmeZz]

Good spot.

[Ultra Peanut]

Wow, Shane was so skinny back then.

(Montreal!)

[Chest Rockwell]

Soooooo...I had no idea Bischoff was an albino.

Sweet.

[Mecca]

This has been pretty solid and there's still an hour left.

[Ultra Peanut]

I'm just going to pretend that Uncle Eric's going out there and announcing that WCW Thunder begins airing Wednesday night on TBS and that the WAR HAS BEGUN ANEW, okay?

How could they skip his music?!?!?!

[HolmeZz]

Rock ain't makin an appearance.

[Mecca]

The only 3 I know that won't be there are Rock who declined, Goldberg and Lesnar who they didn't even ask.

[Ultra Peanut]

Jericho and Eric, awesome. Full circle.

"Hey Eric, who's going to be the third member of the nWo?"

['Hamas' Jenkins]

An aside--

How do you book the title match this Sunday?

[Chest Rockwell]

Why is Jon Bon Jovi entering to Jericho's...oh...wait...nevermind.

[Mecca]

Well Hamas.....I know what their play is going into Mania if you wanna know....

[HolmeZz]

Why is Jon Bon Jovi entering to Jericho's...oh...wait...nevermind.

It's his life, it's now or never.

[Ultra Peanut]

That was a poem originally written by Heidenreich.

[Ultra Peanut]

"You know, this belt's pretty ugly. I don't really want it anymore. Here, Randy, take it."

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Well Hamas.....I know what their play is going into Mania if you wanna know....

Lay it on me...i have a feeling after that little bit Orton is going over on Sunday, most likely through nefarious means.

[Mecca]

Lay it on me...i have a feeling after that little bit Orton is going over on Sunday, most likely through nefarious means.

Orton goes over.....H goes over........H goes over Orton at Rumble. As of now the planned Mania mainevent is Batista turning heel and face H vs Heel Batista.

[Ultra Peanut]

Dweeeeem, thank you so much for booking ECW competently this past year!

Oh **** off, Holly.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Orton goes over.....H goes over........H goes over Orton at Rumble. As of now the planned Mania mainevent is Batista turning heel and face H vs Heel Batista.

So who does Batista drop the belt to? Edge?

That's f*cking awful, BTW. I hated that program 3 years ago, and I hate it now, and F#CK!! HHH gets his receipt from WM 21.

Cockf*ck :bang:

[Mecca]

I also think this crowd sucks......they hardly pop for Sunny yet chant for Hornswaggle?

['Hamas' Jenkins]

I missed the first hour and a half b/c my Tivo didn't record. I'll have to check the torrent sites after it finishes.

[Mecca]

So who does Batista drop the belt to? Edge?

That's f*cking awful, BTW. I hated that program 3 years ago, and I hate it now, and F#CK!! HHH gets his receipt from WM 21.

Cockf*ck :bang:

Yea Edge/Taker has been the Smackdown plan all along.......expect Taker to have it going in though so he isn't challenging 2 years in a row.

H is buds with Batista so who knows who's going over in the match.

[Ultra Peanut]

They be clubberin', if you wheel.

[Ultra Peanut]

GOD DAMNIT NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[Ultra Peanut]

Never put Jeff Jarrett on TV again!

[HolmeZz]

Shatner. ROFL

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Yea Edge/Taker has been the Smackdown plan all along.......expect Taker to have it going in though so he isn't challenging 2 years in a row.

H is buds with Batista so who knows who's going over in the match.

That's just awful, and regressive.

Awful.

Can HHH please tear another quad, now?

[Mecca]

That's just awful, and regressive.

Awful.

Can HHH please tear another quad, now?

Thank Kennedy for all of this......it was suppose to be him and H and when he got busted and suspended they had to change his being the son storyline.....then he injured Cena and this is where we're at.

[Ultra Peanut]

BULL NAKANO

[Mecca]

This show needs more Sunny...

[kstater]

It's not easy being a diva.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Thank Kennedy for all of this......it was suppose to be him and H and when he got busted and suspended they had to change his being the son storyline.....then he injured Cena and this is where we're at.

So you mean to tell me that Cena was going to drop the title to Kennedy?

That's ridiculous.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Trish--still built like a brick shithouse.

[HolmeZz]

mmmmstratusfaction

[Mecca]

So you mean to tell me that Cena was going to drop the title to Kennedy?

That's ridiculous.

Actually it was suppose to be H/Kennedy for the belt, the plans didn't involve Cena in either belt match.....but their backup of Cena vs whoever was spoiled to shit with his injury when facing Kennedy.

[Ultra Peanut]

Trish, mincing words.

[Mecca]

And now Lita.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Actually it was suppose to be H/Kennedy for the belt, the plans didn't involve Cena in either belt match.....but their backup of Cena vs whoever was spoiled to shit with his injury when facing Kennedy.

Yeah, but for it to be H/Kennedy, Cena would have to drop the belt to heel Kennedy. That's f*cking awful.

[HolmeZz]

ROLL THE FOOTAGE MONKEYS

[Ultra Peanut]

And now Lita.This is such a feel-good Raw.

Also, Heenan is still a god.

[Ultra Peanut]

CHRISTIAN COME BACK PLEAAASSSSSEEEE

"He's single, fellas." LMAO

The Rock and Sock Connection was amazing.

[Mecca]

At least they didn't send Lita out in a horrible note like they did at SS last year.

[Ultra Peanut]

I AM NOT A NUGGET!!!!!!!!

:(

[Mecca]

I think it's pretty obvious Vince will name himself...the best Raw superstar.

[HolmeZz]

Bret Hart's gonna be the greatest superstar right?

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Surely the greatest superstar will be Big Poppa Pump.

[Ultra Peanut]

Bret Hart's gonna be the greatest superstar right?That would be the best swerve ever. Even Russo would swear off swerves after that, knowing it couldn't be topped.

[Ultra Peanut]

Surely the greatest superstar will be Big Poppa Pump.HUH

[HolmeZz]

Billy and Chuck.

[HolmeZz]

How did they not show Billy and Chuck? >:o

[Mecca]

Lita's rockin new tattoos.

[HolmeZz]

Kane's a pimp. Pimp Kane.

[alanm]

Lita's rockin new tattoos.
She's put some weight on. She looks good.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Hopefully MVP is main-eventing 'Mania next year.

[Ultra Peanut]

That was wonderful. The continuity on this show has been really fun.

How did they not show Billy and Chuck? >:oThat was Smackdown, apparently.

[Mecca]

Chris Benoit is here and he's really mad, Chris Benoit is here and he's really............nevermind.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

She's put some weight on. She looks good.

Agreed.

[Mecca]

So I got the last segment as Vince naming himself the greatest superstar and then out comes Austin.

[Mecca]

Agreed.

As the smarkish and well general wrestling fans go "but she's a slut" like they wouldn't hit it....

Hell I would and I fully admit to it.

[Ultra Peanut]

Yes, Rockers music!

Chris Benoit is here and he's really mad, Chris Benoit is here and he's really............nevermind.LMAO

:deevee:

['Hamas' Jenkins]

As the smarkish and well general wrestling fans go "but she's a slut" like they wouldn't hit it....

Hell I would and I fully admit to it.

Hell I'd probably even bang Jillian, and her face is a wreck.

[alanm]

As the smarkish and well general wrestling fans go "but she's a slut" like they wouldn't hit it....

Hell I would and I fully admit to it.
Without a doubt. :p

[Mecca]

Hell I'd probably even bang Jillian, and her face is a wreck.

She has tremendous fake fun bags and she can wear a lot of makeup so it's all good man.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Michaels runs like Andre the Giant.

[HolmeZz]

Marty's getting his ass kicked and laughing. He's just happy to be there.

[Mecca]

Michaels runs like Andre the Giant.

He runs like he has the worst knees in the history of the planet.

[FAX]

Well, that didn't work out very well. I was watching rasslin' when the beautiful and witty Mrs. FAX came home for dinner. She promptly turned the channel and said that rasslin' sucks (or words to that effect).

I'm going to have to watch rasslin' in secret, now.

FAX

[Ultra Peanut]

Where'd Jannetty go?!

[Ultra Peanut]

Well, that didn't work out very well. I was watching rasslin' when the beautiful and witty Mrs. FAX came home for dinner. She promptly turned the channel and said that rasslin' sucks (or words to that effect).

I'm going to have to watch rasslin' in secret, now.

FAXWe're here for you, buddy.

[HolmeZz]

Where'd Jannetty go?!

His cot under the ring.

[Mecca]

Well, that didn't work out very well. I was watching rasslin' when the beautiful and witty Mrs. FAX came home for dinner. She promptly turned the channel and said that rasslin' sucks (or words to that effect).

I'm going to have to watch rasslin' in secret, now.

FAX

Put your foot down and show her who the boss is....

[HolmeZz]

Austin still hasn't showed.

[Ultra Peanut]

TNA's like, "Oh, Vince totally just mentioned us there when he said 'impact.'"

[Mecca]

So he says himself, Austin comes out.....this is real difficult to spot.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

I'm stunned.

[Mecca]

Oh wait like 10 people have to come out first.....then Austin comes out.

[Ultra Peanut]

FOLEY HAS MERCHANDISE TO MOVE DAMNIT

[HolmeZz]

Figured Mick hadn't appeared yet.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Foley is in awful, awful shape.

[Ultra Peanut]

Taker-Mankind A Billion! LET'S DO THIS!

['Hamas' Jenkins]

We could have a 45 minute overrun if Taker takes his full entrance.

[Ultra Peanut]

^^^^^^ I HHHHHHHATE YOU!!!!!! GIT!

Wait, I thought this was going to be three hours, not four. If Taker's coming out, that means the overrun is at least thirty minutes.

[Chest Rockwell]

Taker-Mankind A Billion! LET'S DO THIS!

Hey, as long as Mick still has a toof in his mouf (or nose), it ain't over...

[HolmeZz]

McMahon's gonna get clawed, tombstoned, stunned, and sharpshootered.

[Mecca]

Taker is beating up Vince for not giving his GF, Michelle McCool a bigger push.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Taker is beating up Vince for not giving his GF, Michelle McCool a bigger push.

Taker divorced his wife?

Interesting.

Michelle McCool is hot as f*ck, BTW.

[Mecca]

McMahon's gonna get clawed, tombstoned, stunned, and sharpshootered.

Bret declined being there when asked.

[HolmeZz]

Bret declined being there when asked.

I wouldn't want to visit Bridgeport, Connecticut either.

[Mecca]

Taker divorced his wife?

Interesting.

Michelle McCool is hot as f*ck, BTW.

Yea he's with McCool now and she's loving life!

If you notice all the pics of him on WWE.com his Sara tattoo on his neck is airbrushed out.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Bret declined being there when asked.


He's a man of his word.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

He'sa gonna open up a can of the Ass Whip so'a big.

[Ultra Peanut]

You'd think the censors would have gone to bed by now.

[Ultra Peanut]

Bret declined being there when asked.SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP

[Mecca]

He'sa gonna open up a can of the Ass Whip so'a big.

A can of ass whip?

[Mecca]

This crowd has totally sucked.....they didn't pop for anyone other than Hornswaggle and Austin.

[Chest Rockwell]

I never thought I'd see Austin spooning Vince...this is creepy.

[Ultra Peanut]

Heenan bless us, every one of us!

[Ultra Peanut]

GOD DAMNIT THEY'RE BURYING PUNK AGAIN!!!!!!!!

[Mecca]

Sunny put on a dress for this.

[HolmeZz]

mmmmickie

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Mickey is so hot.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

WTF is Regal drinking Coke?

[Mecca]

Triple H just poured beer on Mickie James...

[Ultra Peanut]

Wrestling is such a shady, ****ed-up business.

But that was oddly heartwarming.

[Mecca]

Punk chugging a beer out there was funny.....even though it's non alcoholic beer...

[Ultra Peanut]

WTF is Regal drinking Coke?sXe

['Hamas' Jenkins]

sXe

ROFL

[Mecca]

That may have been a Pepsi can because it does resemble those beer cans now.....

But if no one realizes it CM Punk is gonna take some shit now...CM Fraud signs to come.

[dirk digler]

I thought it was a good show but I was really hoping the Rock would come back just one more time

[Mecca]

I don't think the Rock is ever coming back.

[dirk digler]

I don't think the Rock is ever coming back.

I know and it kind of pisses me off. If it wasn't for the WWF and wrestling no one would know who Dwayne Johnson is.

[Mecca]

Can't really say I blame the guy, he's shooting movies he can't just leave on a whim....

He makes more money to do less, and if the WWE hadn't pushed him to do movies it wouldn't have happened. It's partially their fault...

[dirk digler]

Can't really say I blame the guy, he's shooting movies he can't just leave on a whim....

He makes more money to do less, and if the WWE hadn't pushed him to do movies it wouldn't have happened. It's partially their fault...

I don't either except that I think he could show up for events like this. It is a one time event and he was really the only superstar besides Cena not to be there.

[Ultra Peanut]

I don't either except that I think he could show up for events like this. It is a one time event and he was really the only superstar besides Cena not to be there.Well, Cena, dead folks, and the world's biggest Bret Hart mark.

[dirk digler]

Well, Cena, dead folks, and the world's biggest Bret Hart mark.

Oh yeah I forgot about Bret Hart. Thanks.

[Mecca]

I could name tons of guys who weren't there....

If they had been doing the show in Miami or LA the Rock may have done it.

[unothadeal]

At least Anvil was there.






















I guess.

[dirk digler]

I could name tons of guys who weren't there....

If they had been doing the show in Miami or LA the Rock may have done it.

Major superstars like who? I am not talking about jobbers.

[Mecca]

Let's see......

Randy Savage, Goldberg, Lesnar........the WWE doesn't want those guys there...anyone who works for TNA.

[dirk digler]

Let's see......

Randy Savage, Goldberg, Lesnar........the WWE doesn't want those guys there...anyone who works for TNA.

Was Savage ever on Raw? Hell I don't know. I don't think Goldberg wants anything to do with the WWE and I don't know about Lesnar.

Of course the TNA guys don't count

[BigRock]

I know and it kind of pisses me off. If it wasn't for the WWF and wrestling no one would know who Dwayne Johnson is.
Dave Meltzer says Rock turned down the invite because he's not currently making any public appearances before he starts work on his next movie.

Hey, Rock: nlm

He also said they tried everything possible to get Bret Hart there, but he had conflicts with his the publicity tour for his book. The ending they wanted was for Bret to be the final guy to beat up Vince.

And re: the earlier talk of Wrestlemania, Cena's opponent was supposed to be Batista.

[Reaper16]

The various boards are blowing up over Punk "drinking a beer" when it HAD to have been a Pepsi, right? Screenshots are in high demand right now.

[Mecca]

The WWE didn't even contact Goldberg or Lesnar....

Savage was on Raw...Raw started in 92 he wasn't gone till like 95 or 96....the WWE seems to have a serious issue with ever doing anything that involves him.

[jlscorpio]

wow, Sunny looks old...I'd still hit it though

[Mr. Flopnuts]

That bit with Edge and Christian with Christian on the party horn and Edge rappin "You think you know me, You think you know me." LMAO Classic.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Savage was a commentator on Raw for a while, wasn't he?

[Mr. Flopnuts]

The WWE didn't even contact Goldberg or Lesnar....

Savage was on Raw...Raw started in 92 he wasn't gone till like 95 or 96....the WWE seems to have a serious issue with ever doing anything that involves him.


He seems Ultimate Warrior type weird. The rap album, there's other examples, but I'm too stoned to think of them currently. Vince has always stayed away from those guys. You don't see X-Pac, Chyna, none of the nutbags. Randy would hurt their image at this stage, plus I'd bet he'd be difficult to work with now as much as then.

[Mecca]

I personally don't think they touch him cause he and Hogan hate each other and they work with Hogan for the most part...

Chyna's a drug head.........they actually offered Xpac a contract to come back and 1 point, he could if he wanted. He said he doesn't think he can do that schedule anymore.

[Mr. Flopnuts]

I personally don't think they touch him cause he and Hogan hate each other and they work with Hogan for the most part...

Chyna's a drug head.........they actually offered Xpac a contract to come back and 1 point, he could if he wanted. He said he doesn't think he can do that schedule anymore.


I had no idea Waltman had been invited back. I figured we'd see him when they brought back Degen X. I figured Road Dogg would be back too. Didn't he get fired for smoking pot? That was what I heard. I'm pretty sure he's in TNA now? I haven't watched for a while, just kind of getting back into it since Y2J came back. It's just not as good as it used to be. As far as Randy goes, he was a star in his own right, but he could never touch Hulk, you can't blame Vince for making that pick if it's what it came down too.

[Mecca]

Road Dogg and Billy Gunn are in TNA...they weren't and likely will never be invited back because of comments they made in a shoot after leaving.

Saying things like "HHH is a no good mother****er" "If I ever saw him again I'd kick his ****in ass" "I'd like to splatter his big nose across his face"

They basically ruined any chance of ever coming back, it was discussed then they found out about that and the idea was dropped.

[Ultra Peanut]

I'm just gonna post this here because I've seen it a few times now, and every single time I lose my shit because it's so absurd.

"Chavo Jr. & Animal beat Misterio Jr. & Kidman. Schiavone was waiting all day for the line talking about Misterio Jr. wrestling in Mexico, and then said, Mexico is bordered to the south by Guatemala, not Nicaragua, as everybody knows. For the other three million viewers who don't have any idea why he said this, it's because 11 years ago, there was this guy who did a wrestling newsletter named Steve Beverly who had the ear of a guy at TBS named Jeff Carr. Carr made the call that WCW Saturday Night should only have one host, and it was Ross. Schiavone was so mad he went to the WWF for several years. He's hated Beverly ever since. Anyway, last week on 'Who Wants to be a Millionaire', a contestant was asked what country bordered Mexico to the south and called Beverly for a lifeline and Beverly said Nicaragua and his friend hesitated, but went with Beverly's pick, and was wrong." - The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: February 05, 2001

[Ultra Peanut]

GOD DAMNIT TNA

Additionally, the choice to use Eric Young as the replacement partner in the Turning Point main event was made by Jeff Jarrett. Some considered using Jarrett himself in the spot but he wants to save his return for a built-up PPV in 2008. Joe apparently suggested Homicide but the notion was overturned, although Homicide was under the impression that it was going to go ahead and he got quite upset with management when he found out otherwise.I HATE YOU I HATE YOU

[Swanman]

GOD DAMNIT TNA

I HATE YOU I HATE YOU

Notorious 187 needs to go back to ROH.

[Ultra Peanut]

Homicide, Christopher Daniels, and Low-Ki were THE three guys who would have made perfect sense coming out after Joe's great promo.

So of course, they go a completely different, completely retarded direction instead.

[Mecca]

None of those guys are going back to ROH unless they have no choice, they make more money in TNA.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Ok.


List who you would like to see in the main events of WM XXIV and why. Try and keep it realistic--active stars and face/heel alignments taken into perspective.

[jlscorpio]

is Lesnar considered active? heel Lesnar vs Y2J

[Mecca]

Lesnar is never coming back...

[BigRock]

Brock Lesnar is with UFC now. His first fight is in February.

[Sfeihc]

Undertaker vs. Edge for the strap. I think mecca knows the inside dope on the WM main events.

[HolmeZz]

Undertaker vs. Edge for the strap. I think mecca knows the inside dope on the WM main events.

Dope being the operative word.

[Ultra Peanut]

Main Main Event: CM Punk vs. Elijah Burke vs. John Morrison!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Main Event #2: Taker-Edge, streaks and WHC on the line because the whole "Taker winning and then laying the belt in the ring" thing would be amazing

Main Event #3: WWE title match, Heel Jericho vs. Heel HBK vs. Youmanga with Mike Tyson and Dennis Rodman as special guest referees

[Mecca]

Dope being the operative word.

Har har.......

[Reaper16]

Main Event #2: Taker-Edge, streaks and WHC on the line because the whole "Taker winning and then laying the belt in the ring" thing would be amazing

That would be great. Taker just leaving the belt in the ring would be the best retirement in history.

My unrealistic desires:

Punk v Burke 2/3 Falls

Jericho v MVP

Morrison v Jeff Hardy Ladder Match

[Mecca]

Taker vs Edge is the plan for the Smackdown mainevent....

[Mecca]

Of all the stars from the past who made cameo appearances on Monday night's 15th Eaw Anniversary show, Tammy 'Sunny' Sytch looks to have the best chance of landing a job in World Wrestling Entertainment (besides the likes of Trish Stratus and Rob Van Dam obviously)

Backstage at the show, Johnny Ace asked Sytch for her contact information. They talked with her about doing some segments with WWE 24/7. However it is not known at this time if they'd like her back as a member of the roster.

wrestling observer newsletter

[BigRock]

That would be great. Taker just leaving the belt in the ring would be the best retirement in history.
Maybe this is assumed, but it's gotta have Taker vanshing, IMO. Like he wins the belt, does that thing where he drops to one knee and holds it up, then the lights go out. And when they come back up, Taker's gone and the belt is laying there.

And I know it doesn't really count, but I can't imagine anything ever beating Macho Man's retirement at WM7 where he reunited with Elizabeth. This would be close, though.

[Mr. Flopnuts]

Usually when a wrestler retires, they have their ass handed to them in their last match. I was at Wrestlemania when Rock demolished Stone Cold. Why would Undertaker be any different? I know he's different, the question is, why would they change this for him? Everything I've ever read, is it's better for the wrestler, and the business for him to get beat down like a donkey in his last match.

[Ultra Peanut]

**** this Taker talk. FUNAKI IS BACK!

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Maybe this is assumed, but it's gotta have Taker vanshing, IMO. Like he wins the belt, does that thing where he drops to one knee and holds it up, then the lights go out. And when they come back up, Taker's gone and the belt is laying there..

I honestly think that's bullshit, because it totally devalues the belt. The next guy to win it will be seen as a paper champion because he didn't go over UT.

Of course, I can't really stand the Undertaker because he's put over fewer people than Hogan, and fancies himself as some kind of lockerroom Rommel, but that's probably another argument for another time.

[unothadeal]

devalues the belt.
ROFL ROFL ROFL

[Ultra Peanut]

DAMN YOU FRAN FRASCHILLA IT'S NOT FAKE BLOOD IT'S REAL BLOOD DO YOUR DAMN RESEARCH

['Hamas' Jenkins]

ROFL ROFL ROFL

Sorry dude, but perception is all you have in pro wrestling. It's hard to get anyone over as champ if the fans don't buy him as a legit threat, and how would he do that if he didn't win the title?

[unothadeal]

Sorry dude, but perception is all you have in pro wrestling. It's hard to get anyone over as champ if the fans don't buy him as a legit threat, and how would he do that if he didn't win the title?
A tournament.

[Reaper16]

A tournament.
King of the Ring 2k8, baby!

[Ultra Peanut]

Ah, WWE. Taking a page from TNA. That's smart.

[Mecca]

Ah, WWE. Taking a page from TNA. That's smart.

Elaborate since I'm not watching it...I don't pay for wrestling.

[Ultra Peanut]

From what I gather, they did something like the HBK "chin music to the timekeeper" spot in having Jericho go after Orton but hit JBL. This apparently pissed off JBL, so JBL kicked Jericho in the head while he had the Walls on and Orton ready to tap.

I tried to say, "Hey, there's no conspiracy to bury Jericho," but having him put on a great match with Orton for the title only for an announcer to interfere to SET UP A FEUD WITH SAID ANNOUNCER, well... what the hell else could that be? Who gave that stupid shit the green light?

From "I'm here to save us!" to an angle featuring a guy from another ****ing show in the span of a month.

Not to mention that JBL's incredibly entertaining on the mic, but he looked like shit two weeks ago for the APA reunion. And now Tazz is calling the main event with Cole. ****.

[Mecca]

Oh I knew that Jericho/JBL thing was coming.....JBL attacked Jericho at the tribute to the troops show which hasn't aired yet.

[Ultra Peanut]

I knew that, too, but it was still a completely retarded way to handle it.

Perfect "everybody loses" booking.

[Mecca]

I knew that, too, but it was still a completely retarded way to handle it.

Perfect "everybody loses" booking.

They're more worried about getting HHH into the Mania mainevent since he missed last years.

[dirk digler]

From what I gather, they did something like the HBK "chin music to the timekeeper" spot in having Jericho go after Orton but hit JBL. This apparently pissed off JBL, so JBL kicked Jericho in the head while he had the Walls on and Orton ready to tap.

I tried to say, "Hey, there's no conspiracy to bury Jericho," but having him put on a great match with Orton for the title only for an announcer to interfere to SET UP A FEUD WITH SAID ANNOUNCER, well... what the hell else could that be? Who gave that stupid shit the green light?

From "I'm here to save us!" to an angle featuring a guy from another ****ing show in the span of a month.

Not to mention that JBL's incredibly entertaining on the mic, but he looked like shit two weeks ago for the APA reunion. And now Tazz is calling the main event with Cole. ****.

Yeah that is pretty stupid. They pretty much ruined Jericho's save us campaign after 1 match. How can they be this stupid.

Oh well at least Hardy won so I guess he will win at the next PPV.

[Mecca]

Yeah that is pretty stupid. They pretty much ruined Jericho's save us campaign after 1 match. How can they be this stupid.

Oh well at least Hardy won so I guess he will win at the next PPV.

Because Jericho has and has always had people in the office that don't think he's anything more than a nice upper card player and not a maineventer.....

One of them has 3 H's in his name...H is purposely going out of his way to put Hardy over because he thinks Jeff Hardy is more deserving of that spot than Jericho is.......

[Ultra Peanut]

HAHAHAHA, Edge just rang the bell while Taker had Batista in the triangle choke.

[dirk digler]

Because Jericho has and has always had people in the office that don't think he's anything more than a nice upper card player and not a maineventer.....

One of them has 3 H's in his name...H is purposely going out of his way to put Hardy over because he thinks Jeff Hardy is more deserving of that spot than Jericho is.......

Then why have this whole save us campaign? It makes no sense.

[Ultra Peanut]

Three Edges. Holy ****ing shit, this is the greatest.

[Mecca]

The Raw planned mainevent is HHH vs Batista for Mania so expect something to happen to get it to that..

[BigRock]

Because Jericho has and has always had people in the office that don't think he's anything more than a nice upper card player and not a maineventer.....
Which this big return was a perfect opportunity to disprove.

Instead:

http://img260.imageshack.us/img260/9071/cookiemonster1ai4.jpg

[keg in kc]

Like it or not, Jericho hasn't been over, his return speech the obvious exception. I didn't think he was going to win today, and it played out the way pretty much everyone expected. He's back in the midcard now, hopefully with a slower build rather than a burial. And he did have a virtual pin (or tapout) tonight, rather than straight up losing to Orton, so he's shown to the unwashed masses that he's capable of beating the champion, so he's still theoretically in the title picture.

He and JBL could be entertaining, too. At least on the mic.

I'm wondering if they won't take Jericho heel eventually.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

The Raw planned mainevent is HHH vs Batista for Mania so expect something to happen to get it to that..

You were already wrong about Armageddon. Hardy went over HHH, albeit in as unimpressive of fashion as possible. (You can't truly say HHH gave him *any* rub in that match...he even acted like it was a joke afterwards).

Again, I told you that you can't trust those dirt sheets all the time.

It may be HHH vs. Batista, but as of now, it sure as shit looks like HHH v. Orton.

Hardy gets a token shot at the rumble, loses, HHH wins the rumble, and beats Orton at WM 24

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Yeah that is pretty stupid. They pretty much ruined Jericho's save us campaign after 1 match. How can they be this stupid.

Oh well at least Hardy won so I guess he will win at the next PPV.

No way Hardy goes over Orton at RR. That would lead to too many title switches prior to WM.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

From what I gather, they did something like the HBK "chin music to the timekeeper" spot in having Jericho go after Orton but hit JBL. This apparently pissed off JBL, so JBL kicked Jericho in the head while he had the Walls on and Orton ready to tap.

I tried to say, "Hey, there's no conspiracy to bury Jericho," but having him put on a great match with Orton for the title only for an announcer to interfere to SET UP A FEUD WITH SAID ANNOUNCER, well... what the hell else could that be? Who gave that stupid shit the green light?

From "I'm here to save us!" to an angle featuring a guy from another ****ing show in the span of a month.

Not to mention that JBL's incredibly entertaining on the mic, but he looked like shit two weeks ago for the APA reunion. And now Tazz is calling the main event with Cole. ****.

Actually, Orton chucked Jericho into JBL, and then as he was going after Orton, he shoved JBL out of the way. As soon as you saw the look on JBL's face, you knew it was going to happen.

I'm just pissed because sans run-ins or DQs, that was going to be a ****+ match. I know a lot of people don't like Orton, but he can really bring it as a heel. He did some great psychology last night, and the look and shimmy he did after he RKO'd Jericho is definitely Ultra Peanut .gif quality material.

[HolmeZz]

The word of the day is: Temerity.

[HolmeZz]

Ah, the JBL angle was a ploy to get Y2J on Smackdown.

Or maybe not.

[Mecca]

JBL is treated as if he was Steve Austin by this company...

[Coach]

Kyle Orton isn't doing too bad....

Oh wait.... a different Orton eh?

Never mind.

[jlscorpio]

has the

[jlscorpio]

belt EVER changed hands at the Rumble?

['Hamas' Jenkins]

belt EVER changed hands at the Rumble?


Cena over Edge in '06.

[Ultra Peanut]

Okay, screw it. The JerichoBL feud is going to be great.

And holy shit, Punk vs. MVP!

Also, "An Italian, and a Colombian! And you love to, how you say, swap spit with men who don't want to be cool!"

Temerity.

[Ultra Peanut]

And holy shit, Punk vs. MVP!( i am so am excited :-) )

[Reaper16]

( i am so am excited :-) )
oh wow like me too :-D

[keg in kc]

KICKING OFF THE NEW YEAR GAUNTLET STYLE:

[Ultra Peanut]

KICKING OFF THE NEW YEAR GAUNTLET STYLE:I was going to post that, but then I decided not to inflict anyone else with brain damage.

I hate TNA.

[Ultra Peanut]

Shelton squashed one of the Olsen Twins from CHIKARA. Wow.

[Ultra Peanut]

He got the tunnel. ECW is straight-up BALLLLLLLINNNNN'!

Both of these guys are better than you.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

That opening match between Miz and Morrison and Wang and Moore was a damn good TV match.

UP, what did you think of the HHH-Hardy match? I saw one guy give it ****; Quite frankly, I thought that match was horrendous.

[HolmeZz]

Almost saw some C.M. Penis.

[Ultra Peanut]

God damnit. DQ finishes for ignoring the ref are ridiculously annoying, especially when they happen so ****ing much on ECW.

Chavito?!

[HolmeZz]

Well at least they didn't compound the DQ finish by having someone completely random interfere afterwards.

[Mecca]

Chavo doesn't like people who are drug free......

[Ultra Peanut]

On the bright side, I eagerly await an actual Punk-MVP feud at some point in the future. Those guys are so, so good, and they could develop some phenomenal chemistry if given the chance.

Chavo doesn't like people who are drug free......Hahahahaha.

Seriously, though, outside of Stinko Malenko coming out of retirement, an angle with Chavo's as close as Punk's going to get to being able to wrestle Benoit.

http://i9.tinypic.com/6l159g6.jpg

[Ultra Peanut]

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[Swanman]

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There were some Chikara guys in a six-man match at a recent ROH show in Chicago, and they did a great job. The Chikara guys in the match were Mike Quackenbush, Jigsaw, Hallowicked and Gran Akuma. They all did a great job and a few of them have full-time gigs with ROH now. Jigsaw's going to be a star.

[Ultra Peanut]

Quack is great.

Also, in (pre-Mr.) McMahon's defense, the Mid-South Coliseum was pretty stanky.

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[Reaper16]

I'm still ticked off at the Punk/MVP match. Crappy end that was made 10x worse by the Chavo run-in. WTF?

[Ultra Peanut]

I'm not even 30 minutes in, and I'm already unable to continue watching iMPACT!. Jesus Christ, TNA is worthless, even as background noise.

[Ultra Peanut]

From the Observer:

12/21/2007 12:03:00 AM

THAT SHOW WAS WRETCHED

Sorry, I had to vent, although the ladder match was cool before AJ had to wear the Rudolph costume.

[Ultra Peanut]

They should have sent a poet.

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[TrickyNicky]

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Watch for Hansen killing Tenryu with a good ol' fashioned western lariat, Dr Death with the nastiest backdrop ever, and Scott Steiner's holy**** move, the screwdriver. Soooo sick.

[unothadeal]

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[Ultra Peanut]

ARE WE TALKING ABOUT DOCTOR NASH, THE SHRINK IN THE SPEEDO RHYNO OFF THE WAGON NO WAIT HE'S BACK ON NUMBERS GAME NUMBERS GAME MIKE TENAY WE CAN'T FORGET THE NUMBERS GAME IT'S AN ARM NO WAIT IT'S TWO ARMS THAT'S THE WORST THING I'VE EVER SEEN THAT'S KILLER SPELLED BACKWARDS HAPPY ENDING NO WE CAN'T STOP YELLING THAT'S HOW WE DO COMMENTARY NOW TO THE BACK WITH JB JEREMY BORASH

['Hamas' Jenkins]

AND THAT's NOT THE ONLY PLACE I'M GONNA KICK HIM!!

[keg in kc]

It's some good TV watching this week's impact with the script in hand.

[Ultra Peanut]

I... I couldn't do it. I avoided even recording that shit this week.

On the other hand, Colin Olsen was on ECW again! Awesome!

[keg in kc]

I've made it through hour 1. I'm about to plunge headlong into hour 2.

As is always the case with TNA, most of the wrestling is good. And they need to drop all the f*cking wretched angles.

Hey, at least the MMG are Tag Title no 1 contenders now. Until Sunday probably, when they'll doubtless be somehow humiliated by the Fat Dudleys and Johnny Devine.

[Ultra Peanut]

The wrestling's good, but the matches are either four minutes long or hacked to bits by commercials (not to mention the unbearably bad commentary), so I never actually enjoy watching them. TNA's just... pathetic.

****ing pathetic.

[keg in kc]

The commentary may be the worst ever.

It's almost enough to make me like Michael Cole.

Almost.

[OmahaChief]

I actually prefer TNA at this point. I got tired of the WWE and every match ending with a DQ. Too many big ego so no one really ever wins or losses cleanly anymore. I was a WCW man for the longest time and when they went away I stopped watching for a few years. I think the pure wrestling is much better in TNA but the mic work is generally better in WWE. I also like the angles a bit better in TNA. The whole Vince's bastard son thing was one of the dumbest story lines ever, combined with their retard story line and that is what WWE has come to.

[Ultra Peanut]

I actually prefer TNA at this point. Well, that's kind of strange, b-

I got tired of... every match ending with a DQ. WHAT THE FUCK

[Ultra Peanut]

IT WAS CHARLIE HAAS ALL ALONG!!!!

I want the perfect Quinceañera. :sulk:

[Coach]

Well, that's kind of strange, b-

WHAT THE FUCK

Careful. Skipping through the filter could be pushing it.

[jlscorpio]

I think TNA has better young wrestlers. How old is Samoa Joe?

[Ultra Peanut]

Santino is my favorite part of Raw.

[unothadeal]

Santino is my favorite part of Raw.
You'a smell'a like'a spinach'a

[Ultra Peanut]

Colin Olsen is my favorite part of ECW.

[keg in kc]

TNA ruined Samoa Joe. He went from being an unbeatable force to Kurt Angle ending his streak in a meaningless match to a whiny "babyface" that the fans hate so much that they cheer "thank you Tomko" when he loses a tag team match against heels where his partner leaves him to fight 1 on 2.

Apparently the only good feud they've had going, Gail Kim versus Kong, ends tonight with Kong getting the belt finally. They'll ruin Kong the same way they ruined Joe, just give them time.

And AJ Styles? Christ. He's gone from being "Phenominal" to being a running gag. Best guy in the whole company turned into a joke heel.

Everything and everybody in that company is the same. Every "contender" for the belt, just a guy. No stars. Nobody dominant. Every tag team, a couple of guys who can't get along.

It's a joke.

TNA is so bad it's unwatchable now.

Thank god for ROH, that's all I have to say.

[Ultra Peanut]

Samoa "Big, fat, stupid, dumb dummy dumb face" Joe. It's amazing how horribly they handled Joe-Angle and, over time, reduced both of them to utter insignificance.

I actually enjoy AJ's retarded manchild character, but in true TNA fashion, they've taken that and ruined the world title picture with it. God forbid they just have ONE ****ING WORLD TITLE MATCH THAT ENDS DECISIVELY. EVER.