Rasslin is CHA CHA LA..LA,LA,LA,LA,LA

[Mav]

Best Raw in YEARS tonight. Great great raw. Now we get to see Vince McMahon flip out about Daniel Bryan hahahahaha.

[dirk digler]

This is one of the greatest matches I have seen in..well forever

[Captain Obvious]

This is one of the greatest matches I have seen in..well forever

THIS

[58kcfan89]

This is one of the greatest matches I have seen in..well forever

Summerslam spoilers be below.

Not sure if this was referencing Brock-Punk or Cena-Bryan, but I thought both of those were awesome matches. Brock-Punk was better from beginning to end but Bryan getting the big win was cool as hell to watch.

I think Orton is pretty much garbage and was pissed when he won MITB but called this exact ending almost a month ago with my friend. Orton becomes a big corporate heel & everyone can get mega behind Bryan while he chases the title and (I'm assuming) Cena takes time off.

Not sure if Punk's taking time off (I doubt it, dude's a freaking workaholic but he seems kinda banged up), but I'm glad Lesnar got the win. I'm a huge Punk mark, but Brock needs some legitimacy and Punk won't be hurt by the loss. You can be the biggest, baddest dude ever (which Lesnar may very well be), but if you're not winning matches, eventually you're going to look like a blowhard. The match was ****ing awesome, too.

Solid show for the most part. RVD-Ambrose should have been on the main card instead of that craptastic divas match, but until they give RVD his own reality show (which I would love), I guess that's too much to ask.

Bray Wyatt could be huge. I know the match itself wasn't much (I don't think it was supposed to be), but I love his character.

Love Sandow, too. Think he needs to be build up a bit more before he cashes in MITB, but I'm a big fan. Rhodes is alright, I don't love him or hate him.

Don't really care about Del Rio or Christian. I'm over both of them TBH. Good workers but I'm just not into either guy.

For the first time in awhile, I'm interested in where they go from here all across the board. I hate Orton, but I think Bryan solidified himself as a legit main eventer tonight, which is totally awesome.

[Captain Obvious]

I'm not sure how Bryan can get more over than he already is.

[58kcfan89]

I'm not sure how Bryan can get more over than he already is.

Little kids can't root for Cena if he's not there. If he takes time off to fix that elbow, maybe they get in Bryan's corner, too. I dunno.

Just glad to see him be at his best in a big match situation. Hope they keep him in & around the main event long-term. I just don't trust Vince with guys that don't look like bodybuilders, no matter how over they are.

[penbrook]

Best PPV in a long time.

Is this Evolution 2.0 or the Corportation 2.0

[58kcfan89]

Just saw this on YouTube, hadn't seen it posted here. Fucking hilarious.

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[Mav]

Little kids can't root for Cena if he's not there. If he takes time off to fix that elbow, maybe they get in Bryan's corner, too. I dunno.

Just glad to see him be at his best in a big match situation. Hope they keep him in & around the main event long-term. I just don't trust Vince with guys that don't look like bodybuilders, no matter how over they are.

Shawn Michaels is the greatest of all time. I think he did alright without looking like a body builder.

I get what you are saying, the Rock, HHH, John Cena. They have that physique, but Daniel Bryan is going to have a hell of a run as a champ. hes too over not to.

If you are charismatic then you will be fine. Ric Flair also never had a body builders physique.

Its exciting. John Cena is going to take some time off, he has to get elbow fixed up.

[Mav]

Best PPV in a long time.

Is this Evolution 2.0 or the Corportation 2.0

has to be corporation 2.0

[58kcfan89]

Shawn Michaels is the greatest of all time. I think he did alright without looking like a body builder.

I get what you are saying, the Rock, HHH, John Cena. They have that physique, but Daniel Bryan is going to have a hell of a run as a champ. hes too over not to.

If you are charismatic then you will be fine. Ric Flair also never had a body builders physique.

Its exciting. John Cena is going to take some time off, he has to get elbow fixed up.

Agree 100%. For every HBK that breaks through, there's 10 Goldbergs, Cenas, Hogans that can't wrestle or promo but Vince & the kids love them because they're built like superstars.

Not saying Bryan can't stay where he's at. He's probably the most over guy on the planet and is one of the best workers as well. But I just have this horrible feeling that he'll end up in the midcard by this time next year, like Vince doesn't trust him to be one of the top guys. Hope to God I'm wrong and that he keeps up the momentum. Tonight was a good start. He's going to get more of the crowd behind him after losing the belt.

[Mav]

Agree 100%. For every HBK that breaks through, there's 10 Goldbergs, Cenas, Hogans that can't wrestle or promo but Vince & the kids love them because they're built like superstars.

Not saying Bryan can't stay where he's at. He's probably the most over guy on the planet and is one of the best workers as well. But I just have this horrible feeling that he'll end up in the midcard by this time next year, like Vince doesn't trust him to be one of the top guys. Hope to God I'm wrong and that he keeps up the momentum. Tonight was a good start. He's going to get more of the crowd behind him after losing the belt.

Well, now they have their feud set up. With Cena taking time off, this was the way they had to play it. Now Cena isn't first in line for his rematch, can take the time off he needs, and now you have the ultimate HEEL FACE match up with Bryan, and Orton.

Lets be honest. Orton is a damn good heel. He is a terrible face.

This will be good to get us to the rumble.

[58kcfan89]

Well, now they have their feud set up. With Cena taking time off, this was the way they had to play it. Now Cena isn't first in line for his rematch, can take the time off he needs, and now you have the ultimate HEEL FACE match up with Bryan, and Orton.

Lets be honest. Orton is a damn good heel. He is a terrible face.

This will be good to get us to the rumble.

Yeah it's an awesome setup. I find Orton horribly boring, whether he's a face or heel, but I'll deal with it since he'll be feuding with Bryan. Not sure if they can go all the way to the Rumble with just Bryan & Orton, but if they add in Trips & the McMahon's, they might be able to pull it off.

I'm curious to see what their plans are for Mania next year. I can't imagine anyone thought Bryan would be this over. Obviously that's a long way off, but I'd like to see Bryan, Punk or basically someone other than Cena get their "Wrestlemania Moment"...

[Mav]

Yeah it's an awesome setup. I find Orton horribly boring, whether he's a face or heel, but I'll deal with it since he'll be feuding with Bryan. Not sure if they can go all the way to the Rumble with just Bryan & Orton, but if they add in Trips & the McMahon's, they might be able to pull it off.

I'm curious to see what their plans are for Mania next year. I can't imagine anyone thought Bryan would be this over. Obviously that's a long way off, but I'd like to see Bryan, Punk or basically someone other than Cena get their "Wrestlemania Moment"...

I could see Punk being he one to kill off ADR.

They have nothing on that show, and there really is no where for Punk to go on Raw right now.

And yeah, they will have the entire family banging on Bryan. But now that they have Brad Maddox as the GM, and the entire McMahon family backing Randy Orton, I don't know who is going to help Bryan stay afloat.

[58kcfan89]

I could see Punk being he one to kill off ADR.

They have nothing on that show, and there really is no where for Punk to go on Raw right now.

And yeah, they will have the entire family banging on Bryan. But now that they have Brad Maddox as the GM, and the entire McMahon family backing Randy Orton, I don't know who is going to help Bryan stay afloat.

I think that's the point, that Bryan won't have anyone backing him. He'll have a bazillion title matches with Randall at the next bazillion PPVs and get screwed every time until either Maddox turns face or someone like Cena (or an Attitude Era guy like Rock, Foley, Austin, etc.) returns to help Bryan. Eventually, DB goes over & gets his big, awesome, long-awaited title reign (one that hopefully includes an incredibly long feud with a heel Punk).

Didn't think of Punk in the WHC chase. You're right that there's nothing really on Raw for him, but... Yuck... I figured RVD would get that spot. The next PPV is in Detroit, and Van Dam's from Michigan. Just a thought. Guess we should know more tomorrow.

[NJChiefsFan]

Well, now they have their feud set up. With Cena taking time off, this was the way they had to play it. Now Cena isn't first in line for his rematch, can take the time off he needs, and now you have the ultimate HEEL FACE match up with Bryan, and Orton.

Lets be honest. Orton is a damn good heel. He is a terrible face.

This will be good to get us to the rumble.

He isn't as bad a face as Miz is, but then again, who could be. Orton was a good heel until his methodical act got too over the top. It used to take him years to get down to the ring during the Legacy days.

This was a great set of matches tonight. Wish this was the card I witnessed at Wrestlemania.

Personally, I was kind of hoping for Vince to turn heel and it be him vs. Stef and HHH. Still, any kind of Corporation reboot will be nice. Or should I say, could be. Who knows no-a-days.

[Reaper16]

Of course HHH and the McMahons are going to be involved. This angle isn't about Bryan, its about them. HHH has to ruin everything that gets popular.

So while, yes, I do expect Bryan to eventually go over at Survivor Series or the Rumble, getting to that point is going to be really frustrating for me. Everytime I see Stephanie or HHH I fucking cringe. They are ruiners.

[Swanman]

Of course HHH and the McMahons are going to be involved. This angle isn't about Bryan, its about them. HHH has to ruin everything that gets popular.

So while, yes, I do expect Bryan to eventually go over at Survivor Series or the Rumble, getting to that point is going to be really frustrating for me. Everytime I see Stephanie or HHH I ****ing cringe. They are ruiners.

I used to be in the hate HHH camp, but I did read that he was the one behind the scenes pushing for more guys from the indies to be signed, which has recently brought us Seth Rollins, Dean Ambrose, one of the Wyatts who used to be Brodie Lee in the indies, etc. Also you have Kassius Ohno (Chris Hero) and Sammy Sayn (El Generico) working down in Florida.

If that wasn't HHH as the influence behind bringing them in, then yeah, f him.

[Reaper16]

I used to be in the hate HHH camp, but I did read that he was the one behind the scenes pushing for more guys from the indies to be signed, which has recently brought us Seth Rollins, Dean Ambrose, one of the Wyatts who used to be Brodie Lee in the indies, etc. Also you have Kassius Ohno (Chris Hero) and Sammy Sayn (El Generico) working down in Florida.

If that wasn't HHH as the influence behind bringing them in, then yeah, f him.

It was HHH that has been instrumental in getting top indie talent into the company. But he's also never going to stop being the guy that interjects himself into everything popular so that he can bury it. I'm still fuming over how he ruined the Summer of Punk.

[mcaj22]

Triple H will never and has never put a guy over lol

[Mav]

Triple H will never and has never put a guy over lol

That's not true in any way shape or form. You don't tap out clean to John Cena at wrestlemania if you aren't putting a guy over.

Triple H twice put over the Undertaker to give him a legitimate competitor when there wasn't any at wrestlemania. He also helped put over Curtis Axel.

HHH is having to be brought back into the spot light because WWE has been sucking so bad because there really hasn't been any big time talent to step forward, and now with John Cena probably gone till at least the Royal Rumble, they have to build up Bryan Danielson as much as possible, make the odds as large as they can be so that he can legitimately be the face of the company.

Clearly Randy Orton isn't capable anymore of carrying the title without help anymore.

His character is boring and bland, and a feud with just him and Bryan would get Orton BURIED because his mic work is absolutely awful.


HHH is a must have right now.

Besides, HHH is also a great heel.

Much better than as a face.

[mcaj22]

That's not true in any way shape or form. You don't tap out clean to John Cena at wrestlemania if you aren't putting a guy over.

Triple H twice put over the Undertaker to give him a legitimate competitor when there wasn't any at wrestlemania. He also helped put over Curtis Axel.

HHH is having to be brought back into the spot light because WWE has been sucking so bad because there really hasn't been any big time talent to step forward, and now with John Cena probably gone till at least the Royal Rumble, they have to build up Bryan Danielson as much as possible, make the odds as large as they can be so that he can legitimately be the face of the company.

Clearly Randy Orton isn't capable anymore of carrying the title without help anymore.

His character is boring and bland, and a feud with just him and Bryan would get Orton BURIED because his mic work is absolutely awful.


HHH is a must have right now.

Besides, HHH is also a great heel.

Much better than as a face.

I dont know if you know much about wrestling but Triple H did not put over the Undertaker

the Undertaker does not need putting over. He's not a nobody/young guy.

Triple H will squash and has squashed everyone

who does Triple H lose to? Undertaker, Brock, Cena.... yea those guys need to be put over lol

[Mav]

I dont know if you know much about wrestling but Triple H did not put over the Undertaker

the Undertaker does not need putting over. He's not a nobody/young guy.

Triple H will squash and has squashed everyone

who does Triple H lose to? Undertaker, Brock, Cena.... yea those guys need to be put over lol

at the time that Cena made him tap out at wrestlemania Cena didn't need to be put over?

Cool. And as far as the Undertaker goes, of course he didn't need put over, but its an ego check for anyone to say yeah, not once, but twice im going to go down. That's called doing what is best for business. Triple H also I believe lost to Shelton Benjamin clean at one point too. Just that Benjamin had no charisma, nor stick magic and failed.

I don't see him as the talent squasher as most do. There just hasn't been enough quality talent to justify him putting over.

That's not his fault. HHH is a rock star in his own right. People forget that he was the driving force behind both Bautista, and Randy Orton. He raised them to levels that they weren't at.

Bautista was DEACON DAVE for crying out loud. Playing a side kick to fricking DEVON of all people. And Randy Orton was literally a nobody before HHH included him into the development of Evolution.

Oh, and by the way. Im a huge HHH mark, so anything anyone says negative about him, I already defend. So, this isn't personal. But I definitely don't see HHH in the GOLDBERG category who wouldn't put anyone over.

[Reaper16]

Oh, and by the way. Im a huge HHH mark,

That was obvious from the onset.

[NJChiefsFan]

I don't think losing to Taker at Mania is a dent in anybody's ego. Everyone knows Taker will beat anyone there, so it's not really a knock on a person. If anything, it thrusts you into the spotlight. Not to mention that since HHH pushed Taker so far, it made him look like the hero he wants to be. They did plenty to keep HHH up during that hold feud, showing how tough he was and how far he pushed Taker. That's not even mentioning all the Mania promos he got to be involved in.

USA asked for the McMahon's, so I understand what is happening. It's not all one or the other, but whether there were other factors or not, HHH will hog the spotlight whenever he can.

[Mosbonian]

Tonights snoozer includes some more of "The Triple H Show" with another round of Curtis Axel/Paul Heyman beating on CM Punk....

I didn't think anything would actually make me wish that John Cena was back already.

[Reaper16]

AJ's promo >>>> all

[Mosbonian]

Orton is horrible as the "villain"....no mic skills, no real charisma and doesn't even really fit into the "corporate" mold. I hope they aren't trying to make him into another Stone Cold character.

[Reaper16]

Orton is horrible as the "villain"....no mic skills, no real charisma and doesn't even really fit into the "corporate" mold. I hope they aren't trying to make him into another Stone Cold character.

Daniel Bryan is obviously the Stone Cold in this angle.

[Mosbonian]

Daniel Bryan is obviously the Stone Cold in this angle.

Remember that Stone Cold started as a corporate shill....then "became his own man"....the anti-villain villain.

I swear.....this show tonight is like having your fingernails pulled out slowly but surely. Is Triple H's ego really this big?

[big nasty kcnut]

Did you all see zayne/cesaro on nxt it is the awesome!

[Reaper16]

Remember that Stone Cold started as a corporate shill....then "became his own man"....the anti-villain villain.

I swear.....this show tonight is like having your fingernails pulled out slowly but surely. Is Triple H's ego really this big?

Bryan up against the WWE corporate power structure is the months-long storyline here, not an eventual Orton turn.

As for Triple H, well, he's perfect in this corporate heel role. His whole history of being a talent-burying egomaniac is directly enhancing his current character.

[Reaper16]

Did you all see zayne/cesaro on nxt it is the awesome!

Yup. That match alone is worth subscribing to Hulu Plus for. The finish is mind-blowingly good, and seeing Zayn (formerly El Generico) pull off his dive-through-the-apron-and-turnbuckle-to-do-a-tornado-DDT-on-the-outside on WWE programming was fapworthy.

[Mosbonian]

Bryan up against the WWE corporate power structure is the months-long storyline here, not an eventual Orton turn.

As for Triple H, well, he's perfect in this corporate heel role. His whole history of being a talent-burying egomaniac is directly enhancing his current character.

I guess I just don't see the storyline keeping people interested for months....what concerns me is that they are setting it up for a "Cena saves the WWF" return in a couple of months.

While I enjoy Cena I do get tired of the superman role they have put him into.

[big nasty kcnut]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9CFwCFwYk1c here the zayn cesaro match for those of you who have not seen it it is the awesome and tonight bryan and rollins was fap worthy.

[Reaper16]

I guess I just don't see the storyline keeping people interested for months....what concerns me is that they are setting it up for a "Cena saves the WWF" return in a couple of months.

While I enjoy Cena I do get tired of the superman role they have put him into.

If all this is is setup for Cena to save the day, then it is very idiotic. It would completely neuter Daniel Bryan. I don't see it happening. I mean, last week Cena literally passed the torch to Bryan to be WWE's principal babyface for the time being.

[Mav]

If all this is is setup for Cena to save the day, then it is very idiotic. It would completely neuter Daniel Bryan. I don't see it happening. I mean, last week Cena literally passed the torch to Bryan to be WWE's principal babyface for the time being.

Yeah, its the Corporation 2.0

and its Steve Austin 2.0

Shrugs.

[Mosbonian]

If all this is is setup for Cena to save the day, then it is very idiotic. It would completely neuter Daniel Bryan. I don't see it happening. I mean, last week Cena literally passed the torch to Bryan to be WWE's principal babyface for the time being.

Are you saying that Triple H and the rest of the family wouldn't bury Daniel Bryan in favor of a returning John Cena? The only thing they have right now is Daniel Bryan...and they are handling that poorly IMO.

I saw a post last night on one of the boards that was almost as hilarious as anything I have seen thus far on the recent WWE action...someone suggested that they will bring back SCSA to lead the charge against "the corporation" (as a leader not a wrestler).

[Swanman]

Yup. That match alone is worth subscribing to Hulu Plus for. The finish is mind-blowingly good, and seeing Zayn (formerly El Generico) pull off his dive-through-the-apron-and-turnbuckle-to-do-a-tornado-DDT-on-the-outside on WWE programming was fapworthy.

Generico (I refuse to call him his stupid ass NXT name) has perfected the art of taking a beating but always having a chance in a match. He played the ragdoll to perfection in his run in ROH.

It's not surprising that he had a great match with Cesaro, they had great matches together in ROH several years ago. I was at a show when the two of them wrestled to a thirty minute draw. Also, Generico's year-long feud with Kevin Steen a few years back was one the best written and executed feuds in many years.

[big nasty kcnut]

I love it he going to be great on wwe main roster.

[Mosbonian]

Great another night of Triple H abuse....guess it is time to change the channel

[chiefs1111]

Yup,looks like I won't be watching Raw for quite a while again

[Mr_Tomahawk]

Looking forward to not seeing so much cena for a change...

[Captain Obvious]

Brutal...I don't remember Stephanie being that bad on the mic.

[Planetman]

Brutal...I don't remember Stephanie being that bad on the mic.
I don't recall her ever having good mic skills.

PS - You are not "The Planet's Only Superhero." That being said, we should form our own tag team.

[Planetman]

heh
World Wrestling Entertainment announced today that Cody Rhodes has been released from the company, though his moustache has been offered a generous five-year contract.

“We wish Mr. Rhodes the best in his future endeavors,” read a WWE press release issued this morning, “and we are proud to announce his moustache will remain with the company.

Although Rhodes had been enjoying a wave of success in his tag team with Damien Sandow, WWE bigwigs realized it was the moustache, not the wrestler, that was generating the most attention.

“That moustache puts asses in seats,” Vince McMahon reportedly told a backstage source. “Cody is like Marty Jannetty, the moustache is like Shawn Michaels.”

The moustache is expected to enter a main-event feud with Daniel Bryan’s beard. Bryan himself, meanwhile, is expected to be demoted to NXT soon.

[Mosbonian]

I didn't think the angle could get any more stupid....guess I was wrong.

[Al Bundy]

The HHH show is boring....

[Mav]

The HHH show is boring....

let me guess. Another beat down of Daniel Bryan? Cute.

[Mosbonian]

let me guess. Another beat down of Daniel Bryan? Cute.

Pretty much this...

All the WWE wrestlers stand by and watch.....Triple H orchestrates a beatdown of Daniel Bryan, big show gets yanked around by his manhood by Stephanie McMahon and someone from the rosters gets beat up/fired.

I presume this will be the normal MO for the new few months....until either John Cena returns or sales of merchandise/TV viewership takes another hit.

[Rasputin]

The Big Show is such a pussy. What an embarrassment.

[Planetman]

The entire creative team needs an enema.

[Mav]

The entire creative team needs an enema.

I don't even want to watch this crap.

And people say Cena is the problem.

PFFFFFF

[mcaj22]

lol Triple H burying someone

shocked

[Planetman]

I don't even want to watch this crap.

And people say Cena is the problem.

PFFFFFF
Pretty much this.

This is just recycled garbage with new paint slapped on it. See also "The Vince McMahon Kiss My Ass Club."

Let's find ways to humiliate people and bore everyone to death in the process.

[58kcfan89]

So boring... Same old crap 3 weeks in a row now.

I don't even want to watch this crap.

And people say Cena is the problem.

PFFFFFF

Cena isn't the problem, at least not entirely. The way they book Cena (and pretty much everyone for that matter) is the problem. It's predictable and boring. I told my friend about 3 weeks before Summerslam that Bryan would win & Blandy would cash in (without looking at any spoilers, reports, etc. And I can't have been the only one.). They should be booking DB like a badass, not a damn jobber.

[Mav]

So boring... Same old crap 3 weeks in a row now.



Cena isn't the problem, at least not entirely. The way they book Cena (and pretty much everyone for that matter) is the problem. It's predictable and boring. I told my friend about 3 weeks before Summerslam that Bryan would win & Blandy would cash in (without looking at any spoilers, reports, etc. And I can't have been the only one.). They should be booking DB like a badass, not a damn jobber.

Yeah, everyone knew that John was gonna drop it to Cena. I didn't know they were going to make Randy essentially the Corporate champion, and pull this crap again.

[Rasputin]

Weeaaall It's the Big Crybaby Show

[Mav]

The only hope I have is that the Wyatt family is the one to destroy this non sense.

[Rasputin]

Haven't watched RAW in months I think even a year or two. That ending was freaking awesome!

All the Big Show had to do was knock that dude out and quit his crying what's he big deal? Do your job and quit crying damn.

[Planetman]

The only hope I have is that the Wyatt family is the one to destroy this non sense.
Don't hold your breath.

[Mav]

Don't hold your breath.

Im watching Stephanie McMahon undressing Paul Whyte right now.....

They think this crap is ratings worthy?

[58kcfan89]

The only hope I have is that the Wyatt family is the one to destroy this non sense.

As awesome as I think TWF is, they'd actually have to show up on Raw (not to mention turn face) to do something about it.

They've got a 3-hour show. It's not like they don't have time for a short Bray Wyatt promo instead of these damn recap videos.....

[Mav]

As awesome as I think TWF is, they'd actually have to show up on Raw (not to mention turn face) to do something about it.

They've got a 3-hour show. It's not like they don't have time for a short Bray Wyatt promo instead of these damn recap videos.....

oh no, we need to see the same ending three weeks in a row, and we need to see the big show, not once, but twice sobbing like a big ol bitch.

[Rasputin]

oh no, we need to see the same ending three weeks in a row, and we need to see the big show, not once, but twice sobbing like a big ol bitch.

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[ILChief]

Why do they keep burying Ziggler? He has the potential to be the top guy post Cena.

[Al Bundy]

Why do they keep burying Ziggler? He has the potential to be the top guy post Cena.

HHHEgo.....

[big nasty kcnut]

Well you can always watch nxt on hulu don't need the plus anymore to watch 60 mins of goodness.

[Mosbonian]

HHHEgo.....

After Vince pretty much buried WCW, ECW and most any other wrestling organization that he has gone up against I didn't think anyone would ever be able to topple his wrestling entertainment empire. But if we all wait long enough Trip H and Stephanie will bury this thing from within. In show business venacular they have "jumped the shark".

[Al Bundy]

After Vince pretty much buried WCW, ECW and most any other wrestling organization that he has gone up against I didn't think anyone would ever be able to topple his wrestling entertainment empire. But if we all wait long enough Trip H and Stephanie will bury this thing from within. In show business venacular they have "jumped the shark".
Best description there is of it.

[Mav]

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Rep

[Mav]

Why do they keep burying Ziggler? He has the potential to be the top guy post Cena.

They are setting up a huge feud with Ziggler and Ambrose. He sells better than anyone in the company at the moment.

I don't think hes being buried. I think they are showing his legitimacy by having him ambushed, and then having Ryback coming out.

Buried would be if they just had Ziggler get dominated by RyBerg

[Swanman]

They are setting up a huge feud with Ziggler and Ambrose. He sells better than anyone in the company at the moment.

I don't think hes being buried. I think they are showing his legitimacy by having him ambushed, and then having Ryback coming out.

Buried would be if they just had Ziggler get dominated by RyBerg

Assuming it ends where it should, I actually like how the current storyline is being written. You look to have a future alliance with Bryan, Ziggler, Rhodes and Show going against the corporate goons like HHH, Orton, Ryback and the Shield. Survivor Series is coming up so you could have an interesting elimination match involving that angle.

HHH knows people hate him for burying people in the past so he is just using that to supplement his heel heat to help get the new group of babyfaces over in the feud. Each week that any of them take an asswhipping, it just amps up their face heat for the following week. They just have to make sure to give the fans a payoff or it will be all for nothing.

[Mav]

Assuming it ends where it should, I actually like how the current storyline is being written. You look to have a future alliance with Bryan, Ziggler, Rhodes and Show going against the corporate goons like HHH, Orton, Ryback and the Shield. Survivor Series is coming up so you could have an interesting elimination match involving that angle.

HHH knows people hate him for burying people in the past so he is just using that to supplement his heel heat to help get the new group of babyfaces over in the feud. Each week that any of them take an asswhipping, it just amps up their face heat for the following week. They just have to make sure to give the fans a payoff or it will be all for nothing.

It is just stupid how they are doing show. Show has a IRON CLAD contract sarc mark, but yet, they threaten to destroy it all the time. how does that work?

[Mr. Arrowhead]

It is just stupid how they are doing show. Show has a IRON CLAD contract sarc mark, but yet, they threaten to destroy it all the time. how does that work?

no shit, I actually dont mind the angle, but the shit they are doing with big show is pretty stupid

[Swanman]

no shit, I actually dont mind the angle, but the shit they are doing with big show is pretty stupid

It's all about the payoff. If he hits HHH with the WMD at some point, the crowd will lose it. Better yet, if he knocks Stephanie the F out.

[ILChief]

They are setting up a huge feud with Ziggler and Ambrose. He sells better than anyone in the company at the moment.

I don't think hes being buried. I think they are showing his legitimacy by having him ambushed, and then having Ryback coming out.

Buried would be if they just had Ziggler get dominated by RyBerg
I flipped it to raw during a break in MNF and ziggler got squashed by bray Wyatt. Lame

[Mav]

I flipped it to raw during a break in MNF and ziggler got squashed by bray Wyatt. Lame

Ugh.

[ILChief]

Ugh.

He didn't even get an entrance. They came back from break and he was in the ring. He went from world champ to the Brooklyn Brawler

[Mav]

He didn't even get an entrance. They came back from break and he was in the ring. He went from world champ to the Brooklyn Brawler

they did this for a while with Daniel Bryan before he got his push again. Same thing here I guess.

[Mosbonian]

I decided after last weeks stupidty I would take a break from WWE until John Cena returns...at least then there will be some legit storylines.

Right now it's doing nothing but playing to egos....

[Jerm]

Yes because John Cena and "legit storylines" belongs in the same sentence LMAO...and of course he doesn't have an ego nor does he bury anyone. Get outta here.

This entire HHH/Orton/Bryan storyline has been awesome and is exactly how HunTor, Stephanie, and Orton should be used as heels...Bryan is so frickin over right now it's not even funny, more so than anyone in years. It's also making The Big Show of all people relevant again...add in little sidebars like The Shield and the Rhodes family and its all been gold IMO.

[Mosbonian]

Yes because John Cena and "legit storylines" belongs in the same sentence LMAO...and of course he doesn't have an ego nor does he bury anyone. Get outta here.

This entire HHH/Orton/Bryan storyline has been awesome and is exactly how HunTor, Stephanie, and Orton should be used as heels...Bryan is so frickin over right now it's not even funny, more so than anyone in years. It's also making The Big Show of all people relevant again...add in little sidebars like The Shield and the Rhodes family and its all been gold IMO.

This post tells me all one needs to know about your Rasslin' tastes.

This whole story line sucks...and you seem to be the only one who likes it. Are you related to Triple H?

The only thing I agree with you on is that Daniel Bryan is over right now, but not as much as you believe. The fact that he is over right now speaks to the dearth of real talent in the WWE right now.....

And Randy Orton as the main heel? Give me a break! He's about as capable of carrying that thru as Kane would be learning to Fandango....

The Shield is getting buried as "henchmen" for the McMahon family instead of staying the heavies and "independent"....

The Big Show? C'mon the storyline with him and all the crying and "being broke"? Where have we heard that one before? (Hint: it was in the WWE)

And if you believe they can make the Rhodes family relevant again...you are a big mark.

[keg in kc]

Raw is pretty much unwatchable at this point.

[chiefs1111]

Raw is pretty much unwatchable at this point.

Thank goodness for football season.

[Sassy Squatch]

This post tells me all one needs to know about your Rasslin' tastes.

This whole story line sucks...and you seem to be the only one who likes it. Are you related to Triple H?

The only thing I agree with you on is that Daniel Bryan is over right now, but not as much as you believe. The fact that he is over right now speaks to the dearth of real talent in the WWE right now.....

And Randy Orton as the main heel? Give me a break! He's about as capable of carrying that thru as Kane would be learning to Fandango....

The Shield is getting buried as "henchmen" for the McMahon family instead of staying the heavies and "independent"....

The Big Show? C'mon the storyline with him and all the crying and "being broke"? Where have we heard that one before? (Hint: it was in the WWE)

And if you believe they can make the Rhodes family relevant again...you are a big mark.
LMAO at the notion Bryan doesn't have talent.

[Mosbonian]

And I haven't even mentioned that one of the best mike guys on the roster right now is pretty much relegated to getting "revenge" on an overweight manager! (CM Punk)

And another of the great mike workers is pretty much being relegated to being squashed....(Ziggler)

Plus I am not sure what they saw in the Wyatt Family but that one is a waste...

[Mosbonian]

LMAO at the notion Bryan doesn't have talent.

Help me out here....where did I say he didn't have talent? I said there was a dearth of talent on the roster right now. He is a great worker with excellent skills. But honestly he can't carry this roster for long.

[Jerm]

Yes Daniel Bryan is not that over...lol JFC...

Also the Wyatt Family gimmick is the most original thing they've done with a character in ages...how you could be slamming that is beyond me unless you're just a troll.

Apparently we need moar Cena "RISE AGAINST" bullshit though...

[keg in kc]

The Wyatt Family is a channel changer for me. I don't think I'm the target demo for that one, though.

Me watching Raw these days has basically degenerated into checking in at the top of each hour to see what Bryan and Punk are up to. Those guys are awesome, as always. The rest of the roster I basically couldn't care less about at this point.

[Sassy Squatch]

Wyatt family sucks until they actually have a real feud. Kinda like the Shield sucked until they actually had matches instead of run ins.

[Mosbonian]

Yes Daniel Bryan is not that over...lol JFC...

Also the Wyatt Family gimmick is the most original thing they've done with a character in ages...how you could be slamming that is beyond me unless you're just a troll.

Apparently we need moar Cena "RISE AGAINST" bullshit though...

I can tell reading comprehension is a tough skill for you....and that stick figure cartoons probably amuse you too.

And the Wyatt family gimmick, like the Big Show being broke and being forced to work lest he be fired isn't even close to being original. GTFO with that troll crap.

I don't like Cena anymore than anyone else, but at least he brought something to the table....and I could care less what you believe but it's evident the only reason DB is "over" is because there really isn't anyone else short of CM Punk to put over right now.

So tell me Jerm....who really is left on the roster right now who can produce the attendance/ticket sales, promotions, and merchandise sales that The Rock, John Cena. SCSA or even CM Punk can? No one....

They have the opportunity with Ziggler, Punk and The Shield but all 3 are being horrible misused.

[Mav]

There is not much else they can do with the Shield.

Roman Reigns to me is just another useless big. Seth Rollins is another Justin Gabriel. The only one with star potential at all is Dean Ambrose. Reigns and Rollins cant stand on their own.

That's why they are lugging around the tag titles that they will eventually lose to PTP all because Darren Young came out as gay.

I don't know what the deal is with Ziggler. I have no idea why he is being buried and under all people, RVD. Ziggler right now should be carrying smack down.

RVD is old, washed up and irrelevant. The only way to make him relevant, was to pair him with Ricardo. What does that tell you?

As for the Wyatt Family. Their Gimmick is awesome. It is what the Brood COULD of been. I love it. Pretty soon they will add Kane back into that story line. I love the way this has gone. Husky Harris is super talented.

[keg in kc]

They're doing with Ziggler what they've done with every face not named Cena for the last decade. They always put them on long losing streaks, because they think for some reason that gets them over. Then when they don't get over to an audience that sees them as a loser, they blame it on the talent and bury them in the midcard. We've seen it plenty of times with Punk and Bryan and this is at least the 2nd time for Ziggler. As for Bryan, without Cena's injury and without his relationship with the Bella (making him a figure on Total Divas) they wouldn't be doing anything with him, either. And it's a perfect opportunity for HHH and Stephanie to masturbate all over TV now, doing the old, tired corporate gimmick. The only thing missing is Vince (who was apparently supposed to be on last night).

The funniest part is when HHH and Vince come on TV and tell their audience that all these new people they should be trying to get over any way possible completely suck and reinforce that they just aren't as good as the guys from the 90s. It's so incredibly stupid, and they've been doing it for at least ten years. Yeah, that's a great way to create new talent, reinforce to your audience that they aren't as good as the old talent, and they never will be. And while we're at it, let's keep bringing that old talent back and using them to bury the new talent. It's a never-ending cycle.

[Three7s]

They're doing with Ziggler what they've done with every face not named Cena for the last decade. They always put them on long losing streaks, because they think for some reason that gets them over. Then when they don't get over to an audience that sees them as a loser, they blame it on the talent and bury them in the midcard. We've seen it plenty of times with Punk and Bryan and this is at least the 2nd time for Ziggler. As for Bryan, without Cena's injury and without his relationship with the Bella (making him a figure on Total Divas) they wouldn't be doing anything with him, either. And it's a perfect opportunity for HHH and Stephanie to masturbate all over TV now, doing the old, tired corporate gimmick.
And this is why I don't watch wrestling, period. It's all a bunch of crap where the skill of the wrestlers have no merit whatsoever. It's all about who these clowns want to promote so they can line their pockets.

Screw the WWE or whatever its name is.

[Jerm]

I can tell reading comprehension is a tough skill for you....and that stick figure cartoons probably amuse you too.

I can read and comprehend just fine...not a tough skill at all, dealing with dipshits who don't know what they're talking about is much more difficult. :thumb:

And the Wyatt family gimmick, like the Big Show being broke and being forced to work lest he be fired isn't even close to being original. GTFO with that troll crap.

Ok smart guy if the Wyatt Family gimmick is so unoriginal, name something in the last 15 years that is even close to it. The only thing it resembles is Waylon Mercy...although I doubt you even know who that is so go on and Wiki him now....I'll wait.

I don't like Cena anymore than anyone else, but at least he brought something to the table....and I could care less what you believe but it's evident the only reason DB is "over" is because there really isn't anyone else short of CM Punk to put over right now.

What the fuck does Cena bring to the table please??? Oh well I guess if you mean playing the same stale character for over a decade, giving us the same repetitive cookie cutter promos every time he's on the mic, and being the same locker room prick as HHH and UT were in their heydays then sure I guess he does "bring something to the table".

And if you *REALLY* believe the only reason Daniel Bryan is so over is because there's no one else to push then you're A) clearly not watching the product and B) delusional beyond belief.

So tell me Jerm....who really is left on the roster right now who can produce the attendance/ticket sales, promotions, and merchandise sales that The Rock, John Cena. SCSA or even CM Punk can? No one....

I'm the biggest CM Punk guy there is but do not lump him in with The Rock and SCSA...he isn't anywhere close to their level. Hell Cena isn't there either for that matter.

Guys like SCSA and The Rock come around once in a very long, long time...it's beyond dumb to believe you can just plug in anyone and push them and they'll be at that level. It may be hard but you should try and be just a wee bit more level headed than that...times have changed.

They have the opportunity with Ziggler, Punk and The Shield but all 3 are being horrible misused.

Ziggler is tremendous in the ring but his mouth gets him into trouble hence what you've been seeing lately, we've been there and done that with Punk and he's doing what he wants to do and that's work with Heyman, and The Shield is being used just fine...what else are you going to do with them until you break them up?

Come on man, you apparently have all the magical answers...lets hear them...

[Reaper16]

And I haven't even mentioned that one of the best mike guys on the roster right now is pretty much relegated to getting "revenge" on an overweight manager! (CM Punk)

And another of the great mike workers is pretty much being relegated to being squashed....(Ziggler)

Plus I am not sure what they saw in the Wyatt Family but that one is a waste...

All due respect, but we are watching different programs if Dolph Ziggler is a great mic worker and Bray Wyatt (IMO the BEST talker in WWE right now, including CM Punk) is a waste.

[Mosbonian]

All due respect, but we are watching different programs if Dolph Ziggler is a great mic worker and Bray Wyatt (IMO the BEST talker in WWE right now, including CM Punk) is a waste.

We probably are watching different programs....what about Bray Wyatt has made him a great mic worker? He is almost as bad as listing to Kane work the mic...or Big Show. He may have some hidden talent but he hasn't done anything but act creepy and you can pick a few other guys on the roster to fill that role.

[Mosbonian]

Ok smart guy if the Wyatt Family gimmick is so unoriginal, name something in the last 15 years that is even close to it. The only thing it resembles is Waylon Mercy...although I doubt you even know who that is so go on and Wiki him now....I'll wait.

The Brood...as mentioned before....Paul Bearer and the Undertaker/Kane....The Vachons....(I don't have to stay in the 15 years, I've been watching every version of WWE there has been since the Superstar Billy Graham days). There have been several "freaky" family gimmicks over the years.


What the **** does Cena bring to the table please??? Oh well I guess if you mean playing the same stale character for over a decade, giving us the same repetitive cookie cutter promos every time he's on the mic, and being the same locker room prick as HHH and UT were in their heydays then sure I guess he does "bring something to the table".

This one is so easy to answer it shows you were angry when you typed it....the answer:

Money....his persona that was created sells tickets/merchandise/appearances like never before. The fact that you don't recognize it or want to ignore it speaks volumes.

And if you *REALLY* believe the only reason Daniel Bryan is so over is because there's no one else to push then you're A) clearly not watching the product and B) delusional beyond belief.

I'm not the only person on here that thinks the only reason DB is getting a push now is because Cena is gone. And watch what happens to him when Cena gets back. He will be back to the mid-card person that WWE believes he is.

I'm the biggest CM Punk guy there is but do not lump him in with The Rock and SCSA...he isn't anywhere close to their level. Hell Cena isn't there either for that matter.

Guys like SCSA and The Rock come around once in a very long, long time...it's beyond dumb to believe you can just plug in anyone and push them and they'll be at that level. It may be hard but you should try and be just a wee bit more level headed than that...times have changed.

Evidently you didn't see Steve Austin long before the SCSA time frame, i.e. the Hollywood Blondes. If you find the right guy and the right gimmick and meld them you get a Rock, Stone Cold and a Cena. Hell Hulk Hogan was just a normal guy named Terry Boulder before he became the Hulkster and sad enough to say his merchandise still sells.

[Jerm]

The Brood & early Taker/Paul Bearer are nowhere near what The Wyatt Family gimmick is but ok...

[Reaper16]

We probably are watching different programs....what about Bray Wyatt has made him a great mic worker? He is almost as bad as listing to Kane work the mic...or Big Show. He may have some hidden talent but he hasn't done anything but act creepy and you can pick a few other guys on the roster to fill that role.

I guess if you haven't been watching him on NXT for the last year like I have then you won't know just how good he is on the mic. That's fair.

He talks as he wrestles: utterly, completely within character.

Here's his goodbye promo (starts at 3:11ish): <iframe width="560" height="315" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/cGzrmJXa5jg" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

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Then of course, there's this WWE vid of him explaining Sister Abigail. <iframe width="420" height="315" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/NwEsCOYCkL8" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

I could go on, but he's absolutely in the Punk/Ambrose class of promo guys. Only person above that tier is, of course, Heyman.

[Mosbonian]

I guess if you haven't been watching him on NXT for the last year like I have then you won't know just how good he is on the mic. That's fair.



I could go on, but he's absolutely in the Punk/Ambrose class of promo guys. Only person above that tier is, of course, Heyman.

Those are good...and you are right, I don't watch NXT so I haven't seen any of those promos. But so far they haven't really done much with him on WWE IMO.

Now Dean Ambrose....I like him, he works the mike well. I think they should never let Reigns or Rollins near a microphone. (Part of me believes the only reason Reigns has a job is because he is related to The Rock)

[Mav]

Those are good...and you are right, I don't watch NXT so I haven't seen any of those promos. But so far they haven't really done much with him on WWE IMO.

Now Dean Ambrose....I like him, he works the mike well. I think they should never let Reigns or Rollins near a microphone. (Part of me believes the only reason Reigns has a job is because he is related to The Rock)

agreed

[Mr. Laz]

WWE LEGEND JIM ROSS
COUNT ME OUT ... I'M RETIRING

BREAKING NEWS0911_jim_ross_getty2

WWE Hall-of-Fame announcer Jim Ross -- the voice of the organization for two decades -- has decided to hang up his microphone and retire, so says the WWE.

Ross called some of the biggest matches in WWE history -- including Stone Cold's epic battles with Vince McMahon, the rise of The Rock ... and the famous "Hell In a Cell' match when Undertaker launched Mick Foley through a table from the top of a steel cage.



But Ross didn't just do the play-by-play -- he also came up with some pretty iconic wrestling nicknames ... referring to Stone Cold Steve Austin as the "Texas Rattlesnake" and Triple H as the "Cerebral Assassin."

He was also famous for shouting phrases like "By god, that man has a family" when wrestlers were getting their asses kicked in the ring.

According to the WWE, Ross wants to spend more time focusing on his "personal business endeavors" -- and by that, we're guessing he means his growing BBQ sauce company.

For the record, it's delicious ... but JR, you'll be missed.

[NJChiefsFan]

All due respect, but we are watching different programs if Dolph Ziggler is a great mic worker and Bray Wyatt (IMO the BEST talker in WWE right now, including CM Punk) is a waste.

I agree. I like Ziggler but he is not great on the mic.

[Swanman]

Those are good...and you are right, I don't watch NXT so I haven't seen any of those promos. But so far they haven't really done much with him on WWE IMO.

Now Dean Ambrose....I like him, he works the mike well. I think they should never let Reigns or Rollins near a microphone. (Part of me believes the only reason Reigns has a job is because he is related to The Rock)

Ambrose has always been gold on the mic, well before his WWE signing. Rollins isn't great but over his career he has gotten much better. In ROH as Tyler Black, it was often a disaster when he tried to talk. He got better as it went on and he is still very, very young in the grand scheme of things. His best attribute is his in-ring work but unfortunately we haven't seen the best of that yet in WWE. His best work thus far after his WWE signing was probably his feud with Ambrose over the NXT title.

[Simply Red]

Monday Night Raw

[Dayze]

I can't take it any longer;
...I've seen the title of this thread for years now, and have no fucking idea what it means.


am I retarded? ..I mean, more so that usual? What the fuck does the OP title mean?

[BryanBusby]

I can't take it any longer;
...I've seen the title of this thread for years now, and have no fucking idea what it means.


am I retarded? ..I mean, more so that usual? What the fuck does the OP title mean?
It's actually been the title for less than a year and you will not get it unless you watch the product.

I've actually been dubya-dubya-e free for almost the entire period of post-WM to now. I really don't miss it tbh.

[big nasty kcnut]

Triple h got knock the fuck out! Also Steph was slapping big show like he owe her money. Plus los matadors sucks. Can't wait to see sammi zayn so people can really go OLE! Finally the rhodes family winning sunday was awesome.

[Three7s]

It's actually been the title for less than a year and you will not get it unless you watch the product.

I've actually been dubya-dubya-e free for almost the entire period of post-WM to now. I really don't miss it tbh.
Because it's just a glorified soap opera for people that like drama and action, not skill and talent. Last night was just another classic deterrent in the "show" that is the WWE.

[BigRock]

http://i.imgur.com/GHNRrX9l.jpg

:eek:
:eek:
:eek:

If you're getting the eerie "That guy looks familiar" vibe, you're right. That is Chris Jericho.

[Marty Mac Ver 2.0]

how come no is talking about Darren Young coming out of the closet a s whoo-mo?

[big nasty kcnut]

So with brock back and bastista too Also daniel bryan with the wyett. Who ready for the rumble alo i'm watching cm punk dvd.

[BryanBusby]

Wait what? Batista is back? If he's back in heel form, finally a reason to start watching again.

E: Finally caught up on some stuff and loltna. They got booted out of their own studio for dumb gay shit and if vince could kill off the entire company entirely by putting like....saturday morning slam? on SpikeTV. Lets all laugh at TNA.

[Ultra Peanut]

fuck everything, i'm gonna go download wrestle kingdom

[big nasty kcnut]

Two words Jake Roberts one more word DDT!!!!

[Simply Red]

**** everything, i'm gonna go download wrestle kingdom

I've got out my WWF rasslin' action-figures w/ steel cage - EEEWWRAW!!!

[BryanBusby]

That might of been the worst Royal Rumble PPV I ever watched. Not exaggerating either.

[Simply Red]

How did Andre the Giant look?

[BryanBusby]

How did Andre the Giant look?

Pretty stiff

[Simply Red]

Pretty stiff

<a href="http://imgur.com/Aizxj1S"><img src="http://i.imgur.com/Aizxj1S.gif" title="Hosted by imgur.com" /></a>

[Jimmya]

Love the gif!

[BryanBusby]

<a href="http://imgur.com/Aizxj1S"><img src="http://i.imgur.com/Aizxj1S.gif" title="Hosted by imgur.com" /></a>
excellent gif usage

The crowd was red hot for Daniel Bryan and they didn't even have him in the Rumble, so they could make room for Kevin Nash. You know it's bad when even Mick Foley shits allover it.

@realmickfoley 1m
Does @WWE actually hate their own audience? I've never been so disgusted with a PPV.

This shit wreaked of wcw and HHH is giving all his buddies paydays.

[Mecca]

I find it laughably funny when people say shit like that because guess what? Has anyone not paid attention for the last 10 years? Ever since they've had no competition they do what they want, they don't care what the fans want anymore cause they don't have to.

Everyone has known for a month now that Batista was winning the rumble and Roman Reigns was going to get a giant push, so why is anyone stunned?

They don't care what their audience wants, Daniel Bryan can be the most over guy in the world the fact still remains as stupid as this is, Vince has a big man fetish and it's why Daniel Bryan can't get a proper push yet Bray Wyatt can.

[Simply Red]

dang man - sounds like a colossal fail on PPV's part and the event coordinator.

They need to put some thought into these events and stop throwing shit together, hoping it sticks.

[Simply Red]

Rotten deal there, oh yeah, by the way, just out of curiosity; how much was this event via PPV?

[Simply Red]

I find it laughably funny when people say shit like that because guess what? Has anyone not paid attention for the last 10 years? Ever since they've had no competition they do what they want, they don't care what the fans want anymore cause they don't have to.

Everyone has known for a month now that Batista was winning the rumble and Roman Reigns was going to get a giant push, so why is anyone stunned?

They don't care what their audience wants, Daniel Bryan can be the most over guy in the world the fact still remains as stupid as this is, Vince has a big man fetish and it's why Daniel Bryan can't get a proper push yet Bray Wyatt can.


Mecca ain't the one and is simply not having it!

[Sassy Squatch]

Even Cena subtly shit on the PPV.

[big nasty kcnut]

It 49.00$ look if you want him to take organise a protest like when they bring up orton. Get up and leave and stay in the concourse till his interview is finished. You have to do something to get vince to take notice.

[Sassy Squatch]

http://i.cubeupload.com/GCvVul.gif

[Reaper16]

I find it laughably funny when people say shit like that because guess what? Has anyone not paid attention for the last 10 years? Ever since they've had no competition they do what they want, they don't care what the fans want anymore cause they don't have to.

Everyone has known for a month now that Batista was winning the rumble and Roman Reigns was going to get a giant push, so why is anyone stunned?

They don't care what their audience wants, Daniel Bryan can be the most over guy in the world the fact still remains as stupid as this is, Vince has a big man fetish and it's why Daniel Bryan can't get a proper push yet Bray Wyatt can.

Bray Wyatt rules though.

[TimBone]

Cena shouldn't be shitting on anything WWE related.

[BigCatDaddy]

Bray Wyatt rules though.

Yep. Might be my favorite guy at this point.

[Mecca]

Bray Wyatt rules though.

That's not the point.

[big nasty kcnut]

They say they have big plans for daniel so why not put that into motion now. The fire is hot strike that iron

[B_Razz]

being at a sports bar I had no idea the crowd was being they way they were. I need to start watchin these at home. I was disappointed with the royal rumble match for sure. I was happy kevin nash was in it but it was crappy he didn't get any moves in. Don't bring the guy in if your not going to allow him to do something. Daniel Bryan not being in it was stupid too but people shouldn't be that upset if they bought it because going in they knew he wasn't going to be in that match.

[Mav]

That might of been the worst Royal Rumble PPV I ever watched. Not exaggerating either.

Sad considering how well it started. Absolute garbage after that though.

[TLO]

I think you guys should start a new wrasslin thread. This one is quite large.

[Big Poppa Payne]

Sad considering how well it started. Absolute garbage after that though.

I heard Roman Reigns killed it though. After last night I think the WWE will take notice and give Daniel Bryan a push for WMXXX.

[mcaj22]

That was the first time I saw X PAC Heat in years, Rey Mysterio got it, Batista, etc

[Big Poppa Payne]

That was the first time I saw X PAC Heat in years, Rey Mysterio got it, Batista, etc

Wasn't Rey the last guy out for the Rumble? He probably got it because the crowd realized Daniel Bryan wasn't coming. Batista probably got heat because he's been back less than a week and he's headlining WMXXX, what a joke. I would've booed too.

[mcaj22]

Wasn't Rey the last guy out for the Rumble? He probably got it because the crowd realized Daniel Bryan wasn't coming. Batista probably got heat because he's been back less than a week and he's headlining WMXXX, what a joke. I would've booed too.

yea that's what X Pac Heat is. You boo the guy regardless if he's good or bad because you want him the hell out of there/off your television screen. Even Sheamus got it in the end and he came out to a loud pop

it did end up working in Roman Reigns favor, he ended up being the crowds last glimmer of hope once Punk got eliminated with that bullshit tactic.

[Big Poppa Payne]

yea that's what X Pac Heat is. You boo the guy regardless if he's good or bad because you want him the hell out of there/off your television screen. Even Sheamus got it in the end and he came out to a loud pop

it did end up working in Roman Reigns favor, he ended up being the crowds last glimmer of hope once Punk got eliminated with that bullshit tactic.

See man I really like Reigns, I think he could be the next big thing but they are using him wrong. I don't understand all the love for Daniel Bryan but I hear he's a hard worker and I respect that. I'm sick of the Batista's and the Lesnar's and these guys who come and go and as soon as they come back they automatically get a title shot because of who they are. I quit watching the WWE years ago because of that.

[mcaj22]

See man I really like Reigns, I think he could be the next big thing but they are using him wrong. I don't understand all the love for Daniel Bryan but I hear he's a hard worker and I respect that. I'm sick of the Batista's and the Lesnar's and these guys who come and go and as soon as they come back they automatically get a title shot because of who they are. I quit watching the WWE years ago because of that.

I like Brock, he's not a Triple H guy like the Batistas and Sheamuses of the world, Brock is good for business and has major crossover appeal. Brock doesn't need the belt and will actually lose a match here and there. The only downside to Brock is his part time 20 shows a year status. If he was full time he would be perfect.

Brock has put on some memorable matches in his day, but that's why it sucks now. Big Show and Brock in 2014 is some stale shit, two older dudes basically stiffing around in the ring. Remember their match WHEN THEY BROKE THE RING? people went nuts. Having a match again will never top it, which is why people call it boring.

Batista has no appeal, he's going to bury/squash everyone in his way, he had 1 MMA fight in his career, was a terrible character in the Riddick movie, and WWE is hoping Guardians of the Galaxy is some Avengers level box office smash. I don't even think people know the fucking characters of Guardians of the Galaxy. I like comics and superheros as much as the next guy but that crap is for the birds.

[Reaper16]

I don't understand all the love for Daniel Bryan but I hear he's a hard worker

http://i.imgur.com/dnTjV.gif

[Big Poppa Payne]

I like Brock, he's not a Triple H guy like the Batistas and Sheamuses of the world, Brock is good for business and has major crossover appeal. Brock doesn't need the belt and will actually lose a match here and there. The only downside to Brock is his part time 20 shows a year status. If he was full time he would be perfect.

Brock has put on some memorable matches in his day, but that's why it sucks now. Big Show and Brock in 2014 is some stale shit, two older dudes basically stiffing around in the ring. Remember their match WHEN THEY BROKE THE RING? people went nuts. Having a match again will never top it, which is why people call it boring.

Batista has no appeal, he's going to bury/squash everyone in his way, he had 1 MMA fight in his career, was a terrible character in the Riddick movie, and WWE is hoping Guardians of the Galaxy is some Avengers level box office smash. I don't even think people know the fucking characters of Guardians of the Galaxy. I like comics and superheros as much as the next guy but that crap is for the birds.


I agree Brock has had some good matches, the last match I remember watching with him in it was when he fought Kurt Angle and Brock landed on his head doing a moonsault from the top rope.

[big nasty kcnut]

Npayne nope it was a shooting star press

[Big Poppa Payne]

Npayne nope it was a shooting star press

Right on, I didn't know the exact terminology for it. Didn't he break his neck doing that move?

[big nasty kcnut]

yep

[keg in kc]

The opening segment sure looked like the beginning of a HHH-Bryan program for mania, with the face-to-face pose.

[Donger]

Am I the only one who has looked at this thread title for seven years and still has no idea what the thread is about?

[Sassy Squatch]

Sounds like CM Punk quit before the last RAW.

[Three7s]

Am I the only one who has looked at this thread title for seven years and still has no idea what the thread is about?
Fake wrestling entertainment.

[CoMoChief]

WWE is having these guys come back because their overall product is terrible...or they're trying to re-live the old magic that made them successsful.

There's horrible star power. People are tired of John Cena and CM Punk isn't worth a shit. Ryback, Alberto Del Rio, Shaemus....who the **** are these guys???

The product on the TV has changed and the "wow" factor and starpower of their roster has suffered because of it. There are no legends from this recent era (last 10yrs), and the ones who are legends are leftover from the Attitude era.

[Big Poppa Payne]

Sounds like CM Punk quit before the last RAW.

I just read that, I guess he quit because he got written out of the RAW script Monday night and he's upset about "part time" wrestlers always getting a big push when they come back.

[mcaj22]

WWE is having these guys come back because their overall product is terrible...or they're trying to re-live the old magic that made them successsful.

There's horrible star power. People are tired of John Cena and CM Punk isn't worth a shit. Ryback, Alberto Del Rio, Shaemus....who the **** are these guys???

The product on the TV has changed and the "wow" factor and starpower of their roster has suffered because of it. There are no legends from this recent era (last 10yrs), and the ones who are legends are leftover from the Attitude era.

but the fans don't want these guys back. They just rejected them at the Royal Rumble and cheered all the younger talent. The fans want the younger talent, it's Triple H and Vince jamming the older guys down our throats.

Triple H still giving all his buddies (New Age Outlaws, Sheamus, Batista, Nash) free handouts.

[Big Poppa Payne]

Sting signed with the WWE..




As reported earlier today, RF Video’s Rob Feinstein made a post on Facebook stating that Sting has signed with WWE in the past 24 hours. Feinstein says he received "a million emails" about the situation and provided this update regarding Sting's status for WrestleMania and RAW the night after WrestleMania:

“I got a million emails over the day and wanted to wait before I said anything more on the Sting situation. I see that my FB post has been all over websites today and I will stand by my story as the person who told me has never lied to me and is a good source. As I stated earlier today I do not think Sting will face Undertaker at Mania. I am certain that Taker is going to face Brock at mania and I know a little bit more but I don’t want everyone yelling at me for spoilers. Trust me Mania is going to be really good this year if it’s true what I have been told. Everything changes in this business so there is nothing that you should go out and bet your house on. I still think that Sting will not be at Mania and will be on Raw the following night and be tied into the Network. I guess we will all have to wait and see but I also think WWE will def tease Sting up until that weekend but again I think he will debut on Raw and only wrestle a certain huber of dates and maybe one MAJOR match at Mania in CA in 2015 and be part of the HOF.”

[BigCatDaddy]

Sting sucked once he moved to the Crow gimmick.

[mcaj22]

Punk quitting explains why they put those two random guys into the Elimination Chamber championship match, lol.

[Big Poppa Payne]

Sting sucked once he moved to the Crow gimmick.

Not to mention he's 54 years old.

So now WWE will have Hogan, Sting, The Ultimate Warrior, Jake the Snake, Bruno Sammartino and who knows who else at WMXXX.

[BigCatDaddy]

Not to mention he's 54 years old.

So now WWE will have Hogan, Sting, The Ultimate Warrior, Jake the Snake, Bruno Sammartino and who knows who else at WMXXX.

I could probably stomach a one time Blade Runners reunion just for the nostalgia of it.

[Big Poppa Payne]

I could probably stomach a one time Blade Runners reunion just for the nostalgia of it.

ROFL

I forgot Warrior and Sting were tag partners. That's too funny

[big nasty kcnut]

Punk didn't quit he needed to get out of wwe for awhile. Punk is like a artist when you conform to someone else needs it stifle your creativity and you need to get away to get your creativity back.

[Big Poppa Payne]

Punk didn't quit he needed to get out of wwe for awhile. Punk is like a artist when you conform to someone else needs it stifle your creativity and you need to get away to get your creativity back.


Here is what I read about it, I'm sure you're right. I bet these guys get burnt out all the time with their crazy work schedules and being on the road 300+ days a year.




- As noted, CM Punk has been removed from WWE events going forward after reportedly informing Vince McMahon at Monday's RAW that he was going home. Punk reportedly told Vince and other WWE officials this in a meeting before the show went on the air.

While Punk vs. Triple H was planned for WrestleMania XXX, word now is that Triple H will be facing Daniel Bryan in New Orleans this April.

While Punk is under contract through July, he is no longer factored into company plans. According to one source, the original script for Monday's RAW had Punk losing to Antonio Cesaro after Kane interfered, allowing Cesaro to qualify for the Elimination Chamber. Another source denies that and says Punk was never scheduled to wrestle Monday night and was only scheduled for an in-ring promo at Kane. Punk was not backstage during RAW and was not at SmackDown last night. It's believed that the late RAW re-write at 6pm on Monday was because Punk had just informed officials he was going home and wouldn't be back.

Punk leaving is being described as a situation where he's unhappy and burnt out with the overall direction of the company. There's also a feeling among wrestlers that Punk has saved his money and just doesn't need it any more, even the big WrestleMania payday that was coming up.

Following the Royal Rumble on Sunday, Punk's mood was described as "pissy" but that's not an unusual description of Punk's demeanor backstage. One source believed that since Punk's last goal was to work a WrestleMania main event, it may be a situation where he realized it wasn't going to happen this year and with his WWE deal expiring in July, that may have weighed down upon him because he was so goal driven and this was one he couldn't accomplish because of elements that were outside of his control.

Punk wrote the following on Twitter Monday:

"Thanks for all the support. Keep being you guys, it's pretty cool."

[BigCatDaddy]

Anyone else prefer an Undertaker vs Bray Wyatt mania match as opposed to Sting or Brock?

[Big Poppa Payne]

Anyone else prefer an Undertaker vs Bray Wyatt mania match as opposed to Sting or Brock?

I like Bray Wyatt but I think Undertaker/Sting would be billed as a much bigger match. However, what I've learned from the WWE since the "attitude" era ended is they don't really care what the fans want to see.

[Reaper16]

This could be a work. It's just true enough to what we expect from Punk to make us believe it. I'd be pissed too if Batista, who can't work and has no conditioning, took my Wrestlemania headlining spot.

To address something CoMo said earlier: part of the reason that you think WWE has no star power or 'legends' from the last decade is because of WWE's propensity to bring back old wrestlers for feature matches during Mania time. They do so because they want PPV buys from people who no longer actively watch wrestling but might order something where someone they remember (The Rock, Batista, whoever) is wrestling.

That short-term thinking leads to people thinking that WWE has a lack of talent, because the signal sent is that the company doesn't care about or trust its younger guys.

But that is so far removed from the objective truth of the matter, which is that WWE has more talent on its roster today than it EVER has at any point in its history. They're just hesitant to let it shine to its fullest.

[mcaj22]

you'll be able to tell if it's a work or not very easily

Punks girlfriend has been the longest reigning Womens champ, do they now instantly take it away? Bury her because of her boyfriend? Does she stand by her man? AJ is the only diva on the roster that brings in any revenue.

One of Punks best friends was rumored to sign for the WWE Network? What happens there?

Stone Cold walked out like this one time because he was unhappy with the programming and Vince buried him on television, and Stone Cold was like Vinces biggest cash cow ever.

You will never get one over on Vince or Triple H and they will go out of their way to bury you in promos, your family, friends, everything. They will take plenty of shots at him on television, just watch.

[Reaper16]

you'll be able to tell if it's a work or not very easily

Punks girlfriend has been the longest reigning Womens champ, do they now instantly take it away? Bury her because of her boyfriend? Does she stand by her man? AJ is the only diva on the roster that brings in any revenue.

One of Punks best friends was rumored to sign for the WWE Network? What happens there?

Stone Cold walked out like this one time because he was unhappy with the programming and Vince buried him on television, and Stone Cold was like Vinces biggest cash cow ever.

You will never get one over on Vince or Triple H and they will go out of their way to bury you in promos, your family, friends, everything. They will take plenty of shots at him on television, just watch.

Well, AJ did get pinned on Raw because she got touched by a butt.

Seriously though, great points.

[mcaj22]

I think the question is, is what is "headlining" Wrestlemania to Punk? or a fan for that matter?

I'm not sure Punk wants to even wrestle the Cenas, Ortons and Batistsas or the world for the belt, as any sort of belt match has been overshadowed by Taker matches for the last ___ years now.

So what were the definition of headlining?

*Ending Takers streak
*match with Stone Cold
*would 54 year old Sting even be attractive?
*Obviously not wrestling Kane or being buried by Triple H again is an option here in Punks eyes

so unless he gets bailed out by Stone Cold (not this year), I can't see any match Punk would like to be in where he is happy.

[Reaper16]

I think the question is, is what is "headlining" Wrestlemania to Punk? or a fan for that matter?

I'm not sure Punk wants to even wrestle the Cenas, Ortons and Batistsas or the world for the belt, as any sort of belt match has been overshadowed by Taker matches for the last ___ years now.

So what were the definition of headlining?

*Ending Takers streak
*match with Stone Cold
*would 54 year old Sting even be attractive?
*Obviously not wrestling Kane or being buried by Triple H again is an option here in Punks eyes

so unless he gets bailed out by Stone Cold (not this year), I can't see any match Punk would like to be in where he is happy.

Well, the dirtsheet reports indicate that headlining, to Punk, meant literally headlining. If we believe them & their suggestions that, pre-Batista, Punk was set to win the Rumble and wrestle Orton for the strap[s].

[Big Poppa Payne]

Well, the dirtsheet reports indicate that headlining, to Punk, meant literally headlining. If we believe them & their suggestions that, pre-Batista, Punk was set to win the Rumble and wrestle Orton for the strap[s].

While I think Punk has definitely more than paid his dues what he should do is count his lucky stars and not look a gift horse in the mouth. He's notorious for these temper-tantrums and I think Vince is sick of it. He should shut-up, count his blessings and his money, bang that little hot ass AJ Lee some more and wrestle whoever the WWE tells him to wrestle.

[mcaj22]

Well, the dirtsheet reports indicate that headlining, to Punk, meant literally headlining. If we believe them & their suggestions that, pre-Batista, Punk was set to win the Rumble and wrestle Orton for the strap[s].

Actually come to think of it, you are right. Punk did that interview with that MMA dude in his house right before the Rumble and Punk said the Rumble is his favorite pay per view. So I can see him wanting to win the Rumble, and wanting to win it at #1 ala 2004 the Rumble that does not exist anymore.

And I mean I guess Punk has a point, a few years ago THE MIZ HEADLINED WRESTLEMANIA FOR GOODNESS SAKE. And that is really pathetic to think about.

[BryanBusby]

Well, the dirtsheet reports indicate that headlining, to Punk, meant literally headlining. If we believe them & their suggestions that, pre-Batista, Punk was set to win the Rumble and wrestle Orton for the strap[s].
dirtsheets are wrong most of the time

The one thing I do know is Punk has hardly had any time off in a long while and you could tell he was seriously hurting in the Rumble.

[keg in kc]

He reportedly left immediately before raw. I'd say that sounds more like "fuck this bullshit I'm going home" than "man, I'm beat up, gonna take some time off".

[Big Poppa Payne]

For what it's worth, WWE's Twitter account unfollowed CM Punk today. TMZ has picked up on reports of Punk walking out on WWE and say he has no plans on returning. Here is an excerpt of what they reported:

"WWE superstar CM Punk is QUITTING the organization, TMZ Sports has learned ... and sources tell us it's all because he's PISSED over the way the company wants to use him at "WrestleMania."

Sources close to the situation tell TMZ Sports ... Punk was livid when he learned officials scripted Batista to win the Royal Rumble ... because he feels Batista isn't in great wrestling shape and shouldn't be featured in the title match at the upcoming WrestleMania (the biggest event of the year).

We're told Punk feels he earned the right to be in the main event at WrestleMania -- because he's been wrestling tirelessly over the past year from house shows to overseas events. Punk was angry when he found out he'd be wrestling Triple H at WrestleMania instead of squaring off in the title match.

Sources say ... Punk -- whose contract is up in July -- made the decision to leave WWE after "Monday Night Raw" -- and we're told that right now, he's very serious about his decision and has no plans to return."

[Sassy Squatch]

LMAO Batista just fucking everything up.

[mcaj22]

who knows at this point, everyone is reporting something different of how the constant of he is gone came about, and it looks his mind was made up well before what went down at the Royal Rumble/Raw, and was probably gone in July anyway.

WrestlingINC.com reports that one of their readers attended CM Punk's Wizard World Q&A in Portland, Oregon this past weekend and said he doesn't think Sting should come to WWE because he doesn't have anything left in the tank and would again take away from the younger Superstars. Punk called Batista a friend but said he didn't feel the time was right for Batista to return because it was so unfair to take away from the other wrestlers who work hard everyday.

Punk said he's been frustrated with WWE's direction and feels the writers aren't in touch with what fans want. He's good money-wise and hasn't really spent much money so he's not worried about receiving a paycheck.

Punk said he's interested in UFC if his body can handle it but right now he doesn't think his body is in any shape for it. He said he's been really sick, especially September through November of last year. He's had weekly MRI's and blood work done but doctors can't figure out what's wrong. He started eating meat again and is starting to feel better but isn't close to 100%.

[58kcfan89]

God, this sucks. I know he hasn't been in a great spot for the last few months (year? hasn't been the same since he jobbed to Rocky & Taker last year IMO), but his Summer of Punk run a couple years ago really got me invested again (I never stopped watching, but I didn't care very much).

I can't blame him a damn bit for being pissed off. I get why Rock got the ME the last couple years, people who aren't fans anymore might actually consider buying a PPV to watch him, either because of his stardom or nostalgia. But no one in their right goddamned mind is going to come back to wrestling to buy a PPV just because Batista came back. Especially if he's wrestling Robo-Orton 5000.

I don't see how Vince & the powers that be didn't think something like this would happen. These guys have worked 300+ days a year for years to get to this spot. Bryan/Punk (among others) have shown the ability to step up when given the opportunity (which rarely happens). Batista has spent most of the last 4 years being a shitty actor in D-grade movies and shitting on wrestling and wrestling fans. And within six days, he's given the biggest spot of the year. It's unbelievable. Punk can't be the only one pissed about this.

I was excited for the new Network. But sweet jebus this is annoying. I can at least take some solace in the fact that I didn't shell out a ton of money to travel to NOLA this year.

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/rant

[keg in kc]

The positive of all this, and I think it is a positive, is that it puts Danielson directly into a major program with HHH. Hopefully he isn't just jobbed. Again.

[Sassy Squatch]

The positive of all this, and I think it is a positive, is that it puts Danielson directly into a major program with HHH. Hopefully he isn't just jobbed. Again.
Either great or horrible news.

[Big Poppa Payne]

Either great or horrible news.

They need to let DB win the strap at the elimination chamber ppv and hold it until at least summer slam. That's the only way they can fix this mess.

[mcaj22]

what are they going to do when WM is over and all these guys leave? Batista goes off to do a movie or promote one, he can take time off for movies, he has that clause despite a full schedule 2 year contract.

Sting is 54 years old. Hogan couldn't pass a physical. Who is going to carry this roster in June, July, August, and then when the NFL comes back and shits all over them in the fall?

Guys like Punk and DB and Dolph ,etc bust their ass for those 9 months out of the year, to keep Vince's product afloat during the downtime.

It will be interesting to see after WM if people tune out really quickly. It will also be interesting how many Punk chants happen at the RAW after WM, that is usually the most poppin RAW during the year because all the older elitist marks buy all the tickets the day after they go to WM.

[58kcfan89]

The positive of all this, and I think it is a positive, is that it puts Danielson directly into a major program with HHH. Hopefully he isn't just jobbed. Again.

Either great or horrible news.

Meh. He should be in the main event. The fact that they were rumored to have him originally wrestle Sheamus blows my mind. If he can't get a big break at the biggest show of the year when he's this over, what the hell more does he have to do?

what are they going to do when WM is over and all these guys leave? Batista goes off to do a movie or promote one, he can take time off for movies, he has that clause despite a full schedule 2 year contract.

Sting is 54 years old. Hogan couldn't pass a physical. Who is going to carry this roster in June, July, August, and then when the NFL comes back and shits all over them in the fall?

Guys like Punk and DB and Dolph ,etc bust their ass for those 9 months out of the year, to keep Vince's product afloat during the downtime.

It will be interesting to see after WM if people tune out really quickly. It will also be interesting how many Punk chants happen at the RAW after WM, that is usually the most poppin RAW during the year because all the older elitist marks buy all the tickets the day after they go to WM.

Same thing they always do. The John Cena Show for 9 months.

[keg in kc]

Either great or horrible news.I think it's better news than had it been the original Punk/HHH program. Punk was probably leaving in July regardless. Meaning he'd have jobbed at wrestlemania. I think HHH puts Bryan over. Which puts him in position to be one of the guys carrying the promotion through the summer and fall.

In a perfect world he drops the beard at some point and becomes american dragon again.

Now, what I expect they'll do is make Sheamus the man (because he's big, and that's still all they care about), and continue to job Danielson until he retires.

[mcaj22]

Triple H is squashing whoever he faces at WM unless its Taker or some 50 year old

[Sassy Squatch]

I don't get why Bryan and Punk teaming up against HHH and Michaels wasn't the original plan.

[BryanBusby]

He reportedly left immediately before raw. I'd say that sounds more like "fuck this bullshit I'm going home" than "man, I'm beat up, gonna take some time off".
He knew the overall plan well before the Rumble and would of burned out before the PPV if he was that pissed. I'd bet on this being a work and he's getting some much needed time off.

Although it'd be the ultimate troll move by WWE to hire Colt if it wasn't a work lol

The positive of all this, and I think it is a positive, is that it puts Danielson directly into a major program with HHH. Hopefully he isn't just jobbed. Again.
Lets not pretend this isn't going to be the result:
http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/6228/triplehshovelz.gif

In other hilarious news, TNA has rehired Vince Russo.

[Sassy Squatch]

He knew the overall plan well before the Rumble and would of burned out before the PPV if he was that pissed. I'd bet on this being a work and he's getting some much needed time off.

Although it'd be the ultimate troll move by WWE to hire Colt if it wasn't a work lol


Lets not pretend this isn't going to be the result:
http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/6228/triplehshovelz.gif

In other hilarious news, TNA has rehired Vince Russo.
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Y9-rWLU9e-w/USEUHvOpdAI/AAAAAAAAAEE/4bzZWDetBCI/s320/HHH.gif

[Reaper16]

Now there's speculation that Punk's leave is concussion related.

[Mav]

Now there's speculation that Punk's leave is concussion related.

I like punk. But he has these little hissy fits a lot it seems

[Swanman]

You will never get one over on Vince or Triple H and they will go out of their way to bury you in promos, your family, friends, everything. They will take plenty of shots at him on television, just watch.

Punk already did once, during the MitB PPV in Chicago. He got everything he wanted and more when he signed the new contract literally mid-ppv. Once in a blue moon, talent transcends Vince's roid freak fetish.

[big nasty kcnut]

I want punk healthy he's too good of a guy to get sick i want him to have a good life.

[Al Bundy]

http://www.jrsbarbq.com/blog/jrs-talks-cm-punk-situation

[TLO]

I was just flipping through the channels and saw that Goldust is on Raw tonight. Yeah, no thanks.

[Sassy Squatch]

I was just flipping through the channels and saw that Goldust is on Raw tonight. Yeah, no thanks.
That dude can go for his age.

[Big Poppa Payne]

That dude can go for his age.

He changed up his makeup.

[TLO]

Watching Bryan v Orton now. Who is the "Authority"?

[Reaper16]

I was just flipping through the channels and saw that Goldust is on Raw tonight. Yeah, no thanks.

Your loss. Dustin is wrestling better than he EVER has. He's pulling off Yoshi Tonics and top-rope ranas and shit. DDP Yoga has done wonders for his athleticism.

[Simply Red]

I like punk. But he has these little hissy fits a lot it seems

I like earlier punk, I never got real experimental with punk, I worked in conjunction w/ late eighties ditch skaters. I'd say The Circle Jerks were pretty darned known then, as was DK. I never drifted off in that genre, like I have others.

[TLO]

Your loss. Dustin is wrestling better than he EVER has. He's pulling off Yoshi Tonics and top-rope ranas and shit. DDP Yoga has done wonders for his athleticism.

I don't watch wrestling very often. I just remember being freaked out by Golddust when I was younger. And the guy that always walked out in a towl.

[TLO]

Oh, and Mr. Ass. He freaked me out too.

So nobody answered me, who or what is the "Authority"?Oh

[Big Poppa Payne]

I don't watch wrestling very often. I just remember being freaked out by Golddust when I was younger. And the guy that always walked out in a towl.

LMAO

Val Venus.

[Big Poppa Payne]

Oh, and Mr. Ass. He freaked me out too.

So nobody answered me, who or what is the "Authority"?Oh

I think it's HHH and Stephanie McMahon.

[BigCatDaddy]

Wow. I never knew Terri Runnels was Miss Alexandria York. Crazy.

[TLO]

LMAO

Val Venus.

LMAO, Yes, Val Venus.

Cool to see Bryan win.

[TLO]

Is that the same ... oh, I guess it is the same Kane. Weird.

[Big Poppa Payne]

Wow. I never knew Terri Runnels was Miss Alexandria York. Crazy.

Isn't she golddust's wife?

[Big Poppa Payne]

LMAO, Yes, Val Venus.

Cool to see Bryan win.

Yeah I like Bryan.. I think they had to do that or they would lose the crowd at all of their live events. I guess the audience has been chanting CM Punk and Daniel Bryan's names non-stop during other matches.

[BigCatDaddy]

Isn't she golddust's wife?

Used to be. According to Wiki she bounced a round a bit. Married her life coach for 2 weeks, then was with a dude 15 years younger than her for 5 years and then moved on to NewJack for a year or two who was selling her nudes after a split.

[Big Poppa Payne]

Used to be. According to Wiki she bounced a round a bit. Was with a dude 15 years younger than her for 5 years and than moved on to NewJack who was selling her nudes LMAO

God love her. I wanna see some of those nudes.


Damn.. Nevermind I saw some pics of her post golddust and she went downhill fast, she's gross.

[BryanBusby]

FYI: WWE Network starts on Monday morning and the first week will be a free trial.

[Simply Red]

Hacksaw.

[Ceej]

RIP Mabel, Viscera.

[BryanBusby]

"Hard to believe he died of heart failure"

-Said nobody

[BryanBusby]

Elimination Chamber starts in 20 minutes.

http://sportsbun.com/stream-4/

[chiefs1111]

Jake the snake has Cancer. Sad news

[chiefs1111]

http://www.tmz.com/2014/02/23/jake-the-snake-roberts-cancer-tumor-knee-surgery/

[BryanBusby]

Wyatts/Shield match is really fucking good

E: Easily a MotY contender.

[TimBone]

That was spectacular.

[Reaper16]

Shield vs Wyatts made me so happy in the way that only a great wrestling match can.

[BryanBusby]

nice of them to follow up with probably the worst match of the year

[Al Bundy]

I don't think the crowd liked that outcome at all.

[Reaper16]

Vince is just too stubborn to admit that his Batista/Orton plan for Mania is a bad one, and he's going to dig in his heels for no good reason even though the crowd is going to shit all over that main event.

[BryanBusby]

Beyond the fuck you finish, the chamber match was actually surprisingly good. Wyatt/Shield was fantastic. Big E/Swagger was decent and the rest sucked.

There's my review.

E: I'd suggest watching DelRio/Bootista just to watch the crowd shit on them.

[TimBone]

Bryan will end up in the Wrestlemania main event somehow.

[TimBone]

I don't care how stubborn Vince is....He has to know that Orton/Batista is not good for business.

[TimBone]

Shield vs Wyatts made me so happy in the way that only a great wrestling match can.

That whole feud, the build up/match was as good as any I've ever seen in the WWE.

[58kcfan89]

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Wasn't a horrible PPV by any means, certainly better than the Rumble, if only for the 6-man tag. I'm not a huge tag team guy (unless it's mid-2000s TLC matches), but that was intense. Second PPV in a row Bray Wyatt's been involved in the MOTN. Would love to see him go over Cena in NO, but I know better than that.

Didn't think the Chamber match itself was bad, except for Roborton 3000 winning. Cesaro seems to be really over, which is good, he needs to break away from that hack Swagger.

I'm a huge Bryan fan. But a (small) part of me wants to see Orton vs. Bootista, just to see how much the crowd totally shits on it.

My bet is Vince goes with Plan A, we get Blandy vs. Bootista as the main event (which, on paper, has to be one of the worst ever) and Bryan gets Kane/HHH. I hope I'm wrong and they find a way to get him in the main event. Maybe Hogan finds some way to politic DB in tomorrow night? It'd be a way to get smarks to actually cheer for Hogan, if only for a little bit...


In related news, Mick Foley doesn't seem too happy...

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[BryanBusby]

WELL YOU SEE BROTHER, ALL THESE HULKAMANIACS WANNA SEE BATISTA AND RANDY ORH-TUN FACE OFF IN DA SQUARED CIRCLE

BY THE WAY, BROTHER, DID I EVER TELL YOU I TURNED DOWN A SPOT IN METALLICA? BROTHER.

[Big Poppa Payne]

Levesque made sure all of his buddies won tonight didn't he?

[58kcfan89]

WELL YOU SEE BROTHER, ALL THESE HULKAMANIACS WANNA SEE BATISTA AND RANDY ORH-TUN FACE OFF IN DA SQUARED CIRCLE

BY THE WAY, BROTHER, DID I EVER TELL YOU I TURNED DOWN A SPOT IN METALLICA? BROTHER.

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Levesque made sure all of his buddies won tonight didn't he?

http://fc00.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2013/232/0/0/triple_h_bury_poster_by_skilled97-d6j0b5w.pngYep.

[BryanBusby]

I don't think anyone expected them to start hotshotting titles around right before Wrestlemania, but man that EC finish was a big wet fart. Dead crowd is the worst result.

The Main Event is going to be a big wet fart too with boos echoing allover the inside of a dome.

[Big Poppa Payne]

Rajah.com is claiming there will be a title change on RAW tomorrow night, you'd have to assume Bryan wins the strap.

They won't be able to sell Batista/Orton as the main event at WM30. If Vince didn't already know that, he does now after the crowds reactions tonight.

[58kcfan89]

No pun intended, but Bryan finally winning the belt on a random Raw wouldn't be best for business IMO. Ideally, you'd have the face chasing the heel going into Mania. Obviously, we're past the point of ideal situations seeing as how they've booked themselves into a huge corner, but it's just a thought. I think more people would be likely to buy WM/Network if it was Bryan with a chance to win the belt there instead of just defending it.

That said, I'll take what I can get. It's sad that a guy who's so freaking over with EVERYONE has had to work so hard and still hasn't been given a real shot. I understand the concept of a slow burn & trying to draw out his popularity as long as you can, but they're really risking losing his heat if they keep this up. Randy vs. Dave might be the final straw for some people.

And whoever the idiot is who didn't want Summerslam going off the air with Bryan as the champ should be fired. Same with whomever thought that people would rush to buy Wrestlemania to see Dave Batista in the main event. Those were your chances to make Bryan a star. Give him the clean win over Cena at SS and let him keep the damn belt for more than 5 minutes (literally). Or let him win the Rumble and main event your biggest show of the year.

At some point, they're going to have to rely on someone other than Cena & part-timers to sell tickets, PPV buys & t-shirts, right?

[Big Poppa Payne]

No pun intended, but Bryan finally winning the belt on a random Raw wouldn't be best for business IMO. Ideally, you'd have the face chasing the heel going into Mania. Obviously, we're past the point of ideal situations seeing as how they've booked themselves into a huge corner, but it's just a thought. I think more people would be likely to buy WM/Network if it was Bryan with a chance to win the belt there instead of just defending it.

That said, I'll take what I can get. It's sad that a guy who's so freaking over with EVERYONE has had to work so hard and still hasn't been given a real shot. I understand the concept of a slow burn & trying to draw out his popularity as long as you can, but they're really risking losing his heat if they keep this up. Randy vs. Dave might be the final straw for some people.

And whoever the idiot is who didn't want Summerslam going off the air with Bryan as the champ should be fired. Same with whomever thought that people would rush to buy Wrestlemania to see Dave Batista in the main event. Those were your chances to make Bryan a star. Give him the clean win over Cena at SS and let him keep the damn belt for more than 5 minutes (literally). Or let him win the Rumble and main event your biggest show of the year.

At some point, they're going to have to rely on someone other than Cena & part-timers to sell tickets, PPV buys & t-shirts, right?


I agree with you that it wouldn't make a lot of sense for a title change on a random RAW but I think they are building this up as the biggest RAW they've had in quite some time. Hogan is coming back, the Nature Boy will be there and there is also rumors that the Undertaker will be there as well. Also, sometime between now and WM30 the Ulimate Warrior will be making an appearance.

If Bryan doesn't win the belt before WM30 then he will more than likely win a match to get him into the main event with Boreton and Boretista.

[Reaper16]

Can't wait to see Undertaker ride in on a motorcycle tomorrow. *biggest eyeroll in world history*

[Reaper16]

I totally agree that a title change is unnecessary tomorrow. What needs to happen is jettisoning Batista off of the card somehow. Bryan going over at Mania needs to be the endgame, so I will tolerate him being inserted into the main event for a triple threat.

At the worst, Bryan going over on HHH will feel somewhat satisfying. Bryan v Kane however is a waste of time.

[Sassy Squatch]

I remember reading that if HHH and Bryan wrestle HHH is going over.

[Reaper16]

I remember reading that if HHH and Bryan wrestle HHH is going over.

I am going to be in New Orleans that weekend and I will do my best to actually start a riot if that happens.

[BryanBusby]

HHH going over? Well, I never.....

[Jerm]

WWE Network time.....

[TLO]

I remember reading that if HHH and Bryan wrestle HHH is going over.

What does that mean? Sorry, I'm a wrestling n00b.

[otherstar]

What does that mean? Sorry, I'm a wrestling n00b.

It means that HHH would win.

[BryanBusby]

Managed to get an account made, but it's currently impossible to get a subscription started.

[Jerm]

Yes this is awesome...what a time suck this is gonna be.

The sadist in me wants to watch WCW World War III for some reason...

[Big Poppa Payne]

Managed to get an account made, but it's currently impossible to get a subscription started.

They sent me an email saying they are having "technical problems", Vince must of hired the same people that set up the obamacare website.

[Jerm]

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Content overload....sooo much wrestling....

[BryanBusby]

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nsfw