Chris Chambers traded to San Diego

[cmh6476]

http://www.fftodayforums.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=296160

for 2nd round pick in 2008

[Amnorix]

Yes.

That sucks on many levels...

[KurtCobain]

o h f u c k

atleast rivers still sucks

[Amnorix]

Sorry, forgot the other link:

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/7340346

[HemiEd]

That would suck.

[Amnorix]

If they trade Jason Taylor to the Steelers or Colts, I'm going to personally shoot Cam Cameron in the head...

[talastan]

Doesn't affect us if Rivers gets pissy when Jared Allen puts him to the ground two or three times a game. Get in his face often and he just seems to have a meltdown.

[Amnorix]

That would suck.

Not "would"...."does":


Chambers confirmed the trade in an email to FOXSports, but declined further comment until speaking with Dolphins coach Cam Cameron and general manager Randy Mueller.

(my link above)

[siberian khatru]

Trent REALLY should retire now.

[ChiefsCountry]

I have him on my fantsay team, doubt that is good bc in Miami he is the only option dang it.

[KurtCobain]

Trent REALLY should retire now.

Maybe he should hope to be traded to the chargers.

The definition of targets:

Jackson
Davis
Tomlinson
Gates
Chambers


any QB will look good with this lineup.

[Amnorix]

I have him on my fantsay team, doubt that is good bc in Miami he is the only option dang it.

Nah, Chambers will do fine. He'll be the #1 guy at WR, and with Gates and LT drawing attention, he'll be perfectly fine.

Damn, damn, damn, damn....

[The Franchise]

The Chargers will only have one first day pick next year.

[Wa-Z]

Gates, LT, Chambers...and their other 2 WRs...looks scary!

[cmh6476]

so with SD on a bye this week, I expect Chambers should start next week versus Houston?

[Mr. Flopnuts]

Why in the mother**** do we NEVER EVAR make moves like this? A 2nd rounder for Chris Chambers? Mother**** me.

[cmh6476]

Why in the mother**** do we NEVER EVAR make moves like this? A 2nd rounder for Chris Chambers? Mother**** me.
we dont have enough picks to give any away

[Wa-Z]

Is Cam Cameron still part of the Chargers?

[wutamess]

Am I the only one that doesn't think this is that good of a deal for SD? This deal doesn't scare me at all.

Rivers is still Rivers doesn't matter who you've got for him to throw the ball to. He still sucks.

[KurtCobain]

Am I the only one that doesn't think this is that good of a deal for SD? This deal doesn't scare me at all.

Rivers is still Rivers doesn't matter who you've got for him to throw the ball to. He still sucks.

bing o

[tk13]

I think I'd rather keep the 2nd round pick. It'll be another weapon, but I think we can still beat them in Arrowhead.

[Valiant]

Is Cam Cameron still part of the Chargers?


Dolphins coach

[Chief Faithful]

I know Chambers exceeded his rookie expectations, but I have never been that impressed. What does he bring to SD that is better than what they already have? From my limited viewing he showed average hands, average speed, and ran average routes. Maybe you guys who have seen him more can comment.

[banyon]

High pick, but good "win now" trade for SD and "rebuilding" for MIA.

[ct]

Personally I like it. SD gave up a quality draft choice for yet another underachiever WR.

[Zouk]

Over-rated player. Lots of drops.

[beer bacon]

Why in the mother**** do we NEVER EVAR make moves like this? A 2nd rounder for Chris Chambers? Mother**** me.

If we just mortgaged our future every season, we would never lose!

[ROYC75]

Mother Pusbucket .........

No wait, a # 2, for a WR that has not lived up to his potential, with Phillip Rivers throwing the ball ?

The Chargers are reaching ......

[ceebz]

meh, put Rivers on his back and it won't matter who he's got out there.

[Hoover]

I think its a good trade for them, but I don't think its like giving Tom Brady Randy Moss.

Plus they will still continue to pass the ball to LT and Gates who are one of the top Pass Recieving combos in the league.

[donkhater]

You gotta give it to the Chargers. They're finding a better class of reciever for Rivers to overthrow.

[alpha_omega]

Personally I like it. SD gave up a quality draft choice for yet another underachiever WR.


Exactly!

[Simply Red]

Guys you're all forgetting; WE HAVE SIPPIO!! jeez!

[chop]

Over-rated player. Lots of drops.

I agree.

[The Franchise]

It's not like he becomes the #1 target. We all know that Gates and Tomlinson are the first receivers that Rivers looks for.

[donkhater]

Da-vid Bos-ton Clap, clap, clap-clap-clap
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Da-vid Bos-ton Clap, clap, clap-clap-clap

[beach tribe]

Over rated.

[Bill Lundberg]

http://www.fftodayforums.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=296160

for 2nd round pick in 2008

That YOUNG GUNNS character is a cool mo fo :)

[Hootie]

Chambers is overrated...

[Hootie]

Spin off:

Do we pick up Ginn in fantasy?

[Bill Lundberg]

Spin off:

Do we pick up Ginn in fantasy?

Or is Booker worth more??

[richpjr]

Whether or not Chambers is overrated, just the threat of him will open things up more for Gates and LT and make the Chargers offense that much better.

[talastan]

meh, put Rivers on his back and it won't matter who he's got out there.

Agreed!! You just need to keep shaking up Rivers and the whole offense flounders. Secondly I would still try to stack an extra linemen up against LT because he is ALWAYS the man getting the ball. Whether its the run or the pass you shut LT down, you shut down Sandy Eggo!

I also believe Chambers is overrated.

[cmh6476]

i dont remember the whales vagina thing from weatherman, even though I have seen the movie. can someone catch me up to speed?

thanks

[Thig Lyfe]

Norv will crush his spirit. No worries.

[Bill Lundberg]

i dont remember the whales vagina thing from weatherman, even though I have seen the movie. can someone catch me up to speed?

thanks

Ron Burgundy: Discovered by the Germans in 1904, they named it San Diego, which of course in German means a whale's vagina.

Veronica Corningstone: No, there's no way that's correct.

Ron Burgundy: I'm sorry, I was trying to impress you. I don't know what it means. I'll be honest, I don't think anyone knows what it means anymore. Scholars maintain that the translation was lost hundreds of years ago.

[Thig Lyfe]

Ron Burgundy: Discovered by the Germans in 1904, they named it San Diego, which of course in German means a whale's vagina.

Veronica Corningstone: No, there's no way that's correct.

Ron Burgundy: I'm sorry, I was trying to impress you. I don't know what it means. I'll be honest, I don't think anyone knows what it means anymore. Scholars maintain that the translation was lost hundreds of years ago.

Heh. I like the quote, but I don't really understand the relevance.

EDIT: WAIT. So Ron is Norv and Veronica is Chambers?

[cmh6476]

Heh. I like the quote, but I don't really understand the relevance.


from the original link :)

[The Franchise]

San Diego now has a pick in the 1st round...and then nothing until the 5th.

[Sure-Oz]

Wow, good trade. So who is miami's #1 reciever, Marty Booker or does ginn jr come in now and suck

[richpjr]

San Diego now has a pick in the 1st round...and then nothing until the 5th.

Won't they get a 3rd round compensatory pick for Donnie Edwards?

[Hootie]

Won't they get a 3rd round compensatory pick for Donnie Edwards?
:banghead:

Probably.

Either way, San Diego has enough young studs where not having a lot of first days picks won't hurt them anyways...

[Basileus777]

The Chargers needed a WR, but a 2nd for Chambers is overpaying. Now they don't have a 2nd or 3rd round pick next year. Chambers is really inconsistent and has alot of drops. But this is their chance to win a Superbowl, so I understand the move.

I like the trade for the Dolphins. They are both bad and old, they should be actively trying to trade veterans.

[ChiefsGirl]

Won't they get a 3rd round compensatory pick for Donnie Edwards?

No. Edwards was not a restricted free agent.

[Hootie]

No. Edwards was not a restricted free agent.
It has nothing to do with whether a player is a restricted or an unrestricted free agent...

A team is eligible to receive compensatory draft picks if it is determined that they lost more or better players than they were able to acquire during the previous year's free agency period. The number of picks a team receives equals the net loss of compensatory free agents (maximum of four).

[Basileus777]

It has nothing to do with whether a player is a restricted or an unrestricted free agent...

A team is eligible to receive compensatory draft picks if it is determined that they lost more or better players than they were able to acquire during the previous year's free agency period. The number of picks a team receives equals the net loss of compensatory free agents (maximum of four).

I doubt it will be a 3rd though, Donnie wasn't given a massive contract.

[Hootie]

I doubt it will be a 3rd though, Donnie wasn't given a massive contract.
True, but I'm not sure if that's what they use to determine value of a player...it probably is...

Either way, Donnie is probably worth a 5th at the very least.

[Thig Lyfe]

It has nothing to do with whether a player is a restricted or an unrestricted free agent...

A team is eligible to receive compensatory draft picks if it is determined that they lost more or better players than they were able to acquire during the previous year's free agency period. The number of picks a team receives equals the net loss of compensatory free agents (maximum of four).

Nope.

[Hootie]

Nope.
Nope?

http://football.about.com/library/weekly/bl_draftcomp.htm?terms=compensatory+draft%20picks%20NFL

[Thig Lyfe]

Nope?

http://football.about.com/library/weekly/bl_draftcomp.htm?terms=compensatory+draft%20picks%20NFL

Nope.

[ChiefsGirl]

It has nothing to do with whether a player is a restricted or an unrestricted free agent...

A team is eligible to receive compensatory draft picks if it is determined that they lost more or better players than they were able to acquire during the previous year's free agency period. The number of picks a team receives equals the net loss of compensatory free agents (maximum of four).


There are two types of compensatory draft picks: (1) those forthcoming from a team that signs a restricted free agent away from his current team, and (2) those awarded by the league as a form of compensation for the loss of unrestricted free agents.

[Logical]

Nah, Chambers will do fine. He'll be the #1 guy at WR, and with Gates and LT drawing attention, he'll be perfectly fine.

Damn, damn, damn, damn....

You got nothing to worry about

Belicheck>>>>>>>Norv

[Molitoth]

good let SD give away thier youth.

[Delano]

This clown only catches 46 percent of the passes intended for him (241-for-523). Good luck Chargers.

[Bill Lundberg]

This clown only catches 46 percent of the passes intended for him (241-for-523). Good luck Chargers.

That is a meaningless stat when you consider who has been throwing to him and how many times he's double or triple covered. Just sayin

[KChiefs1]

That's a lot to give up for a guy who will only play 10 games this season...if he can learn some plays this week.

How long will it take him to get on the field?

[Bill Lundberg]

That's a lot to give up for a guy who will only play 10 games this season...if he can learn some plays this week.

How long will it take him to get on the field?

He'll be on the field right away. He's played under Norm in Miami so he knows the offense. The bye week will get him up to speed on terminology and he'll be ready to go. I think this is a good signing for them. It will make Gates and Tomlinson that much more dangerous.

[Basileus777]

That is a meaningless stat when you consider who has been throwing to him and how many times he's double or triple covered. Just sayin

Its not meaningless, if you watch him play you can tell that there is truth in that stat. Chambers has poor hands and is inconsistent at best, he is more of a #2 receiver than anything else. Even so, he is much better than Vincent Jackson.

[Mecca]

I think that's a pretty good move on their part, they'd have almost certainly used a 1st or 2nd on a WR in the draft anyhow.

Now he moves in, moves Jackson down to 2 and Davis down to 3. Then with their first day pick they can take a secondary player.

For a team like them it's a pretty solid move.

[HemiEd]

I wonder where Buckinkeading/pumperknickel is?

[Buck]

I wonder where Buckinkeading/pumperknickel is?

Right here, just got off work...

I don't know how any of you say this cant help our team.

[cmh6476]

Right here, just got off work...

I don't know how any of you say this cant help our team.
for the present year it obviously does. We'll see how it effects them down the road. Only having 1 first day pick next year could really hurt.

[Buck]

for the present year it obviously does. We'll see how it effects them down the road. Only having 1 first day pick next year could really hurt.

They're pretty much stacked for next year already though.

This year they didn't sign one Free Agent, they wont have to next year either.

[chiefsfan1963]

pretty hilarious reading the posts on this thread and it makes me realize why CP has a job still. The bottomline is the Chargers do what it takes to try to win. I respect what the GM in San Diego is trying to do. They may make mistakes but at least they are trying to shake things up.

Compare this to the pathetic example of a GM we have and his sad record the past 20 years.

Looking forward to his departure along with his staff.

[58-4ever]

I think that's a pretty good move on their part, they'd have almost certainly used a 1st or 2nd on a WR in the draft anyhow.

Now he moves in, moves Jackson down to 2 and Davis down to 3. Then with their first day pick they can take a secondary player.

For a team like them it's a pretty solid move.

Cromartie ROFL ROFL ROFL

[Hootie]

There are two types of compensatory draft picks: (1) those forthcoming from a team that signs a restricted free agent away from his current team, and (2) those awarded by the league as a form of compensation for the loss of unrestricted free agents.
so what exactly is your point?

[Hammock Parties]

Nice boost for my fantasy team. Moss, Plaxico, Chambers...

[cmh6476]

pretty hilarious reading the posts on this thread and it makes me realize why CP has a job still. The bottomline is the Chargers do what it takes to try to win. I respect what the GM in San Diego is trying to do. They may make mistakes but at least they are trying to shake things up.

Compare this to the pathetic example of a GM we have and his sad record the past 20 years.

Looking forward to his departure along with his staff.


we f*cking traded Michael Bennett!@#! MICHAEL FOCKING BENNETT!!!#@!

[Mecca]

Cromartie ROFL ROFL ROFL

2nd year, and everyone knew he was a developmental type of player...I still think he'll end up being a very good player but it will take some time.

[Hammock Parties]

2nd year, and everyone knew he was a developmental type of player...I still think he'll end up being a very good player but it will take some time.

Mostly because he wasn't drafted by the Chiefs...

[Mecca]

Mostly because he wasn't drafted by the Chiefs...

Oh yes because that really changes my opinion of players.....I didn't say anything negative about Dwayne Bowe.

Players I say bad things about are players I said that about before they were ever picked...I never liked the Pollard pick it's not like I just decided that because the Chiefs picked him.

[Hootie]

Oh yes because that really changes my opinion of players.....I didn't say anything negative about Dwayne Bowe.

Players I say bad things about are players I said that about before they were ever picked...I never liked the Pollard pick it's not like I just decided that because the Chiefs picked him.
did you say anything positive about Dwayne Bowe?

[Mecca]

did you say anything positive about Dwayne Bowe?

Sure, it was a fine pick, I said long before that draft where they were they'd be sitting in a spot that would likely lead to WR's being the best players available..

Then myself and some others were hit with the gang of people who thought Joe Staley was God, and yes I ripped on Joe Staley.

[Hootie]

Sure, it was a fine pick, I said long before that draft where they were they'd be sitting in a spot that would likely lead to WR's being the best players available..

Then myself and some others were hit with the gang of people who thought Joe Staley was God, and yes I ripped on Joe Staley.
so how painful is it to you, a pretend Chiefs fan, that the Chiefs may win the West this year?

[banyon]

so what exactly is your point?

I'm pretty sure it's that you're wrong. Not that you should be surprised by this anymore.

[Bugeater]

Right here, just got off work...

I don't know how any of you say this cant help our team.
Well, it's actually pretty easy. You just type the words into the "Post New Reply" box and then hit "submit reply".

[Buck]

Well, it's actually pretty easy. You just type the words into the "Post New Reply" box and then hit "submit reply".

Oh yeah...Well if you happen to type that in you are wrong.

[tk13]

This can't help our team.

[Mecca]

so how painful is it to you, a pretend Chiefs fan, that the Chiefs may win the West this year?

Ah yes you know.....following the team, posting here, spending time on Sunday, what a pretend fan I am.

[Hammock Parties]

The Chargers will only have one first day pick next year.

thats exactly what i was thinking. they're starting to go off desperation now it seems, abandoning the draft. Why would you give up a second rounder for the guy is beyond me lol.

[Mecca]

thats exactly what i was thinking. they're starting to go off desperation now it seems, abandoning the draft. Why would you give up a second rounder for the guy is beyond me lol.

Because WR is a huge need position for them?

They used a 1st rounder on Craig Davis...they're team is young, they can get away with that sorta move.

[Chiefs=Champions]

i think in the long run it wont be worth it, although i can see him having some game winning plays against the chiefs...

Really to give up a second rounder for a guy in his 30's (i think) dose show desperation and basically it’s saying that we need to win now or maybe next year or were done.

By the way Mecca's right in some ways, i remember aguing with him about how i thought we should take aron ross instead of a wr i was wrong. Although ross is doing quite nicely in New York.

[ferrarispider95]

I know if the Chiefs made this move, I would be pissed, not so much on acquiring Chambers, but giving up a 2nd round pick.

Especially, since Herm seems to be a decent evaluator of talent. The more picks the better.

[ferrarispider95]

Also AJ smith is going to be on the hot seat if they don't win this year. He is going to take all the blame for clashing with Marty. So it is a win at all cost attitude for him

[tk13]

Also AJ smith is going to be on the hot seat if they don't win this year. He is going to take all the blame for clashing with Marty. So it is a win at all cost attitude for him
That's probably a very good point. They have to make the playoffs. Although I don't think this move will help them beat New England. And I don't really think it'd get them past Indy either. But we'll see.

[Mecca]

They'd have had a better coach if ownership wouldn't have waited till the very last moment to ok the move...

AJ Smith is easily a top 5 GM in the game look at that team he's built from nothing, if he gets fired teams will line up.

[Mr. Flopnuts]

They'd have had a better coach if ownership wouldn't have waited till the very last moment to ok the move...

AJ Smith is easily a top 5 GM in the game look at that team he's built from nothing, if he gets fired teams will line up.



I'd love to see the Chiefs be one of those teams.

[HemiEd]

Right here, just got off work...

I don't know how any of you say this cant help our team.

Actually, I think it will and that sucks. I just wanted to hear you what had to say about it.

[chiefsfan1963]

it's looking good that our 5th (possibly 4th if Trent can still play) from Miami will be probably a Top 3 in that round.

WIth the bennett pick that we got we'll have at least 10 picks in next year's draft! This we'll go a long way in building this team up.

Now I hoping for a miracle that Clark wakes up one of these nights and starts to have passion and a desire to bring a few more SB's to KC and he realizes that he has to CLEAN HOUSE starting with the entire FROnt Office!

[Canton, Ohio]

http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/7493/sammybaughtk4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[Electric Chair]

Look at it like this...

By the time next years 2nd round pick pans out, LT is on the tail end of his career. Chambers was drafted the same year as LaDainian, and is exactly one year older. He's 29.

AJ Smith is putting all of his eggs into the next three years. The majority of our roster is signed through 2009, and a GOOD percentage (over 66%) of those are signed through 2011. AJ's focus is on surrounding LT with as much talent as possible to win NOW. For whoever thinks that AJ's job is in jeopardy- LOL. He is worshipped by ownership. He turned a perennial loser into one of the most well run and talented franchises in the NFL. Not to mention, AJ is an absolute WITCH when it comes to judging NFL talent and the Draft. Look at San Diego's AMAZING success with undrafted rookie free agents (Gates, Olivea, Dielman... The list goes on). He'll be here a LONG time, regardless of how this move turns out.

I don't even think it's a gamble. At worst, the Chargers are opening up more big plays for Gates and Tomlinson underneath. If it turns out to be a home run.... things could get interesting in San Diego. Especially once Rivers starts playing unconsciously (he has only had 23 NFL starts).