This week's rankings - Kansas 8, Mizzou 9

[keg in kc]

Both AP and Coaches' Poll. No BCS yet.

Never thought I'd see the day they're both top-10...

[Sure-Oz]

Suprised they went up only 1 spot this time.

MU at #9 wow i feel all warm and fuzzy since KU had that spot last week /sarcasm

Fair spotting though for both teams

[KChiefs1]

when does the BCS come out?

[Mr. Laz]

Suprised they went up only 1 spot this time.

MU at #9 wow i feel all warm and fuzzy since KU had that spot last week /sarcasm

Fair spotting though for both teams
wow, you've been a whiny beyotch lately.

[keg in kc]

BCS for 10/28 according to The OT on fox

1. Ohio State 9-0 .976
2. Boston College 8-0 .956
3. LSU 7-1 .888
4. Arizona State 8-0 .849
5. Oregon 7-1 .839
6. Oklahoma 7-1 .792
7. West Virginia 7-1 .776
8. Kansas 8-0 .772
9. Missouri 7-1 .610
10. Georgia 6-2 .582

[CupidStunt]

Boston College is a fraud... them being so high on account of their great undefeated season is amusing although expected.

I look for an OSU vs. Oklahoma/Oregon/LSU/WVU title game. I think OSU/LSU is the best matchup outta those five, but any with the possible exception of WVU, will make it close with a good shot to win.

[carlos3652]

THE BCS: A CLOSER LOOK
Here is this week's BCS Top 12, with the school, its spot in the coaches poll, its spot in the Harris poll and its BCS computer average. A bonus:

We've included NCAA schedule strength, which is not part of the BCS formula.
Team:
1. Ohio State T-56th
2. Boston College 42nd
3. LSU 18th
4. Arizona State T-74th
5. Oregon 12th
6. Oklahoma 55th
7. West Virginia T-74th
8. Kansas 63rd
9. Missouri 62nd
10. Georgia 21st
11. Virginia Tech 29th
12. Michigan 39th

http://collegefootball.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=732233

NOTE: Schedule strength is based only on games already played.

[Deberg_1990]

When was the last time these two were both ranked in the top 10??

[Spott]

When was the last time these two were both ranked in the top 10??


I'm guessing never in football.

[leviw]

I'm guessing never in football.

Wrong. The week of Oct. 9, 1976.

Crazy enough: KU was 8, MU was 9.

[Silock]

THE BCS: A CLOSER LOOK
Here is this week's BCS Top 12, with the school, its spot in the coaches poll, its spot in the Harris poll and its BCS computer average. A bonus:

We've included NCAA schedule strength, which is not part of the BCS formula.
Team:
1. Ohio State T-56th
2. Boston College 42nd
3. LSU 18th
4. Arizona State T-74th
5. Oregon 12th
6. Oklahoma 55th
7. West Virginia T-74th
8. Kansas 63rd
9. Missouri 62nd
10. Georgia 21st
11. Virginia Tech 29th
12. Michigan 39th

http://collegefootball.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=732233

NOTE: Schedule strength is based only on games already played.

If that's the case, then KU is criminally underrated.

[Spott]

Wrong. The week of Oct. 9, 1976.

Crazy enough: KU was 8, MU was 9.

Damn, I was only 4 then. No wonder I don't remember it.

[Sure-Oz]

wow, you've been a whiny beyotch lately.
Did you catch the 2nd part? I was being silly, i give props for KU, they continously should be ahead of MU as long as they keep winning, since we have 1 loss. I am honestly suprised though they went up 1 spot considering how they have gone up a few, MU went up 4 i believe.

[keg in kc]

Did you catch the 2nd part? I was being silly, i give props for KU, they continously should be ahead of MU as long as they keep winning, since we have 1 loss. I am honestly suprised though they went up 1 spot considering how they have gone up a few, MU went up 4 i believe.Only 1 team in front of them in the BCS lost (VPI).

They moved up 4 spots in the AP poll (all 4 teams in front of them lost - South Florida, Florida, USC and VPI) and 2 spots in the Coaches' poll (USC and VPI).

They have their destiny in their own hands now. They have 3 winnable games before they play Missouri (Noobraska and Iowa State at home, Oklahomer State on the road wedged in the middle). They really shouldn't lose any of them, but 2-1 wouldn't shock me either. In any case, they *should* be 10-1 or 11-0 going into the game at Arrowhead.

Mizzou has Colorado and Kansas State on the road, and A&M at home. All winnable games, as well.

11/24 should be for all the marbles.

[Bob Dole]

If that's the case, then KU is criminally underrated.

KU should clearly be Top 3. No question about it.

[beer bacon]

The BCS is retarded. Hawaii should be #1.

[Eleazar]

KU should clearly be Top 3. No question about it.

Well, yeah, if Nebraska punked them next week. They ought to be #0 otherwise.

[|Zach|]

wow, you've been a whiny beyotch lately.
Did he start whining when fans of other teams started posting on threads?

Until then... ROFL at you posting this.

[CoMoChief]

If that's the case, then KU is criminally underrated.
yeah because Toledo, Fla Intl, Cent Mich, and SE Louisiana is one hell of a non conference schedule. And I thought MU's was a cakewalk for the most part. Not to mention when all of this is said and done KU also doesnt have to play TX or OU.

[CoMoChief]

Did you catch the 2nd part? I was being silly, i give props for KU, they continously should be ahead of MU as long as they keep winning, since we have 1 loss.
In this case Hawaii and Connecticut should also be ahead of MU.

[Eleazar]

yeah because Toledo, Fla Intl, Cent Mich, and SE Louisiana is one hell of a non conference schedule. And I thought MU's was a cakewalk for the most part. Not to mention when all of this is said and done KU also doesnt have to play TX or OU.

I don't think either of these teams are going to beat OU.

[DaKCMan AP]

In this case Hawaii and Connecticut should also be ahead of MU.

Connecticut isn't undefeated.

[KcMizzou]

Wrong. The week of Oct. 9, 1976.

Crazy enough: KU was 8, MU was 9.LMAO

That's nuts.

I was 2.

[CoMoChief]

I don't think either of these teams are going to beat OU.
But Colorado can.

[CoMoChief]

Connecticut isn't undefeated.
oops, ur right i thought they were.

[KcMizzou]

I don't think either of these teams are going to beat OU.I wouldn't bet anything extremely important on it...

But on a neutral field, it wouldn't shock me if either team did.

[Skip Towne]

oops, ur right i thought they were.
The problem is you thought. Everytime you think you weaken the nation.

[Frazod]

THE BCS: A CLOSER LOOK
Here is this week's BCS Top 12, with the school, its spot in the coaches poll, its spot in the Harris poll and its BCS computer average. A bonus:

We've included NCAA schedule strength, which is not part of the BCS formula.
Team:

8. Kansas 63rd
9. Missouri 62nd

http://collegefootball.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=732233

NOTE: Schedule strength is based only on games already played.

Apparently whoever came up with these strength of schedule numbers is Kansas educated. What a bunch of bullshit. If Kansas's schedule is only one ranking higher than Missouri's, then I'm James T. Kirk of the Starship f#cking Enterprise. A non-conference schedule against Central Michigan, Southeast Louisiana, Toledo and Florida International, ALL IN LAWRENCE, is really just one notch below Illinois, Ole Miss (BOTH ON THE ROAD), Western Michigan and Illinois State? My ass. And apparently playing Baylor at home counts only a tad more than OKLAHOMA ON THE ROAD, too. Yeah, right.

This is pure, unadulterated bullshit.

:shake:

[BWillie]

Apparently whoever came up with these strength of schedule numbers is Kansas educated. What a bunch of bullshit. If Kansas's schedule is only one ranking higher than Missouri's, then I'm James T. Kirk of the Starship f#cking Enterprise. A non-conference schedule against Central Michigan, Southeast Louisiana, Toledo and Florida International, ALL IN LAWRENCE, is really just one notch below Illinois, Ole Miss (BOTH ON THE ROAD), Western Michigan and Illinois State? My ass. And apparently playing Baylor at home counts only a tad more than OKLAHOMA ON THE ROAD, too. Yeah, right.

This is pure, unadulterated bullshit.

:shake:

Here is another one from CBS sportsline. But no, the all mighty Frazod knows more than all.

http://www.sportsline.com/collegefootball/polls/119

ALL CONF
Rk School Pvs W L W L Last Next SOS AP Cs
1 Ohio State 1 9 0 5 0 W 37 - 17
Penn State Nov. 03
Wisconsin 46 1 1
2 Boston College 2 8 0 4 0 W 14 - 10
Virginia Tech Nov. 03
Florida State 36 2 2
3 Arizona State 7 8 0 5 0 W 31 - 20
California Nov. 03
@Oregon 48 6 6
4 LSU 3 7 1 4 1 W 30 - 24
Auburn Nov. 03
@Alabama 12 3 3
5 Oregon 5 7 1 4 1 W 24 - 17
Southern California Nov. 03
Arizona State 11 4 4
6 Oklahoma 4 7 1 3 1 W 17 - 7
Iowa State Nov. 03
Texas A&M 70 5 5
7 West Virginia 9 7 1 2 1 W 31 - 3
Rutgers Nov. 08
Louisville 62 7 7
8 Kansas 10 8 0 4 0 W 19 - 11
Texas A&M Nov. 03
Nebraska 51 8 8
9 Missouri 11 7 1 3 1 W 42 - 28
Iowa State Nov. 03
@Colorado 55 9 9
10 Hawaii 15 8 0 5 0 W 50 - 13
New Mexico State Nov. 10
Fresno State 120 12 11
11 Georgia 21 6 2 4 2 W 42 - 30
Florida Nov. 03
Troy 9 10 10
12 Virginia Tech 6 6 2 3 1 L 14 - 10
Boston College Nov. 01
@Georgia Tech 23 11 13
13 Alabama 18 6 2 4 1 W 41 - 17
Tennessee Nov. 03
LSU 20 17 18
14 Michigan 19 7 2 5 0 W 34 - 10
Minnesota Nov. 03
@Michigan State 32 15 14
15 Boise State 20 7 1 4 0 W 34 - 21
Fresno State Nov. 03
San Jose State 79 21 22
16 Texas 17 6 3 2 3 L 25 - 28
Nebraska Nov. 03
@Oklahoma State 84 14 12
17 Auburn 25 6 3 4 2 W 17 - 3
Mississippi Nov. 03
Tennessee Tech 18 19 16
18 Southern California 12 6 2 3 2 L 24 - 17
Oregon Nov. 03
Oregon State 102 13 15
19 Florida 8 5 3 3 3 L 42 - 30
Georgia Nov. 03
Vanderbilt 4 18 17
20 Connecticut 26 7 1 3 0 W 22 - 15
South Florida Nov. 03
Rutgers 50 16 20
21 Wake Forest 29 6 2 4 1 W 37 - 10
North Carolina Nov. 03
@Virginia 49 21 28
22 South Florida 13 6 2 1 2 L 22 - 15
Connecticut Nov. 03
Cincinnati 5 20 21
23 Clemson 36 6 2 3 2 W 30 - 17
Maryland Nov. 03
@Duke 30 25 24
24 Kentucky 14 6 3 2 3 L 31 - 14
Mississippi State Nov. 10
@Vanderbilt 25 28 23
25 Wisconsin 28 7 2 3 2 W 33 - 3
Indiana Nov. 03
@Ohio State 76 26 19
Updated: Sun Oct 28 15:54:04 EDT 2007
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[ROYC75]

yeah because Toledo, Fla Intl, Cent Mich, and SE Louisiana is one hell of a non conference schedule. And I thought MU's was a cakewalk for the most part. Not to mention when all of this is said and done KU also doesnt have to play TX or OU.

Oh brother, still on the schedule stuff ?

How about the last 4 games both teams have played ?

KU played , KSU 5-3,BU 3-6,CU 5-4,and aTm 6-3 for a 19-16 record.

MU played NU 4-5,OU 7-1,TT 6-3 and ISU 1-8 for a 18-19 record.

Does this make KU better or MU weaker ? NO, it's the way the schedules fall.....

This schedule crap is what you make of it to suit yourselves. So KU scheduled 4 cream puffs to jump start their season.....

MU schedule 3 of 4 cream puffs to start their season..... Does this make KU a weaker team ? NO, it's only what you make of it.....

Talking crap about schedules is only for your own perspective ..... So what, KU didn't have to play OU, Texas or TT this year, it wasn't our turn to.

MU better worry about CU and KSU before wanting to play KU ......

It's the MU fans that just can't wait till they play KU, as for KU, we take em 1 game at a time.......

Rock Chalk :KU:

[Valiant]

Here is another one from CBS sportsline. But no, the all mighty Frazod knows more than all.

http://www.sportsline.com/collegefootball/polls/119

ALL CONF
Rk School Pvs W L W L Last Next SOS AP Cs
1 Ohio State 1 9 0 5 0 W 37 - 17
Penn State Nov. 03
Wisconsin 46 1 1
2 Boston College 2 8 0 4 0 W 14 - 10
Virginia Tech Nov. 03
Florida State 36 2 2
3 Arizona State 7 8 0 5 0 W 31 - 20
California Nov. 03
@Oregon 48 6 6
4 LSU 3 7 1 4 1 W 30 - 24
Auburn Nov. 03
@Alabama 12 3 3
5 Oregon 5 7 1 4 1 W 24 - 17
Southern California Nov. 03
Arizona State 11 4 4
6 Oklahoma 4 7 1 3 1 W 17 - 7
Iowa State Nov. 03
Texas A&M 70 5 5
7 West Virginia 9 7 1 2 1 W 31 - 3
Rutgers Nov. 08
Louisville 62 7 7
8 Kansas 10 8 0 4 0 W 19 - 11
Texas A&M Nov. 03
Nebraska 51 8 8
9 Missouri 11 7 1 3 1 W 42 - 28
Iowa State Nov. 03
@Colorado 55 9 9
10 Hawaii 15 8 0 5 0 W 50 - 13
New Mexico State Nov. 10
Fresno State 120 12 11
11 Georgia 21 6 2 4 2 W 42 - 30
Florida Nov. 03
Troy 9 10 10
12 Virginia Tech 6 6 2 3 1 L 14 - 10
Boston College Nov. 01
@Georgia Tech 23 11 13
13 Alabama 18 6 2 4 1 W 41 - 17
Tennessee Nov. 03
LSU 20 17 18
14 Michigan 19 7 2 5 0 W 34 - 10
Minnesota Nov. 03
@Michigan State 32 15 14
15 Boise State 20 7 1 4 0 W 34 - 21
Fresno State Nov. 03
San Jose State 79 21 22
16 Texas 17 6 3 2 3 L 25 - 28
Nebraska Nov. 03
@Oklahoma State 84 14 12
17 Auburn 25 6 3 4 2 W 17 - 3
Mississippi Nov. 03
Tennessee Tech 18 19 16
18 Southern California 12 6 2 3 2 L 24 - 17
Oregon Nov. 03
Oregon State 102 13 15
19 Florida 8 5 3 3 3 L 42 - 30
Georgia Nov. 03
Vanderbilt 4 18 17
20 Connecticut 26 7 1 3 0 W 22 - 15
South Florida Nov. 03
Rutgers 50 16 20
21 Wake Forest 29 6 2 4 1 W 37 - 10
North Carolina Nov. 03
@Virginia 49 21 28
22 South Florida 13 6 2 1 2 L 22 - 15
Connecticut Nov. 03
Cincinnati 5 20 21
23 Clemson 36 6 2 3 2 W 30 - 17
Maryland Nov. 03
@Duke 30 25 24
24 Kentucky 14 6 3 2 3 L 31 - 14
Mississippi State Nov. 10
@Vanderbilt 25 28 23
25 Wisconsin 28 7 2 3 2 W 33 - 3
Indiana Nov. 03
@Ohio State 76 26 19
Updated: Sun Oct 28 15:54:04 EDT 2007
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College football and rankings are wrong all the time..

Can you honestly say that Kansas has played a tougher schedule than Missouri???


I am not a Missouri fan, but come on that is just ridiculous that their SOS is that strong with the amount of DII/III schools played.. Other then that the quality teams they have played are Colorado, Texas A&M and K-state.. And those teams are nothing to brag about this year.. I will give credit to Kansas, they somehow escaped this year with not having to play anybody really tough early on and only 4 road games..

Whereas Missouri played Illinois and other DI teams not counting Conference and has a lesser SOS???

[kcchiefsus]

Boston College is a fraud... them being so high on account of their great undefeated season is amusing although expected.

I look for an OSU vs. Oklahoma/Oregon/LSU/WVU title game. I think OSU/LSU is the best matchup outta those five, but any with the possible exception of WVU, will make it close with a good shot to win.

And so is Kansas.

[kcchiefsus]

But Colorado can.

And Missouri beat Illinois who beat Wisconsin who I believe was #5 at the time. Big freaking deal.

[Frazod]

Here is another one from CBS sportsline. But no, the all mighty Frazod knows more than all.

I guarantee my analysis will make much more sense than theirs.

Non-conference schedule - four COMPLETE AND TOTAL CUPCAKES, ALL AT HOME. AGAIN, ALL AT HOME. Combined record of cupcakes: 11-23. Do you deny this?

Number of ranked opponents: ONE

Highest ranked opponent: No. 24.

Combined record of conference opponents: 19-16

Combined record of all opponents: 30-39

Yeah, you guys are real giant killers, aren't you? Didn't even have the balls to play ONE SINGLE CUPCAKE on the road, either. Wow. I'm just stunned by your great SOS. :whackit:

[Valiant]

Oh brother, still on the schedule stuff ?

How about the last 4 games both teams have played ?

KU played , KSU 5-3,BU 3-6,CU 5-4,and aTm 6-3 for a 19-16 record.

MU played NU 4-5,OU 7-1,TT 6-3 and ISU 1-8 for a 18-19 record.

Does this make KU better or MU weaker ? NO, it's the way the schedules fall.....

This schedule crap is what you make of it to suit yourselves. So KU scheduled 4 cream puffs to jump start their season.....

MU schedule 3 of 4 cream puffs to start their season..... Does this make KU a weaker team ? NO, it's only what you make of it.....

Talking crap about schedules is only for your own perspective ..... So what, KU didn't have to play OU, Texas or TT this year, it wasn't our turn to.

MU better worry about CU and KSU before wanting to play KU ......

It's the MU fans that just can't wait till they play KU, as for KU, we take em 1 game at a time.......

Rock Chalk :KU:



Weak.. Why don't you just count the entire conference schedule???

Missouri plays teams right now 34-27 total to Kansas 30-32 total..

Or DI played schedule?? That would hurt even more..

This is what people are talking about.. Kansas has played great for who they have played but they have not played anybody and do not deserve that high of a SOS...

[KcMizzou]

Fraz may be an MU homer... but he's right.

KU's schedule isn't close to Mizzou's.

That's just fact.

[kcchiefsus]

Only 1 team in front of them in the BCS lost (VPI).

They moved up 4 spots in the AP poll (all 4 teams in front of them lost - South Florida, Florida, USC and VPI) and 2 spots in the Coaches' poll (USC and VPI).

They have their destiny in their own hands now. They have 3 winnable games before they play Missouri (Noobraska and Iowa State at home, Oklahomer State on the road wedged in the middle). They really shouldn't lose any of them, but 2-1 wouldn't shock me either. In any case, they *should* be 10-1 or 11-0 going into the game at Arrowhead.

Mizzou has Colorado and Kansas State on the road, and A&M at home. All winnable games, as well.

11/24 should be for all the marbles.

I guarantee a Mizzou win. Kansas is a fraud.

[ROYC75]

All computers see is the records of the opponets....

KU opponets combined records is 30-39

MU's opponets are 33 - 38

As for me, who cares...... You MUrons can harp all day about it.

You should worry about CU and KSU 1st before KU.

[Skip Towne]

Weak.. Why don't you just count the entire conference schedule???

Missouri plays teams right now 34-27 total to Kansas 30-32 total..

Or DI played schedule?? That would hurt even more..

This is what people are talking about.. Kansas has played great for who they have played but they have not played anybody and do not deserve that high of a SOS...
In another thread it said KU and MU had almost identical SOS.

[Silock]

yeah because Toledo, Fla Intl, Cent Mich, and SE Louisiana is one hell of a non conference schedule. And I thought MU's was a cakewalk for the most part. Not to mention when all of this is said and done KU also doesnt have to play TX or OU.

Let's see... Arizona State with a much lower SoS than KU, yet they're 4 pts higher. Sure, that makes sense. WV has a loss and a lower SoS.

As for not playing TX or OU -- that's just the way the schedule falls. Tough shit.

[Frazod]

Oh brother, still on the schedule stuff ?

How about the last 4 games both teams have played ?

KU played , KSU 5-3,BU 3-6,CU 5-4,and aTm 6-3 for a 19-16 record.

MU played NU 4-5,OU 7-1,TT 6-3 and ISU 1-8 for a 18-19 record.

Does this make KU better or MU weaker ? NO, it's the way the schedules fall.....

This schedule crap is what you make of it to suit yourselves. So KU scheduled 4 cream puffs to jump start their season.....

MU schedule 3 of 4 cream puffs to start their season..... Does this make KU a weaker team ? NO, it's only what you make of it.....

Talking crap about schedules is only for your own perspective ..... So what, KU didn't have to play OU, Texas or TT this year, it wasn't our turn to.

MU better worry about CU and KSU before wanting to play KU ......

It's the MU fans that just can't wait till they play KU, as for KU, we take em 1 game at a time.......

Rock Chalk :KU:

5+1+3+8 = 17, Mr. Rock Chalk. :shake:

[KcMizzou]

In another thread it said KU and MU had almost identical SOS.I think that was this thread...

Hence this latest MU/KU firestorm.

This rivalry's never seen better days. :)

[ROYC75]

Weak.. Why don't you just count the entire conference schedule???

Missouri plays teams right now 34-27 total to Kansas 30-32 total..

Or DI played schedule?? That would hurt even more..

This is what people are talking about.. Kansas has played great for who they have played but they have not played anybody and do not deserve that high of a SOS...


I hear ya, I know KU has taken an easy road to where they are. Crap, they never left the state of Kansas until the CU game.

Again, the schedule is what you make of it. Last year, Boise State didn't deserve to be in a BCS game by this same logic, weaker team, playing in a weaker confrence. But we all know how that turned out.........

Most MU fans do not want to give KU any credit, even if KU deserves it.

Alot of hype for the Border War........ makes it a fun time.

[Silock]

Yeah, you guys are real giant killers, aren't you? Didn't even have the balls to play ONE SINGLE CUPCAKE on the road, either. Wow. I'm just stunned by your great SOS. :whackit:

The fallacy in your argument is that the quality of the team doesn't depend on who they play.

[ROYC75]

5+1+3+8 = 17, Mr. Rock Chalk. :shake:

Sorry bout that.....

That make the records closer yet, does it really prove anything ?


NO !

[Tactical Funky]

Conference road wins have to count for something, right? Average teams or not, KU has three wins on the road in the Big XII.

Still, we need to take things one game at a time - which it appears Mangino is doing a great job of in keeping our team focused and grounded.

[KcMizzou]

Conference road wins have to count for something, right? Average teams or not, KU has three wins on the road in the Big XII.

Still, we need to take things one game at a time - which it appears Mangino is doing a great job of in keeping our team focused and grounded.Excellent point.

That's very impressive.

(no sarcasm)

[Valiant]

I hear ya, I know KU has taken an easy road to where they are. Crap, they never left the state of Kansas until the CU game.

Again, the schedule is what you make of it. Last year, Boise State didn't deserve to be in a BCS game by this same logic, weaker team, playing in a weaker confrence. But we all know how that turned out.........

Most MU fans do not want to give KU any credit, even if KU deserves it.

Alot of hype for the Border War........ makes it a fun time.


No they deserve credit for going undefeated so far, it is a hard thing to do especially in the B12 North.. My only point of all this is people/polls are saying that their SOS is equal to or better than Missouri which is just outright false.. Has nothing to do with taking anything away from Kansas on their record.. I hope they and Missouri win out till they play each other..

[Frazod]

The fallacy in your argument is that the quality of the team doesn't depend on who they play.

How can you guys even write shit like this? Do you really think opening the season against Illinois at a neutral site is the same as opening the season against Central f#cking Michigan at home? Christ, I could go on and one, week by week.

I'm not saying Kansas isn't a good team - obviously they are. But your non-conference schedule WAS A COMPLETE F#CKING JOKE. It would have only been a JOKE if you'd had the sack to play even one of them away from Lawrence. Playing all four AT HOME makes the joke COMPLETE. Is there not ONE OF YOU who will admit that?

And since then, you've played one ranked team while we've played three. But that doesn't matter either, does it?

Jesus. This is like trying to teach my cat to play checkers.

[Frazod]

Excellent point.

That's very impressive.

(no sarcasm)

Agreed. At least one of them can make a valid point.

And correctly add single digit numbers. :D

[Tactical Funky]

How can you guys even write shit like this? Do you really think opening the season against Illinois at a neutral site is the same as opening the season against Central f#cking Michigan at home? Christ, I could go on and one, week by week.

I'm not saying Kansas isn't a good team - obviously they are. But your non-conference schedule WAS A COMPLETE F#CKING JOKE. It would have only been a JOKE if you'd had the sack to play even one of them away from Lawrence. Playing all four AT HOME makes the joke COMPLETE. Is there not ONE OF YOU who will admit that?

And since then, you've played one ranked team while we've played three. But that doesn't matter either, does it?

Jesus. This is like trying to teach my cat to play checkers.
I'll admit that our non-con was a joke, but Mangino's following the correct formula to bringing a team from the depths of suckitude to a highly-competitive level (after all, he learned under Snyder at K-State).

MU played a tougher non-con, obviously, but KU has managed some quality road wins in conference. You guys lost to a very, very good OU team and had a chance to win, so I'm not going to disparage you there.

All in all, I think the KU-MU matchup is going to be the game of the year in the Big XII by far and, regardless of who wins, both teams have made it an exciting season and renewed interest in one of the most storied rivalries in college athletics.

[Frazod]

I'll admit that our non-con was a joke, but Mangino's following the correct formula to bringing a team from the depths of suckitude to a highly-competitive level (after all, he learned under Snyder at K-State).

MU played a tougher non-con, obviously, but KU has managed some quality road wins in conference. You guys lost to a very, very good OU team and had a chance to win, so I'm not going to disparage you there.

All in all, I think the KU-MU matchup is going to be the game of the year in the Big XII by far and, regardless of who wins, both teams have made it an exciting season and renewed interest in one of the most storied rivalries in college athletics.

Excellent post. :thumb:

[Silock]

How can you guys even write shit like this? Do you really think opening the season against Illinois at a neutral site is the same as opening the season against Central f#cking Michigan at home? Christ, I could go on and one, week by week.

I'm not saying Kansas isn't a good team - obviously they are. But your non-conference schedule WAS A COMPLETE F#CKING JOKE. It would have only been a JOKE if you'd had the sack to play even one of them away from Lawrence. Playing all four AT HOME makes the joke COMPLETE. Is there not ONE OF YOU who will admit that?

And since then, you've played one ranked team while we've played three. But that doesn't matter either, does it?

Jesus. This is like trying to teach my cat to play checkers.

Apparently, you completely and utterly failed to comprehend what I said. If the Patriots never had to play a game outside of the AFC East, would it make them a worse team? No. Likewise, if KU played the top 12 teams in the country and lost every single game, that wouldn't make KU better simply because they played against tougher competition.

Strength of schedule does not measure the quality of a team. If KU beats MU, are you still going to be crying about the weak non-conference schedule? If MU beats KU, does it mean less to you because of the weak non-conference schedule?

BTW, tell Michigan all about weak non-conference schedules. Their App St. loss was at home. Anything can happen. I'm just happy that KU got the wins, and got them convincingly.

[Tactical Funky]

Excellent point.

That's very impressive.

(no sarcasm)
Thanks, man - I always say I hate Mizzou fans, but I've got nothing but respect for you, Frazod, and the rest of the cool MU folks on this board.

I guess it's because we're all Chiefs fans, too. :p

[KcMizzou]

I'll admit that our non-con was a joke, but Mangino's following the correct formula to bringing a team from the depths of suckitude to a highly-competitive level (after all, he learned under Snyder at K-State).

MU played a tougher non-con, obviously, but KU has managed some quality road wins in conference. You guys lost to a very, very good OU team and had a chance to win, so I'm not going to disparage you there.

All in all, I think the KU-MU matchup is going to be the game of the year in the Big XII by far and, regardless of who wins, both teams have made it an exciting season and renewed interest in one of the most storied rivalries in college athletics.:clap:

You sir, are a very respectable beaker.

[KcMizzou]

I guess it's because we're all Chiefs fans, too. :pHeh, that does help.

I still HATE Laz during basketball season though. :D

[Tactical Funky]

Excellent post. :thumb:
Thanks. :)

I'm excited that the AD at KU actually seems to care about more than one sport now and, as a long-suffering KU football fan, this season has far surpassed my expectations.

Regardless of what happens from here on out, I'm proud of what our players have accomplished, plus this team is likeable in that what they lack in talent they make up for in will.

I hope both our teams run the table until the matchup at Arrowhead.

[Frazod]

Apparently, you completely and utterly failed to comprehend what I said. If the Patriots never had to play a game outside of the AFC East, would it make them a worse team? No. Likewise, if KU played the top 12 teams in the country and lost every single game, that wouldn't make KU better simply because they played against tougher competition.

Strength of schedule does not measure the quality of a team. If KU beats MU, are you still going to be crying about the weak non-conference schedule? If MU beats KU, does it mean less to you because of the weak non-conference schedule?

BTW, tell Michigan all about weak non-conference schedules. Their App St. loss was at home. Anything can happen. I'm just happy that KU got the wins, and got them convincingly.

The point is if you'd played any of the top 12 teams you WOULD NOT be undefeated right now. Or have you drank the koolaid to the point you think you would be? You did what you're supposed to do to a cupcake at home - beat the piss out of them. BFD. Michigan choking has no bearing on that.

[Tactical Funky]

:clap:

You sir, are a very respectable beaker.
I was raised an athlete of many sports and my parents, who both participated in college athletics in their time, instilled a good sense of sportsmanship in my mind that I've thankfully never lost sight of.

Sports should be about playing the game as it should be played; if you lose, you show respect to those who beat you. If you win, you show respect to those you beat.

Seems reasonable enough to me. :)

[KcMizzou]

I was raised an athlete of many sports and my parents, who both participated in college athletics in their time, instilled a good sense of sportsmanship in my mind that I've thankfully never lost sight of.

Sports should be about playing the game as it should be played; if you lose, you show respect to those who beat you. If you win, you show respect to those you beat.

Seems reasonable enough to me. :)Refreshing.

[KChiefs1]

KU is undefeated but they haven't played OU in Norman either!

Come on MU's schedule is much harder than what KU's had to face....I do give credit to KU for winning 3 road games in the Big 12 this year.

MU needs to prove they can go on the road to CU & KSU so we should see how good MU really is this year.

[Tactical Funky]

Heh, that does help.

I still HATE Laz during basketball season though. :D
Haha...

I love KU basketball, but I know some of our fans can get a little crazy. Hell, I do it too from time to time, but it's easy to get caught up in the furvor and I'm just grateful that we have a good program.

I still laugh at the "National Championship or Bust" mentality that a lot of KU fans show because it's easier said than done. However, I hope we can make an NC run this year as I think we've got the talent and depth for it.

Then again, anything goes, which is the beauty (and frustration) of college sports.

[ROYC75]

Meh, I hate no one here, even Murons, we just disagree on a few things,but thru it all we are all Friends.

MU has had a good year, it will be a great year by years end. They proved their weight in the OU game, in Norman. I wish them luck until they play KU, that's all.

But MU still has to play CU and KSU on the road, both teams should be playing better than when KU played them.

KU must get by Neb. and OSU. Neb. has taken it hard this year, they have talented players, anything can happen, but I like KU at home. OSU on the road should be a win, but it is a road game and anything can happen.......

1 game at a time.....

[KcMizzou]

1 game at a time....I think we, as beakers and tiggers alike, are all having a hard time with that.

But really, who could blame us?

We're generating our own personal hype.

[Tactical Funky]

I think we, as beakers and tiggers alike, are all having a hard time with that.

But really, who could blame us?

We're generating our own personal hype.
A sage point.

I think our respective fanbases are just excited at the potential implications of the Arrowhead game.

[ROYC75]

I think we, as beakers and tiggers alike, are all having a hard time with that.

But really, who could blame us?

We're generating our own personal hype.

This game has raised the whole Border War to another level, one we haven't seen for sometime. This game is a little under a month away and look att his hype and intrest between fans.

It really started about a month ago for that matter.

Now to have it played in Arrowhead, that could have the B12 North title on the line ? Who could ask for more ?

For all the talk leading up to this game, one side is going to have a serious let down when the game is over.

[KcMizzou]

This game has raised the whole Border War to another level, one we haven't seen for sometime. This game is a little under a month away and look att his hype and intrest between fans.

It really started about a month ago for that matter.

Now to have it played in Arrowhead, that could have the B12 North title on the line ? Who could ask for more ?

For all the talk leading up to this game, one side is going to have a serious let down when the game is over.Yeah, it's gonna be brutal.

But man... it's so much fun. :toast: :mizzou:

[Skip Towne]

KU is undefeated but they haven't played OU in Norman either!

Come on MU's schedule is much harder than what KU's had to face....I do give credit to KU for winning 3 road games in the Big 12 this year.

MU needs to prove they can go on the road to CU & KSU so we should see how good MU really is this year.
There is a listing in another thread that shows KU with the 62nd toughest schedule and MU with the 63rd. Welcome back to reality.

[carlos3652]

didnt mean to stir the pot, just posted what I found, and thought it was interesting... and SOS is calculated by the specifics teams W-L, the opp W-L (not counting the W or L of the game played between the teams, the W-L of their opponents)...

So if KU scheduled 4 cupcake teams, and the other teams that played them, also have a good record, then that helps KU's sos...

Just trying to give you some good ol info...

[beer bacon]

No they deserve credit for going undefeated so far, it is a hard thing to do especially in the B12 North.. My only point of all this is people/polls are saying that their SOS is equal to or better than Missouri which is just outright false.. Has nothing to do with taking anything away from Kansas on their record.. I hope they and Missouri win out till they play each other..

After this weekend KU's SOS caught up with Mizzou, because MU played Iowa State, and KU doesn't play them until the end of the season.