BREAKING NEWS

[Husky4506]

Bulls get Kobe Bryant. more info to come

[pr_capone]

HUGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I swear I will jump through your computer and throttle you if this is not true.

[Bronko1977]

I am sick of the superstar egomaniacs. I've had enough of ARod already, now this.

[Saulbadguy]

I think they traded Hinrich away.

[JBucc]

Sweet. I really don't give a shit about either team, but I like huge trades.

[HolmeZz]

Sad that the thread starter's not gonna live to see his 100th post.

[KCChiefsMan]

link?? did you hear about this before ESPN did or something?

[Eleazar]

Big Daddy won't like this

[Husky4506]

friend from chicago told me.

[Hootie]

rotoworld not reporting if we gave up Deng and Tyrus I am going to be PISSED

[Rooster]

Great... Now I have to hate the Bulls.

[88TG88]

Three way trade supposedly
LA Sac & CHI
LA gets artest hinrich
sac gets duhon and some other dude
Chi gets Kobe and Farmar

sounds like BS to me

[Pitt Gorilla]

They need to trade Wallace. That was a terrible signing. Other than him, I like the team the Bulls currently have.

[HolmeZz]

Yeah, the Bulls get Kobe for Hinrich. ROFL

[Hootie]

What?????

The Bulls traded Hinrich??? Who the hell is going to play point? Gordon? Gordon and Kobe on the same team?

I don't buy it...doesn't make ANY sense.

NUTHOOKS

[Hootie]

No way the Bulls are trading Hinrich...Gordon and Kobe on the same team makes no sense...if Kobe comes, Gordon is going...

Also, Wallace was a 'bad' signing, but it was only a 4 year deal, and the 4th year will be a great 'expiring contract' year...plus it was heavily front-loaded.

[Hootie]

"A deal can't get done because they won't include [Luol] Deng," Johnson said Tuesday on TNT. "And without Deng, a deal can't get done."

No way the Bulls trade Hinrich...

The deal has to be Deng, Gordon, Noah, filler + a pick otherwise it won't work...

If they trade Deng and Thomas I will be SEVERELY pissed...Kobe and Skiles aren't going to work, anyways.

[the Talking Can]

can anyone source this?

[beach tribe]

You should prolly wait on facts, before you put yourself out there. You´re about to lose all your rep.

[Hootie]

can anyone source this?
I can tell you as of right now it is far, far, far from true.

[Demonpenz]

man this is huge news. the second coming of jordan back in chitown.

DA BULLS!

[Coach]

Come on Husky, just tell us what's the deal is for.

[kstater]

I'm gonna have to call nuthooks.

[beach tribe]

Come on Husky, just tell us what's the deal is for.
The Deal is false info for a shit storm of neg rep.

[Hootie]

man this is huge news. the second coming of jordan back in chitown.

DA BULLS!
I think Kobe will be a Bull very soon, but they aren't giving up Hinrich, and they aren't keeping Gordon. Makes no sense. This is a definite 'nuthooks' worthy thread.

[Braincase]

Let's hope this is the first of many.

[Bronko1977]

This thread is bullshit. This trade is bullshit. I will give $100 to every person who posts on this thread if this is true.

[Thig Lyfe]

Lame. They wouldn't give up Hinrich if they knew what they were doing.

[beach tribe]

This thread is bullshit. This trade is bullshit. I will give $100 to every person who posts on this thread if this is true.
Broncos D line is bullshit.

[pr_capone]

LMFAO

ESPN just made mention of it in the into to Sports Center.

Not on the tube yet but tune in.

[Hootie]

The Bulls are definite frontrunners for Kobe, but they aren't giving up Hinrich, and Gordon will definitely be a part of the package.

I have no problem with Deng, Gordon, Noah, filler + a 1st going to the Lakers...but if Tyrus AND Deng go I'm going to be pissed...Kobe isn't even a team player for Christ's sake...you really think him and Skiles mesh? Kobe = Skiles gone within a year.

[Demonpenz]

KOBIE FOR THE WINNNN!!

YESSSS

I STAND ALONE>>>>>

[JBucc]

LIAR!!!!!

[Hootie]

I'm tuning into 670 The Score...if anything TRULY breaks, I'll let everyone know.

[penguinz]

This thread is bullshit. This trade is bullshit. I will give $100 to every person who posts on this thread if this is true.I want mine as four 20's, one 10, one 5, three ones, four quarters, five dimes, eight nickels and ten pennies.

[Dartgod]

This thread is bullshit. This trade is bullshit. I will give $100 to every person who posts on this thread if this is true.
I hate the NBA, but put me down for a C note just in case.

[beach tribe]

KOBIE FOR THE WINNNN!!

YESSSS

I STAND ALONE>>>>>
COLBY RULES!!!

[Mr. Arrowhead]

im calling BS on this one, until i offiically see a link

[pr_capone]

ESPN just said.... "Kobe and the deal that wasnt"

Kobe is a Laker

[Hootie]

I'm listening to 670...if this had any truth to it whatsoever they would be talking about this rather than Brian Urlacher's back.

[Hootie]

HUSKY YOU ****ING PIECE OF SHIT YOU JUST WASTED MY TIME YOU STUPID HALFCAN-ESQUE TREE HUMPER!

[Eleazar]

This thread is bullshit. This trade is bullshit. I will give $100 to every person who posts on this thread if this is true.

I'll get my ticket to the sweepstakes then.

[tk13]

They've been talking about this on the Bears board too. ESPN 1000 supposedly said it didn't happen... I guess. But that rumor is out there.... I think another talk show somewhere must've reported it.

[Demonpenz]

HOLEY CRAP can you imagine how much brayand will score in the bulls arena The dimentions are perfect for scoring

GET DOWN WTIH THE SICKNESS!

[ChiefsCountry]

Yeah, the Bulls get Kobe for Hinrich. ROFL

Hinrich & Artest is what it would have been basically. Thats a little more fair.

[DFB]

http://www.dailyherald.com/story/?id=68092

Trade rumors involving Los Angeles Lakers superstar Kobe Bryant coming to the Bulls just won't go away. In fact, they are getting hotter and heavier by the minute.

The latest, as reported by WSCR 670-AM, has Bryant coming to the Bulls as part of a three-way deal involving the Sacramento Kings.

Bulls guard Kirk Hinrich and Kings forward Ron Artest, a former Bulls, could wind up in Los Angeles.

The rumor was also being discussed on WMVP 1000-AM.

A Bulls source denied any deal was imminent.


----

Sounds like nothing official, just rumors. Which is NOT what the TC posted. Smells like nuthookery time.

[Hootie]

They've been talking about this on the Bears board too. ESPN 1000 supposedly said it didn't happen... I guess. But that rumor is out there.... I think another talk show somewhere must've reported it.
Dude these people just had the Bulls sending Hinrich and Duhon for Kobe...that makes about as much sense as Priest Holmes actually playing for the Chiefs this year.

[DFB]

This shit would be all over ESPN or ESPNEWS, which it's not. Nothing but a rumor.

[Mr. Arrowhead]

Three way trade supposedly
LA Sac & CHI
LA gets artest hinrich
sac gets duhon and some other dude
Chi gets Kobe and Farmar

sounds like BS to me
if this deal were to be true, sac would be getting raped in this deal

[HolmeZz]

Hinrich & Artest is what it would have been basically. Thats a little more fair.

The Bulls would be getting Kobe for Hinrich and Duhon in that deal. That's never happening.

[DFB]

Dude these people just had the Bulls sending Hinrich and Duhon for Kobe...that makes about as much sense as Priest Holmes actually playing for the Chiefs this year.

[Insert lame "Hootie-Priest Holmes 20 carries bet" comment here]

[Hootie]

I, as an avid Bulls fan, can not possibly see the Bulls trading Hinrich and keeping Gordon UNLESS they have another deal where Gordon is sent out for a PG...because Farmar isn't the answer (that's for sure) and Kobe + Gordon isn't going to work...that's a nightmare.

I have no problem with Deng, Gordon, Noah, draft pick for Kobe...Deng + Thomas = no way. Hinrich leaving makes no sense as well...

The only deal I'm ok with that is fair for both sides is the one I mentioned.

[Hydrae]

I hate the NBA, but put me down for a C note just in case.


I don't hate the NBA, just don't really care either way. But put me down for a Bennie as well! :)

[Hootie]

if this deal were to be true, sac would be getting raped in this deal
ROFL

Don't you mean LA would be getting raped in this deal?

Artest is the worst player out of the big 3...he's a cancer and quite frankly he isn't the MVP candidate he was a few years ago...and his shooting % continues to fall.

[CoMoChief]

I think they traded Hinrich away.
WTF...NO!!!!!!!!!!!

He's my favorite player on my favorite NBA team.

[Hootie]

WTF...NO!!!!!!!!!!!

He's my favorite player on my favorite NBA team.
I'd be SHOCKED if Paxson traded Hinrich in a Kobe deal...not only does it not make any sense, but Hinrich + Nocioni + Thomas + Wallce is a perfect starting lineup compliment to Kobe...that way Kobe can take all of the shots and none of those guys are going to bitch.

What the hell is Skiles going to do with Kobe & Gordon is the same backcourt? That will be a nightmare.

[Hootie]

By the way, the Score is saying ABSOLUTELY nothing about the Bulls or Kobe Bryant. Consider this a 'rumor' - a very bad one at that.

[ChiefsCountry]

Here is what the reported deal would have been:

Bulls get Kobe
Lakers get Artest & Hinrich along with Adrian Griffin & Viktor Khryapa from the Bulls
Kings get Chris Duhon & Tyrus Thomas

[Skip Towne]

I'm tuning into 670 The Score...if anything TRULY breaks, I'll let everyone know.
Don't let me know. I don't give a shit.

[Hootie]

Here is what the reported deal would have been:

Bulls get Kobe
Lakers get Artest & Hinrich along with Adrian Griffin & Viktor Khryapa from the Bulls
Kings get Chris Duhon & Tyrus Thomas
This makes a little more sense...

I don't like it, though...

Tyrus is going to be an absolute stud in the NBA.

Plus, I hate Duhon and can't imagine him being a starting PG in the NBA. He's tremendously overrated.

[DFB]

BREAKING NEWS ON ESPN:

3-way deal falls through.

[Hootie]

maybe they could trade Gordon to Toronto for Jose Calderon?

[pr_capone]

ESPN just blasted it.

NEG REP

[Eleazar]

What do you know, Pootie knows everything about basketball too. Is there anything he can't do, planeteers?

[Hootie]

670 says the deal is now dead.

[Hootie]

Fantastic.

I don't even want to see Kobe on the Bulls. The Bulls have the leverage, no one else does...

I guess they make a point when Jordan and the Bulls never needed a PG...Kobe Bryant doesn't need a PG...Kobe has never played in a PG based offense.

BUT STILL - I don't like Kobe, I'll be receptive to him being a Bull but I like the team we have now.

I love Tyrus, but what were the Bulls thinking when they traded Aldridge for Thomas last year? Aldridge would be the perfect fit for the Bulls this year...that guy is absolute stud and he has a very polished offensive game.

[Hootie]

What do you know, Pootie knows everything about basketball too. Is there anything he can't do, planeteers?
I'm sorry that my being SOOOO well informed bothers you so and others so badly!

[DFB]

Tyrus is an SEC product. :) Better upside.

I'll never forget when I was down in Baton Rouge and saw him block 9 shots en route to ripping my beloved Volunteers. :deevee:

[Anyong Bluth]

ESPN said that it looked like the deal isn't going to go through but that it looks like its pretty much a certainty that Kobe will be a bull

[Hootie]

ESPN said that it looked like the deal isn't going to go through but that it looks like its pretty much a certainty that Kobe will be a bull
Not surprised. The Bulls have the most logical pieces.

[Demonpenz]

I think henrich is an average player but he is white and so I like him

[Anyong Bluth]

Hinrich would be a perfect compliment to Kobe

[Psyko Tek]

skiles and kobie would be loads of fun to watch

take 15 minutes for Kolb to be pouting at the end of the bench cause he got his feewings hurt

[Hootie]

Eh, I guess I changed my mind on Hinrich while thinking harder about it...the amount of time Kobe handles the ball makes him a lot like Jordan, and the Bulls never had a PG that was responsible for handling the ball like Hinrich does...because Pippen or Jordan brought the ball up the court...just like Kobe does.

Plus Hinrich makes around 10 million per so the Bulls wouldn't have to trade half of their team to hit the 25% of Kobe's salary...

I'd love for it to be Hinrich, Noah, scrub, scrub I don't want to see Tyrus go =(

We'd have to unload Gordon somewhere else for something though...

[KCChiefsMan]

still nothing to confirm this? bastard's gonna get neg repped I just know it

[Mr. Laz]

if this trade happens then i won't like any NBA team.

[ChiefsCountry]

still nothing to confirm this? bastard's gonna get neg repped I just know it

http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/48894/20071031/three_way_kobe_trade_involving_kings_falls_through/

[L.A. Chieffan]

Ron Artest and Ben Wallace??

LAME. This all better be bullshit. Bulls would be lucky to get Kobe

[Thig Lyfe]

http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/48894/20071031/three_way_kobe_trade_involving_kings_falls_through/

That trade makes more sense. That way they would keep Hinrich and not sell off half the team.

[KCChiefsMan]

Jesus Christ I'm watching ESPN and they're talking about Tim Duncan
"Well I really think this guy is good, but he could be a lot better if he was more charismatic"

[ChiefsCountry]

That trade makes more sense. That way they would keep Hinrich and not sell off half the team.

I still think somehow they keep Wallace.

Something like this:

Bulls: Kobe
Lakers: Artest, Gordon, PJ Brown (for the salary basically)
Kings: Thomas, Duhon

[Hootie]

So are the Bulls going to sign and trade PJ Brown or what? I do not believe he is under contract...

[DJ's left nut]

That trade makes more sense. That way they would keep Hinrich and not sell off half the team.

No !@#%$% that deal is dead.

From a Laker perspective it makes less than no sense.

Artest is awful, his game has regressed for the last 4 seasons and he could be had for much MUCH less than Kobe.

The Lakers would view Wallace as a negative. They have Mihm, Brown and Bynum all at the C position. They like Bynum enough that they've refused to deal him for a piece that would appease Bryant. They also threw the MLE at Mihm this offseason and picked up Brown's 2 year extension. Needless to say, they're a fan of the centers they have. Wallace would only block Bynum and he has a HUGE (see also: terrible) contract, possibly the worst in the league.

So in essence the Lakers would be giving up Kobe Bryant for less than Ron Artest.

So yeah, that deal is dead. In fact, I'd bet any body part I have that this deal was never, in fact, alive. Stupid rumor.

[Chiefs Pantalones]

The trade fell through according to ESPN.

It's still on the table, but the teams all agreed to not do it...at least not yet.

[DJ's left nut]

I still think somehow they keep Wallace.

Something like this:

Bulls: Kobe
Lakers: Artest, Gordon, PJ Brown (for the salary basically)
Kings: Thomas, Duhon

Also won't happen.

I'm telling you, Buss will not deal Bryant for scraps and Phil Jackson is not an Artest guy.

If the Lakers don't walk away with Deng + either Thomas or Hinrich, they won't deal (unless it turns out to be Deng, Noah, a first and Gordon, but even then they might not as Gordon is not a Jackson guard, Noah has no offensive upside so they still couldn't score and the first is likely worth nothing coming from the East). They'll ride Bryant out and let him walk in '09, freeing up his cap # for someone like Arenas (a Cali product that would love to go to LA).

Bulls fans, you're trading for the most dynamic offensive force in the NBA (who plays all-star defense to boot), you probably oughta be prepared to, I dunno, give up something in return.

This isn't the NFL or MLB, you do not trade 3 dimes for a quarter. One superstar is worth more than his aggregate value.

[tyton75]

This thread is bullshit. This trade is bullshit. I will give $100 to every person who posts on this thread if this is true.


Just posting for the money if this should come true :)

[Smed1065]

IN.

It might be hootie though.

:cuss:

[DeezNutz]

Just posting for the money if this should come true :)

I like money.

[the Talking Can]

Bulls get Kobe Bryant. more info to come

dumbass

[Chiefs Pantalones]

IMO, if the Bulls make this trade they became the Lakers of 06 and the Lakers all the sudden become the Bulls of 06.

The Bulls don't need Kobe. I wish we could be a fly on the walls in Chicago inside Paxson's office and get his reasoning as to why he thinks he needs Kobe and is more than willing to gut his team (one that built) for him.

Also, Kobe will bitch and moan like he does in LA when he realizes that he is right back where he was with the Lakers---losing.

[Tribal Warfare]

This thread is bullshit. This trade is bullshit. I will give $100 to every person who posts on this thread if this is true.


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[Buck]

This thread is bullshit. This trade is bullshit. I will give $100 to every person who posts on this thread if this is true.

I dont think its true, but I'm not passing up this opportunity.

[Hootie]

the Bulls are playing pretty FUGLY tonight...man, 33 first half fouls combined...almost unwatchable =(

[sparkky]

This thread is bullshit. This trade is bullshit. I will give $100 to every person who posts on this thread if this is true.

I'm in for a piece of the $100.00 - 0 action.

[kcxiv]

Jesus Christ I'm watching ESPN and they're talking about Tim Duncan
"Well I really think this guy is good, but he could be a lot better if he was more charismatic"
ITs because they cant sell him as the bad guy. They just want some drama to happen with Duncan, but it wont happen. He's to mellow.

They would love nothing more then to give him the Arod/Kobe/BoSox/Yankee's treatment, but they cant, because there's nothing else then he's a great player. IMO the best PF to ever play.

[RustShack]

I'm all for getting $100

[Frazod]

Well, I'm watching the BULLS GAME on a Chicago sports channel, and they haven't said a damn thing about it.

[Anyong Bluth]

Fraz,

The Bulls announcers are idiots, you won't hear it on their telecast.

DJ's Left Nut,

Get real. Kobe's contract and prior BS is killing his trade value. Laker's are going to have to chew on his contract and deal with it. You're just being a homer idiot to think they're going to get even value- let alone any real long term value.

Chicago holds all the cards. They have a buffet of young promising talent, and with Kobe having final say in any trade, Lakers are F()CKED!

Lakers aren't getting Deng, Kobe has already expressed he'll kill any trade that includes him. Bulls won't trade Hinrich, and have said he's off the table. Other than that, you're not getting more than 3 players from the Bulls directly, or probably 2 upper tier players in any 3 way trade.

Face it, Kobe is getting moved, and the Lakers aren't getting even value. That's the price you pay when you give a player an absurd contract. Stephen A. Smith went over the details and it's absurdly ridiculous.

[Spott]

Nets 76-75 early in the 4th quarter. Kobe Bryant is still in LA, where he belongs.

[Frazod]

Hope Duhan wasn't part of the trade he just got hurt. Looks like it could be bad - he's clearly in a ton of pain.

I watch Bulls game so infrequently that it still feels weird not to see Jordan out there. :D

[Pitt Gorilla]

Duhan isn't going anywhere now.

[Spott]

I'd be willing to part with Duhon.

[Frazod]

Duhan's back. Injury appears to be minor. May go back in the game.

Why I am I still watching this?

[Iowanian]

I wonder why he wasn't traded to the Denver Nuggets?

[Spott]

Looks like OT.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Ben Wallace is untradeable for the next two years. The only thing he's likely to be is bought out.

Deng and Gordon is a good deal for the Bulls, IMO. They can still have a really solid 8 man rotation with a clear alpha dog in the clutch. I don't know if they could beat the Spurs even with Kobe, since they don't have a true inside game, but they'd be death on the perimeter.

[Hootie]

the officials gave New Jersey a nice 40 free throw night!

Jesus. That game was one sided officiating but hey, that's how homecourt works in the NBA.

[Easy 6]

If Kobe came to play, thats a HELLUVA team if the chemistry works.

On paper atleast, it'll be a Bulls-Celtics conference final.

He's always wanted to be MJ.

[shyguyms]

not true yet just rumors

[Hootie]

not true yet just rumors
HELLO FIRST PAGE

[DJ's left nut]

Fraz,

The Bulls announcers are idiots, you won't hear it on their telecast.

DJ's Left Nut,

Get real. Kobe's contract and prior BS is killing his trade value. Laker's are going to have to chew on his contract and deal with it. You're just being a homer idiot to think they're going to get even value- let alone any real long term value.

Chicago holds all the cards. They have a buffet of young promising talent, and with Kobe having final say in any trade, Lakers are F()CKED!

Lakers aren't getting Deng, Kobe has already expressed he'll kill any trade that includes him. Bulls won't trade Hinrich, and have said he's off the table. Other than that, you're not getting more than 3 players from the Bulls directly, or probably 2 upper tier players in any 3 way trade.

Face it, Kobe is getting moved, and the Lakers aren't getting even value. That's the price you pay when you give a player an absurd contract. Stephen A. Smith went over the details and it's absurdly ridiculous.

Whatever big fella.

Kobe's not going anywhere if the Lakers don't get a halfway decent haul. The Bulls don't have any leverage, nor does Kobe. Kobe's still under contract with LA and he'll never end up where he wants to be, at the price he wants to be there at, unless he cooperates with LA.

There are no contending teams with cap space in the next 2 years. Without cap space, teams can only offer the mid-level exception. In other words, the only way Kobe goes to a contending team is if the Lakers trade him there or he goes there for the MLE. He is not going to sign for the MLE, so he has to get the Lakers to agree to a sign and trade. If he doesn't waive his no trade, they won't. If he doesn't play ball now, they won't.

If he doesn't exercise his opt out, his no-trade is automatically waived. At that time the Lakers can do whatever they want with him. That's also why Kobe's contract doesn't hurt him. He'll be in the same boat if he chooses to opt out of it. If he does, his team won't have Bird rights so he's unlikely to get his money with another halfway decent club.

Kobe does not have leverage. The Bulls do not have leverage. Anyone that thinks anybody but LA is in control of this thing does not understand the NBA salary structure. That is also why the Lakers are far better off letting him walk than taking some dumbass deal like Artest and Wallace, 2 guys that would clog up their cap and not permit them from grabbing a Max free agent like Gilbert Arenas.

As for being a homer, I'm from Columbia, MO...not quite. Maybe the guy that thinks the Bulls are going to get the best player in the NBA for the two main principals in the darkest moment in recent NBA history (who happens to be from Chicago) is the homer here. I mean c'mon, do you really think LA ever considered Wallace and Artest on the same team? Those two guys nearly brought the NBA to its knees in the Palace 4 years ago. As stupid as Mitch Kupcheck is, he's not that stupid.

The idiot in this thread? I'd say that falls firmly within the camp of the guy that thinks the Bulls are holding the cards in this deal.

[DFB]

Just to update, Paxson says talks are done.

http://msn.foxsports.com/nba/story/7398386

[DJ's left nut]

What?!?!?

You mean they didn't just take whatever the Bulls offered and thank them for it?

Color me stunned.

[L.A. Chieffan]

What?!?!?

You mean they didn't just take whatever the Bulls offered and thank them for it?

Color me stunned.
While I agree the Lakers are not completely screwed and can get somewhat fair value for Kobe given the right circumstances, NOTHING would surprise me in the Kupchak era.