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KCJohnny
11-12-2007, 10:10 PM
Which school of thought do you subscribe to?

1. Solari is an Al Saunders disciple who can't wait to unleash the beast but Herm is telling him to run the R2P2 offense and avoid "arena league" games;

2. Solari is as close to being an offensive mastermind as Gunther Cunningham is to being a writer for Hallmark Greeting Cards.

What do you need to see in these final 7 games to be convinced that Mike Solari deserves a 3rd campaign as OC? I mean, isn't having a bottom-feeder offense usually the death knell for an O-coord?

Ultra Peanut
11-12-2007, 10:14 PM
MORE LIKE MIKE SLARI

Easy 6
11-12-2007, 10:28 PM
He's pretty much going to have to descend from the Heavens riding a SPARKLING & MIGHTY STORMCLOUD of FURY into Arrowhead games.

He'd better hope Croyle makes him look good IMO.

KCJohnny
11-12-2007, 10:31 PM
He's pretty much going to have to descend from the Heavens riding a SPARKLING & MIGHTY STORMCLOUD of FURY into Arrowhead games.

He'd better hope Croyle makes him look good IMO.
IIRC, that's exactly what happened in NY when Herm went to Chad.

"After making only three appearances during his first two seasons, Chad emerged as the Jets' starting quarterback after filling in for a very productive, yet scapegoated Vinny Testaverde (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vinny_Testaverde) during the fifth game of the 2002 season. Pennington helped reverse the Jets' fortunes by leading the 1-4 team to an eventual 9-7 record and an AFC East division championship. Despite playing less than a full season, Pennington managed to throw for 3,120 yards with 22 touchdowns and 6 interceptions. His 104.2 quarterback rating (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quarterback_rating) during the 2002 season is a team record. Pennington led the Jets to a first round 41-0 blowout of the Indianapolis Colts (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indianapolis_Colts) in that season's playoffs. While this was his first season as a starter, it remains Pennington's best season of his career."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chad_Pennington

Easy 6
11-12-2007, 10:42 PM
IIRC, that's exactly what happened in NY when Herm went to Chad.

"After making only three appearances during his first two seasons, Chad emerged as the Jets' starting quarterback after filling in for a very productive, yet scapegoated Vinny Testaverde (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vinny_Testaverde) during the fifth game of the 2002 season. Pennington helped reverse the Jets' fortunes by leading the 1-4 team to an eventual 9-7 record and an AFC East division championship. Despite playing less than a full season, Pennington managed to throw for 3,120 yards with 22 touchdowns and 6 interceptions. His 104.2 quarterback rating (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quarterback_rating) during the 2002 season is a team record. Pennington led the Jets to a first round 41-0 blowout of the Indianapolis Colts (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indianapolis_Colts) in that season's playoffs. While this was his first season as a starter, it remains Pennington's best season of his career."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chad_Pennington

We can only hope Brodie makes a splash like that, he has great raw skills...but i wont hold my breath, not with the O in shambles like it is.

At this rate, i just want Brodie to escape 07 alive & with his confidence intact.

KCJohnny
11-12-2007, 11:42 PM
We can only hope Brodie makes a splash like that, he has great raw skills...but i wont hold my breath, not with the O in shambles like it is.

At this rate, i just want Brodie to escape 07 alive & with his confidence intact.

I think the reference to the 2002 Jets is instructive. Herm feels a comfort level here with Croyle based on his experience with Chad. My hunch is that Brodie delivers in a similar as Chad, but with less results (no playoff berth). The '02 Jets crushed the Colts in the playoffs 41-0. Let's learn from the past lessons!

Extra Point
11-12-2007, 11:57 PM
Brodie Croyle isn't "Chad Lite." We better play him the rest of the season, and see if he's worth holding.

Any word on how Tyler Thigpen is progressing?

KCJohnny
11-13-2007, 12:08 AM
Brodie Croyle isn't "Chad Lite." We better play him the rest of the season, and see if he's worth holding.

Any word on how Tyler Thigpen is progressing?

Chiefs Planet alert!!! Extra Point is trying to create a QB controversy between Croyle and Thigpen!!!!!

Seriously, from this we can learn that Herm is willing to make changes to younger QBs with more upseide and that these QBs can succeed.

SBK
11-13-2007, 01:13 AM
I was hoping someone was going to tell me that Solari's 3rd year as a Coordinator was going to be for another team.

KCJohnny
11-13-2007, 09:17 PM
Wow, haven't seen anything like this since Jimmy Raye was here...

TEX
11-13-2007, 10:06 PM
Wow, haven't seen anything like this since Jimmy Raye was here...

And they're ALL WRONG. Mike tried to be aggressive in preseason before the '06 season. Herm called him out after the game and talked about," how it used to be around here." He has NEVER been the same since. :shake:
Man, how quickly people forget. For those who think Herm is innocent here ask yourself how many OC's he's had during his coaching career. :hmmm:

BigChiefFan
11-13-2007, 10:10 PM
I think Solari should be judged on the next few games, after we see some airing it out before calling him a bust. The play-calling hasn't been Jimmy Raye bad, but the execution has stunk.