Dicator Carl comes out from hiding!

[FloridaMan88]

To be expected of course since the Dicator, regardless of how miserable of a season his Chiefs are having can never pass up the chance to get his fat face in front of a camera... especially during a big event like tonight.

I would have LOVED to hear Musberger or Herbie ask the Dictator a hardball question, something like "Gee it is good the area colleges are giving the locals a big game to get excited about since the Chiefs haven't won a playoff game in nearly 14 years and are currently mired in medicority"

The Dicator would probably have instructed his henchmen (Bob Gretz, the Wargarbage Illustrated zombies, etc) to promptly escort Musberger/Herbie out of the stadium in response.

[teedubya]

Dick Ater?

[Hammock Parties]

The Dicator would probably have instructed his henchmen (Bob Gretz, the Wargarbage Illustrated zombies, etc) to promptly escort Musberger/Herbie out of the stadium in response.

Dude, this Warpaint stuff has got to stop. We criticize the Chiefs, including Carl and Herm, all the time.

[FloridaMan88]

Dick Ater?

Dictator, with emphasis on the DICK since it is Carl we are talking about.

[dirk digler]

I knew that Carl would have to put his fat face on TV so I wasn't the least bit surprised

[Skip Towne]

Dude, this Warpaint stuff has got to stop. We criticize the Chiefs, including Carl and Herm, all the time.
Would you kindly quit pimping that miserable rag here? We all know what it and Athan are. You aren't fooling anybody. Just showing your ignorance.

[DaneMcCloud]

To be expected of course since the Dicator, regardless of how miserable of a season his Chiefs are having can never pass up the chance to get his fat face in front of a camera... especially during a big event like tonight.

I would have LOVED to hear Musberger or Herbie ask the Dictator a hardball question, something like "Gee it is good the area colleges are giving the locals a big game to get excited about since the Chiefs haven't won a playoff game in nearly 14 years and are currently mired in medicority"

The Dicator would probably have instructed his henchmen (Bob Gretz, the Wargarbage Illustrated zombies, etc) to promptly escort Musberger/Herbie out of the stadium in response.

Musberger and Peterson have been friends for a long, long time.

Musberger often cites Peterson in his college football broadcasts and has been doing that for a long, long time.

[Hammock Parties]

Musberger and Peterson have been friends for a long, long time.

Musberger often cites Peterson in his college football broadcasts and has been doing that for a long, long time.

Another member of the media secured firmly in Carl's hip pocket.

[Marty Mac Ver 2.0]

I loved how you could hear Peterson's voice during game play and then when the cameras went to the box, Peterson deftly moved his eyes towards the camera.

You could tell he practiced that Hard Knocks.

[KCinNY]

The arrogant S.O.B. just can't stand to miss a chance to be on TV.

Even though, nobody in the country cares to hear what he has to say.

[Titty Meat]

Dude, this Warpaint stuff has got to stop. We criticize the Chiefs, including Carl and Herm, all the time.

I've left things in the toilet that are more interesting than Warpaint. Nick Athan looks like the guy I gave change to last night in Westport.

[Deberg_1990]

WTF??? So Peterson decided to get a little face time in tonight, in turn taking some of the spotlight away from these kids who played their guts out tonight??

Typical....

God, i want this douchbag out of KC.

[Reerun_KC]

I puked when he showed up on the screen...

What a complete toolbag...

[Reerun_KC]

The Dicator would probably have instructed his henchmen (Bob Gretz, the Wargarbage Illustrated zombies, etc) to promptly escort Musberger/Herbie out of the stadium in response.


That was outstanding!

[007]

To be expected of course since the Dicator, regardless of how miserable of a season his Chiefs are having can never pass up the chance to get his fat face in front of a camera... especially during a big event like tonight.

I would have LOVED to hear Musberger or Herbie ask the Dictator a hardball question, something like "Gee it is good the area colleges are giving the locals a big game to get excited about since the Chiefs haven't won a playoff game in nearly 14 years and are currently mired in medicority"

The Dicator would probably have instructed his henchmen (Bob Gretz, the Wargarbage Illustrated zombies, etc) to promptly escort Musberger/Herbie out of the stadium in response.

I heard quite a few people groan when his ugly mug showed up on screen. He can't resist face time.

[Demonpenz]

i threw my jack and coke down and was like "great ruined my christmas"

[Luke]

As much as I dislike Peterson, at least he mentioned Lamar Hunt as being the one who wanted the MU/KU game played at Arrowhead. One of the blurbs at the bottom of the screne said that the attendance tonight was the 2nd largest in Arrowhead history, topped only by Chiefs-raiders game from 1972!

It seemed to me Peterson was not quite with it, maybe he was exspecting hard questions.

I wonder if Solari was at the game, and saw that even in college games you don't have to ...........aw, nevermind.

[ChiefsCountry]

Didnt anybody listen to what he actually said, good grief all did was saying this was Lamar Hunt's dream to get this game. Over and over again about Lamar Hunt, nothing about him. Also talked about Arrowhead and Hunt's legacy with it. And then they talked about NFL prospects on both teams. I hate the guy as much as anybody but it wasnt like he was out pimping himself tonight.

[Deberg_1990]

Didnt anybody listen to what he actually said, good grief all did was saying this was Lamar Hunt's dream to get this game. Over and over again about Lamar Hunt, nothing about him. Also talked about Arrowhead and Hunt's legacy with it. And then they talked about NFL prospects on both teams. I hate the guy as much as anybody but it wasnt like he was out pimping himself tonight.


Why didnt Clark come out and do this instead of Peterson??

[kcfan82]

LOL @ Peterson making the make-shift Lamar Hunt trophy for this game, since he never could win Lamar the one for the AFC title.

[ChiefsCountry]

Why didnt Clark come out and do this instead of Peterson??

His old man never did any tv stuff either. I just dont think the Hunt family wants attention IMO.

[StcChief]

Carl just counting money.....

[The Bad Guy]

Dictator, with emphasis on the DICK since it is Carl we are talking about.

You always seem to emphasize dick, because that's what you are, and that's all you think about.

Now go shit in a closet like your hero Najeh Davenport.

[stevieray]

Why didnt Clark come out and do this instead of Peterson??

...because his first name isn't Jerry, and his last name isn't Jones.

[Mecca]

Jerry Jones rules, in a crazy old man kinda way.....and well he has passion to win and not just fill seats.

[Deberg_1990]

Jerry Jones rules, in a crazy old man kinda way.....and well he has passion to win and not just fill seats.

yep

[tk13]

Yeah right, Jerry Jones just wants to control everything. He wants to win, but only if it feeds his ego.

[Mecca]

That ego maniac has seen his franchise win more championships in just his time as owner than the Chiefs have in history.....

I'd trade for that...I like Jerry at least I know he cares about winning.

[tk13]

No offense, but that's garbage. Maybe you should go be a Cowboys fan since they want to "win". The only time they've been relevant under Jones is when he checked his ego at the door long enough for Jimmy Johnson and Bill Parcells to do their thing. And they were out the door before long. That's why they were basically irrelevant for almost a decade. Most of the time he's been more concerned about hiring a coach that won't clash with his ego.

They'll finally break it this year most likely, but they haven't even won a playoff game since 96, not much shorter than the Chiefs playoff drought.

[DaneMcCloud]

No offense, but that's garbage. Maybe you should go be a Cowboys fan since they want to "win". The only time they've been relevant under Jones is when he checked his ego at the door long enough for Jimmy Johnson and Bill Parcells to do their thing. And they were out the door before long. That's why they were basically irrelevant for almost a decade. Most of the time he's been more concerned about hiring a coach that won't clash with his ego.

They'll finally break it this year most likely, but they haven't even won a playoff game since 96, not much shorter than the Chiefs playoff drought.

Parcells? Ha.

Ever heard of Barry Switzer?

How about Wade Phillips?

JJ has made mistakes, no doubt.

But his mistakes PALE in comparison to Lamar Hunt's mistakes (even during the same time period).

Let's hope CH doesn't carry on the tradition.

[tk13]

Yeah, that Dave Campo era was GREAT. :)

I wasn't really talking about Lamar, obviously he was a pretty loyal guy. Which is a good thing if you hire the right guy, I guess. I was talking about the idea that Jerry Jones wants to win just because he has a big ego and likes to be flashy.

I still think it's absurd that he ran Jimmy Johnson out of town. Maybe it wouldn't have turned out that way, but that was a GREAT team... maybe if Jimmy had stayed they truly could've been a 4-5 time champion and we'd be comparing the Pats to them. You do whatever you can to hang onto something like that... instead Jones pulled a Jerry Krause before Jerry Krause himself. You wouldn't see Robert Kraft run Bill Belichick out of town, he'd be called a lunatic.

Barry Switzer won with Jimmy's team. Just like Phillips is winning with what Parcells left him. I think those were the two times where Jones checked his ego at the door and truly let a great talent evaluator do his thing.

[Mecca]

Why is it when you make a point like that you get a response like "well be a fan of that team"

Let's see in Jones time they've had 2 shitty coaches, 1 of which won a bowl...in that same time with the Chiefs..we've had some crappy coaches and not won anything..

Just saying people rip on Jones but our franchise has made more mistakes than he had despite his reputation.

We see Dave Campo with Gunther Cunningham.

[tk13]

Gunther Cunningham was never as bad as Dave Campo. No way. Campo never even touched Gunther's worst season as a head coach.

I challenge you to find a single coach the Chiefs let go on with a 5-11 winning percentage or worse for three consecutive years.

[stevieray]

Jerry Jones will never hold a candle to Lamar Hunt and his legacy in the NFL.

JJ doesn't just want to fill seats in a 100k capacity stadium...

The only reason JJ even can own the Cowboys is because Lamar rejected the NFL's offer to have an NFL team in Dallas.

Besides, the point is Clark doesn't need/want/have to take the spotlight, when he's hired Carl to do it for him.

[Mecca]

That's fine but I know one thing.......Carl Peterson would have been gone years ago with Jones or with hell just about any other owner.

[DaneMcCloud]

Barry Switzer won with Jimmy's team. Just like Phillips is winning with what Parcells left him. I think those were the two times where Jones checked his ego at the door and truly let a great talent evaluator do his thing.

Actually, there were quite a few changes made. One was the addition of Deion Sanders.

The 1995 Cowboys were a very different from the 1993 Cowboys. Regardless, it still takes a great coach and a great team to win the Super Bowl, no matter who owns the team or who runs the team.

Additionally, the Kraft family has been very unhappy with Belichick's "act" for quite a while and there were rumors that Belichick would be fired at the end of the season.

Time will only tell.

[Demonpenz]

I don't dislike jerry jones. He just wants everything his way and will do anything to get it. There is something distinctly american about that, and that appeals to me. Lamar did so much for kansas city that I have trouble grasping it, and did it in a humble way, which is cool too. For my own selfish reasons I wish we had jerry jones type of person because you know win or loose it would be entertaining, and that is what I really want out of sports is to get my mind off of every day life.

[Deberg_1990]

I don't dislike jerry jones. He just wants everything his way and will do anything to get it. There is something distinctly american about that, and that appeals to me. Lamar did so much for kansas city that I have trouble grasping it, and did it in a humble way, which is cool too. For my own selfish reasons I wish we had jerry jones type of person because you know win or loose it would be entertaining, and that is what I really want out of sports is to get my mind off of every day life.

I just want an owner who isnt satisfied with mediocrity and status quo.

Just because the stands are full every week, doesnt mean you are successful. (Well, i guess it all depends on how you define success??)

[philfree]

I don't dislike jerry jones. He just wants everything his way and will do anything to get it. There is something distinctly american about that, and that appeals to me. Lamar did so much for kansas city that I have trouble grasping it, and did it in a humble way, which is cool too. For my own selfish reasons I wish we had jerry jones type of person because you know win or loose it would be entertaining, and that is what I really want out of sports is to get my mind off of every day life.

I'd like to sit back and read this board if the Chiefs went 1-15 like Jerry's Cowboys did....

PhilFree:arrow:

[Mecca]

Is it going to lead to what they became......I'm all for it, **** I'm all for going in a new direction as long as there is a plan.

Going 7-9 every year is not a plan, it's a band aid to give this illusion of competing.

[Demonpenz]

I'd like to sit back and read this board if the Chiefs went 1-15 like Jerry's Cowboys did....

PhilFree:arrow:



If we went 1-15 there are smart fans here that wouldn't care as long as we were playing young guys with a young qb like dallas was. Right now the fans who know anything just want anything but average. We want to either **** it up big or win big, just no more happy horse shit that we have chugged natty lites too for 20 years.

[philfree]

Is it going to lead to what they became......I'm all for it, **** I'm all for going in a new direction as long as there is a plan.

Going 7-9 every year is not a plan, it's a band aid to give this illusion of competing.

That's not even close to the truth.

PhilFree:arrow:

[Mecca]

That's not even close to the truth.

PhilFree:arrow:

Then what is it.......you don't win Superbowls or really even compete trying to sneak into the playoffs, especially in this conference. The Chiefs are unwilling to take the risks it takes to be great because those same risks may entail not even being average...

So they band aid it to be a middle of the pack mediocre team that is never horrible but never good enough at the same time...

How exactly do you see it? If it isn't close to the truth.

[Deberg_1990]

Then what is it.......you don't win Superbowls or really even compete trying to sneak into the playoffs, especially in this conference. The Chiefs are unwilling to take the risks it takes to be great because those same risks may entail not even being average...

So they band aid it to be a middle of the pack mediocre team that is never horrible but never good enough at the same time...




Your so right, its sad..

Thanks for ruining my Christmas. :)

[philfree]

Then what is it.......you don't win Superbowls or really even compete trying to sneak into the playoffs, especially in this conference. The Chiefs are unwilling to take the risks it takes to be great because those same risks may entail not even being average...

So they band aid it to be a middle of the pack mediocre team that is never horrible but never good enough at the same time...

How exactly do you see it? If it isn't close to the truth.

The truth is the chiefs have put good teams on the field and but it's ended short or a lombardi and you cry like a baby. See you at the game if you have the heart to show up and cheer.

PhilFree:arrow:

[Mecca]

Good is subjective, the last time they put a team on the field that was good enough to make it to a bowl was the mid 90's. So we're looking at over a decade ago.

[philfree]

Good is subjective, the last time they put a team on the field that was good enough to make it to a bowl was the mid 90's. So we're looking at over a decade ago.

I think that statement pretty proves my point. I'm done because I'm gonna get up early and drive 3 hours to the head and yell till i can't yell no more. Nighty night and don't forget your silky blanket.

PhilFree:arrow:

[Deberg_1990]

I think that statement pretty proves my point.:


HUH?? WTF is this guy talking about??

[Demonpenz]

HUH?? WTF is this guy talking about??


i don't know. I am a blind stupid sucker for spending money on the chiefs. he reminds me of myself

[Mecca]

HUH?? WTF is this guy talking about??

It probably has something with me not being a real fan because I don't believe or some stupid shit like that.

[Mojo Rising]

...because his first name isn't Jerry, and his last name isn't Jones.

When Lamar was succesful he was like Jerry Jones.

In an interview Lamar was asked how long the league (AFL) could survive while losing $1 Mil a year. He replied 50 (referring to the $50 his Dad was worth at the time.)

Doesn't seem that humble to me.

Back then Lamar was hell bent on becoming a succesful owner in the NFL. He did it and then it seems like he had other interests like Soccer.

If King Carl is only interested in filling seats then why do the Hunts put up with that?

My guess is that Carl's bonus is tied to the profit margin and his goals are the same as the Hunts. Money first.

The season after we signed Priest and Green to extensions and our D was horrible we were told that we couldn't add and defensive help via free agency because their signing bonuses were prorated over 2 years.

Carl is just the face of the organization. The Hunts are just as responsible, or more so.

Just once I would like KC to be accused of trying to pay our players more to gain an advantage (like Bowlen.)

[stevieray]

Your so right, its sad..

Thanks for ruining my Christmas. :)

yup, and between the two of you, you can't spell you're or too.

[stevieray]

When Lamar was succesful he was like Jerry Jones.

In an interview Lamar was asked how long the league (AFL) could survive while losing $1 Mil a year. He replied 50 (referring to the $50 his Dad was worth at the time.)




uh, you better get your facts straight.

[Micjones]

Peterson's always chomping at the "TV face time" bit.
He makes me sick.

[Mojo Rising]

Was it his portion of his Dad's wealth? What is inaccurate?

Lamar was as brash as Jerry Jones is.

[Skip Towne]

I was a Cowboy fan........until Jerry Jones showed up.

[petegz28]

Dude, this Warpaint stuff has got to stop. We criticize the Chiefs, including Carl and Herm, all the time.


Maybe cause they deserve it? I will cut Herm a tiny bit of slack. But not Peterson of anyone else.

18 years and with the exception of 1 year we have 0 playoff wins.

[dirk digler]

Going 7-9 every year is not a plan, it's a band aid to give this illusion of competing.

Totally agree Mecca. We will do enough to get the fans interested but we will never take any risks.

The one thing I do disagree with you about though is that the 03 Chiefs should have went to the SB.

[milkman]

Totally agree Mecca. We will do enough to get the fans interested but we will never take any risks.

The one thing I do disagree with you about though is that the 03 Chiefs should have went to the SB.

Are you suggesting that '03 Chiefs team that had absolutely no defense should have gone to the SB?

[dirk digler]

Are you suggesting that '03 Chiefs team that had absolutely no defense should have gone to the SB?

Yep it wasn't the most complete team we ever had but no one could stop our Offense.

[milkman]

Yep it wasn't the most complete team we ever had but no one could stop our Offense.

Had they actually advanced beyond the Colts and faced a real D, they would have been stopped.

That team was not good enough to go to the SB.

There is no doubt in my mind that the Pats would have knocked us off.

[gblowfish]

Dick Tater?
Maybe that shoud be George Blowfish's evil twin....

[milkman]

Dick Tater?
Maybe that shoud be George Blowfish's evil twin....

LMAO

Yes, I think it should.

[Deberg_1990]

yup, and between the two of you, you can't spell you're or too.


So your satisfied with not winning a playoff game since Jan of 94??

Not going back to a Super Bowl in 37 years???

I dont understand why more people are not pissed off about this? Especially the die hard seaason ticket faithful.

[blueballs]

Was it his portion of his Dad's wealth? What is inaccurate?

Lamar was as brash as Jerry Jones is.

Lamar never said he had 50 million to blow on the AFL
Lamar's dad said -If he loses 1 million a year
he's got 50 years

[blueballs]

When Carl is gone in 2 years
where will all the blame be shifted to

[Messier]

Everyone seems to think that the Chiefs are somehow satisfied with mediocrity. That's dumb. Yeah, the Chiefs are mediocre this year, a rebuilding year, the kind of year that most teams in this position would be 1-9, or 2-8 or something. The coaches and players should win as many as they can, even while trying to rebuild the team.

I think there should be a new term for people who hate their own team. The people for whom every move is a bad one, every draft is gonna suck, and the craziest of all, sometime think it would be best to lose games to get a better draft pick, insane! People who, for some crazy reason love their team and root for them no matter what, stand up for the team and defend it, they are called homers. I think the opposite fan should be called a nomer.

If you are a nomer, this post will piss you off, and then you'll know if you are one.

[milkman]

Yeah, the Chiefs are mediocre this year

This year?

Nomer?

I think you should leave creative thinking to creative thinkers.

[Deberg_1990]

Everyone seems to think that the Chiefs are somehow satisfied with mediocrity. That's dumb. Yeah, the Chiefs are mediocre this year, a rebuilding year, the kind of year that most teams in this position would be 1-9, or 2-8 or something. The coaches and players should win as many as they can, even while trying to rebuild the team.

I think there should be a new term for people who hate their own team. The people for whom every move is a bad one, every draft is gonna suck, and the craziest of all, sometime think it would be best to lose games to get a better draft pick, insane! People who, for some crazy reason love their team and root for them no matter what, stand up for the team and defend it, they are called homers. I think the opposite fan should be called a nomer.

If you are a nomer, this post will piss you off, and then you'll know if you are one.

1. I dont hate my team

2. Is there anything wrong for demanding excellence out of my team? What a novel concept!!!

[blueballs]

The Chiefs were Lamar's baby and the AFC was his children
you don't sell out the family for 1 child
Clark probably has a different view

[dirk digler]

Had they actually advanced beyond the Colts and faced a real D, they would have been stopped.

That team was not good enough to go to the SB.

There is no doubt in my mind that the Pats would have knocked us off.

Possibly but playing the AFC Championship at home would have been a huge advantage. It seems getting to that game has been the nemesis of this organization of late.

[milkman]

Possibly but playing the AFC Championship at home would have been a huge advantage. It seems getting to that game has been the nemesis of this organization of late.

Sorry, I just don't think that Arrowhead would have made any difference.

The fact is, the Colts and the Pats were both better teams.

The Chiefs got as far as they should have gotten, and were lucky to have gotten that far without a defense, really.

[dirk digler]

Sorry, I just don't think that Arrowhead would have made any difference.

The fact is, the Colts and the Pats were both better teams.

The Chiefs got as far as they should have gotten, and were lucky to have gotten that far without a defense, really.

Unfortunately for us we will never find out. I would have loved to see that offense against the Pats at home.

[Messier]

This year?

Nomer?

I think you should leave creative thinking to creative thinkers.


Okay. I mean, everone's always saying, if milkman doesn't like it, it just won't fly.

[milkman]

Okay. I mean, everone's always saying, if milkman doesn't like it, it just won't fly.

Glad to see you have some sense, at least.

[Mecca]

I don't hate the Chiefs either, I hate how they think you should run a franchise though.

The Chiefs aren't 2-8 because they refuse to fully rebuild, most of the starters are still vets. If it's a key position they went with a vet as long as possible if they still aren't. Greg Wesley still gets significant time..

Croyle should have been out there since week 1, but no that's not the Chiefs. They won't ever fully rebuild it's to risky.

[The Bad Guy]

I'd like to sit back and read this board if the Chiefs went 1-15 like Jerry's Cowboys did....

PhilFree:arrow:

If 1-15 meant 3 titles in the 90s, there's not one person that wouldn't have that trade off.