Our coach is the topic of discussion on other boards too [Archive]

Nzoner

11-25-2007, 11:40 PM

From FFToday (http://www.fftodayforums.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=303519)

I think it is funny that he is employed. Didn't the Chiefs have to give up a draft pick or two to get him?

and they lose, LOL

that is grounds for the HUnt family to fire him tonight.

"You play to win the game.... You play to win the game."

Great words from a guy that doesn't win very often huh?

luv

11-25-2007, 11:45 PM

Sounds pretty much like here.

Mecca

11-25-2007, 11:45 PM

That's great, now other teams fans make fun of us, we are truly hitting bottom.

luv

11-25-2007, 11:47 PM

You know what the last week of the season will be like around here with Jets trolls?

smittysbar

11-25-2007, 11:48 PM

But we all knew it was going to go down like this when he came in. Sucks to be us right now, lol

Pablo

11-25-2007, 11:50 PM

That's great, now other teams fans make fun of us, we are truly hitting bottom.
It's a fantasy football forum. They're fans of the most productive players that week...Some douche was talking about how he started Fargas..

I could care less what other teams fans have to say..every team has went through dark periods with bad coaches, bad games, etc.

We have to take our lumps as well. I guess ours just last longer than most folks.

MadMax

11-25-2007, 11:55 PM

That's great, now other teams fans make fun of us, we are truly hitting bottom.

Sad thing is even after this TURD is gone, Carl will STILL be GM... :banghead: :banghead: oh yea and i'll be 50 :(

I just amde myself cry :( amde daminitt!!!

KCJohnny

11-25-2007, 11:59 PM

I like Herm but Al Saunders deserved to be the HC of this team. Even Gunther would have have had us closer.

Pablo

11-26-2007, 12:03 AM

Sad thing is even after this TURD is gone, Carl will STILL be GM... :banghead: :banghead: oh yea and i'll be 50 :(It would be nice if Carl and Solari left this year, and we brought in Norv Turner at OC, gave Herm one more season to bring in talent, and if he did well, maybe demote him and keep in the organization and hunt for a better HC candidate in the meantime.

Everyone loved Vermeil for some odd reason.

His first two seasons:
6-10
8-8

I'm not saying Herm is going to put a 13-3 offensive juggernaut out their next season, but I think 3 years is more than fair. 2 isn't.

ChiefsCountry

11-26-2007, 12:04 AM

I like Herm but Al Saunders deserved to be the HC of this team. Even Gunther would have have had us closer.

Saunders would be worst than Herm, look what he did back for San Diego in the 80's.

KCJohnny

11-26-2007, 12:06 AM

Mr. Flopnuts

11-26-2007, 12:09 AM

It would be nice if Carl and Solari left this year, and we brought in Norv Turner at OC, gave Herm one more season to bring in talent, and if he did well, maybe demote him and keep in the organization and hunt for a better HC candidate in the meantime.

Everyone loved Vermeil for some odd reason.

His first two seasons:
6-10
8-8

I'm not saying Herm is going to put a 13-3 offensive juggernaut out their next season, but I think 3 years is more than fair. 2 isn't.

Exactly. I'm not jumping off of his bandwagon until the end of next year, minimum. If management forces an accomplished OC on him next year, we'll see better results.

kcxiv

11-26-2007, 12:14 AM

It's a fantasy football forum. They're fans of the most productive players that week...Some douche was talking about how he started Fargas..

I could care less what other teams fans have to say..every team has went through dark periods with bad coaches, bad games, etc.

We have to take our lumps as well. I guess ours just last longer than most folks.
37 years is alot of bumps.

kcxiv

11-26-2007, 12:16 AM

Exactly. I'm not jumping off of his bandwagon until the end of next year, minimum. If management forces an accomplished OC on him next year, we'll see better results.
The problem is his management of games. They are horrible. He makes really bad choices during games. Some of his calls i am ok with and i understand, some are just flat out retarded.

Pablo

11-26-2007, 12:17 AM

Herm needs to deliver 12-4 next year or he is toast.I'd take 10-6 with a first round playoff win and a developing QB and RB behind a sufficient line.

I'm a dreamer, and I'd love a Chiefs team like '03, but with defense as well. That's never going to happen, so I'm giving Herm next season. If he totally effs it up next season, all season, you can't blame the players, the line, the playcallings, coordinators, or GM. It's his ass then.

There are too many things wrong with this organization right now to pin everything on Herm. It's the easiest thing to do, but not the correct thing to do. I hope Chiefs fans give Brodie a chance to develop and prove his worth, and don't just jump off his bandwagon in the middle of next season because he's making bad plays or throws a game away.

I'm sure 90% of the posters on this board gave Vermeil a fair shake, and weren't calling for his head after his 2nd season. I know Herm has a bad stigma attached to him, and he does some stupid sh*t, but one more year is definately in order. If nothing else, just to evaluate the market for HC's.

Are there really any HC's we could get in the off-season that you'd prefer to Herm?

Because I can't think of one. I can think of coaches I'd like to have. If I had my choice, Jon Gruden would coach this team, I love that guy, but we're not gonna get him, just like we're not gonna get Cowher outta retirement, Dallas' OC, and I don't want Norv Turner or Callahan anywhere near this franchise.

MadMax

11-26-2007, 12:19 AM

It would be nice if Carl and Solari left this year, and we brought in Norv Turner at OC, gave Herm one more season to bring in talent, and if he did well, maybe demote him and keep in the organization and hunt for a better HC candidate in the meantime.

Everyone loved Vermeil for some odd reason.

His first two seasons:
6-10
8-8

I'm not saying Herm is going to put a 13-3 offensive juggernaut out their next season, but I think 3 years is more than fair. 2 isn't.

Oh I agree 2 years isnt enough time to rebuild a team that has been soooooo mismanaged, but damn it's hard to watch this tool make the mistakes he does game on and game out... I should bite my tongue for 1 more year :) It's not the record it's the way we play...UGLY AS ****!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Pablo

11-26-2007, 12:23 AM

37 years is alot of bumps.Dolphins haven't won one in 30 years. Saints never have. Lions haven't. Vikings haven't done anything as long as we have, IIRC. We're not alone, and it sucks.

But we have a losing tradition in this franchise, and until CP is gone and done sucking the little bit of lifeblood that is left, we're gonna bleed out slowly. Herm isn't the best coach in the NFL, he's sufficient and he's easy to pick on because he's animated, goofy looking, and far from a game manager. When everyone in the stadium was screaming for him to go for it on 4th and 1 at the 23, he went. And failed.

He chose the wrong time to break out of his conservative stance, and the staff called the wrong play. And then 15 fans around me who were screaming go for it, called him a dumbass for not kicking the FG with Rayner. Who missed a 33 yarder earlier horribly, and is obviously a hit-or-miss type guy, mainly miss.

KCJohnny

11-26-2007, 12:26 AM

I'm sure 90% of the posters on this board gave Vermeil a fair shake, and weren't calling for his head after his 2nd season. I know Herm has a bad stigma attached to him, and he does some stupid sh*t, but one more year is definately in order. If nothing else, just to evaluate the market for HC's.

Are there really any HC's we could get in the off-season that you'd prefer to Herm?

I proclaimed Vermiel a failure in 2001. Clearly he was enamored with the Mike Martz led lightning-in-a-bottle GSoT. That would NEVER happen in KC. I was right. 1 playoff appearance in 5 long years.

Herm needs to advance to the AFC title game next year or go the way of the rest. There is sufficient talent on this team to make a strong playoff run in 2008 with the right decisions in the off season.

Pablo

11-26-2007, 12:30 AM

Oh I agree 2 years isnt enough time to rebuild a team that has been soooooo mismanaged, but damn it's hard to watch this tool make the mistakes he does game on and game out... I should bite my tongue for 1 more year :) It's not the record it's the way we play...UGLY AS ****!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Yeah, it's really ugly. But I think every week we're seeing Herm peel back one more layer of his conservative shell. He went for it one 4th twice, and it backfired once. But I was shocked and pleasantly surprised. I wanted him to kick the FG, but Rayner sucks and if you can't pick up one yard against the 31st rush defense, you don't deserve to win. I don't care if we run the same play 10 times in a row, you should get 3 yards minimum against the Raiders. I think he'll get more confidence in Brodie, and if we get a couple linemen in FA/Draft, then Herm might not be scared to play to win.

Who the hell wants to play all loosy-goosy then hand the ball to Brodie Croyle behind this line with 2 minutes left and say win the game. That's a recipe for failure. Our playcalling sucks and we could set ourselves up better, but we seriously aren't built for offensive dominance yet. Croyle has the arm, he just has to learn to play and manage the game, and make great throws. He needs to learn touch, and our damn WR's(Kennison) need to learn to catch his bullets in their chest and fall forward, not bobble the ball and fall backwards. And a running game wouldn't hurt either..but you need a line first.

Simplex3

11-26-2007, 12:41 AM

MadMax

11-26-2007, 12:44 AM

Yeah, it's really ugly. But I think every week we're seeing Herm peel back one more layer of his conservative shell. He went for it one 4th twice, and it backfired once. But I was shocked and pleasantly surprised. I wanted him to kick the FG, but Rayner sucks and if you can't pick up one yard against the 31st rush defense, you don't deserve to win. I don't care if we run the same play 10 times in a row, you should get 3 yards minimum against the Raiders. I think he'll get more confidence in Brodie, and if we get a couple linemen in FA/Draft, then Herm might not be scared to play to win.

Who the hell wants to play all loosy-goosy then hand the ball to Brodie Croyle behind this line with 2 minutes left and say win the game. That's a recipe for failure. Our playcalling sucks and we could set ourselves up better, but we seriously aren't built for offensive dominance yet. Croyle has the arm, he just has to learn to play and manage the game, and make great throws. He needs to learn touch, and our damn WR's(Kennison) need to learn to catch his bullets in their chest and fall forward, not bobble the ball and fall backwards. And a running game wouldn't hurt either..but you need a line first.

Very nice take Gonzo, and I have to agree... I don't blame THIS game on Herm, last game yes I do or play calling...Bah!!!! Actually I have the exact same take as you so i'll SFU!!! lol

Simplex3

11-26-2007, 12:44 AM

Who the hell wants to play all loosy-goosy then hand the ball to Brodie Croyle behind this line with 2 minutes left and say win the game. That's a recipe for failure.
Yeah, we might lose some of these games we're losing now.

Pablo

11-26-2007, 01:00 AM

greg63

11-26-2007, 01:38 AM

Herm's an idiot! I wouldn't trust him to coach a Pop Warner team.

greg63

11-26-2007, 01:44 AM

Yeah, it's really ugly. But I think every week we're seeing Herm peel back one more layer of his conservative shell. He went for it one 4th twice, and it backfired once...This is not an indication that he is in any way attempting to be liberal in his coaching style. That last time he went for it the play that was run was as conservative as they come, and exactly what the defense was expecting; which coincidentally was why it "backfired" IMO.

Taco John

11-26-2007, 01:48 AM

Once you guys hired Herm, I decided that I'd stop getting into so many smack battles with Chiefs fans. What's the point?

Don't take it out on Herm though. He was hired to be a yes man.

greg63

11-26-2007, 02:06 AM

Once you guys hired Herm, I decided that I'd stop getting into so many smack battles with Chiefs fans. What's the point?

Don't take it out on Herm though. He was hired to be a yes man.

The fans didn't hire him. I for one seriously want him gone.

blueballs

11-26-2007, 02:18 AM

look at the fins run of coaches
Pornstache - Satan - CaMoron

Nzoner

11-26-2007, 08:49 AM

Reerun_KC

11-26-2007, 08:59 AM

That's great, now other teams fans make fun of us, we are truly hitting bottom.
They have been making fun of us from day one.

but people were so bent on Herm as the savior! Remember?

He was going to "fix" the Defense and leave the "offense" alone? Herm has a playoff history... You know he was one kick away from an AFC Championship game... He is Mr Playoffs...

Herm is a shit coach, always has and always will be.. He best record is 10-6 for god sakes... a retarded monkey with half a brain and a offensive game plan can compete in the NFL for a 10-6 record.

We get what we deserve... Trading picks for a coach who was going to be fired anyway... Carl rode in and saved Herms face. You cheered Herm when he was hired? Then you should be cheering and praising Herm for yesterdays gameday performance...

This is what you wanted...

Reerun_KC

11-26-2007, 09:03 AM

The fans didn't hire him. I for one seriously want him gone.
I for one, never ever wanted him here in KC...

He makes me sick!

Nzoner

11-26-2007, 09:06 AM

It's a fantasy football forum. They're fans of the most productive players that week..

Don't know about your experiences but the guys I know who play fantasy football are some of the most passionate and knowledgeable fans around.

Reerun_KC

11-26-2007, 09:10 AM

Don't know about your experiences but the guys I know who play fantasy football are some of the most passionate and knowledgeable fans around.
But they dont appreciate what Herm Edwards is doing in KC /GonzoRox88

HonestChieffan

11-26-2007, 09:17 AM

Id welcome Jets Fans here...hell we can enjoy the shared misery. We have nothing left to be upset about. They make a lot more sense than the DonkChokedinChigago trolls.

Reerun_KC

11-26-2007, 09:26 AM

Id welcome Jets Fans here...hell we can enjoy the shared misery. We have nothing left to be upset about. They make a lot more sense than the DonkChokedinChigago trolls.
So you are saying people here wont bash them like before?

You know, many of the posters here would hammer a jets fan for trying to tell us the truth about Herm. Our posters would call them Jealous because we "took" their coach. People laughed at and mocked Jets fans on here..

Now we are sitting here eating "raw crow" wishing Jets fans would come back so we can share misery with them... Nice Very Nice.... Jets fans called this last year, some were to blind to see it... Now we are playing exactly the way they said we would be... Can you say Egg on face?

Look at the train wreck Herm left in NYJ.... It will take any real NFL coach 2-3 years to clean up this trash pit when Herm leaves here as well...

Demonpenz

11-26-2007, 09:37 AM

I could take the loosing if it was clear he was trying to "See what he has" for next year, but that dumb bastard is trying to win every game like it's his last, and he is still failing,

against the raiders

at home

arg

El Jefe

11-26-2007, 10:31 AM

You know what the last week of the season will be like around here with Jets trolls?

I have been thinking the about the same thing.

HonestChieffan

11-26-2007, 10:32 AM

what do we have to be so proud of, Nor do the Jets...and now we share a Herminization.

You dont honestly believe we can beat the jets do you?

We have seen our last win for this year

Skip Towne

11-26-2007, 10:38 AM

Herm needs to deliver 12-4 next year or he is toast.
Herm has never won more than 10 games. In 7 tries. I've seen enough.

FringeNC

11-26-2007, 10:49 AM

They have been making fun of us from day one.

but people were so bent on Herm as the savior! Remember?

He was going to "fix" the Defense and leave the "offense" alone? Herm has a playoff history... You know he was one kick away from an AFC Championship game... He is Mr Playoffs...

Herm is a shit coach, always has and always will be.. He best record is 10-6 for god sakes... a retarded monkey with half a brain and a offensive game plan can compete in the NFL for a 10-6 record.

We get what we deserve... Trading picks for a coach who was going to be fired anyway... Carl rode in and saved Herms face. You cheered Herm when he was hired? Then you should be cheering and praising Herm for yesterdays gameday performance...

This is what you wanted...

Yep. Not a whole lot to add to that. One thing about his tenure in NY -- Paul Hackett had to have a lot more authority than Solari does here. Herm made Solari scrap most of the pre-snap motion we used, yet in NY, Hackett used as much pre-snap motion as Saunders did here.

cadmonkey

11-26-2007, 10:55 AM

Not to beat a dead horse, but I told you guys that Herm was terrible. He sucked with the Rats, I mean Jets and that wouldn't change.

Pablo

11-26-2007, 11:39 AM

But they dont appreciate what Herm Edwards is doing in KC /GonzoRox88That's clearly not my writing. I would have most certainly used an apostrophe in don't.

And people can whine all they like, he's not leaving this year and he'll be here next year. Herm isn't a great coach, he's a good motivator and evaluator of talent. But three years is fair. Almost any franchise in the NFL would understand that two years isn't fair.

The best QB we've had in this franchise in decades got knocked out in Herm's first game for sh*t's sake. Willie Roaf retired, Will Shields retired, LJ got worked to death because nobody trusted Horrid, and for good reason. I'm not in love with Herm, I'm just willing to give him an adequate amount of time to do something with the youth and talent on this roster. The youth is there..the talent is being built.

If we don't see a much more satisfactory Chiefs team out there next year, I'll be on the "Fire Herm" Bandwagon. I just think most people here that hate Herm have hated him since he was hired. "OMG...we should have hired Al Saunders, he would have been a better HC." Sure, then when Green got knocked out and our line fell apart, he could have been at the helm when this team imploded and everyone would be calling for his head.

StcChief

11-26-2007, 12:17 PM

1 more year.....Herm. better have a real good off season

sad to think our next real possible W this season is @Jets

Chiefs_5627

11-26-2007, 12:20 PM

That's clearly not my writing. I would have most certainly used an apostrophe in don't.

And people can whine all they like, he's not leaving this year and he'll be here next year. Herm isn't a great coach, he's a good motivator and evaluator of talent. But three years is fair. Almost any franchise in the NFL would understand that two years isn't fair.

The best QB we've had in this franchise in decades got knocked out in Herm's first game for sh*t's sake. Willie Roaf retired, Will Shields retired, LJ got worked to death because nobody trusted Horrid, and for good reason. I'm not in love with Herm, I'm just willing to give him an adequate amount of time to do something with the youth and talent on this roster. The youth is there..the talent is being built.

If we don't see a much more satisfactory Chiefs team out there next year, I'll be on the "Fire Herm" Bandwagon. I just think most people here that hate Herm have hated him since he was hired. "OMG...we should have hired Al Saunders, he would have been a better HC." Sure, then when Green got knocked out and our line fell apart, he could have been at the helm when this team imploded and everyone would be calling for his head.

Exactly where i stand.

King_Chief_Fan

11-26-2007, 12:20 PM

And people can whine all they like, he's not leaving this year and he'll be here next year. Herm isn't a great coach, he's a good motivator and evaluator of talent. But three years is fair. Almost any franchise in the NFL would understand that two years isn't fair.

sure it is....ask Gun. He got fired after two years. His record was .500. But he never lost to the donks at home. He beat the SB Rams.

Losing to donks and raiders at home is warrant enough for Herm's head in my mind.

King_Chief_Fan

11-26-2007, 12:22 PM

Herm has never won more than 10 games. In 7 tries. I've seen enough.

he is 3 games under .500 for those years......says consistently poor coach to me.

Calcountry

11-26-2007, 01:30 PM

But we all knew it was going to go down like this when he came in. Sucks to be us right now, lolWho hired this guy again?

Who retained that person when he inherited full control of the team?

Calcountry

11-26-2007, 01:35 PM

I'd take 10-6 with a first round playoff win and a developing QB and RB behind a sufficient line.

I'm a dreamer, and I'd love a Chiefs team like '03, but with defense as well. That's never going to happen, so I'm giving Herm next season. If he totally effs it up next season, all season, you can't blame the players, the line, the playcallings, coordinators, or GM. It's his ass then.

There are too many things wrong with this organization right now to pin everything on Herm. It's the easiest thing to do, but not the correct thing to do. I hope Chiefs fans give Brodie a chance to develop and prove his worth, and don't just jump off his bandwagon in the middle of next season because he's making bad plays or throws a game away.

I'm sure 90% of the posters on this board gave Vermeil a fair shake, and weren't calling for his head after his 2nd season. I know Herm has a bad stigma attached to him, and he does some stupid sh*t, but one more year is definately in order. If nothing else, just to evaluate the market for HC's.

Are there really any HC's we could get in the off-season that you'd prefer to Herm?

Because I can't think of one. I can think of coaches I'd like to have. If I had my choice, Jon Gruden would coach this team, I love that guy, but we're not gonna get him, just like we're not gonna get Cowher outta retirement, Dallas' OC, and I don't want Norv Turner or Callahan anywhere near this franchise.The problem with Herm, is that he is blaming them now. He blamed Vermiels offense for causing a shitty D. He blamed scoring a lot of points for a shitty D. He blamed his players lack of talent for not throwing the ball more. He blamed the gameplans on lack of talent.

Great coaching there coach.

Calcountry

11-26-2007, 01:41 PM

Dolphins haven't won one in 30 years. Saints never have. Lions haven't. Vikings haven't done anything as long as we have, IIRC. We're not alone, and it sucks.

But we have a losing tradition in this franchise, and until CP is gone and done sucking the little bit of lifeblood that is left, we're gonna bleed out slowly. Herm isn't the best coach in the NFL, he's sufficient and he's easy to pick on because he's animated, goofy looking, and far from a game manager. When everyone in the stadium was screaming for him to go for it on 4th and 1 at the 23, he went. And failed.

He chose the wrong time to break out of his conservative stance, and the staff called the wrong play. And then 15 fans around me who were screaming go for it, called him a dumbass for not kicking the FG with Rayner. Who missed a 33 yarder earlier horribly, and is obviously a hit-or-miss type guy, mainly miss.Fine, go for it, but how about double tight end jumbo formation with Jason Dunn swinging out of it to catch a 3 yard pass? WTF? how hard is it to pick up a yard when they all know your dumb ass coach will just hand the ball off the left tackle?

Pablo

11-26-2007, 02:00 PM

Fine, go for it, but how about double tight end jumbo formation with Jason Dunn swinging out of it to catch a 3 yard pass? WTF? how hard is it to pick up a yard when they all know your dumb ass coach will just hand the ball off the left tackle?I don't disagree. It was what we and everyone else in the stadium expected, run to the "strong" side of the line. But good god, it's the Raiders..they're 31st in the league against the run. One effing yard..seriously..3 feet, against the second worst rushing defense in the league and our line got no push and blocked nobody. Smith made almost all those big plays by himself, but all we needed was two linemen to do their job for 3 feet and they couldn't.

There are a lot of plays we could have called, and this was the safe, predictable bet, but if we can't pick up three yards we don't deserve to win. That's it. A team that has a RB going crazy all day should be able to pick up three feet when they need it.

KC Dan

11-26-2007, 02:06 PM

and this was the safe, predictable bet, .
That's what the faiders thought too. Play to WIN the game that's all I want. I would be 100% behind Herm if he had kicked the FG. I may have even been behind him if he had tried a TE pass on 4th and 1. But, doing the same thing over and over again if stupid.

siberian khatru

11-26-2007, 02:16 PM

Here's something that pisses me off.

Last week vs. Indy, Herm was criticized for sitting on the ball at the end of the 1st half. Sunday, he attempts a pass in that situation which results in a sack. I'm sure that's Herm's way of saying "See? See what happens when you try?"

But the thing is, they were two very different situations.

At Indy, we had the ball at the 23 with 1:18 to play and all 3 TOs in a tie game.

At KC, we had the ball at the 18 with :32 to play and only 1 TO, in a game we led 10-6.

I don't think you HAVE to go for it in Indy. I would, but I at least understand why you might not. But how in the world do you then go for it in KC in a much less favorable circumstance? Just because one's on the road and the other's at home? Bah.

smittysbar

11-26-2007, 02:27 PM

Who hired this guy again?

Who retained that person when he inherited full control of the team?

Yep, I agree. Clark is going to have to do something. I think as of right now they are losing there fan base little by little

Mr. Flopnuts

11-26-2007, 06:15 PM

Uh, Vermeil had won a Super Bowl. Sperm hasn't won jack s**t, ever. Having won a Super Bowl buys you some time when you take over a s**t team. Having won jack s**t buys you no time when you take over a good team.

HUGE difference.

We weren't a good team when Herm took over. 10-6 was amazing. We were getting old, and Vermeil knew it was time to hang them up before he embarrassed himself. The writing was on the wall. Herm inherited shit. I'll refrain from the chicken salad joke, it's played out.

Problem is, even if Herm gets smart, or is forced, to get a better OC, it's going to be tough for the team to learn a new system and produce big numbers right out of the gate. I think we'll win a playoff game next year, but I don't think we'll make a Super Bowl until 09.

Mr. Flopnuts

11-26-2007, 06:17 PM

Herm is a shit coach, always has and always will be.. He best record is 10-6 for god sakes... a retarded monkey with half a brain and a offensive game plan can compete in the NFL for a 10-6 record.

Then why doesn't every body do it? He did WELL in NY. That team didn't have a lot of talent, and he had them a breath away from the AFC Championship game. We'll be fiiiiiiiiiiine.

Mr. Flopnuts

11-26-2007, 06:19 PM

Don't know about your experiences but the guys I know who play fantasy football are some of the most passionate and knowledgeable fans around.

Knowledgable, definately. Passionate? Really? Not my experience.

Halfcan

11-26-2007, 06:19 PM

It would be nice if Carl and Solari left this year, and we brought in Norv Turner at OC, gave Herm one more season to bring in talent, and if he did well, maybe demote him and keep in the organization and hunt for a better HC candidate in the meantime.

Everyone loved Vermeil for some odd reason.

His first two seasons:
6-10
8-8

I'm not saying Herm is going to put a 13-3 offensive juggernaut out their next season, but I think 3 years is more than fair. 2 isn't.

Keep Herm another year- ARE YOU OUT OF YOUR MIND?????

He just does not understand the basic rules of the game. He choked away the game against the Colts by basically giving up at half time with 2 timeouts and a minute on the clock.

I was hoping he would be fired today.

Mr. Flopnuts

11-26-2007, 06:21 PM

DomerNKC

11-26-2007, 06:23 PM

It would be nice if Carl and Solari left this year, and we brought in Norv Turner at OC, gave Herm one more season to bring in talent, and if he did well, maybe demote him and keep in the organization and hunt for a better HC candidate in the meantime.

Everyone loved Vermeil for some odd reason.

His first two seasons:
6-10
8-8

I'm not saying Herm is going to put a 13-3 offensive juggernaut out their next season, but I think 3 years is more than fair. 2 isn't.6-10 and then 8-8 shows improvement. Do we really need to see 0-16 to see that this is going downhill fast? We run a High school level offense, a middle of the road defense, and a coach that seems to be content with spending his days contemplating his next great analogy. FIRE HIS ASS NOW!!!!!

Mr. Flopnuts

11-26-2007, 06:24 PM

sure it is....ask Gun. He got fired after two years. His record was .500. But he never lost to the donks at home. He beat the SB Rams.

Losing to donks and raiders at home is warrant enough for Herm's head in my mind.

You're right. It would be enough warrant to fire Herm. It would also set our franchise further back than most here think we are already. Do a search on NFL coaches and the franchises that are constantly changing coaches. See how the franchises do that have 3 different coaches over 7 years. See how they're doing 10 years later. If you don't have some patience when it comes to philosophy, you're spinnin your wheels. We'll be losers for life.

Rooster

11-26-2007, 06:25 PM

Don't know about your experiences but the guys I know who play fantasy football are some of the most passionate and knowledgeable fans around.

Oh come on Nzoner. There is a reason it is called fantasy football. The guys I know who take fantasy football so seriously don't know the difference between a chin strap and a jock strap.

pikesome

11-26-2007, 06:29 PM

Uh, Vermeil had won a Super Bowl. Sperm hasn't won jack s**t, ever. Having won a Super Bowl buys you some time when you take over a s**t team. Having won jack s**t buys you no time when you take over a good team.

HUGE difference.

What Herm got wasn't good anymore. I'd like more from Herm but I'm going to side with the "one more year" crowd