Whö wöüld yöü have Replace Carl Petersück at GM?

[Ari ümlaüt]

We all want a new GM. Whö wöüld yöü hire if yöü were Clark Hünt?

[The Bad Guy]

Whoever is the right hand man to Scott Pioli.

[Sully]

Guy from Patriots (I dunno who... thejanitor for all I care).

Schottenheimer.

Hell... I really don't know.

[RustShack]

Marty

[Hammock Parties]

This franchise is never going to win anything. I think we'll have to force them to move out of Kansas City. Maybe we can get the Texans to move up and replace the Chiefs again. It seemed to work the first time.

[Reerun_KC]

I agree with The Bad Guy...

someone from a winning franchise and attitude.

Absolutely no one from the Carl/Marty bush... We have had enough of that.

[BigMeatballDave]

My left nut wouldn't do much worse...

[RustShack]

It's because we didn't get the rolling roof.

[Bowser]

Anyone not involved with the Chiefs right now.

[Skip Towne]

Hire Marty as GM and get out of his way.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

I don't know. A young creative mind who has a fairly solid background in player personnel.

[blueballs]

This thread is woody worthy

[catfish307]

That older skinny guy who runs around Arrowhead before the games. He wears superman tights and a cape that says something about Jesus.

[Reerun_KC]

Hire Marty as GM and get out of his way.
Why so we can keep Mediocrity alive and well in KC?
thanks but no ****ing thanks to Marty...

Time to clean house and build for a new future!

[Ari ümlaüt]

I say we hire Claytön Wendler. He wöüld be great.

[FAX]

I would offer the position to Floyd Reese. Works the cap like nobody's business. Understands the game. Good PR guy. Unafraid to do what it takes to win.

FAX

[a1na2]

I know that most feel that Carl is the problem.

The problem in KC is not a one man show.

'the Hermit' is the biggest joke in the NFL.

Our OC, if responsible for our game plans, is another joke (I think he is manipulated by the puppetmaster Hermit)

We have no QB coach, we have no O-Line Coach, we have .. I could go on and on here, but you get the point. Gunther is OK, but his time is past as well.

If we are going to improve the team we need to clean house and in cleaning house we have to have a new GM.

As long as 'the Hermit' resides in KC we are screwed totally.

[Bugeater]

I wöüld want sömeöne whö püts thöse little döts över all öf their Os and Us.

[Mecca]

Knowing this team......

It'll be Denny Thum or some other Carl lackey as Carl just moves onto being president and it's more of the same..

They need a total cleanout job but it's just so not this franchise.

[Skip Towne]

Why so we can keep Mediocrity alive and well in KC?
thanks but no ****ing thanks to Marty...

Time to clean house and build for a new future!
Marty has had one losing season in his entire career, dumbass. And he is among the top 10 winningest coaches ever. S_T_F_U

[Reerun_KC]

Marty has had one losing season in his entire career, dumbass. And he is among the top 10 winningest coaches ever. S_T_F_U


Watch your language Grandpa, he is also one of the worst playoff coaches ever as well..

So you S_T_F_U!

[Bwana]

Any bum off the street would be a step up.

[DaneMcCloud]

Marty has had one losing season in his entire career, dumbass. And he is among the top 10 winningest coaches ever. S_T_F_U

Does that make him a GM?

You're a dumbass, old man.

How did Marty do last year with the most talented roster in the NFL (which of course, he didn NOT assemble)?

He was FIRED for his meddling. He went to the Spanos family and the Spanos family fired HIM instead of A.J. Smith.

IF Lamar Hunt would have fired Marty before the 1998 season, the Chiefs may have had a very different season.

San Diego was WISE to not make the same mistake, regardless of this season's outcome.

[a1na2]

Does that make him a GM?

You're a dumbass, old man.

How did Marty do last year with the most talented roster in the NFL (which of course, he didn NOT assemble)?

He was FIRED for his meddling. He went to the Spanos family and the Spanos family fired HIM instead of A.J. Smith.

IF Lamar Hunt would have fired Marty before the 1998 season, the Chiefs may have had a very different season.

San Diego was WISE to not make the same mistake, regardless of this season's outcome.


Another way to prove that ignorance is bliss. That is just stupid lady.

[catfish307]

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Beetlejuice gets my vote

[Skip Towne]

Does that make him a GM?

You're a dumbass, old man.

How did Marty do last year with the most talented roster in the NFL (which of course, he didn NOT assemble)?

He was FIRED for his meddling. He went to the Spanos family and the Spanos family fired HIM instead of A.J. Smith.

IF Lamar Hunt would have fired Marty before the 1998 season, the Chiefs may have had a very different season.

San Diego was WISE to not make the same mistake, regardless of this season's outcome.
Oh no, Dane McClod called me a dumbass. Martywent 14-2 and he DID assemble it. He is as qualified to be a GM as anyone I can think of shit for brains.

[DaneMcCloud]

Oh no, Dane McClod called me a dumbass. Martywent 14-2 and he DID assemble it. He is as qualified to be a GM as anyone I can think of shit for brains.

Really?

Then why hasn't ANY team EVER hired him to be a GM and why has he ALWAYS been fired over personnel reasons?

Cleveland: Personnel
KC: He left of his own volition due to the decisions to sign thugs.
Redskins: Personnel struggles with Cerrato and Snyder
San Diego: Personnel clashes with A.J. Smith.

If he's SOOOOOOOO freaking great, OLD MAN RIVER, why hasn't ANY NFL team hired him?

Take your Geritol and go to bed.

[DaneMcCloud]

Another way to prove that ignorance is bliss. That is just stupid lady.

Yep, that's right.

You're the biggest dumbass in Chiefsplanet history.

And probably, the most hated.

Well beyond me.

[blueballs]

Hermit has got to be a nickname
as retarded as a1a2

[shaneo69]

I would offer the position to Floyd Reese. Works the cap like nobody's business. Understands the game. Good PR guy. Unafraid to do what it takes to win.

FAX

Didn't he get fired after that PacMan pick didn't turn out so well?

[Tribal Warfare]

I know that most feel that Carl is the problem.

The problem in KC is not a one man show.




Yes it is he's the douchebag who hired these F*CKTARDS

[FAX]

Didn't he get fired after that PacMan pick didn't turn out so well?

Pacyoursh*tman had nothing to do with it. All that came out well after Reese was gone. There was basically a rift over the McNair deal and the Vince Young pick. Fisher won and Reese left. Who know who was right or wrong. Time will tell.

I like Reese because he knows the game and has the proven ability to do what it takes to win. Plus, he's a good cap guy - although it should also be said that he took the Tacks into cap hell on their route to the Super Bowl, so that's a bit of a concern, I suppose. But, at least, he got them there.

FAX

[MadMax]

Yes it is he's the douchebag who hired these F*CKTARDS



Clark Kent resigned him, so is he blameless??? :harumph:

[Archie Bunker]

Anyone not involved with the Chiefs right now.
Exactly

[MadMax]

Really?

Then why hasn't ANY team EVER hired him to be a GM and why has he ALWAYS been fired over personnel reasons?

Cleveland: Personnel
KC: He left of his own volition due to the decisions to sign thugs.
Redskins: Personnel struggles with Cerrato and Snyder
San Diego: Personnel clashes with A.J. Smith.

If he's SOOOOOOOO freaking great, OLD MAN RIVER, why hasn't ANY NFL team hired him?

Take your Geritol and go to bed.


I've tried not to say this but you really are an asshole.

[Skip Towne]

Really?

Then why hasn't ANY team EVER hired him to be a GM and why has he ALWAYS been fired over personnel reasons?

Cleveland: Personnel
KC: He left of his own volition due to the decisions to sign thugs.
Redskins: Personnel struggles with Cerrato and Snyder
San Diego: Personnel clashes with A.J. Smith.

If he's SOOOOOOOO freaking great, OLD MAN RIVER, why hasn't ANY NFL team hired him?

Take your Geritol and go to bed.
GFY you pretentious asshole. Marty has almost always been employed as a HC. Half the teams in the NFL would hire him right now. I doubt he would even talk to us about it but I'd give him a shot. The guy wins.

[Tribal Warfare]

Clark Kent resigned him, so is he blameless??? :harumph:



He can redeem himself

[Reerun_KC]

GFY you pretentious asshole. Marty has almost always been employed as a HC. Half the teams in the NFL would hire him right now. I doubt he would even talk to us about it but I'd give him a shot. The guy wins.

Except when it matters the most.....

[DaneMcCloud]

GFY you pretentious asshole. Marty has almost always been employed as a HC. Half the teams in the NFL would hire him right now. I doubt he would even talk to us about it but I'd give him a shot. The guy wins.

Yes, as a HEAD COACH.

You advocated that he be hired as GM. TWO DIFFERENT JOBS. TWO DIFFERENT SKILL SETS.

I put that in caps so you won't need your reading glasses.

Nice rebuttal, BTW. COMPLETELY ignore the subject.

[Deberg_1990]

Whatever happened to Ron Wolf??

Id love to get that guy to come out of retirement.


But im with Mecca, once Carl is gone, they probably promote from within. Its been that way forever with this organization.

Ironically the one time they did "think outside the box" they hired a young Carl Peterson to clean house.

[MadMax]

He can redeem himself


This would be a very good starting point... :)

[ROYC75]

I could live with Carl as GM, handling the FO BS.Just the business side, no players evaluations.

Herm as talent scout, in charge of bring in the talent.

Marty as HC .....

Cam Cameron might be gone in Miami....... OC ?

Keep Gun as DC ........

As for ST's coach ......... Mazlowski ? I dunno .......

[a1na2]

And probably, the most hated.

.

Am I supposed to be insulted by that remark? coming from a total asshole I'm not sure your mojo carries anything.

OMG, what am I going to do? Dane McFAg hates me! OOOO MMMMMMYYYYY

[DaneMcCloud]

I've tried not to say this but you really are an asshole.

You're a n00b.

Enjoy Skip. While you can.

[DaneMcCloud]

Whatever happened to Ron Wolf??

Id love to get that guy to come out of retirement.


He's older than Skip.

And not coming back to the NFL.

[DaneMcCloud]

Am I supposed to be insulted by that remark? coming from a total asshole I'm not sure your mojo carries anything.

OMG, what am I going to do? Dane McFAg hates me! OOOO MMMMMMYYYYY

Oh boy, the gay comments.

Why is it that the most unintelligent posters resort to "gay" comments when they're confronted?

Personal problem?

[a1na2]

Yes it is he's the douchebag who hired these F*CKTARDS

You don't seem to be aware that Carl never, ever, had the last say on the HC's hired in KC. He recommended who he wanted but the Owner, one Mr. Lamar Hunt, made the final decisions.

So what you are saying is that by proxy we have to fire Clark Hunt.

[Bill S Preston]

Buddy Nix, AJ's secret weapon here in San Diego.

[MadMax]

You're a n00b.

Enjoy Skip. While you can.


And you are what??

[Skip Towne]

Yes, as a HEAD COACH.

You advocated that he be hired as GM. TWO DIFFERENT JOBS. TWO DIFFERENT SKILL SETS.

I put that in caps so you won't need your reading glasses.

Nice rebuttal, BTW. COMPLETELY ignore the subject.
I didn't elaborate because you had almost eveything wrong. I don't argue with idiots. Marty left Cleveland because Modell told him to fire his brother. He refused and quit. He left KC over a power struggle with Carl over personnel decisions. Snyder tried to interfere with him in Washington and his contract was bought out. He clashed with AJ Smith over personnel matters and the Spanos family sided with Smith. I'll bet they would like to reconsider that. And the GM job is closely related to HC so it is very possible Marty would be good at it. You can't tell me Marty was spoonfed players at all the places where he has won. He won in spite of those trying to f*ck with him. I'd like to buy you for what you are worth and sell you for what you think you are worth.

[Skip Towne]

Watch your language Grandpa, he is also one of the worst playoff coaches ever as well..

So you S_T_F_U!
Well, he certainly isn't mediocre as you called him. Baby Lee is right, you are a stupid person.

[Hammock Parties]

You don't seem to be aware that Carl never, ever, had the last say on the HC's hired in KC. He recommended who he wanted but the Owner, one Mr. Lamar Hunt, made the final decisions.

So what you are saying is that by proxy we have to fire Clark Hunt.

You have said this about a DOZEN ****ING TIMES NOW.

The blame still lies with Carl for RECOMMENDING our moronic head coaches. He opened the door for their entrance into the organization.

If the Hunts had not trusted Carl's judgment, we wouldn't be sitting here discussing how horrible this franchise is right now.

[Reerun_KC]

Well, he certainly isn't mediocre as you called him. Baby Lee is right, you are a stupid person.


Just because I would rather the Chiefs clean house and remove the stench of Carl/Marty/DV/Gunther/etc, that to wallow in another era with the same results?

Then move over, cause I need that spot on the tard cart.

Dont lose all credibility by siding with Baby Lee... Your better than that...

[Skip Towne]

Just because I would rather the Chiefs clean house and remove the stench of Carl/Marty/DV/Gunther/etc, that to wallow in another era with the same results?

Then move over, cause I need that spot on the tard cart.

Dont lose all credibility by siding with Baby Lee... Your better than that...
Baby Lee has a LOT more credibility on here than you do. No contest.

[Reerun_KC]

Baby Lee has a LOT more credibility on here than you do. No contest.


Oh my god, how will I live with myself? I dont have enough credibility on an internet message board. How can I sustain life itself? The message board bullies are going to beat up my posts...

Oh the irony...

Actually Skippy, I could really careless... Its a freaking message board for god sakes!

[DaneMcCloud]

I didn't elaborate because you had almost eveything wrong. I don't argue with idiots.

Apparently, you are. :rolleyes:

Marty left Cleveland because Modell told him to fire his brother. He refused and quit.

WRONG!

The main reason Marty was fired from Cleveland for refusing to hire an offensive coordinator. Lindy Infante left for Green Bay and Marty took over the offensive play calling duties. He refused to give them up and was fired by Modell. There were personnel issues involved as well but they weren't as pressing as his refusal to hire an O.C.

He left KC over a power struggle with Carl over personnel decisions.

That's exactly what I stated. Use your reading glasses next time.


Snyder tried to interfere with him in Washington and his contract was bought out.

Marty and the Redskins fought over personnel. Vinny Cerrato came over from the Niner's and he's been there ever since. He's Snyder's right hand man and the GM was fired. Marty wanted in on personnel decisions and was negated. FIRED.

Again, isn't this what I stated????? HELLO?


He clashed with AJ Smith over personnel matters and the Spanos family sided with Smith. I'll bet they would like to reconsider that.

HELL FREAKIN' LOW!!!

THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT I STATED.

Regardless, from what I've been told, the Spanos family is happy to be rid of the Schottenheimers. Even if the Chargers lose in the first round again, they're rid of Marty, his family and their meddling. The Chargers will make the playoffs again and at least there's harmony in the front office.

And the GM job is closely related to HC so it is very possible Marty would be good at it. You can't tell me Marty was spoonfed players at all the places where he has won. He won in spite of those trying to f*ck with him.

Again, pure speculation.

Marty hasn't ever proved anything from a personnel standpoint. His draft partnership with Carl Peterson never yielded an NFL starting QB, RB, WR, DT or LB. How can a potential GM not get lucky with all of those first day drafts? Especially, if it's as you say "closely related"?

I'd like to buy you for what you are worth and sell you for what you think you are worth.

You couldn't afford me on your salary. Trust me.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Floyd Reese is a horrendous GM. The entire reason they ended up with that Pac Man pick is because he put them in cap hell, and afterwards, didn't get them enough talent to emerge on the other side.

They are now as they were before...mediocre with a mobile QB who has shit for brains.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

We don't need retread GM's just like we don't need retread QB's.

[MadMax]

Oh my god, how will I live with myself? I dont have enough credibility on an internet message board. How can I sustain life itself? The message board bullies are going to beat up my posts...

Oh the irony...

Actually Skippy, I could really careless... Its a freaking message board for god sakes!



Ummm don't feel bad, I'm a NOOB even after being here for 6 years ROFL I guess post whores and holier than thou ppl that live in Hollywood are the REAL experts and opinions from here mean squat. Blech i'm done for now, I knew we were gonna suck just not this bad... I still like to vent here from time to time...You are still an asshole Dane, and my opinion comes from reading a lot of your condescending posts ;)

[Skip Towne]

Ummm don't feel bad, I'm a NOOB even after being here for 6 years ROFL I guess post whores and holier than thou ppl that live in Hollywood are the REAL experts and opinions from here mean squat. Blech i'm done for now, I knew we were gonna suck just not this bad... I still like to vent here from time to time...You are still an asshole Dane, and my opinion comes from reading a lot of your condescending posts ;)
Amen

[Reerun_KC]

Ummm don't feel bad, I'm a NOOB even after being here for 6 years ROFL I guess post whores and holier than thou ppl that live in Hollywood are the REAL experts and opinions from here mean squat. Blech i'm done for now, I knew we were gonna suck just not this bad... I still like to vent here from time to time...You are still an asshole Dane, and my opinion comes from reading a lot of your condescending posts ;)

It doesnt bother me... I find it humorous.

with out those guys this would be just an ordinary message board.

[RustShack]

Just a question that I don't feel like searching for unless I have too. How did those teams turn out after Marty left due to the personel conflicts?

[DaneMcCloud]

Amen

This from the biggest post whore of all time.

Fraz is right about you. As is everyone else.

I guess I've just always ignored your stupid, old ass.

Good luck with that.

[DaneMcCloud]

It doesnt bother me... I find it humorous.

with out those guys this would be just an ordinary message board.

Same goes for you, Captain. ;)

[FAX]

Floyd Reese is a horrendous GM. The entire reason they ended up with that Pac Man pick is because he put them in cap hell, and afterwards, didn't get them enough talent to emerge on the other side.

They are now as they were before...mediocre with a mobile QB who has shit for brains.

More research required, Mr. 'Hamas' Jenkins, I'm afraid.

FAX

[DaneMcCloud]

Ummm don't feel bad, I'm a NOOB even after being here for 6 years ROFL I guess post whores and holier than thou ppl that live in Hollywood are the REAL experts and opinions from here mean squat. Blech i'm done for now, I knew we were gonna suck just not this bad... I still like to vent here from time to time...You are still an asshole Dane, and my opinion comes from reading a lot of your condescending posts ;)

Cool. I can be an assh*le. And I can be condescending because I get pissed about constantly repeating my points (even after they've been proven, time and time again).

This season has made me bitter. Not bitter with the coaching staff or the Front office (that ship sailed a long time ago and isn't worth my time), but I'm more bitter at the FANS. I thought we all knew this was coming and it's disheartening to know that Peterson has always been right:

The fans of Kansas City can't stomach a true rebuild.

[DaneMcCloud]

Amen

Oh, and thanks for your rebuttal.

Oh yeah, there's no way you can mount a rebuttal.

Get your oldass to bed.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

More research required, Mr. 'Hamas' Jenkins, I'm afraid.

FAX

Reese, is from UCLA, FAX :Lin:

[Mecca]

Shouldn't a rebuild involve seeing progress from young players.......I'm watching guys either not progress or get worse.

[Skip Towne]

This from the biggest post whore of all time.

Fraz is right about you. As is everyone else.

I guess I've just always ignored your stupid, old ass.

Good luck with that.
Oh, you speak for everyone else? You are a pompous ass. This is just another example.

[DaneMcCloud]

Oh, you speak for everyone else? You are a pompous ass. This is just another example.

Nice rebuttal.

I body slammed you and you can't even respond.

Still in pain?

[FAX]

Reese, is from UCLA, FAX :Lin:

I understand you don't like him, Mr 'Hamas' Jenkins and I respect your views. It's just that the Pacman deal had nothing to do with Reese losing his job or anything else other than the fact Pacman was a total asshat in a football uniform.

But check this out ... from that wiki place ... not a bad drafting history overall ...

"From 1999 - 2006, Reese was 3rd in the league in draft choices that remain playing in the NFL and 7th in the NFL in draft choices remaining on the Titans' roster. Since 1997, Reese brought the Titans to one Super Bowl, two AFC Championships, 2 divisional championships, 4 playoff appearances, and a 5-4 playoff record. He also had two 13-3 seasons and four 11+ win seasons. Reese had a league-high 56 wins from 1999-2003."

FAX

[MadMax]

Cool. I can be an assh*le. And I can be condescending because I get pissed about constantly repeating my points (even after they've been proven, time and time again).

This season has made me bitter. Not bitter with the coaching staff or the Front office (that ship sailed a long time ago and isn't worth my time), but I'm more bitter at the FANS. I thought we all knew this was coming and it's disheartening to know that Peterson has always been right:

The fans of Kansas City can't stomach a true rebuild.



Personaly I've been ready for a " rebuild " for 10 years :( But they NEVER cleaned house so it is a half assed rebuild. Then they start a 34 year old BU Qb so im just as frustrated as anyone would be. I would like to believe we are headed the right way but I can't even say that at this point. :banghead: :banghead:

[RustShack]

Bring him in!

[TEX]

Ummm don't feel bad, I'm a NOOB even after being here for 6 years ROFL I guess post whores and holier than thou ppl that live in Hollywood are the REAL experts and opinions from here mean squat. Blech i'm done for now, I knew we were gonna suck just not this bad... I still like to vent here from time to time...You are still an asshole Dane, and my opinion comes from reading a lot of your condescending posts ;)

:clap:

AMEN!

[DaneMcCloud]

Personaly I've been ready for a " rebuild " for 10 years :( But they NEVER cleaned house so it is a half assed rebuild. Then they start a 34 year old BU Qb so im just as frustrated as anyone would be. I would like to believe we are headed the right way but I can't even say that at this point. :banghead: :banghead:

Well, there's absolutely no doubt that you have a fine point.

I just don't think that Carl Peterson is as dumb as the fans contend. I think he hired Herm to oversee a complete reconstruction of the roster, both offense and defense. And since the defense had more young talent, they've chosen to start with that segment of the team.

But all in all, we're all frustrated. And worn out. And tired of an inferior product.

And it's showing on the forum.

[Skip Towne]

Nice rebuttal.

I body slammed you and you can't even respond.

Still in pain?
You're a legend in your own mind.

[DaneMcCloud]

:clap:

AMEN!

You only agree because you have NOTHING to say.

Your posts consist of blaming Herm Edwards, blaming Carl Peterson and agreeing with anyone who criticizes the Chiefs coaching staff and front office.

There's not an original thought in your brain. And if there is, I've seen no evidence from your 11,000 postings.

They're all irrelevant.

[DaneMcCloud]

You're a legend in your own mind.

And you're a moron.

Where's the rebuttal, Bucko?

['Hamas' Jenkins]

I understand you don't like him, Mr 'Hamas' Jenkins and I respect your views. It's just that the Pacman deal had nothing to do with Reese losing his job or anything else other than the fact Pacman was a total asshat in a football uniform.

But check this out ... from that wiki place ... not a bad drafting history overall ...

"From 1999 - 2006, Reese was 3rd in the league in draft choices that remain playing in the NFL and 7th in the NFL in draft choices remaining on the Titans' roster. Since 1997, Reese brought the Titans to one Super Bowl, two AFC Championships, 2 divisional championships, 4 playoff appearances, and a 5-4 playoff record. He also had two 13-3 seasons and four 11+ win seasons. Reese had a league-high 56 wins from 1999-2003."

FAX

To me, aside from his win in an AFC Ch.(which was in part the byproduct of the luckiest play in league history), he has a resume that reminds me too much of CP.

[Mr. Flopnuts]

Yep, that's right.

You're the biggest dumbass in Chiefsplanet history.

And probably, the most hated.

Well beyond me.


It's true Tom. I don't like Dane, but at least he's not a blithering idiot that has no game other than to call men ladies. Take your tired ass sctick and kick rocks chump.

[TEX]

You only agree because you have NOTHING to say.

Your posts consist of blaming Herm Edwards, blaming Carl Peterson and agreeing with anyone who criticizes the Chiefs coaching staff and front office.

There's not an original thought in your brain. And if there is, I've seen no evidence from your 11,000 postings.

They're all irrelevant.

You're such a moron. People try and tell you things but you don't listen. You ask for specific examples and when you're given them, you still don't listen because you're so caught up in your own bull$hit. Just read what others say about you and take notice - you might learn somthing - fool.

[DaneMcCloud]

You're such a moron. People try and tell you things but you don't listen. You ask for specific examples and when you're provided with them, you still don't listen because you're so caught up in your own bull$hit. Just read what others say about you and take notice - you might learn somthing, fool.

Thanks, Tex. I'll take that to heart.

You try do the same, okay?

[TEX]

Thanks, Tex. I'll take that to heart.

You try do the same, okay?

How original... :rolleyes:

[DaneMcCloud]

It's true Tom. I don't like Dane, but at least he's not a blithering idiot that has no game other than to call men ladies. Take your tired ass sctick and kick rocks chump.

That's right.

While me and Mr. Flopnuts are on the opposite end of almost every debate, he still has the balls to stand his ground and call me out. And personally, I'm good with that.

A good debate is worth having. I don't mind getting kicked in the knees every so often as long as I get to swing back.

I appreciate a good adversary.

Or maybe in this case, 50 (or more).

[DaneMcCloud]

How original... :rolleyes:

All right, dude.

I tried to be nice to you and respect your endless drivel.

Game over.

Have a nice day. :rolleyes:

[Mr. Flopnuts]

Am I supposed to be insulted by that remark? coming from a total asshole I'm not sure your mojo carries anything.

OMG, what am I going to do? Dane McFAg hates me! OOOO MMMMMMYYYYY


I have no doubt you're personally insulted by every single negative remark you have hurled at you on this board. Tom it's quite simple to see that you need redemption. You're one of those guys that needs to have people say "Gee Tom, you sure are great. You smart, save the day, son of a gun you!!!" It's obvious by your sorry excuse for a signature. Seriously? Every word you could think of that started with a C beyond an 8th grade comprehension level? You're an attention whore, and you're not that smart. When you figure it out, your life in general will probably start getting easier to manage.

[Mr. Flopnuts]

I didn't elaborate because you had almost eveything wrong. I don't argue with idiots. Marty left Cleveland because Modell told him to fire his brother. He refused and quit. He left KC over a power struggle with Carl over personnel decisions. Snyder tried to interfere with him in Washington and his contract was bought out. He clashed with AJ Smith over personnel matters and the Spanos family sided with Smith. I'll bet they would like to reconsider that. And the GM job is closely related to HC so it is very possible Marty would be good at it. You can't tell me Marty was spoonfed players at all the places where he has won. He won in spite of those trying to f*ck with him. I'd like to buy you for what you are worth and sell you for what you think you are worth.



Game. Set. Match. You're dead on Skippy.

[FAX]

To me, aside from his win in an AFC Ch.(which was in part the byproduct of the luckiest play in league history), he has a resume that reminds me too much of CP.

That was a crazy play. One in a million. But sometimes lightning strikes. And, anyway, it was his players on the field that made the play and they didn't quit when most guys would have done so. I'd much rather bitch about winning via wacky play than bitch about losing.

As for reminiscent of Carl, you have a point if you exempt the continued draft success, playoff wins, Super Bowl, AFC championship games and the like. And remember, the Tacks are in Indy's division.

FAX

[MadMax]

I have no doubt you're personally insulted by every single negative remark you have hurled at you on this board. Tom it's quite simple to see that you need redemption. You're one of those guys that needs to have people say "Gee Tom, you sure are great. You smart, save the day, son of a gun you!!!" It's obvious by your sorry excuse for a signature. Seriously? Every word you could think of that started with a C beyond an 8th grade comprehension level? You're an attention whore, and you're not that smart. When you figure it out, your life in general will probably start getting easier to manage.


ok im confused is A1na2 Tom Cash??? ROFL

[Extra Point]

Terry Shea, who gets to fire Dick Curl in front of Herm.

[Mr. Flopnuts]

Cool. I can be an assh*le. And I can be condescending because I get pissed about constantly repeating my points (even after they've been proven, time and time again).

This season has made me bitter. Not bitter with the coaching staff or the Front office (that ship sailed a long time ago and isn't worth my time), but I'm more bitter at the FANS. I thought we all knew this was coming and it's disheartening to know that Peterson has always been right:

The fans of Kansas City can't stomach a true rebuild.


It pains me to say this Dane, because you piss me off frequently. You are dead ****ing on with this post, and it sickens me to my stomach. However, I think it's time for Carl to move on. He did better than this his 1st year rebuilding here. We've been regressing rapidly since 2003.

[Mr. Flopnuts]

That's right.

While me and Mr. Flopnuts are on the opposite end of almost every debate, he still has the balls to stand his ground and call me out. And personally, I'm good with that.

A good debate is worth having. I don't mind getting kicked in the knees every so often as long as I get to swing back.

I appreciate a good adversary.

Or maybe in this case, 50 (or more).



I guess what we're trying to say Tom, is even though we're divided on almost everything, we can come together to make sure you know in your heart of hearts, that you bring ZERO VALUE to this board. We're not the only ones who have told you so, no?

[Mr. Flopnuts]

ok im confused is A1na2 - ahem, shut your mouth -??? ROFL


lulz. Nailed it.

[DaneMcCloud]

I guess what we're trying to say Tom, is even though we're divided on almost everything, we can come together to make sure you know in your heart of hearts, that you bring ZERO VALUE to this board. We're not the only ones who have told you so, no?

I feel the same way about you, Mr. Flopnuts.

Must be the Holiday Season. :)

[Mecca]

Jack Harry thinks the Chiefs should hire Terry Bradway.......how sad. That might be even worse...

[DaneMcCloud]

Jack Harry thinks the Chiefs should hire Terry Bradway.......how sad. That might be even worse...

I don't think there's any question: Bradway would be MUCH worse.

Jack Harry's a moron.

Is Jack Harry secretly Skip?

[ChiefsCountry]

I'll throw my name in the ring, heck I graduate this week with a sports management degree and I need a job. :)

[booger]

Eric DeCosta is a hot name to throw around for an up an comer.

Pat Moriarty is Ozzie Newsome's right hand man.


http://www.baltimoreravens.com/Team/Default.aspx?id=288

[Eleazar]

Dunno about GM, but I wonder if Mike Singletary would make a good head coach.

[booger]

http://www.titansonline.com/team/administration/staff.php?PRKey=136

To early for him, but he seems to have made a big jump to basically asst gm of Tenn.

[booger]

Dunno about GM, but I wonder if Mike Singletary would make a good head coach.

Who knows, but it will only be a matter of time before someone takes a chance, imo.

[Rausch]

I'll admit I know very little about GM's but I'd like to see us hire a younger guy who can stay here for a good while like Peterson has.

[booger]

what he said

[chiefscafan]

heck i'm probably gonna get the noob title although i;ve been on here for years.


dane I dont know much about the marty situation, but the reason why kc fans are upset is the front office lied to the fan base.

we were told we were retooling but we would still be competitive.

now if carl had said from the get go we are gonna have a rebuild . Then started croyle everyone would of been like we suck but we are building twd something..

but not carl he cares more about money from the sold tickets than the chiefs the huard move proved it to me.

the funny thing is I never really complained about him till this year. That hard knocks was self promoting for him to show how great of a gm and person he is.

so dane we are frustrated because we don't see the future as positive right now.

[ChiefaRoo]

Ummm don't feel bad, I'm a NOOB even after being here for 6 years ROFL I guess post whores and holier than thou ppl that live in Hollywood are the REAL experts and opinions from here mean squat. Blech i'm done for now, I knew we were gonna suck just not this bad... I still like to vent here from time to time...You are still an asshole Dane, and my opinion comes from reading a lot of your condescending posts ;)

Dane, is this really you?
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[BigRedChief]

Unfortunately, I think the next GM will be from the King Carl lineage and none of those excite me at all.

I don't undestand why everyone thinks Pioli is off limits. Why? Just because he's the son-in-law of Bellicheck? He's got a cushy job with the best team in the NFL? Yes, that is really cool and why would a sane person leave that enviorment?

Because of the challenge to do it on his own.

Great excutives love to prove they duplicate their success at their next stop. They have to keep theirselves challanged.

He would have a very loyal fanbase that would embrace him. It would be a "fun" job.

He would be worshipped like King Carl never was. He would not need a bodygaurd.

Clark would offer him a bucketload of money and full control of the Chiefs.

Sure it's a long long shot but I say to you fellow Chief fans why not dream! Why settle?

[txhawk]

To make a true splash in at GM the Chiefs should put a full court press on, wait for it.....

Bill Parcells.

The man can evaluate talent, understands how to build all three facets of the game (def, off, spec. teams). Has a firm grip on the current coaching talent in the NFL, and has a pedigree that is proven in terms of scouting to build a winner.

Sure in his past few stints as a coach, he's made gameday mistakes, but his ability to find players to fit schemes is impressive. He may cost a bundle, but this man knows how to win.

[el borracho]

Bill Parcells is 66 years old and has retired from football 3 different times. He isn't coming here to be our GM and, really, I wouldn't want him to.

[Chief Faithful]

Would Marty Schottenhiemer make a good GM?

[ChiefsCountry]

Would Marty Schottenhiemer make a good GM?

No

[Skip Towne]

Would Marty Schottenhiemer make a good GM?
Yes

[Reerun_KC]

Would Marty Schottenhiemer make a good GM?

NO!

[DaneMcCloud]

Dane, is this really you?


ROFL ROFL

That guy was such a genius.

[chiefscafan]

I like pioli alot but don't know if we have what it takes to get him. What about the excutive under savage or newsome.

we need a good talent evaluator let them get the players with some feedback from herman edwards. Get an OC and let them controll the O and gunther controll the D with edwards giving little speeches perfect plan LOL jk bout edwards

[Baby Lee]

Watch your language Grandpa, he is also one of the worst playoff coaches ever as well..

So you S_T_F_U!
And which GM duties do you see as playoff specific?
I mean, you do realize that arguing that someone would be a bad GM because they have been a bad COACH in some situations is about as relevant as criticizing ability to throw a fastball?

[Baby Lee]

Really?

Then why hasn't ANY team EVER hired him to be a GM and why has he ALWAYS been fired over personnel reasons?

Cleveland: Personnel
KC: He left of his own volition due to the decisions to sign thugs.
Redskins: Personnel struggles with Cerrato and Snyder
San Diego: Personnel clashes with A.J. Smith.

If he's SOOOOOOOO freaking great, OLD MAN RIVER, why hasn't ANY NFL team hired him?

Take your Geritol and go to bed.
And in every single case they thought they could do better and ended up measurably worse.

[Baby Lee]

Just because I would rather the Chiefs clean house and remove the stench of Carl/Marty/DV/Gunther/etc, that to wallow in another era with the same results?

Then move over, cause I need that spot on the tard cart.

Dont lose all credibility by siding with Baby Lee... Your better than that...
Oh my god, how will I live with myself? I dont have enough credibility on an internet message board. How can I sustain life itself? The message board bullies are going to beat up my posts...

Oh the irony...

Actually Skippy, I could really careless... Its a freaking message board for god sakes!

Just so we're clear, your position is that credibility is important for Skip, but not for you?

[Reerun_KC]

And which GM duties do you see as playoff specific?
I mean, you do realize that arguing that someone would be a bad GM because they have been a bad COACH in some situations is about as relevant as criticizing ability to throw a fastball?

:shrug:

Agreed, Who knows what kind of GM Marty actually be? I dont? Do you?


What I was trying to get through to Skip, before he melted down on me. It is time to remove the 2 decades of mediocrity from arrowhead and give us new life... No Carl, Marty (or his coaching bush), Edwards, Vermiel, Gunther, etc....

What is wrong with that? What is wrong with a life long fan wanting something better?

IF there has ever been a perfect time to get this ship sailing straight, this is the time, with a new GM and Coaching Staff.

[DaneMcCloud]

And in every single case they thought they could do better and ended up measurably worse.

Cleveland didn't improve.
Kansas City didn't improve.
Washington didn't improve.

The jury's still out on San Diego. If the Chargers win one playoff game, that will be an improvement.

That being said, his success as a head coach in the regular season doesn't qualify him to be the general manager of a football team.

[Reerun_KC]

Just so we're clear, your position is that credibility is important for Skip, but not for you?

Relax buddy... Its all in good fun, dont take it so serious...

[Sully]

Tee hee...
You said "coaching bush."

tee hee!

[Baby Lee]

Relax buddy... Its all in good fun, dont take it so serious...
I just found it exceedingly funny for you to, in consecutive posts, warn Skip about the horrors of losing credibility, and wax sarcastic about the utter ridiculousness of trying to maintain credibility.

[Baby Lee]

Cleveland didn't improve.
Kansas City didn't improve.
Washington didn't improve.

The jury's still out on San Diego. If the Chargers win one playoff game, that will be an improvement.

That being said, his success as a head coach in the regular season doesn't qualify him to be the general manager of a football team.
Thing is, he's a guy who is a phenomenal success in so many phases of the business, who seems to be cursed at one aspect, the playoffs. So mightn't a perfect position be GM, where he can exert his influence in the areas where he's excelled, and sit back in January an let someone else lift the curse on the field.

My trepidation concerns how his history with the organization might color his future decisions, but that's not to say there isn't a place out there where he'd excell.

[Brock]

Marty didn't really draft well when he was here, if you buy into the coach having a large influence over that in KC. Here is what Marty is good at: Coaching a bad team into a good team. I don't see the qualifications for GM.

[FAX]

Marty didn't really draft well when he was here, if you buy into the coach having a large influence over that in KC. Here is what Marty is good at: Coaching a bad team into a good team. I don't see the qualifications for GM.

That's pretty much the way I see it, Mr. Brock. Marty is clearly gifted as a teacher who can coach up individual players. Apparently, he's also a good motivator. But, those are skills that don't really fall under a GM's responsibilities.

In my view, we need a GM with a proven track record of being able to evaluate talent. Somebody who has drafted well enough and for long enough that the organization can feel confident we can turn around our poor drafting history and tendencies. I'd also like to see somebody with a solid commitment to player development so we can get the most out of those marginal players you acquire along the way.

FAX

[Reerun_KC]

I just found it exceedingly funny for you to, in consecutive posts, warn Skip about the horrors of losing credibility, and wax sarcastic about the utter ridiculousness of trying to maintain credibility.
So tell me Baby Lee, what does credibility on a sports message board, where everyone has a different opinions, thoughts, and ideas actually mean?

Should a select few so called credible ones start dictating the way people think and post here? IF they dont conform to the way certain people think, then they should be banned?

This isnt WPI, This is Chiefsplanet, the best source of Chiefs news in the country... There isnt another sports page I read but this one. I like the diversity and the freedom of people being able to give their thoughts and opinions...

[Baby Lee]

So tell me Baby Lee, what does credibility on a sports message board, where everyone has a different opinions, thoughts, and ideas actually mean?

Should a select few so called credible ones start dictating the way people think and post here? IF they dont conform to the way certain people think, then they should be banned?

This isnt WPI, This is Chiefsplanet, the best source of Chiefs news in the country... There isnt another sports page I read but this one. I like the diversity and the freedom of people being able to give their thoughts and opinions...
Yeah, that's what I was aiming for. I'm itching for the annointment of overlords.
Credibility is your currency for people taking your musings seriously, nothing more.
You were the one warning of the dire consequences of losing credibility for agreeing with another poster.
All I did was point out how silly that warning looked, like, 30 seconds later when the object of your ministrations called your credibility into question, and your laughed it off as a consequence free enterprise.
I'm not saying it's one or the other, but I'm pretty sure it's a metaphysical impossibility for it to be both.
And certainly there is no connection between the idea of remembering the actions of one's past to judge the merits of present musings and implementing a code of thought process with approved arbitors.

[Reerun_KC]

Yeah, that's what I was aiming for. I'm itching for the annointment of overlords.
Credibility is your currency for people taking your musings seriously, nothing more.
You were the one warning of the dire consequences of losing credibility for agreeing with another poster.
All I did was point out how silly that warning looked, like, 30 seconds later when the object of your ministrations called your credibility into question, and your laughed it off as a consequence free enterprise.
I'm not saying it's one or the other, but I'm pretty sure it's a metaphysical impossibility for it to be both.
And certainly there is no connection between the idea of remembering the actions of one's past to judge the merits of present musings and implementing a code of thought process with approved arbitors.

Yeah I got nothing, I was just joking around with Skip, but apparently some people take what is posted as Gospel...