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CosmicPal
12-19-2007, 08:17 PM
THE 2008 KC CHIEFS DRAFT

1st Round

Losing to Detroit will almost surely lock them up for a chance at Jake. If not, I could see the Chiefs using one of their other picks to help move up a couple of notches just to score him.

Jake Long, Offensive Tackle, Michigan
Height: 6-7. Weight: 313.
40 Time: 5.00.
Projected Round: Top 5 Pick.
Currently the top prospect at offensive tackle. Realistically, there could be three offensive tackles chosen in the Top 15.

2nd Round

Chevis Jackson, Cornerback, LSU (8/30)
Height: 6-0. Weight: 190.
40 Time: 4.42.
Projected Round: 2.
Granted, he wasn't going against the greatest aerial attack in the world, but Chevis Jackson played great against Mississippi State. Jackson stole the spotlight almost instantly when he broke up one of the first passes of the game.

Jackson has the athleticism NFL scouts, coaches and GMs will drool over. Can return kickoffs and punts.

3rd Round (1st pick)

Donnie Avery, Wide Receiver, Houston
Height: 5-11. Weight: 190.
40 Time: 4.28.
Projected Round: 2-3.
That 40 time is not a joke. Donnie Avery is also more than a return specialist; he caught 57 passes for 852 yards and five touchdowns last year. A product of Houston's system? Perhaps. Avery has to prove himself, but an NFL squad will give the chance because of his 40 time.

3rd Round (2nd pick)

Mike Pollak, Center, Arizona State
Height: 6-4. Weight: 295.
40 Time: 4.92.
Projected Round: 3.
Any lineman who can run under five in the 40 has my attention. Started every game for Arizona State last year. Second team All-Pac 10.

4th round

Owen Schmitt, Fullback, West Virginia
Height: 6-3. Weight: 250.
40 Time: 4.81.
Projected Round: 4.
Carried the ball 13 times for 109 yards in the Gator Bowl against Georgia Tech.

5th round (1st pick)

Robert Felton, Offensive Guard, Arkansas
Height: 6-4. Weight: 316.
40 Time: 5.38.
Projected Round: 5.
If Darren McFadden and Felix Jones both have another great year, Robert Felton's stock may rise again.

5th round (2nd pick)

Alexis Serna, Place kicker, Oregon State
Height: 5-8. Weight: 170.
Projected Round: 5-6.
Nailed 22-of-29 field goals in 2006, making 4-of-6 from beyond 50 yards with a long of 58.

6th round

Nile Legania, Wayne State
Height: 5-10. Weight: 185.
40 Time: 4.24.
Projected Round: 5-6.
One of the fastest player in the draft, Nile Legania will return kicks and punts for his next team.

7th round (1st pick)

Lionell Singleton, Cornerback, Florida International
Height: 5-10. Weight: 174.
40 Time: 4.42.
Projected Round: 6.
One of the players suspended in the Miami-Florida International melee. Picked off five passes in 2006 despite missing that game. A two-year starter, Lionell Singleton runs a nice 40, and can return kicks and punts.

7th round (2nd pick)

Tim Silver, Offensive Tackle, Richmond
Height: 6-6. Weight: 320.
40 Time: 5.15.
Projected Round: 7.
Tim Silver is a two-year starter, who runs well for his size. Level of competition is an issue.

7th round (3rd pick)

Red Keith, Inside Linebacker, Central Michigan
Height: 5-11. Weight: 240.
40 Time: 4.76.
Projected Round: 7.
Red Keith, a member of the 2006 All-MAC First Team, has registered at least 100 tackles the past two seasons. May slip because he doesn't have the workout numbers, but I think he could be a bit of a sleeper.

FREE AGENT DRAFT CONSIDERATIONS 2008:

Marcus Watts, SS, Kansas State
Height: 6-1. Weight: 189.
40 Time: 4.52.
Projected Round: FA.
Started just five games in 2006, thanks to a hand injury. Still managed to accumulate three picks and two sacks.

Tierre Green, SS, Nebraska
Height: 6-1. Weight: 200.
40 Time: 4.56.
Projected Round: FA.
Has the versatility and speed to play cornerback as well.

Shaheer McBride, Wide Receiver, Delaware State
Height: 6-3. Weight: 190.
40 Time: 4.54.
Projected Round: FA.
If Shaheer McBride drops his 40 to 4.45, he will get drafted. Compiled a total of 1,572 yards and 17 touchdowns the past two seasons.

Alex Brink, Quarterback, Washington State
Height: 6-3. Weight: 215.
40 Time: 4.67.
Projected Round: FA.
Rebounded from a horrible opening game at Auburn to have a solid season; threw for 2,899 yards, 19 TDs and 10 INTs. In 2005, he compiled 2,891 yards, 24 TDs and 13 picks.

Matt Hahn, Fullback, Penn State
Height: 6-0. Weight: 236.
40 Time: 4.69.
Projected Round: FA.
The full-time starter at fullback for Penn State this year, Matt Hahn caught 10 passes in 2006.

Gary Guyton, Outside Linebacker, Georgia Tech
Height: 6-2. Weight: 240.
40 Time: 4.63.
Projected Round: FA.
Started 12 of 14 games in 2006, recording two sacks.

Nigel Morris, Cornerback, Toledo
Height: 6-0. Weight: 181.
40 Time: 4.44.
Projected Round: FA.
Picked off two passes in 2006.

NFL 2008 FREE AGENT PROSPECTS TO CONSIDER TARGETING DURING THE OFFSEASON:

Rex Grossman, UFA, Quarterback, Chicago Bears
There seems to be debate over Grossman on a regular basis. Many fail to believe that he will ever lead any team to a title, while others argue that he’s still relatively young and has shown flashes of greatness. Regardless of the side you take, there’s something intriguing when it comes to the Florida alum. It may have to do with his QB rating of over 100 in seven games of the season with 148 in week two, and a rating at or below 36.8 five weeks of the season, including a rating of zero in the final game of the ‘06 season. The Bears seem confident in Grossman’s development, and there are certainly teams that would take a chance on a player who took the snaps from center for an NFC Championship team. Given Grossman’s age and the team’s current status, it’s a good bet that he’ll be in Chicago this time next year, assuming he doesn’t implode in ’07.

Bernard Berrian, UFA, Wide Receiver, Chicago Bears
Berrian was able to put together a decent season in ’06. His 51 receptions and six touchdowns aren’t overly impressive, but they do suggest that he is an improving talent and may be a strong number two option or a decent number one option down the road. His size isn’t ideal, but his speed and athleticism has countered that enough to allow him to be a solid contributor. At just 26 years of age, Berrian will garner interest from teams looking to capitalize on his growth at the position.

Bryant Johnson, UFA, Wide Receiver, Arizona Cardinals
Johnson could fly under the radar this season, but those in the know consider him quite talented. He’s overshadowed by star receivers Larry Fitzgerald and Anquan Boldin, but Johnson runs great routes, has good hands, and at 6’3” his size makes him an appealing option. He’s caught at least 35 passes in each of his four seasons, including 49 receptions in 2004, and has a touchdown scored in each season, with four coming in ’06. Johnson will likely find a bigger role in another offense in ’08.

Max Starks, UFA, Offensive Tackle, Pittsburgh Steelers
Starks is young and massive, and another Pittsburgh player that may leave the Steel City. He’s 25 and is listed at 6’7” while weighing 337 pounds. His size and age will make him a desired player on many team’s list. A top tier tackle will always garner interest and Starks may lead the free agent class at the spot because of the high level of play he has shown on the field.

Floyd Womack, UFA, Offensive Guard, Seattle Seahawks
A big, experienced guard, Womack could get a decent offer from any team missing out on a top tier target like Faneca. If Womack isn’t the outright starter in Seattle this season, look for him to find work elsewhere with an expanded role guaranteed.

Jared Allen, UFA, Defensive End, Kansas City Chiefs
Allen’s sack total dropped in ’06, but he still posted 7.5 and raised his tackle total a good deal. He’ll be back in Kansas City for the upcoming season, but there’s a good chance that he’ll try the market out come next offseason. He’s just 25 years of age, and has shown that he is among the league’s best at his position. He’ll be a high priority for several teams once the signing period opens.

Corey Williams, UFA, Defensive Tackle, Green Bay Packers
A starting defensive tackle for a rejuvenated and strong Green Bay team, Williams has helped the Packers become one of the better defensive units around. Williams was injured in the team’s latest game, but he has been able to tally seven sacks—matching his 2006 total—along with 23 total tackles through eleven games while playing significant minutes. He has been very disruptive and will receive strong interest as a free agent this upcoming offseason.

Hammock Parties
12-19-2007, 08:21 PM
Ignore DT? Great.

AggressiveNapkin
12-19-2007, 08:21 PM
Good post

That is a very solid draft IMO

AggressiveNapkin
12-19-2007, 08:22 PM
Ignore DT? Great.

True..Didn't notice that and DT is one of our major concerns

Rain Man
12-19-2007, 08:23 PM
I'll bet you're wrong on at least one of these.

CoMoChief
12-19-2007, 08:28 PM
If we even think about Grossman I will start rooting for Denver.

Mecca
12-19-2007, 08:33 PM
If you wanna use a 3rd round pick on a WR why don't you pick a guy like Eddie Royal who can do punts and kicks too?

I still think the talent in this draft leads to not taking a OT with the first pick but the 2nd.

Mr. Laz
12-19-2007, 08:34 PM
nice work ... although i don't particularly want a fullback that carries the ball. I don't want a fullback that catches the ball a ton either.

I want one that couldn't make it as a RB and takes his frustration out by knocking the crap out of people and 4th round is probably to early for one of those.



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4th round

Owen Schmitt, Fullback, West Virginia
Height: 6-3. Weight: 250.
40 Time: 4.81.
Projected Round: 4.
Carried the ball 13 times for 109 yards in the Gator Bowl against Georgia Tech.
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HolmeZz
12-19-2007, 08:36 PM
nice work ... although i don't particularly want a fullback that carries the ball. I want one that couldn't make it as a RB and takes out his frustration by knocking the crap out of people and 4th round is probably to early for one of those.

That's exactly what Schmitt is.

Mr. Laz
12-19-2007, 08:36 PM
That's exactly what Schmitt is.

"Carried the ball 13 times for 109 yards in the Gator Bowl against Georgia Tech"

Dunit35
12-19-2007, 08:39 PM
Schmitt looked like a badass on espn when they did a special on him.

Mecca
12-19-2007, 08:40 PM
"Carried the ball 13 times for 109 yards in the Gator Bowl against Georgia Tech"

He's just using that as a description he could have given a better one...Pat White, Steve Slaton and Noel Devine do most of the running at that school.

HolmeZz
12-19-2007, 08:41 PM
"Carried the ball 13 times for 109 yards in the Gator Bowl against Georgia Tech"

Yes. You should probably better acquaint yourself with Owen Schmitt. He hits and he hits hard.

Mr. Laz
12-19-2007, 08:43 PM
He's just using that as a description he could have given a better one...Pat White, Steve Slaton and Noel Devine do most of the running at that school.
fair enough ... don't know jack about him.

was just going by the description provided :shrug:

shaneo69
12-19-2007, 08:53 PM
Cool---we're gonna draft another FB and K. Had you thrown in a couple more TE's, I might have given this draft my endorsement.

the Talking Can
12-19-2007, 08:54 PM
I doubt we trade up for long, it would cost us a first day pick. But maybe.

I'd like to get Jenkins, CB, from Southern Florida in the 2nd, but his stock will probably rise before then.

I'm not gonna freak out if we take long. But with the number of LT in the first two rounds, it sure seems we could a) grab Ellis and a LT in the 2nd, or trade down for a LT and get an extra 2nd.

And what about Ryan? What if Carl gets a glimpse of him and falls in love?

I agree we need another WR, but I know nothing about college WRs. Bryant from Arizona sure looks like a great FA fit for us (untapped upside).

We really need a Center too. 2nd round should be the BAA between CB and C/OT.

blah blah who knows...lol...we'll change our minds 1,000,000 times between now and april..

Mr. Laz
12-19-2007, 08:57 PM
I'm not gonna freak out if we take long. But with the number of LT in the first two rounds, it sure seems we could a) grab Ellis and a LT in the 2nd, or trade down for a LT and get an extra 2nd

aren't you always talking about taking the BPA and not grabbing for need.

isn't what you just said messing around and not taking BPA?

the Talking Can
12-19-2007, 09:03 PM
aren't you always talking about taking the BPA and not grabbing for need.

isn't what you just said messing around and not taking BPA?

I'm just trying to be civil...

and I'm not sure the verdict on Long is in yet, i.e. is he a true LT or a RT in the pros...

but mostly, I don't think we'll have a shot at him...which leaves us Ellis (to clarify, Ellis is mostly likely the BAA at #6 or #7), which is fine by me...

AggressiveNapkin
12-19-2007, 09:03 PM
I doubt we trade up for long, it would cost us a first day pick. But maybe.

I'd like to get Jenkins, CB, from Southern Florida in the 2nd, but his stock will probably rise before then.

I'm not gonna freak out if we take long. But with the number of LT in the first two rounds, it sure seems we could a) grab Ellis and a LT in the 2nd, or trade down for a LT and get an extra 2nd.

And what about Ryan? What if Carl gets a glimpse of him and falls in love?

I agree we need another WR, but I know nothing about college WRs. Bryant from Arizona sure looks like a great FA fit for us (untapped upside).

We really need a Center too. 2nd round should be the BAA between CB and C/OT.

blah blah who knows...lol...we'll change our minds 1,000,000 times between now and april..

Yeah i would think Jenkins would be gone by then. If Antoine Cason was still around that would be a decent pick at that point

Hammock Parties
12-19-2007, 09:05 PM
6. Williams and Bryant Johnson would be good pickups but I doubt we can afford either.

Why? We have tons of cap room.

louie aguiar
12-19-2007, 09:36 PM
Do we have two third round picks?

Tribal Warfare
12-19-2007, 09:38 PM
BPA always, and how it looks it will either be Malcolm Jenkins or Sedrick Ellis for the 1st round

The Franchise
12-19-2007, 09:38 PM
Do we have two third round picks?

That's what I was thinking.

Mr. Laz
12-19-2007, 10:52 PM
why aren't we signing Jared allen this year to keep cap room for next?

FRCDFED
12-19-2007, 11:00 PM
We'll never draft a FB. If we were to have a true FB play the FB position then we would be conforming to the rest of the league. It just makes too much sense.

Besides, we have too many LB's and secret weapon TE's that need to make the squad.

Zouk
12-19-2007, 11:01 PM
If you wanna use a 3rd round pick on a WR why don't you pick a guy like Eddie Royal who can do punts and kicks too?



Agree bigtime on Eddie Royal. All time ACC leader in punt returns would be a great match for the Chiefs.

With LJ, Kolby, Bowe, and Gonzalez, the team has some nice move-the-chains targets. Now they desperately need a playmaker with game breaking big play speed to add to that mix. Whether Royal is sufficient for that, I don't know. DeSean Jackson may be of interest too.

BigChiefFan
12-19-2007, 11:11 PM
why aren't we signing Jared allen this year to keep cap room for next?
I asked that same question a few months ago and the conclusion I drew was it's that the organization is too damn tight with their money. I drew the comparision between winning organization like the Cowboys and going ahead and getting Romo signed long-term NOW compared to Carl taking great pride in having a PB DE being paid a below average wage compared to others at his position. Re-signing JA NOW is the way to go, but 19 years later, Carl still believes getting the bargain now is better than actually getting a contract done to have a gameplan for the future. Our organization is a ****ing joke.

alanm
12-20-2007, 12:45 AM
why aren't we signing Jared allen this year to keep cap room for next?
I've no doubt that Carl has probably been working on a contract for Allen this fall. If Freeney set the bar last year Allen will have a sweet check to deposit in the very near future. Carl would be insane to let Jared entertain outside offers. :shake:

Uncle_Ted
12-20-2007, 01:30 AM
If we even think about Grossman I will start rooting for Denver.
My sentiments exactly. The Bears got to the SB last year in spite of him, not because of him.

'Hamas' Jenkins
12-20-2007, 02:10 AM
F*ck drafting a fullback

RedThat
12-20-2007, 02:28 AM
You have to think, Chiefs gotta go for the OT and DT in rounds 1 and 2.
they have to address the lines first. Sign a G in FA, and it doesn't have to be a big name, someone like a Jake Scott would be fine. So lets say they have Waters, Niswanger, McIntosh, Scott, and Long as their offensive line. Not bad.

Then you have 3 solid Defensive lineman in Allen, Boone, and Hali. The Chiefs really need to find a really really good runstuffing DT. If they get that in the 2nd round, I won't complain. It is what this team needs right now a runstuffing DT. The Chiefs do get enough pressure from allen, boone and Hali? They just can't stop the run? I think mainly in part to lack of personnel on the D-line and scheme.

Then I think the Chiefs could use a WR or a CB? You have to think, Kennison and Law are old, and probably not going to around next year. The Chiefs have to address those positions, and to even mention they are incredibily thin when it comes to depth at those positions. So I would go for either a CB or WR in rounds 3 and 4.

*I think these are the most important positions this team needs to address through the draft. There was some talk earlier about people wanting the Chiefs to draft a FB in the 4th round? I think Grigsby could play that position well. It's only a matter of time before he gets better. Hey, he's been throwing some nice blocks of late? Im impressed with him.

I think the Chiefs could also use depth at safety or possibly find a late gem in the later rounds? added depth would be good there, and of course possibly give Pollard another chance?

RedThat
12-20-2007, 02:44 AM
Even signing a guy like Bryan Johnson would probably be a good bargain. He's a tier 2 guy who can be a solid pickup? He's playing behind Boldin and Fitzgerald and is not doing that bad? Maybe worth a shot at going after? And then address CB's, safeties in rounds 3,4, and 5?