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acesn8s
01-19-2008, 01:30 PM
http://www.footballsfuture.com/2008/nflmockdraft.html

For the "QB in the first round" folks


2008 NFL Mock Draft

By: Robert Davis | Updated: 1/15 Miami - Glenn Dorsey DT LSU (http://www.footballsfuture.com/2008/prospects/glenn_dorsey.html)
The Phins need playmakers. Dorsey is an anchor on the defensive line, something the Phins really need.
St. Louis - Chris Long DE Virginia (http://www.footballsfuture.com/2008/prospects/chris_long.html)
The Rams consider Jake, but take the defensive Long instead.
Atlanta - Matt Ryan QB Boston College (http://www.footballsfuture.com/2008/prospects/matt_ryan.html)
Ryan’s combination of talent and intelligence has vaulted him to the top of the QB class. The Falcons need a signal caller to be a leader, and that is exactly what Ryan is.
Oakland - Jake Long OT Michigan (http://www.footballsfuture.com/2008/prospects/jake_long.html)
The Raiders could not have hoped for it to work out any better than this. Long should be able to step in immediately at OT and help balance the offense.
Kansas City - Andre Woodson QB Kentucky (http://www.footballsfuture.com/2008/prospects/andre_woodson.html)
It is hard to pass on Long, but they may be able to find a tackle in Round Two. A QB like this can only be had at this point, so the QB wins out.
NY Jets - Darren McFadden RB Arkansas (http://www.footballsfuture.com/2008/prospects/darren_mcfadden.html)
Teams will not make the same mistake they did with Adrian Peterson, so look for someone to move up for him. If he does fall this far, the Jets will be elated to find a franchise caliber performer still on the board.
New England(via SF) - Vernon Gholston OLB Ohio St. (http://www.footballsfuture.com/2008/prospects/vernon_gholston.html)
With James Laurinitis returning to school, the Pats go for his teammate. Gholston projects well to a 3-4 OLB. The Pats need more help inside, but his upside at the OLB spot is too much to pass on at this point.
Baltimore - Brian Brohm QB Louisville (http://www.footballsfuture.com/2008/prospects/brian_brohm.html)
Whoever the new coach is, will need a new QB to run the offense. Brohm is the best left on the board and is the player the Ravens need to look at.
Cincinnati - Sedrick Ellis DT USC (http://www.footballsfuture.com/2008/prospects/sedrick_ellis.html)
A dominant senior season has vaulted Ellis into a Top 10 candidate. The Bengals need help at linebacker, but an all around talent on the interior line will put less pressure on the linebacking core.
New Orleans - Antoine Cason CB Arizona (http://www.footballsfuture.com/2008/prospects/antoine_cason.html)
Cason may not be the best physical specimen, but he is the best corner in the draft. The Saints are still in search of a shutdown corner and they hope Cason is the guy.
Buffalo - Mike Jenkins CB South Florida (http://www.footballsfuture.com/2008/prospects/mike_jenkins.html)
A big senior year for the Bulls has resulted in a huge rise up the boards for Jenkins. His all around talent could help the Bills replace what they lost when Nate Clements left a year ago.
Denver - Keith Rivers LB USC (http://www.footballsfuture.com/2008/prospects/keith_rivers.html)
Rivers’ speed and athleticism on the outside would be an excellent fit for the Broncos. They need talent at linebacker, and Rivers could step in right away and be a playmaker from the weakside spot.
Carolina - Kenny Phillips S Miami (http://www.footballsfuture.com/2008/prospects/kenny_phillips.html)
Phillips is the clearcut top safety, and a guy who could be in the pro bowl very shortly. His talent will allow him to play either safety spot, and for a team needing an upgrade at safety, its an easy pick to make.
Chicago - Ryan Clady OT Boise St. (http://www.footballsfuture.com/2008/prospects/ryan_clady.html)
The Bears would love to land a QB, but the big three are gone. Instead they improve their protection and go for the athletic tackle from Boise St.
Detroit - Leodis McKelvin CB Troy
McKelvin had a big senior year and made a name for himself because of his natural athletic gifts. He is a player that could have a big post season, so do not be surprised to see him selected before many think.
Arizona - Calais Campbell DE Miami (http://www.footballsfuture.com/2008/prospects/calais_campbell.html)
His upside is tremendous. He is a talented pass rusher, but has fantastic size to be a factor in the running game as well. After workouts he could go higher, but he is a work in progress.
Minnesota - Derrick Harvey DE Florida (http://www.footballsfuture.com/2008/prospects/derrick_harvey.html)
Harvey is a talented pass rusher off the edge, which is just what the Vikes need. They may be unsure of Tavaris Jackson’s long term future, but there is no better option here. Harvey brings the pressure off the edge they need.
Houston - Jonathan Stewart RB Oregon (http://www.footballsfuture.com/2008/prospects/jonathan_stewart.html)
A WR would be nice to compliment Andre Johnson but an all around back like Stewart is too tough to pass on. He can carry it between the tackles and keep the chains moving, but can also get outside the tackles and make things happen.
Philadelphia - DeSean Jackson WR Cal (http://www.footballsfuture.com/2008/prospects/desean_jackson.html)
Jackson may not be the best receiver available, but his all around talent makes him the pick. His explosive playmaking ability is something the Eagles could use at WR, and his ability on special teams would add another element to the team.
Tampa Bay - Sam Baker OT USC (http://www.footballsfuture.com/2008/prospects/sam_baker.html)
The Bucs need to find some stability at the tackle position, and Baker should provide that. He is a rock at tackle that could play all along the offensive line.
Washington - Quentin Groves DE Auburn (http://www.footballsfuture.com/2008/prospects/quentin_groves.html)
The Skins are always looking for a playmaking end, and they may have found the answer. Groves had an average senior season playing through pain, but he should be ready to impress in workouts.
Dallas (via CLE) - Justin King CB Penn St.
King has all the talent to develop into a shut down corner, he is just a little short on experience. The Cowboys can afford to bring him along slowly, and he could eventually shift Anthony Henry over to safety.
Pittsburgh - Jeff Otah OT Pitt (http://www.footballsfuture.com/2008/prospects/jeff_otah.html)
Otah’s size and power would fit in nicely at RT where he could be a standout early on. His upside is tremendous and may be able to play on the left side in time.
Tennessee - Malcolm Kelly WR Oklahoma (http://www.footballsfuture.com/2008/prospects/malcolm_kelly.html)
Kelly may be the best WR in this class, but the need at the position pushes him down this far. His size and go to capability would be a huge get for Vince Young and the Titans.
Seattle - Fred Davis TE USC (http://www.footballsfuture.com/2008/prospects/fred_davis.html)
The former WR has blossomed into an all around threat at TE. He should be able to follow up his fine senior year with excellent workouts, making him the top tight end selected.
NY Giants - Dan Connor LB Penn St. (http://www.footballsfuture.com/2008/prospects/dan_connor.html)
Connor brings the versatility and attitude that should make him a hit as a Giant. He could help out in a number of roles, and should make an impact immediately.
Jacksonville - Harry Douglas, WR, Louisville (http://www.footballsfuture.com/2008/prospects/harry_douglas.html)
Douglas would bring the type of speed and homerun ability the Jags need at the WR spot. They have some big, physical targets at receiver and tight end but nobody to consistently stretch the field.
San Diego - Frank Okam DT Texas (http://www.footballsfuture.com/2008/prospects/frank_okam.html)
You can never have enough talented defensive lineman. Especially at this point in the draft, and one that has the upside and verstility of Okam.
Dallas - Felix Jones Rb Arkansas
The Boys are about to watch Julius Jones walk in free agency, and replace him with Felix. His homerun ability next to Marion Barber is an excellent compliment.
San Francisco (via IND) - Mario Manningham WR Michigan (http://www.footballsfuture.com/2008/prospects/mario_manningham.html)
Manningham may not be the biggest or fastest receiver, but his big play ability stands out. His ability to go up and get the football would help out Alex Smith and the entire 9er offense.
Green Bay - Reggie Smith DB Oklahoma
Smith has the ability to play safety or corner, but the Pack take him with the idea of him developing at the CB spot. He may need a little time, but for a team with some solid veterans, it is a perfect situation for him to develop.
New England - forfeited

Mecca
01-19-2008, 01:32 PM
The logic behind the pick is sound, because the Chiefs can take a starting LT with their next pick...I probably wouldn't be to upset with that pick.

Deberg_1990
01-19-2008, 01:34 PM
Id rather take a 2nd round OT VS. a 2nd round QB.

HolmeZz
01-19-2008, 01:36 PM
They wouldn't be passing on Long, which is why the pick summary makes no sense.

FAX
01-19-2008, 01:42 PM
This may be the strangest one yet. McFadden at 6 and Ellis at 9?

FAX

acesn8s
01-19-2008, 01:44 PM
This may be the strangest one yet. McFadden at 6 and Ellis at 9?

FAXAnd Brady Quinn is still falling in the draft....

Mecca
01-19-2008, 01:44 PM
Ellis is projected to the Bengals at 9 in pretty much every mock I've read so far...that seems to be pretty consensus so far.

Mecca
01-19-2008, 01:46 PM
LOL......I'm sorry the Cowboys trading up for McFadden would be ****in stupid. They don't have to move at all and can still get their mix for Barber..they have no reason to be trading picks.

FAX
01-19-2008, 01:50 PM
New England - forfeited

I like this part.

FAX

HolmeZz
01-19-2008, 01:54 PM
So yeah, this is a horrible draft. Justin King is not a first rounder and neither is Harry Douglas. And he forgot Rashard Mendenhall.

Mecca
01-19-2008, 01:56 PM
Some of those picks do suck but unless Seattle/Dallas takes Mendenhall I could see him falling out of the first..

Not a ton of teams have RB needs and he will either be 3rd or 4th on teams boards.

jjchieffan
01-19-2008, 02:36 PM
I hope that if that scenario plays out on the first 4 picks, that we trade down. I think Woodson would be a reach at 5.

Mecca
01-19-2008, 02:41 PM
The odds of a team being willing to trade down with the Chiefs isn't going to be good......whens the last time a top 5 team traded out?

BigMeatballDave
01-19-2008, 03:02 PM
I'd be furious if they took Woodson with the 5th.

Mecca
01-19-2008, 03:03 PM
I'd be furious if they took Woodson with the 5th.

Because...

BigMeatballDave
01-19-2008, 03:07 PM
Because...Its a reach.

Also, why are the Chiefs selecting 5th in all these mocks? Aren't these idiots aware of the impending coin flip?

StcChief
01-19-2008, 03:13 PM
They wouldn't be passing on Long, which is why the pick summary makes no sense.
yep.

that's the media wanting the story of him going to Faiders like Howie :rolleyes:

Mecca
01-19-2008, 03:18 PM
Its a reach.

Also, why are the Chiefs selecting 5th in all these mocks? Aren't these idiots aware of the impending coin flip?

Odds are we'll be picking 5th...

Frankie
01-19-2008, 03:59 PM
who the **** is robert davis?
Obviously not the sharpest knife in the draft drawer. Look at his picks 4 and 5 below and read his explanations:


4. Oakland - Jake Long OT Michigan (http://www.footballsfuture.com/2008/prospects/jake_long.html)
The Raiders could not have hoped for it to work out any better than this. Long should be able to step in immediately at OT and help balance the offense.

5. Kansas City - Andre Woodson QB Kentucky (http://www.footballsfuture.com/2008/prospects/andre_woodson.html)
It is hard to pass on Long, but they may be able to find a tackle in Round Two. A QB like this can only be had at this point, so the QB wins out.

Chiefmanwillcatch
01-19-2008, 04:07 PM
Never Woodson. That guy only had a decent year.

Brohm has been way more consistent and accurate.

I don't want a Vincent Young type QB who can't throw but only scramble.

I would take the USC Dtackle before Brohm. Maybe Clady. Our need there is too strong.

Mecca
01-19-2008, 04:42 PM
Never Woodson. That guy only had a decent year.

Brohm has been way more consistent and accurate.

I don't want a Vincent Young type QB who can't throw but only scramble.

I would take the USC Dtackle before Brohm. Maybe Clady. Our need there is too strong.

Uh why do you think Woodson runs? Cause he's black? He's not a runner at all his 40 is about the same as Matt Ryans...

evolve27
01-19-2008, 04:57 PM
Never Woodson. That guy only had a decent year.

Brohm has been way more consistent and accurate.

I don't want a Vincent Young type QB who can't throw but only scramble.

I would take the USC Dtackle before Brohm. Maybe Clady. Our need there is too strong.

His article even says, "As with most pocket passers, Woodson does not bring much in the form of mobility. He is not going to do much outside of the pocket with his feet."

HolmeZz
01-19-2008, 05:03 PM
Never Woodson. That guy only had a decent year.

Dumbass.

Brohm: 30 TDs, 12 INTs, 65% completion, 4,000 yards
Woodson: 40 TDs, 11 INTs, 63% completion, 3,700 yards
Ryan: 31 TDs, 19 INTs, 59% completion, 4,500 yards

I don't want a Vincent Young type QB who can't throw but only scramble.

:LOL: Christ, nobody can be this stupid.

Mecca
01-19-2008, 05:09 PM
I'm seriously convinced some people look up see his name is Andre Woodson and that he's black and automatically assume he runs around.

milkman
01-19-2008, 05:29 PM
I'm seriously convinced some people look up see his name is Andre Woodson and that he's black and automatically assume he runs around.

I really don't remember hearing much about Woodson before this past season.

Is he just a one year wonder or did he develop over a couple of years?

Frankie
01-19-2008, 05:51 PM
I really don't remember hearing much about Woodson before this past season.

Is he just a one year wonder or did he develop over a couple of years?
You mean another Todd Blackledge?

Chiefmanwillcatch
01-19-2008, 06:12 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andre'_Woodson

el borracho
01-19-2008, 06:15 PM
pick value charts state that a 4th rnd pick is worth 1800 points while a 5th is worth 1700. Lets go with the scenario that we are drafting 5th.

If dallas offered us their 22nd pick and the 29th pick (780+640=1420) would you take it?
No, why would I take less than our pick is worth? The only trade scenario I would consider to give up the #5 would be a scenario where we are raping the other team.

Brock
01-19-2008, 06:19 PM
Does anybody here even watch college football?

GoTrav
01-19-2008, 06:21 PM
No, why would I take less than our pick is worth? The only trade scenario I would consider to give up the #5 would be a scenario where we are raping the other team.

I've never seen Woodson ranked that high. Couldn't he be had a bit later in the draft?

Hell, after our pick I don't see any team that has a huge need at QB. Possibly Carolina or Minnesota but that would be a reach IMO...

# NY Jets - Darren McFadden RB Arkansas
Teams will not make the same mistake they did with Adrian Peterson, so look for someone to move up for him. If he does fall this far, the Jets will be elated to find a franchise caliber performer still on the board.
# New England(via SF) - Vernon Gholston OLB Ohio St.
With James Laurinitis returning to school, the Pats go for his teammate. Gholston projects well to a 3-4 OLB. The Pats need more help inside, but his upside at the OLB spot is too much to pass on at this point.
# Baltimore - Brian Brohm QB Louisville
Whoever the new coach is, will need a new QB to run the offense. Brohm is the best left on the board and is the player the Ravens need to look at.
# Cincinnati - Sedrick Ellis DT USC
A dominant senior season has vaulted Ellis into a Top 10 candidate. The Bengals need help at linebacker, but an all around talent on the interior line will put less pressure on the linebacking core.
# New Orleans - Antoine Cason CB Arizona
Cason may not be the best physical specimen, but he is the best corner in the draft. The Saints are still in search of a shutdown corner and they hope Cason is the guy.
# Buffalo - Mike Jenkins CB South Florida
A big senior year for the Bulls has resulted in a huge rise up the boards for Jenkins. His all around talent could help the Bills replace what they lost when Nate Clements left a year ago.
# Denver - Keith Rivers LB USC
Rivers’ speed and athleticism on the outside would be an excellent fit for the Broncos. They need talent at linebacker, and Rivers could step in right away and be a playmaker from the weakside spot.
# Carolina - Kenny Phillips S Miami
Phillips is the clearcut top safety, and a guy who could be in the pro bowl very shortly. His talent will allow him to play either safety spot, and for a team needing an upgrade at safety, its an easy pick to make.
# Chicago - Ryan Clady OT Boise St.
The Bears would love to land a QB, but the big three are gone. Instead they improve their protection and go for the athletic tackle from Boise St.
# Detroit - Leodis McKelvin CB Troy
McKelvin had a big senior year and made a name for himself because of his natural athletic gifts. He is a player that could have a big post season, so do not be surprised to see him selected before many think.
# Arizona - Calais Campbell DE Miami
His upside is tremendous. He is a talented pass rusher, but has fantastic size to be a factor in the running game as well. After workouts he could go higher, but he is a work in progress.
# Minnesota - Derrick Harvey DE Florida
Harvey is a talented pass rusher off the edge, which is just what the Vikes need. They may be unsure of Tavaris Jackson’s long term future, but there is no better option here. Harvey brings the pressure off the edge they need.
# Houston - Jonathan Stewart RB Oregon
A WR would be nice to compliment Andre Johnson but an all around back like Stewart is too tough to pass on. He can carry it between the tackles and keep the chains moving, but can also get outside the tackles and make things happen.
# Philadelphia - DeSean Jackson WR Cal
Jackson may not be the best receiver available, but his all around talent makes him the pick. His explosive playmaking ability is something the Eagles could use at WR, and his ability on special teams would add another element to the team.
# Tampa Bay - Sam Baker OT USC
The Bucs need to find some stability at the tackle position, and Baker should provide that. He is a rock at tackle that could play all along the offensive line.
# Washington - Quentin Groves DE Auburn
The Skins are always looking for a playmaking end, and they may have found the answer. Groves had an average senior season playing through pain, but he should be ready to impress in workouts.
# Dallas (via CLE) - Justin King CB Penn St.
King has all the talent to develop into a shut down corner, he is just a little short on experience. The Cowboys can afford to bring him along slowly, and he could eventually shift Anthony Henry over to safety.
# Pittsburgh - Jeff Otah OT Pitt
Otah’s size and power would fit in nicely at RT where he could be a standout early on. His upside is tremendous and may be able to play on the left side in time.
# Tennessee - Malcolm Kelly WR Oklahoma
Kelly may be the best WR in this class, but the need at the position pushes him down this far. His size and go to capability would be a huge get for Vince Young and the Titans.
# Seattle - Fred Davis TE USC
The former WR has blossomed into an all around threat at TE. He should be able to follow up his fine senior year with excellent workouts, making him the top tight end selected.
# NY Giants - Dan Connor LB Penn St.
Connor brings the versatility and attitude that should make him a hit as a Giant. He could help out in a number of roles, and should make an impact immediately.
# Jacksonville - Harry Douglas, WR, Louisville
Douglas would bring the type of speed and homerun ability the Jags need at the WR spot. They have some big, physical targets at receiver and tight end but nobody to consistently stretch the field.
# San Diego - Frank Okam DT Texas
You can never have enough talented defensive lineman. Especially at this point in the draft, and one that has the upside and verstility of Okam.
# Dallas - Felix Jones Rb Arkansas
The Boys are about to watch Julius Jones walk in free agency, and replace him with Felix. His homerun ability next to Marion Barber is an excellent compliment.
# San Francisco (via IND) - Mario Manningham WR Michigan
Manningham may not be the biggest or fastest receiver, but his big play ability stands out. His ability to go up and get the football would help out Alex Smith and the entire 9er offense.
# Green Bay - Reggie Smith DB Oklahoma
Smith has the ability to play safety or corner, but the Pack take him with the idea of him developing at the CB spot. He may need a little time, but for a team with some solid veterans, it is a perfect situation for him to develop.
# New England - forfeited

OnTheWarpath15
01-19-2008, 06:24 PM
I've never seen Woodson ranked that high. Couldn't he be had a bit later in the draft?

Yeah, like about 10-15 spots later. Maybe more, maybe a bit less. We'll see how the combine goes for him.

The kid probably has the greatest upside of the group, but needs some time to develop......he's a raw talent.

milkman
01-19-2008, 06:27 PM
Does anybody here even watch college football?

No.
We don't.

Why do you ask?

Brock
01-19-2008, 06:28 PM
No.
We don't.

Why do you ask?

Because comparing Woodson to Vince Young is incredibly stupid.

Chiefmanwillcatch
01-20-2008, 02:29 AM
I haven't heard the QB gurus pump up Woodson.

I haven't heard any good reviews about him.

I don't care for how many yards he throws since that can be inflated by system.

I don't want a Michael Vick type who has a big arm and rock for brains. Include Ksu Qb Michael Bishop. He put up big yards and nice stats but couldn't play in a sophisticated offense.

Woodson stat-wise had a good year but Broehm seems more consistent.

Arm strength is overrated in my opinion.(dante cullpepper, vick)

Accuracy,intelligence(for sophisticated offenses) and reading defenses is more. important.

Henning in lower rounds???? Hmmmm. that would be good.

CoMoChief
01-20-2008, 02:43 AM
I would start rooting for CHI if we picked Woodson.

suds79
01-20-2008, 02:50 AM
Chiefmanwillgetyou,

you realize that Woodson completed 63.1% of his passes this year don't you?

That tops Matt Ryans 59.3% and is just shy of Brian Brohm's 65.1%

I'm not saying he's my favorite but to compare him to Vick and/or Bishop is a reach IMO.

Completely different type of QBs.

Frankie
01-20-2008, 02:55 AM
Chiefmanwillgetyou,

you realize that Woodson completed 63.1% of his passes this year don't you?

That tops Matt Ryans 59.3% and is just shy of Brian Brohm's 65.1%

I'm not saying he's my favorite but to compare him to Vick and/or Bishop is a reach IMO.

Completely different type of QBs.
I mentioned Todd Blackledge earlier because we drafted hum solely based on his senior year. I am very weary of those who showed up only in their senior year. Some may pan out. But most will fizzle.

suds79
01-20-2008, 03:02 AM
I mentioned Todd Blackledge earlier because we drafted hum solely based on his senior year. I am very weary of those who showed up only in their senior year. Some may pan out. But most will fizzle.

Agreed. As a rule of thumb I'd like to see the Chiefs draft guys who have put together at the very least 2 good to great years.

Which is why I'm not sure Brohm isn't getting as much love.

Maybe it's just me but it seems like he's been lighting it up for years.

.. I still need to see more of the QBs before I make up my mind.

Micjones
01-20-2008, 03:24 AM
no, No, NO!!!

I think I take Sedrick Ellis there or trade down 6-7 spots to take Clady and pick up an extra #2.

Frankie
01-20-2008, 03:26 AM
Agreed. As a rule of thumb I'd like to see the Chiefs draft guys who have put together at the very least 2 good to great years.
Yep.

HolmeZz
01-20-2008, 04:03 AM
I haven't heard the QB gurus pump up Woodson.

Mike Mayock has Woodson rated ahead of Brohm.

I haven't heard any good reviews about him.

You're right, everyone just has him rated as a first round pick because he sucks.

I don't care for how many yards he throws since that can be inflated by system.

He doesn't play in a 'system' and he produced better than Brohm despite having less talent around him AND playing in a much tougher conference.

I don't want a Michael Vick type who has a big arm and rock for brains. Include Ksu Qb Michael Bishop. He put up big yards and nice stats but couldn't play in a sophisticated offense.

Jesus Christ. Woodson has rocks for brains? Why? Because he's half black? Hey, here's him speaking in coherent sentences!

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Woodson stat-wise had a good year but Broehm seems more consistent.

You just said Woodson didn't have a good year. I have no idea what you mean by consistency. Brohm posted a good majority of his stats in cupcake games and he got outproduced the past two years by Woodson.

Arm strength is overrated in my opinion.(dante cullpepper, vick)

That's terrific. Putting aside the fact Woodson is very accurate, name me all the great NFL QBs who have pussy arms.

Henning in lower rounds???? Hmmmm. that would be good.

:LOL:

You just got through saying arm strength is overrated and that accuracy/decision making/ability to read a defense are most important in a quarterback, and then you suggest taking Chad Henne.

HolmeZz
01-20-2008, 04:16 AM
Agreed. As a rule of thumb I'd like to see the Chiefs draft guys who have put together at the very least 2 good to great years.

You can do a little research. All this stuff is on the internets:

Woodson '06: 31 TDs, 7 INTs, 63% completion
Woodson '07: 40 TDs, 11 INTs, 63% completion

Which is why I'm not sure Brohm isn't getting as much love.

Maybe it's just me but it seems like he's been lighting it up for years.

He's been playing for years, but the 'lighting up' is probably a bit hyperbolic. Here are their career numbers:

Brohm: 71 TDs, 24 INTs, 66% completion
Woodson: 79 TDs, 25 INTs, 62% completion

Chris Meck
01-21-2008, 11:34 AM
taking a QB in round 1 this season, with this team, would be dumb. They'd just get ruined ala Carr or Harrington. It would also result in getting the coach and his entire staff fired next January, more than likely. Ain't gonna happen.

You've gotta pick a guy and stick with him for a couple of years. That's what developing a quarterback means. San Diego got impatient with Brees and drafted Rivers. Now, which guy would YOU rather have? NY stayed with Eli, and now it's paying off. That's what you have to do. Put a decent line in front of Brodie and see how he does. Drafting another QB to play behind this awful line is not going to help anything. Fix the line and see what the guy you've got can do.

Frankie
01-21-2008, 11:39 AM
taking a QB in round 1 this season, with this team, would be dumb. They'd just get ruined ala Carr or Harrington.
Exactly.

Chiefnj2
01-21-2008, 11:57 AM
You can do a little research. All this stuff is on the internets:

Woodson '06: 31 TDs, 7 INTs, 63% completion
Woodson '07: 40 TDs, 11 INTs, 63% completion



He's been playing for years, but the 'lighting up' is probably a bit hyperbolic. Here are their career numbers:

Brohm: 71 TDs, 24 INTs, 66% completion
Woodson: 79 TDs, 25 INTs, 62% completion

Woodson probably took about 80%+ of his snaps out of the shotgun.

HemiEd
01-21-2008, 01:02 PM
Does anybody here even watch college football?

I watched Kansas win the BCS Orange Bowl. Does that count?