What Is Your Explanation?

[FAX]

I ran across an interesting article this evening and thought I'd launch it out there in the form of a new, thought-provoking thread entitled, "What Is Your Explanation?".

Basically here's the deal. Scientists have found traces of nicotine and cocaine in Egyptian mummy hair and tissue samples. It was proven not to be residual contaminants transferred after the mummy people were exhumed from their tombs - the traces were actually in the hair, for example and these tests are very reliable as you know.

Anyway, cocaine and nicotine are extracted from plants that are only found in the Americas. These mummy people were buried well before the birth of Jesus. That creates a bit of a problem in terms of figuring out how these mummy people scored cigarettes and crack.

http://www.druglibrary.org/schaffer/Misc/mummies.htm

Any ideas?

FAX

Disclaimers: Sorry if re-post.

[blueballs]

some one switched samples
MLB needs to investigate

[kregger]

More fuel for the fire that drugs can lead to death.

[Hammock Parties]

Alien drug lords.

http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/9205/alienweed2kf6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[Buck]

Pangea

[greg63]

Continental drift.

[greg63]

Alien drug lords.

http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/9205/alienweed2kf6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


More of those pretty little red squares I see.

[BIG K]

[QUOTE=FAX]I ran across an interesting article this evening and thought I'd launch it out there in the form of a new, thought-provoking thread entitled, "What Is Your Explanation?".

Basically here's the deal. Scientists have found traces of nicotine and cocaine in Egyptian mummy hair and tissue samples. It was proven not to be residual contaminants transferred after the mummy people were exhumed from their tombs - the traces were actually in the hair, for example and these tests are very reliable as you know.

Anyway, cocaine and nicotine are extracted from plants that are only found in the Americas. These mummy people were buried well before the birth of Jesus. That creates a bit of a problem in terms of figuring out how these mummy people scored cigarettes and crack.

http://www.druglibrary.org/schaffer/Misc/mummies.htm

Any ideas?

FAX


Hmm..

Egyptians built the pyramids in a way we still don't understand. The two items in question are 'natural'. After their engineering feats, I am less curious about 'how' they aquired as much as I am about if they actually had 'crackhouses' and lit up cigs after their consumption of crack and the whores that go with it.....:)

[acesn8s]

Perhaps there were plants in Africa too but in order to keep the pyramid workers happy they had to harvest it all.

Or the dudes from Easter Island sent a boat full of goodies eastward to celebrate the birth of the 4th wonder of the world.

[Buck]

Maybe Jim Morrison and The Naked Indian brought it to them.

[bowener]

Maybe Jim Morrison and The Naked Indian brought it to them.
Winner!
I would have to guess that there were trade routes then that are unknown to us now. There are very strange similarities between the Mayans and the Egyptians... not necessarily the pyramids, but their gods. Many of them have strikingly similar names and characteristics, which would hint at the notion they came into contact with eachother, or perhaps both came from an even older civilization. Both cultures had mastered astronomy and geometry... Mayans did some amazing things that the Egyptians didnt do... though the Great Pyramid is about impossible to top on the list of amazing things... but both civilizations grasped mathematical concepts that 'western' thinkers werent able to do till about 500 years ago...
Some may bring up an Atlantian society that passed on its knowledge as well (Edgar Cayce).
I personally think we are off on the start of advanced civilizations. If the underwater stepped pyramid off the coast of Japan is in fact man made, then we are off by about 2500-2000 years, that is a huge chunk of time.
http://www.cyberspaceorbit.com/phikent/japan/japan.html

[Fishpicker]

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free your mind, your ass will follow

[ClevelandBronco]

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[plbrdude]

http://misdirection.oops.jp/pic/070801-1.jpg

i was waiting for that one.

[Stewie]

though the Great Pyramid is about impossible to top on the list of amazing things... but both civilizations grasped mathematical concepts that 'western' thinkers werent able to do till about 500 years ago...

The razing of the Great Library of Alexandria had alot to do with that. I often wonder where we would be if that didn't happen and all that knowledge didn't go up in smoke.

[Phobia]

Cheech Marin is a whole lot older than previously reported.

[Hog's Gone Fishin]

The mummy was a crack whore ?

[Kerberos]

More of those pretty little red squares I see.

Yea but he doesn't CARE either way if you ask him about it.

:spock:

[Frazod]

Just think, those poor Egyptians would still be alive today if they hadn't smoked tobacco.

[Rausch]

I think there's a good chance that civilizations were more advanced than we think thousands of years ago. A super eruption or comet/meteor hit might send us now back to the stone age. I wouldn't be at all shocked to find humanity had once reached 18th/19th century levels tens of thousands of years ago...

[ClevelandBronco]

Just think, those poor Egyptians would still be alive today if they hadn't smoked tobacco.

Don't forget the transfats.

[Frazod]

I think there's a good chance that civilizations were more advanced than we think thousands of years ago. A super eruption or comet/meteor hit might send us now back to the stone age. I wouldn't be at all shocked to find humanity had once reached 18th/19th century levels tens of thousands of years ago...

I watched a show on the History Channel a couple of weeks ago that talked about what would happen if mankind suddenly died off. After several thousand years, there would be little evidence that we existed at all - even our tallest buildings would collapse or be overtaken by nature to the point that they would be unrecognizable. The media we have stored our collective knowledge on would not survive. IIRC, 50,000 years from now, about the only evidence of our civilization that would survive would be the carvings on Mount Rushmore and Hoover Dam.

That kind of got me wondering about this very idea - who knows if advanced human civilizations have come before us? If they didn't build massive stone structures, who would ever know?

Interesting idea.

[ZepSinger]

Very interesting article in this same vein...

Link (http://www.world-mysteries.com/sar_11.htm)

The Baghdad Battery

http://www.world-mysteries.com/bat1a.jpg

In 1936, while excavating ruins of a 2000-year-old village near Baghdad, workers discovered mysterious small vase. A 6-inch-high pot of bright yellow clay dating back two millennia contained a cylinder of sheet-copper 5 inches by 1.5 inches. The edge of the copper cylinder was soldered with a 60-40 lead-tin alloy comparable to today's solder. The bottom of the cylinder was capped with a crimped-in copper disk and sealed with bitumen or asphalt. Another insulating layer of asphalt sealed the top and also held in place an iron rod suspended into the center of the copper cylinder. The rod showed evidence of having been corroded with an acidic agent.

German archaeologist , Wilhelm Konig, examined the object and came to a surprising conclusion that the clay pot was nothing less than an ancient electric battery.

[Frazod]

There was a Roman inventor who created a type of steam engine, but he died before ever coming up with a practical application for it.

Just think, 2,000 years ago, the building blocks for the industrial revolution were there.

[bringbackmarty]

Very interesting article in this same vein...

Link (http://www.world-mysteries.com/sar_11.htm)

The Baghdad Battery

http://www.world-mysteries.com/bat1a.jpg

In 1936, while excavating ruins of a 2000-year-old village near Baghdad, workers discovered mysterious small vase. A 6-inch-high pot of bright yellow clay dating back two millennia contained a cylinder of sheet-copper 5 inches by 1.5 inches. The edge of the copper cylinder was soldered with a 60-40 lead-tin alloy comparable to today's solder. The bottom of the cylinder was capped with a crimped-in copper disk and sealed with bitumen or asphalt. Another insulating layer of asphalt sealed the top and also held in place an iron rod suspended into the center of the copper cylinder. The rod showed evidence of having been corroded with an acidic agent.

German archaeologist , Wilhelm Konig, examined the object and came to a surprising conclusion that the clay pot was nothing less than an ancient electric battery.
I figured it was going to be a bong.

[Simply Red]

Though I'm not certain; I'd guess that, midgets and cockrings played a part somewhere along-the-lines.

[banyon]

Desertification expanded the Sahara quite a bit.
My guess is the stuff was there, but got wiped out by the process.

[eazyb81]

I watched a show on the History Channel a couple of weeks ago that talked about what would happen if mankind suddenly died off. After several thousand years, there would be little evidence that we existed at all - even our tallest buildings would collapse or be overtaken by nature to the point that they would be unrecognizable. The media we have stored our collective knowledge on would not survive. IIRC, 50,000 years from now, about the only evidence of our civilization that would survive would be the carvings on Mount Rushmore and Hoover Dam.

That kind of got me wondering about this very idea - who knows if advanced human civilizations have come before us? If they didn't build massive stone structures, who would ever know?

Interesting idea.

That is nuts. Definitely makes you wonder how advanced we really are....

FYI, I love these types of topics on here. Much better than endlessly bitching about politics or talking about poop.

[Stewie]

The Antikythera Mechanism is also an interesting piece of history. It was made 1,000 years before anything else could do the same calculations.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antikythera_mechanism

[Dartgod]

IIRC, 50,000 years from now, about the only evidence of our civilization that would survive would be the carvings on Mount Rushmore and Hoover Dam.
And the Statue of Liberty...

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1405/1291306909_13bfa5e12e.jpg

[Stewie]

There was a Roman inventor who created a type of steam engine, but he died before ever coming up with a practical application for it.

Just think, 2,000 years ago, the building blocks for the industrial revolution were there.

History Channel or Discovery have a show with that as part. I think it also showed complex clocks from back then and the physician Galen who was doing brain and eye surgeries. He successfully removed cataracts, I remember that for sure.

[patteeu]

Desertification expanded the Sahara quite a bit.
My guess is the stuff was there, but got wiped out by the process.

What kind of uninteresting explanation is that? What a buzzkill. :)