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BigVE
04-07-2008, 10:55 PM
Who knows? It could happen. IF so, look out for the RE-PEAT!!!!!
007
04-07-2008, 10:56 PM
Don't tease!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
ArrowheadHawk
04-07-2008, 10:56 PM
Pipe dream.
Chiefmanwillcatch
04-07-2008, 10:59 PM
RR is senior. No repeat. Sorry. Chalmers will prob go pro.



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align="center">3V</td><td align="center">6-1/200</td><td>New York, NY (Rice)</td></tr><tr bgcolor="#ffffff"><td align="right">4</td><td>Sherron Collins (http://kansas.rivals.com/bviewplayer.asp?Team=KANSAS&Player=63435)</td><td align="center">G</td><td align="center">So.</td><td align="center">1V</td><td align="center">5-11/200</td><td>Chicago, IL (Crane)</td></tr><tr bgcolor="#dddddd"><td align="right">5</td><td>Rodrick Stewart (http://kansas.rivals.com/bviewplayer.asp?Team=KANSAS&Player=61828)</td><td align="center">G</td><td align="center">Sr.</td><td align="center">3V</td><td align="center">6-4/205</td><td>Seattle, WA (Rainier Beach)</td></tr><tr bgcolor="#ffffff"><td align="right">10</td><td>Jeremy Case (http://kansas.rivals.com/bviewplayer.asp?Team=KANSAS&Player=29808)</td><td align="center">G</td><td align="center">Sr.</td><td align="center">3V</td><td align="center">6-1/182</td><td>McAlester, OK (McAlester)</td></tr><tr bgcolor="#dddddd"><td align="right">11</td><td>Brennan Bechard (http://kansas.rivals.com/bviewplayer.asp?Team=KANSAS&Player=63737)</td><td align="center">G</td><td align="center">Jr.</td><td align="center">2V</td><td align="center">6-0/183</td><td>Lawrence, KS (Lawrence HS)</td></tr><tr bgcolor="#ffffff"><td align="right">12</td><td>Brady Morningstar (http://kansas.rivals.com/bviewplayer.asp?Team=KANSAS&Player=63436)</td><td align="center">G</td><td align="center">So.</td><td align="center">1V</td><td align="center">6-3/185</td><td>Lawrence, KS (Lawrence Free State)</td></tr><tr bgcolor="#dddddd"><td align="right">14</td><td>Tyrel Reed (http://kansas.rivals.com/bviewplayer.asp?Team=KANSAS&Player=83737)</td><td align="center">G</td><td align="center">Fr.</td><td align="center">HS</td><td align="center">6-3/185</td><td>Burlington, KS (Burlington)</td></tr><tr bgcolor="#ffffff"><td align="right">15</td><td>Mario Chalmers (http://kansas.rivals.com/bviewplayer.asp?Team=KANSAS&Player=61829)</td><td align="center">G</td><td align="center">Jr.</td><td align="center">2V</td><td align="center">6-1/195</td><td>Anchorage, AK (Bartlett)</td></tr><tr bgcolor="#dddddd"><td align="right">22</td><td>Chase Buford (http://kansas.rivals.com/bviewplayer.asp?Team=KANSAS&Player=385744)</td><td align="center">G</td><td align="center">Fr.</td><td align="center">HS</td><td align="center">6-3/200</td><td>San Antonio, TX (Alamo Heights HS)</td></tr><tr bgcolor="#ffffff"><td align="right">24</td><td>Sasha Kaun (http://kansas.rivals.com/bviewplayer.asp?Team=KANSAS&Player=47262)</td><td align="center">C</td><td align="center">Sr.</td><td align="center">3V</td><td align="center">6-11/245</td><td>Melbourne, FL (Florida Air Academy)</td></tr><tr bgcolor="#dddddd"><td align="right">25</td><td>Brandon Rush (http://kansas.rivals.com/bviewplayer.asp?Team=KANSAS&Player=61831)</td><td align="center">G</td><td align="center">Jr.</td><td align="center">2V</td><td align="center">6-6/210</td><td>Kansas City, MO (Mount Zion )</td></tr><tr bgcolor="#ffffff"><td align="right">32</td><td>Darnell Jackson (http://kansas.rivals.com/bviewplayer.asp?Team=KANSAS&Player=47261)</td><td align="center">F</td><td align="center">Sr.</td><td align="center">3V</td><td align="center">6-8/250</td><td>Oklahoma City, OK (Midwest City)</td></tr><tr bgcolor="#dddddd"><td align="right">40</td><td>Brad Witherspoon (http://kansas.rivals.com/bviewplayer.asp?Team=KANSAS&Player=76419)</td><td align="center">G</td><td align="center">Sr.</td><td align="center">3V</td><td align="center">6-1/180</td><td>Humboldt, KS (Humboldt)</td></tr><tr bgcolor="#ffffff"><td align="right">45</td><td>Cole Aldrich (http://kansas.rivals.com/bviewplayer.asp?Team=KANSAS&Player=83736)</td><td align="center">C</td><td align="center">Fr.</td><td align="center">HS</td><td align="center">6-11/245</td><td>Bloomington, MN (Bloomington Jefferson)</td></tr><tr bgcolor="#dddddd"><td align="right">54</td><td>Matt Kleinmann (http://kansas.rivals.com/bviewplayer.asp?Team=KANSAS&Player=47263)</td><td align="center">C</td><td align="center">Sr.</td><td align="center">2V</td><td align="center">6-10/247</td><td>Overland Park, KS (Blue Valley West)</td></tr></tbody></table>
Reerun_KC
04-07-2008, 11:00 PM
LOL no WAY, you probably can kiss Chalmers good bye as well...
ArrowheadHawk
04-07-2008, 11:02 PM
Maybe we can snatch up some Indiana recruits or some gems that come available through coaching changes.
Coach
04-07-2008, 11:02 PM
Arthur needs to stay for one more year. His game still needs improvement.
BigVE
04-07-2008, 11:02 PM
RR is senior. No repeat. Sorry.



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Bechard (http://kansas.rivals.com/bviewplayer.asp?Team=KANSAS&Player=63737)</td><td align="center">G</td><td align="center">Jr.</td><td align="center">2V</td><td align="center">6-0/183</td><td>Lawrence, KS (Lawrence HS)</td></tr><tr bgcolor="#ffffff"><td align="right">12</td><td>Brady Morningstar (http://kansas.rivals.com/bviewplayer.asp?Team=KANSAS&Player=63436)</td><td align="center">G</td><td align="center">So.</td><td align="center">1V</td><td align="center">6-3/185</td><td>Lawrence, KS (Lawrence Free State)</td></tr><tr bgcolor="#dddddd"><td align="right">14</td><td>Tyrel Reed (http://kansas.rivals.com/bviewplayer.asp?Team=KANSAS&Player=83737)</td><td align="center">G</td><td align="center">Fr.</td><td align="center">HS</td><td align="center">6-3/185</td><td>Burlington, KS (Burlington)</td></tr><tr bgcolor="#ffffff"><td align="right">15</td><td>Mario Chalmers (http://kansas.rivals.com/bviewplayer.asp?Team=KANSAS&Player=61829)</td><td align="center">G</td><td align="center">Jr.</td><td align="center">2V</td><td align="center">6-1/195</td><td>Anchorage, AK (Bartlett)</td></tr><tr bgcolor="#dddddd"><td align="right">22</td><td>Chase Buford (http://kansas.rivals.com/bviewplayer.asp?Team=KANSAS&Player=385744)</td><td align="center">G</td><td align="center">Fr.</td><td align="center">HS</td><td align="center">6-3/200</td><td>San Antonio, TX (Alamo Heights HS)</td></tr><tr bgcolor="#ffffff"><td align="right">24</td><td>Sasha Kaun (http://kansas.rivals.com/bviewplayer.asp?Team=KANSAS&Player=47262)</td><td align="center">C</td><td align="center">Sr.</td><td align="center">3V</td><td align="center">6-11/245</td><td>Melbourne, FL (Florida Air Academy)</td></tr><tr bgcolor="#dddddd"><td align="right">25</td><td>Brandon Rush (http://kansas.rivals.com/bviewplayer.asp?Team=KANSAS&Player=61831)</td><td align="center">G</td><td align="center">Jr.</td><td align="center">2V</td><td align="center">6-6/210</td><td>Kansas City, MO (Mount Zion )</td></tr><tr 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(http://kansas.rivals.com/bviewplayer.asp?Team=KANSAS&Player=47263)</td><td align="center">C</td><td align="center">Sr.</td><td align="center">2V</td><td align="center">6-10/247</td><td>Overland Park, KS (Blue Valley West)</td></tr></tbody></table>

I didn't mention RR. I know he is a senior. Move on now. IF, IF D.A. and B. Rush happened to come back and we somehow keep Mario (I think he will be back) the incoming class will be very good...good enough to be top 5 all year long.
Reerun_KC
04-07-2008, 11:03 PM
Arthur needs to stay for one more year. His game still needs improvement.
True, but never pass up the millions to stay in college...
KCChiefsMan
04-07-2008, 11:04 PM
I would be extremely happy if 1 of the 2 stays. It looks to be a pretty deep NBA draft year with a lot of talent coming out, the chances of them being lottery picks may not be that great. Maybe with that in mind, they'll stay??? We lose 3 very important players this year because they are seniors. But, the future still looks pretty good with Cole Aldrich, Chalmers and Collins. If this Tyrell Reed kid can be a good player and if the big twins and the juco star we get this year turn out to be good...we should still be ok. Not nearly as good because we lose that great and experienced big man rotation.

But we just won the championship! It's been 20 years, I will still be happy if we suck next year!
BigVE
04-07-2008, 11:06 PM
I would be extremely happy if 1 of the 2 stays. It looks to be a pretty deep NBA draft year with a lot of talent coming out, the chances of them being lottery picks may not be that great. Maybe with that in mind, they'll stay??? We lose 3 very important players this year because they are seniors. But, the future still looks pretty good with Cole Aldrich, Chalmers and Collins. If this Tyrell Reed kid can be a good player and if the big twins and the juco star we get this year turn out to be good...we should still be ok. Not nearly as good because we lose that great and experienced big man rotation.

But we just won the championship! It's been 20 years, I will still be happy if we suck next year!


Just today I bet a guy from work that KU would win at least 20 games next year...he said there is no way, I disagree.
Basileus777
04-07-2008, 11:08 PM
Arthur is going to be a first round pick, it doesn't make any sense for him to come back.
BWillie
04-07-2008, 11:09 PM
I think Chalmers, Rush and Arthur are all long gone. With the exception of Arthur, their draft stock will never be higher. Next year will look something like this if SELF stays....

PG - Sherron Collins
SG - Tyrel Reed
SF - Travis Releford
PF - Marcus Morris
C - Cole Aldrich
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PF - Markieff Morris
SG - Brady Morningstar
SF - Mario Little
SF - Conner Teahen

It might get ugly. It will be fun to see all the new faces though. Probably looking at about a 7 seed though. And if Self leaves, I think Collins may transfer. I would be optimistic but after reading and watching some video about our JUCO guys I'm convinced they aren't very good. I mean they are good JUCO players, just appear they will be role player type players. I really think alot of our progress will depend on how good Tyrel Reed is honestly. I really think this kid can play.
banyon
04-07-2008, 11:09 PM
Arthur is going to be a first round pick, it doesn't make any sense for him to come back.

Arthur has dropped out of the lottery. Financially he should come back.

http://nbadraft.net/
Reerun_KC
04-07-2008, 11:11 PM
I think Chalmers, Rush and Arthur are all long gone. With the exception of Arthur, their draft stock will never be higher. Next year will look something like this if SELF stays....

PG - Sherron Collins
SG - Tyrel Reed
SF - Travis Releford
PF - Marcus Morris
C - Cole Aldrich
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PF - Markieff Morris
SG - Brady Morningstar
SF - Mario Little
SF - Conner Teahen

It might get ugly. It will be fun to see all the new faces though. Probably looking at about a 7 seed though. And if Self leaves, I think Collins may transfer.
Yep it will be like Bills second year... Just a blast to watch the team develop and gel!
BWillie
04-07-2008, 11:13 PM
Yep it will be like Bills second year... Just a blast to watch the team develop and gel!

Exactly. I don't really have a problem with it. I think it will be a fun year despite some early losses. Aldrich and Reed could really develop into big time players..
doomy3
04-07-2008, 11:26 PM
No way it happens, BUT if it did, with Chalmers and Collins, we could make another run. What a ****ing night!!!
stlchiefs
04-07-2008, 11:59 PM
Rush is gone. The only reason he was here this year is because he tore his ACL. After winning a Championship he has no reason to stay again unless he gets hurt again before the draft.
KCChiefsMan
04-08-2008, 12:11 AM
Just today I bet a guy from work that KU would win at least 20 games next year...he said there is no way, I disagree.

that should be an easy 20 bones! We won't be as good, that's for sure. But I think we can win 20 games next year. But, even if we have 2 years of total suckage, I wouldn't trade it in for the championship!!!
DaWolf
04-08-2008, 02:08 AM
Jason King on Yahoo sports just reported Rush is going league. DA and Chalmers leaning league, DA strongly. Collins considered going but has elected to come back...
Mecca
04-08-2008, 02:10 AM
Arthur is the highest pick of them.......I think Chalmers is a fringe guy and Collins would struggle to be drafted at all...
ClevelandBronco
04-08-2008, 02:13 AM
This will be a great draft. Underclassmen will come out in droves.
Bump
04-08-2008, 02:18 AM
Jason King on Yahoo sports just reported Rush is going league. DA and Chalmers leaning league, DA strongly. Collins considered going but has elected to come back...

at this point Collins wouldn't get drafted. Man I hope DA and Chalmers comes back.
DaWolf
04-08-2008, 02:52 AM
at this point Collins wouldn't get drafted. Man I hope DA and Chalmers comes back.

Hell, I hope Self comes back. With all these articles I've been reading tonight, it's looking shaky...
CrazyPhuD
04-08-2008, 02:57 AM
The odds of them staying are the same as the odds of the chiefs winning the super bowl. It is mathematically possible, but not even the most ardent fan would give in to that delusion.
Mecca
04-08-2008, 03:00 AM
I think Arthur should go and the rest should come back if you're talking in purely NBA standards...
DaKCMan AP
04-08-2008, 05:45 AM
Doubt it. Enjoy this year, don't worry about next.

Jackson, Kaun, Arthur (likely), Russ Rob, and BRush (almost lock) is a LOT to lose in experience and leadership.
Buehler445
04-08-2008, 07:30 AM
Yep. There is no way we make a run at it again next year. Just as well see what the young guys got. If Self leaves, it could get ugly. But if he stays I'm optomistic for the future. He hasn't been able to recruit much the last 2 years because his starting lineup was set in stone already.

Let the man recruit.

That being said, I hope Mario stays.
BigChiefFan
04-08-2008, 07:44 AM
Rush is gone. The only reason he was here this year is because he tore his ACL. After winning a Championship he has no reason to stay again unless he gets hurt again before the draft.
Exactly. They even discussed in length on CBS about his mom saying it was a blessing in disguise/ No way these guys come back, why would they? They won it all and now some can go on to be PROFESSIONALS and earn a PAYCHECK...
BigChiefFan
04-08-2008, 07:45 AM
I think Arthur should go and the rest should come back if you're talking in purely NBA standards...
Brandon Rush will be drafted in the NBA, this YEAR.
Reerun_KC
04-08-2008, 07:47 AM
Well time to reload at KU...

Ah so nice!
ArrowheadHawk
04-08-2008, 07:48 AM
Well time to reload at KU...

Ah so nice!Hopefully this win will bring in Xavier Henry.
Reerun_KC
04-08-2008, 07:49 AM
Hopefully this win will bring in Xavier Henry.
We will find out...

But first celebrate. Second, the Godfather needs to pay up, then we get to reload.