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DaFace
04-23-2008, 11:03 AM
OK, so here's the deal. I keep trying to find ways to keep the Casino fun, but keep people from abusing one system or another in order to gain more cash. Unfortunately, every time I think I've got a system that works, people find another way around it.
The current issue, just to lay it out there, is that people are using the reset cash button to get money, then transfer it to another user, then reset, then transfer, etc... That's how some users are magically getting richer and richer without really winning anything.
So what would you all prefer I do about it?
QuikSsurfer
04-23-2008, 11:07 AM
Remove the Casino and focus all attention on adding GENSIS/SNES/NES roms to the arcade.
RedandGold
04-23-2008, 11:25 AM
Honestly, I don't care if people feel the need to cheat the system to get "rich" with play money. The reset button was a great addition, which ensures that everyone has the ability to keep playing even if they hit a stretch of bad luck.
In the end, what does $1,000,000 in casino cash really buy you? The Hold 'Em game is limit poker, so it doesn't allow someone to continuously buy the pot off of players that aren't cheating the system. The other games are just the individual vs. the software, so other members wouldn't be affected.
If enough people are bothered by it, go ahead and disable the transfer function, but I don't see this as a legitimate concern.
DaFace
04-23-2008, 11:30 AM
Honestly, I don't care if people feel the need to cheat the system to get "rich" with play money. The reset button was a great addition, which ensures that everyone has the ability to keep playing even if they hit a stretch of bad luck.
In the end, what does $1,000,000 in casino cash really buy you? The Hold 'Em game is limit poker, so it doesn't allow someone to continuously buy the pot off of players that aren't cheating the system. The other games are just the individual vs. the software, so other members wouldn't be affected.
If enough people are bothered by it, go ahead and disable the transfer function, but I don't see this as a legitimate concern.
That's kind of where I'm at. Cheating gives people an advantage at Hold Em or at Sports Betting, but other than that, it's just you and the computer. Even so, I'm not sure what real purpose money transfers serve at this point now that there's a reset button. So whatever people want to do is fine with me.
Screw the money transfers. Keep the reset. That seems like the easiest resolution while keeping everything functional and allowing everyone to play no matter if they run out of $ or not.
patteeu
04-23-2008, 11:33 AM
Get rid of the reset button and have people earn casino cash by:
donating money
clicking on advertising (if we have any)
posting in or creating threads/polls
earning reputation
DaFace
04-23-2008, 11:36 AM
Get rid of the reset button and have people earn casino cash by:
donating money
clicking on advertising (if we have any)
posting in or creating threads/polls
earning reputation
I'd be all for the first two if there was a system set up for it. The last two just result in people posting all over the place and "rep whoring," so I'd rather avoid those.
JBucc
04-23-2008, 11:36 AM
I didn't even know there was a reset button. I say get rid of it. Or only let them use it once a month or so.
DaFace
04-23-2008, 11:39 AM
I didn't even know there was a reset button. I say get rid of it. Or only let them use it once a month or so.
It'd be nice to be able to put a time period on it, but I'm not sure how that could be coded. The issue is just allowing people to keep playing for fun, while keeping everything fair at the same time.
patteeu
04-23-2008, 12:10 PM
I'd be all for the first two if there was a system set up for it. The last two just result in people posting all over the place and "rep whoring," so I'd rather avoid those.
I hear you. It would be too much trouble to get the incentives right. In a perfect world, someone who posts a really well received post/thread (like cdcox's draft position calculations in the final week of last season) could be rewarded with casino cash for the service he provided to the community.
You could set things up to just give every member an income of $1000 per week and get rid of the reset button. If payday is Friday and you shoot your wad by Saturday night, you have to wait until the following Friday to get back in the game.
xbarretx
04-23-2008, 12:54 PM
any of those work Face
Get rid of the transfer then. We don't need it.
Hootie
04-23-2008, 02:08 PM
yeah, get rid of the transfer...I thought it was funny and am pleased with my 15.5K for abusing the system! The plan was to get to six figures but it is really much tougher than you think...hitting refresh, transfer, refresh, transfer hundreds of times gets old...
StcChief
04-23-2008, 02:09 PM
It'd be nice to be able to put a time period on it, but I'm not sure how that could be coded. The issue is just allowing people to keep playing for fun, while keeping everything fair at the same time.
as a database programmer, not sure if a table column available to "track" when reset was used last. Just see if it's been a month from the current date when "reset" is pressed again.
may need a table or new column on user account to track this. Seems simple in principle.
Dartgod
04-23-2008, 02:24 PM
Where do I find the reset button? I don't see it anywhere?
DaFace
04-23-2008, 02:26 PM
Where do I find the reset button? I don't see it anywhere?
It only shows up when you are below $250 in cash. The idea is that you can use it to give you at least something to play with, but not to get rich with.
'Hamas' Jenkins
04-23-2008, 02:29 PM
Stalinesque purges of those who have transfered money.
Frazod
04-23-2008, 02:32 PM
Stalinesque purges of those who have transfered money.
How about Stalinesque purges of those who WHINE ABOUT FAKE MONEY?
:shake:
kstater
04-23-2008, 02:35 PM
Limit the number of resets per day.
I'd also like to point out that I earned all my money the hard way. Hitting 4 of a kind on Let it ride.
BigVE
04-23-2008, 03:19 PM
I'm a regular casino user (not abuser). I can see how abuse of the system is wrong but why don't you just DEAL WITH THOSE WHO ABUSED IT. Daface already has a way of telling who has multiple accounts, deal with them directly and decisively. Still, it's just play money so I don't think there should be any harsh punishment but perhaps banning them from Hold'em and sports betting where the large fake cash amounts would be useful...who cares how much money a guy builds or accumulates if he is just playing/cheating the computer? All in all I don't really care that much....however I did think it was cool that someone found an easy way to cheat the system already. LOL
BigVE
04-23-2008, 03:22 PM
I also liked the idea someone had of 1000 bucks a week "allowance" and after that your done 'til next week. Effectively thats the same as one reset every other day which for some of us would not be enough. lol All that being said if it was left just like it is I wouldn't care.
DenverChief
04-23-2008, 03:30 PM
I like the transfer cash feature as it allows people to make individual bets ...I have a $200 bet win another poster that the Nuggets will win the series against the lakers...and will make such bets again in the future
BigVE
04-23-2008, 03:38 PM
I like the transfer cash feature as it allows people to make individual bets ...I have a $200 bet win another poster that the Nuggets will win the series against the lakers...and will make such bets again in the future
I didn't think about that, I have done the same thing and it was fun. Taking that away would suck.
Phobia
04-23-2008, 03:40 PM
FWIW, I don't care what you do but I didn't have anything do with the appearance of cheating the system in my case.
I donated a lot of money over the course of weeks to a user who was always broke and then when this system came along he used it to pay me back. So if you plan to zero people out, leave me out it please.
DaFace
04-23-2008, 03:46 PM
FWIW, I don't care what you do but I didn't have anything do with the appearance of cheating the system in my case.
I donated a lot of money over the course of weeks to a user who was always broke and then when this system came along he used it to pay me back. So if you plan to zero people out, leave me out it please.
Doesn't look like that's a popular option anyway, so I probably won't be zeroing anyone out. Unless the results shift quite a bit, I'll probably just disable the transfer system for now. If people have a desperate need to transfer money to someone, they could always just PM me or something.
teedubya
04-23-2008, 03:48 PM
Yeah, Phil... but you lost all the money that I sent you... err... I mean...
What are you talking about?!
xbarretx
04-23-2008, 03:49 PM
Doesn't look like that's a popular option anyway, so I probably won't be zeroing anyone out. Unless the results shift quite a bit, I'll probably just disable the transfer system for now. If people have a desperate need to transfer money to someone, they could always just PM me or something.
why not impose a limit on it like REP? (you have given out too much rep in the past 24 hours... etc) i mean if its that big of a deal "someone" will complain and then Face can go in and say oh look they went from 0 to 800000 in 5 minutes....
DaFace
04-23-2008, 03:52 PM
why not impose a limit on it like REP? (you have given out too much rep in the past 24 hours... etc) i mean if its that big of a deal "someone" will complain and then Face can go in and say oh look they went from 0 to 800000 in 5 minutes....
Problem is that, frankly, I don't feel like babysitting the system all the time, and the software's pretty limited in that respect. There's a chance it could be modified somehow, but I'm certainly not the one to do it.
xbarretx
04-23-2008, 03:56 PM
Problem is that, frankly, I don't feel like babysitting the system all the time, and the software's pretty limited in that respect. There's a chance it could be modified somehow, but I'm certainly not the one to do it.
check your pm's ;)
ROYC75
04-23-2008, 04:01 PM
Kids ........ leave it kids to ruin things for the old men.
xbarretx
04-23-2008, 04:03 PM
Kids ........ leave it kids to ruin things for the old men.
well theres "no country for old men" so whats it matter? j/k LMAO
Delano
04-23-2008, 04:11 PM
How about Stalinesque purges of those who WHINE ABOUT FAKE MONEY?
:shake:
ROFL
DenverChief
04-23-2008, 04:23 PM
Is there a way to tweak the lotto? I don't think there has been a winner since the beginning....
DaFace
04-23-2008, 04:27 PM
Is there a way to tweak the lotto? I don't think there has been a winner since the beginning....
Settings are:
Range of numbers selected (currently 0-50)
Number of numbers selected (currently at 5)
I don't even know how it works. Do you win if you hit on just one of the five numbers? I guess if you have a preference for tweaking it, just let me know. But be careful - the jackpot's at over a million, so we don't want to make it TOO easy or anything.
Remove the Casino and focus all attention on adding GENSIS/SNES/NES roms to the arcade.
:clap::clap::clap:
Doesn't look like that's a popular option anyway, so I probably won't be zeroing anyone out. Unless the results shift quite a bit, I'll probably just disable the transfer system for now. If people have a desperate need to transfer money to someone, they could always just PM me or something.
That seems to be the only system that is viable anyway.
DenverChief
04-23-2008, 04:44 PM
Settings are:
Range of numbers selected (currently 0-50)
Number of numbers selected (currently at 5)
I don't even know how it works. Do you win if you hit on just one of the five numbers? I guess if you have a preference for tweaking it, just let me know. But be careful - the jackpot's at over a million, so we don't want to make it TOO easy or anything.
I don't think you win unless you hit all five I think I have had 2 numbers...but nada....I'm not sure...
Smed1065
04-23-2008, 05:05 PM
I don't think you win unless you hit all five I think I have had 2 numbers...but nada....I'm not sure...
It must 3 or 4 numbers cause I won like $100 on it somehow.
DaFace
04-23-2008, 05:22 PM
Nevermind. I decided not to change anything.
DenverChief
04-23-2008, 05:26 PM
Okie dokie. Transfers are off. If you'd like to place "off the table" bets and that type of thing, I'll take care of transfers manually with a PM from the sender.
No punishment will be handed out for the offenders, aside from the shame you should all feel for cheating. :p
So you are still going to send me that $2K you promised on that bet we made about that stuff a while ago remember?
BIG_DADDY
04-23-2008, 05:48 PM
So you are still going to send me that $2K you promised on that bet we made about that stuff a while ago remember?
I'll bet your ass the Lakers beat down the butt nuggets again tonight. Great name for you all out there in dog killing country.
BIG_DADDY
04-23-2008, 05:49 PM
for the record I got $500 running ont he Sharks tomorrow night.
teedubya
04-23-2008, 06:19 PM
I feel like Encyclopedia Brown blowing the cover off a big case. Im awesome!
BigVE
04-23-2008, 06:28 PM
I feel like Encyclopedia Brown blowing the cover off a big case. Im awesome!
Nark.
;)
DaFace
04-23-2008, 06:59 PM
I feel like Encyclopedia Brown blowing the cover off a big case. Im awesome!
There's still one more loophole out there that I haven't figured out how to close, but you can't get rich off of it - just less poor - so I'm not gonna worry about it too much.
Frazod
04-23-2008, 08:03 PM
There's still one more loophole out there that I haven't figured out how to close, but you can't get rich off of it - just less poor - so I'm not gonna worry about it too much.
I guess if he continues to cry about it we can take up a collection and send him some monopoly money.
:deevee:
Nzoner
04-23-2008, 09:22 PM
Doesn't look like that's a popular option anyway, so I probably won't be zeroing anyone out. Unless the results shift quite a bit, I'll probably just disable the transfer system for now. If people have a desperate need to transfer money to someone, they could always just PM me or something.
For the record I have only had 1 account here and am an avid casino user and still say,WHO THE FOCK CARES!!!IT'S PLAY MONEY!!!
Damn,give some people mod powers and all of a sudden they're God Almighty.
Nzoner
04-23-2008, 09:24 PM
Oh and I voted other solution as in Let it the fock go.
DaFace
04-23-2008, 09:26 PM
For the record I have only had 1 account here and am an avid casino user and still say,WHO THE FOCK CARES!!!IT'S PLAY MONEY!!!
Damn,give some people mod powers and all of a sudden they're God Almighty.
Just trying to make things better for people. If you all really want, I can just put everything back to the way it was and you can rep each other $10 at a time to try and get to play more.
It's not like I care personally. I don't even play the damn thing.
Oh and I voted other solution as in Let it the fock go.
Is that different than "nothing?"
DaFace
04-23-2008, 09:27 PM
I guess if he continues to cry about it we can take up a collection and send him some monopoly money.
:deevee:
Who is this "he" that's crying about it?
Frazod
04-23-2008, 09:33 PM
Who is this "he" that's crying about it?
Encyclopedia Brown.
:whackit:
DaFace
04-23-2008, 09:35 PM
Encyclopedia Brown.
:whackit:
Eh, all he did was start a thread asking how it happened. I was the one who chose to look into it. :shrug:
Nzoner
04-23-2008, 09:44 PM
Just trying to make things better for people. If you all really want, I can just put everything back to the way it was and you can rep each other $10 at a time to try and get to play more.
It's not like I care personally. I don't even play the damn thing.
I think the $250 reset thing you did was good and I think people should be able to transfer cash without bothering a mod and I think it's pretty focking petty that someone is bitchin' about people cheating with FAKE CASH.
DaFace
04-23-2008, 10:23 PM
Eh, whatever. Transfers are back on. Cheat away.
If anyone has any suggestions to improve the Casino in the future, feel free to suggest them in a poll and I'll see what I can do to get them up and running. Till then, I'm tired of messing with it.
I think the $250 reset thing you did was good and I think people should be able to transfer cash without bothering a mod and I think it's pretty focking petty that someone is bitchin' about people cheating with FAKE CASH.
Might seem petty but I applaud the effort.:clap:
Nzoner
04-23-2008, 11:05 PM
Might seem petty but I applaud the effort.:clap:
The effort at both ends is what blows me away,so you have multiple accounts to transfer fake money to yourself and/or you spend your time tracking down those that are cheating with "fake cash".
Like I said before all I've ever had is 1 account,I am what I am,what you see is what you get,yadda yadda yadda,it's just mind boggling to me some of the shit people spend their time on but hey it's their time.
The effort at both ends is what blows me away,so you have multiple accounts to transfer fake money to yourself and/or you spend your time tracking down those that are cheating with "fake cash".
Like I said before all I've ever had is 1 account,I am what I am,what you see is what you get,yadda yadda yadda,it's just mind boggling to me some of the shit people spend their time on but hey it's their time.
Yeah, we know you like your margarita. :D
Mr. Flopnuts
04-24-2008, 01:33 AM
I voted to do nothing. It's not real, and it's really not a competition so who gives a shit? That said, with unlimited resets there really is NO point to transferring money between players. Whatever's clever.
patteeu
04-24-2008, 08:03 AM
I think the $250 reset thing you did was good and I think people should be able to transfer cash without bothering a mod and I think it's pretty focking petty that someone is bitchin' about people cheating with FAKE CASH.
Fake cash has no intrinsic value of course, but to the extent that people are getting into fantasy gambling, rampant cheating ruins the game.
It's not much fun to play Monopoly if everyone can grab a fistful of fake cash from the bank whenever they want to.
Nzoner
04-24-2008, 05:00 PM
Fake cash has no intrinsic value of course, but to the extent that people are getting into fantasy gambling, rampant cheating ruins the game.
It's not much fun to play Monopoly if everyone can grab a fistful of fake cash from the bank whenever they want to.
I fully agree with you had the casino been set up as a contest amongst all of us,if that was the case I'd be pissed with the cheating as well.
I fully agree with you had the casino been set up as a contest amongst all of us,if that was the case I'd be pissed with the cheating as well.
Hey, Face, I think you just found your solution.
Nzoner
04-24-2008, 05:09 PM
Hey, Face, I think you just found your solution.
Hmmm,can he wipe all the slates clean?If so that would be a hella fun time.
Hmmm,can he wipe all the slates clean?If so that would be a hella fun time.
Don't see any reason why not.
kstater
04-24-2008, 05:18 PM
Hmmm,can he wipe all the slates clean?If so that would be a hella fun time.
Don't see any reason why not.
Heck no, what about the few that earned it the hard way?
Nzoner
04-24-2008, 05:19 PM
Heck no, what about the few that earned it the hard way?
We'll send you an autographed Okoye pic
Heck no, what about the few that earned it the hard way?
I knew somebody would say this.
Just looking for solutions on how to make the fake cash mean a little more and give Face a reason to eliminate the cheating while making it mean something.
Wonder if there is a way for everyone to keep the "for fun" money they have earned and then enter the competition requiring an entry fee. No loans and no cheating allowed.
DaFace
04-24-2008, 06:45 PM
Wonder if there is a way for everyone to keep the "for fun" money they have earned and then enter the competition requiring an entry fee. No loans and no cheating allowed.
Not easily. It's easy to "reset" everyone, but you'll have to get a ton of people on board for something like that. And I'm certainly not going to be the one to propose it!
Nzoner
04-24-2008, 07:11 PM
Not easily. It's easy to "reset" everyone, but you'll have to get a ton of people on board for something like that. And I'm certainly not going to be the one to propose it!
I started a poll on the main page.
VonneMarie
04-24-2008, 07:19 PM
Some of you guys really need to get out your feelings. I cheated a couple of times because I was such a maniac I easily went through my cash like wet tissue paper. Back then those little $10 per rep and poll voting were nothing. I needed the cash and I needed it fast... and Daface I don't know who died and made you casino king any way.
Do whatever you guys want, it's fake who gives a crap.
DaFace
04-24-2008, 07:21 PM
Some of you guys really need to get out your feelings. I cheated a couple of times because I was such a maniac I easily went through my cash like wet tissue paper. Back then those little $10 per rep and poll voting were nothing. I needed the cash and I needed it fast... and Daface I don't know who died and made you casino king any way.
Do whatever you guys want, it's fake who gives a crap.
Sheesh...all I did was ask what you guys wanted. Sorry for giving a damn. :shake:
VonneMarie
04-24-2008, 07:22 PM
For the record Xbarratex gave me 6k and and the other 97% came from rep.
xbarretx
04-24-2008, 07:37 PM
For the record Xbarratex gave me 6k and and the other 97% came from rep.
xbarretx ;)
dont worry Vonne, Face knows i sent out all my cash
ROFL
confession cleanses the soul.
ROFL
Nzoner
04-24-2008, 07:56 PM
I needed the cash and I needed it fast.
Classic :)
VonneMarie
04-24-2008, 08:05 PM
ROFL
confession cleanses the soul.
ROFL
Some of these people act like we beat them up and stole their lunch money. It's ridiculous... OMG, they're cheaters. :rolleyes:
DenverChief
04-24-2008, 09:06 PM
Heck no, what about the few that earned it the hard way?
yeah I just got to $1800 ...highest I have had yet
DenverChief
04-24-2008, 09:07 PM
Classic :)
somebody call the cops! wait...
KCFalcon59
07-30-2008, 12:55 PM
Can the reset cash be more than 300? Make it an even 1000. I don't know how many times i lose a max bet because one of the games hangs. At 300 it makes it hard to build up without having to hit the reset every 2 to 3 bets. Just a suggestion.
Oh and I hit a straight flush on video poker. Yeah baby. Wish it would have been worth more though.
Crashride
07-30-2008, 03:20 PM
I think the texas hold em' should be no limit, and this is how it should work. When you first enter the game you have $1000 and have to work your way up. If you end the game over $1000, say $1500, that additional $500 should be added to your casino cash. If you finish under, whatever you lost should be taken away from your casino cash. It would make the games more like actual poker instead of a raise fest even with the worst hands. The key is to always start the game at $1000 so people with more money cant bully the people with less, it should be earned.
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