Jack Harry saying Chiefs not done....

[tomahawk kid]

He was one 810 after the Carl / Herm presser.

He mentioned that the Chiefs are looking to move at least one other veteran who is unhappy and that it WASN'T Tony G.

Not sure if he's getting this from Athan or what, but I thought it was at least worth posting.

[Delano]

Wesley?

[Micjones]

Greg Wesley?

[kstater]

Wesley?

So we'll pick up an extra 5th or 6th?

[eazyb81]

So we'll pick up an extra 5th or 6th?

No, we'll actually give up a 5th or 6th to entice someone to take him.

[Micjones]

Who might be in the market for Wesley?

[C-Mac]

Sledgehammer?

[Hammock Parties]

Yeah, Nick has been talking about this recently. Likely Wesley.

[Delano]

Yeah, Nick has been talking about this recently. Likely Wesley.

I hesitate to ask, but which teams are interested?

[MTG#10]

Wesley should be worth at least a 5th, maybe even a low 4th.

[CupidStunt]

Good. Chiefs have no need for a "solid" backup safety (whether or not your bias allows you to see that or not, he's at least a solid backup when you take a look around the league). I'd rather have a sixth-rounder and draft a player by throwing a dart at 30 available player's names.

[noa]

Sounds good to me.

[Hammock Parties]

I hesitate to ask, but which teams are interested?

Nothing on that front yet.

[Micjones]

Could it be someone else?
Waters? Surtain?

[C-Mac]

Good. Chiefs have no need for a "solid" backup safety (whether or not your bias allows you to see that or not, he's at least a solid backup when you take a look around the league). I'd rather have a sixth-rounder and draft a player by throwing a dart at 30 available player's names.

Bingo!
He must be de cancerous.

[C-Mac]

Could it be someone else?
Waters? Surtain?
Doubt it...Westley has let it be known since last year.

[Micjones]

Doubt it...Westley has let it be known since last year.

That's old news though.
That was reported as recently as March of this year.

[Tribal Warfare]

Okay I'll just put it out their McIntosh could be a darkhorse possibility

[Micjones]

Okay I'll just put it out their McIntosh could be a darkhorse possibility

Can't see that one.

[Tribal Warfare]

Can't see that one.


their are very few if any players on KCs roster that have trade value so it's either him or Wesley

[DaneMcCloud]

It's got to be Wesley.

He was upset that after he signed for starter's money, the Chiefs drafted Pollard & Page, then put him on the bench.

Quite frankly, the way the guy whiffs on tackles and gets burned deep (not to mention his bad attitude) if it's NOT him Harry is talking about, I'd be surprised.

Wesley needs to go.

ANYONE with a bad attitude needs to go, especially with at least 13 new draft picks coming (and probably just as many street free-agents).

It's time to change the culture around Arrowhead.

[the Talking Can]

we could have had a 4th for him already....we'll probably get a 5th

[Hoover]

My sources tell me it is Jean Philippe Darche. Its been reported that Miami is offering the first pick of the non-drafted free agents.

[QuikSsurfer]

It's got to be Wesley.

He was upset that after he signed for starter's money, the Chiefs drafted Pollard & Page, then put him on the bench.

Quite frankly, the way the guy whiffs on tackles and gets burned deep (not to mention his bad attitude) if it's NOT him Harry is talking about, I'd be surprised.

Wesley needs to go.

ANYONE with a bad attitude needs to go, especially with at least 13 new draft picks coming (and probably just as many street free-agents).

It's time to change the culture around Arrowhead.

It probably is Wesley. We've been through this a number of times...
His bad attitude is because of how the Chiefs have kept him around to sit on the bench, while other teams have shown interest in giving him the opportunity to play. It's bullshit.
Name one other Chiefs player that has had more TD-saving-tackles (during Wesley's tenure) or that hits harder than Wesley.

With all that said, I'm still bitter about the Denver deal.

[BigRedChief]

their are very few if any players on KCs roster that have trade value so it's either him or Wesley
I heard that Waters is unhappy with the direction of the team and wants out. Just a rumor so don't apply this to me as fact. Just passing it along.

[Tribal Warfare]

I heard that Waters is unhappy with the direction of the team and wants out. Just a rumor so don't apply this to me as fact. Just passing it along.


Now if it's Waters, I'd be pissed

[Hammock Parties]

Now if it's Waters, I'd be pissed

Why? He's 31, 32 as well. Might as well replace him sooner than later.

[Anyong Bluth]

I heard that Waters is unhappy with the direction of the team and wants out. Just a rumor so don't apply this to me as fact. Just passing it along.

Depending on what the compensation is...

Doubt I'd do it for anything less than a high 3rd round pick.

It's pretty clear we're not doing anything for a few years, and if you're gonna firesale it, he'd be more value to us picking up young guys than 3 years down the road when he's past his prime after sticking around to help us reach 4-12

[DaneMcCloud]

Now if it's Waters, I'd be pissed

Waters' play dropped off considerably this year without Will Shields or Weigman playing at a high level next to him. Due to his age and the enormous amount of depth of offensive lineman the 2008 draft has to offer, ship him out for a 3rd round pick and replace him.

It's going to happen soon, whether he likes it or not anyway, so if the Chiefs have the opportunity now, take it.

[BigRedChief]

Now if it's Waters, I'd be pissed
This was not from my source that has always been right so I didn't post anything. But supposely he called King Carl and asked to be quietly shopped around because he didn't want to wait 2-3 years to be good again. The Chiefs said they would make inquiries but no promises. Again this person has never told me anything private but I've known him for 6 years. Maybe just a BS rumor he heard? Who knows?

[Deberg_1990]

My gut feeling tells me its Bobby Sippio.

[MTG#10]

Why? He's 31, 32 as well. Might as well replace him sooner than later.
Exactly. Like it or not, we are not going to be contenders anytime soon so we might as well get something out of him while we can. I wouldn't take anything less than a 3rd rounder for him though. Hell, at this point I would give up Gonzo for a high 2nd rounder.

[Tribal Warfare]

Why? He's 31, 32 as well. Might as well replace him sooner than later.

Only stalwart on the line, since KC KC can't replace the whole O-line through this draft also it would be F*CKED.

[The Franchise]

My gut feeling tells me its Bobby Sippio.

WE'RE DOOMED!!!!1!111!11!1

[milkman]

Exactly. Like it or not, we are not going to be contenders anytime soon so we might as well get something out of him while we can. I wouldn't take anything less than a 3rd rounder for him though. Hell, at this point I would give up Gonzo for a high 2nd rounder.

You wouldn't find anyone who'd give you a high 2nd rounder.

You''d be lucky to find someone who'd give you a high 4th rounder.

[Vegas_Dave]

First name that came to mind to me was Waters. We all heard about the OL not wanting to block for LJ last year.

Since the franchise isnt getting rid of LJ, this seems to make sense.

[C-Mac]

Chiefs | Gonzalez on future with team
Wed, 23 Apr 2008 10:01:16 -0700

In an interview on SIRIUS NFL Radio The SIRIUS Blitz, Kansas City Chiefs TE Tony Gonzalez said he does not want to be traded. Gonzalez also said he feels he can still contribute and thinks he has another three or four years left in him.

[Silock]

Well, whatever it is will have to happen very quickly.

[Anyong Bluth]

Chiefs | Gonzalez on future with team
Wed, 23 Apr 2008 10:01:16 -0700

In an interview on SIRIUS NFL Radio The SIRIUS Blitz, Kansas City Chiefs TE Tony Gonzalez said he does not want to be traded. Gonzalez also said he feels he can still contribute and thinks he has another three or four years left in him.


Like Shannon Sharpe, Gonzo looks to be one of those guys that doesn't suffer from a lot of dropoff as he gets older. How is the guy, b/c he could probably play another 8 years..

I feel bad the guy has had no luck in terms of playoff wins or a ring, but I kinda like the fact that he wants to stay for now, and think it'd be kinda cool if he played his entire career with KC.

If he has an option to pick up with a contender and we can move him, I'd even take a bit less value for the guy just as a show of appreciation to him if thats the only way he could get some hardware for his finger.

[Rain Man]

I would suspect that Carl is trading away draft picks for future draft picks, because whoever they get with their current draft picks will be too old by the time they're competitive, and because they won't want to play for Carl anyway.

[eazyb81]

I would suspect that Carl is trading away draft picks for future draft picks, because whoever they get with their current draft picks will be too old by the time they're competitive, and because they won't want to play for Carl anyway.

Are you trying to set a record for the most snarky comments in one day?

[Phobia]

You wouldn't find anyone who'd give you a high 2nd rounder.

You''d be lucky to find someone who'd give you a high 4th rounder.

Man - I gotta disagree with that. If the market for Pat Surtain was a 2nd round pick, the market for Gonzo has to at least start there - maybe even a low 1st rounder. He's nowhere near the end.

[milkman]

Man - I gotta disagree with that. If the market for Pat Surtain was a 2nd round pick, the market for Gonzo has to at least start there - maybe even a low 1st rounder. He's nowhere near the end.

He's a TE.

The position is pretty low in terms of value to a team.

[markk]

i think you would get like a third for him

[Reerun_KC]

Is it that Carl is going to trade himself for the GM of the Pats?

And we will throw in one of our 4ths to sweeten the deal?

[Phobia]

He's a TE.

The position is pretty low in terms of value to a team.

I would argue that the TE position is on the rise while the FB position has been on the decline. Look how many TE studs teams have been drafting in the first round the past 7-8 years. If the position was as low as you claim, Dallas Clark would have never vaulted from a 4th round project to a first round pick for the Colts. I'm guessing there's a lot of teams who would come up to bat with a 2nd rounder in hand if Gonzo came on the market.

[milkman]

I would argue that the TE position is on the rise while the FB position has been on the decline. Look how many TE studs teams have been drafting in the first round the past 7-8 years. If the position was as low as you claim, Dallas Clark would have never vaulted from a 4th round project to a first round pick for the Colts. I'm guessing there's a lot of teams who would come up to bat with a 2nd rounder in hand if Gonzo came on the market.

I would argue that when there is discussion about teams that might be one player away from being a contender, neither TE or FB are at the top of the list as the one player.

[Raiderh8ter77]

brian waters

[Brock]

Chiefs | Gonzalez on future with team
Wed, 23 Apr 2008 10:01:16 -0700

In an interview on SIRIUS NFL Radio The SIRIUS Blitz, Kansas City Chiefs TE Tony Gonzalez said he does not want to be traded. Gonzalez also said he feels he can still contribute and thinks he has another three or four years left in him.

Damn. What a class guy.

[bowener]

Damn. What a class guy.

Yeah, but isnt that what Jared Allen basically said about KC too?

[KcMizzou]

Yeah, but isnt that what Jared Allen basically said about KC too?Uh... I don't think so.

[keg in kc]

We all know how "inside" Jack is with everybody at Arrowhead. Why, he's like a bosom buddy.

[DaneMcCloud]

We all know how "inside" Jack is with everybody at Arrowhead. Why, he's like a bosom buddy.

He's a cross-dresser as well?

[keg in kc]

He's a cross-dresser as well?Nothing would shock me with those "tv types".

[Direckshun]

I'd love to get another late rounder for Wes.

I don't care where it is. I doubt we get a 5th -- the Broncos would have been overpaying if they had offered a 5th. I absolutely cannot believe they offered a 4th and we turned them down.

[Tribal Warfare]

I'd love to get another late rounder for Wes.

I don't care where it is. I doubt we get a 5th -- the Broncos would have been overpaying if they had offered a 5th. I absolutely cannot believe they offered a 4th and we turned them down.




Really if we can get any thing for Wesley it would be gravy.

[Direckshun]

Really if we can get any thing for Wesley it would be gravy.
Absolutely. I just don't think he's worth acquiring. Wes is 29 years old. He's a documented bad-attitude guy. He's inconsistent and gives up big plays.

Nope, we're going to have a really hard time finding any value for him.

We couldn't find value last year for Sammy Knight, who at least has a Pro Bowl to his name. We screwed ourselves out of a 4th last year.

The big thing in Wesley's favor, though, is that this is a very weak safety class in this upcoming Draft, and Wes would yield better returns than any 5th to 7th would give you. Wes can also play FS and SS, both fairly adequately.

[KCwolf]

Yeah, but isnt that what Jared Allen basically said about KC too?


Those words NEVER came out of JA's mouth.....

[Ultra Peanut]

No, we'll actually give up a 5th or 6th to entice someone to take him.Still totally worth it!

[Boon]

Carl is King!
In Carl we trust.

[DTLB58]

He was one 810 after the Carl / Herm presser.

He mentioned that the Chiefs are looking to move at least one other veteran who is unhappy and that it WASN'T Tony G.

Not sure if he's getting this from Athan or what, but I thought it was at least worth posting.

My money is on Wesley there.

[Tribal Warfare]

Carl is King!
In Carl we trust.



:# :cuss:

[beach tribe]

It would be a good idea to just get would we could for waters because he won't help much with our future success, except for the fact that......Someone must PROTECT THE QUARTERBACK if we ever plan to develop one. Whether it be Croyle, or Ryan or who the **** ever. A QB will never mature on his back.

[dtebbe]

If Greg Wesley is still on the roster when the regular season starts.... :cuss:

DT

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Now if it's Waters, I'd be pissed

Why? The guy looked like mule shit without Willie Roaf carrying his ass the last two years.

[Tits McGee]

Would Colquitt be considered a veteran?

[Tribal Warfare]

Why? The guy looked like mule shit without Willie Roaf carrying his ass the last two years.


He isn't a HOFer, but he's probowl caliber player who has no help around him. since eveyone is F*CKING up around him he's trying pick up slack on the left and right

[xbarretx]

Nothing on that front yet.

so you know who the vet is?

[Hammock Parties]

so you know who the vet is?

Sure don't. Probably Wes though.

[BIG K]

Why? The guy looked like mule shit without Willie Roaf carrying his ass the last two years.

Can't say I have given up hope on him with his weak supporting cast. One or two improvements on the line, and he may regain his old form..

[xbarretx]

Sure don't. Probably Wes though.

:hmmm: which beggs the question... who would be interested. i guess if people wanted Simms.....then anythings possible

[banyon]

:hmmm: which beggs the question... who would be interested. i guess if people wanted Simms.....then anythings possible

LOL. Us getting a 4th for Sims was like Jon Gruden walking up to the front door of 1 Arrowhead and saying "KICK ME IN the JIMMY" and giving us a draft pick.

[Discuss Thrower]

My first thought is Waters...

[PhillyChiefFan]

Would Colquitt be considered a veteran?

We would be SO very screwed.

[PhillyChiefFan]

When I first read this thread, I went through and tried to find out who the asshole would be that says:
" I'll bet it's Larry Johnson"

and just watch the mayheim unfold. I almost did it for sh*ts and grins.